Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Two confused questions - QoS bw CME/Gatekeeper

2009-02-02 Thread Jiahong - tobeccie Fang

Much appreciated!

For different sources, all refer to use 'after-compressed' to caculate cRTP.  
For CME, I will use dedicate dial-peer for incoming.

James

 From: abay...@secura.com.tr
 To: mo...@hotmail.com
 CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:32:52 +0200
 Subject: Two confused questions - QoS bw  CME/Gatekeeper
 
 Hi James,
 
 Here are my comments:
 
 
 Q1: when assign priority bw to voice traffic, should caculate based on 
 before-compressed or after-comressed?
 
 
 Following,  important sentences from Cisco Unified Communicaton SRND based on 
 7.X about this question
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/7x/netstruc.html#wp1044222
 
 Note that cRTP compression occurs as the final step before a packet leaves 
 the egress interface; that is, after LLQ class-based queueing has occurred. 
 Beginning in Cisco IOS Release 12.(2)2T and later, cRTP provides a feedback 
 mechanism to the LLQ class-based queueing mechanism that allows the bandwidth 
 in the voice class to be configured based on the compressed packet value. 
 With Cisco IOS releases prior to 12.(2)2T, this mechanism is not in place, so 
 the LLQ is unaware of the compressed bandwidth and, therefore, the voice 
 class bandwidth has to be provisioned as if no compression is taking place.
 
 
 
 Q2: In CME, when received call from gatekeeper, I need incoming translation 
 to strip 'tech-prefix'. Do I need dedicate incoming-called dial-peer for this 
 translation, or I can reuse CME outgoing ras dial-peer?
 
 
 In fact, I think that is all about your choice whether to use a dedicated 
 dial-peer or reuse another one. But I  always prefer to create new dial-peers 
 for both each incoming and outgoing call legs on every voice gateway/CME/etc. 
 configuration. So, by this way the configuration becomes easily readable and 
 more modular.
 
 
 Best Regards

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] VM-integration required??

2009-02-02 Thread Jiahong - tobeccie Fang

During SRST mode, do I really need 'vm-integration' to support 
vm for srst phones???

I think under ccm-manager-fallback already have 'voicemail ' and related 
dial-peer
should be sufficient. And I think 'vm-integration' is additional feature for 
SRST to support
other analog vm system which cannot take dtmf digits properly.

Can any one clarify when/why need 'vm-integration'? 

James

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] vtgo lite

2009-02-02 Thread omar itani

hi guys ,can any 1 tell me how to use 2 instances of vtgo lite in the same time 
,what is the procedure need before run on the machine 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be acceptable?

2009-02-02 Thread Kapil Atrish

Hi Kamal,
 
I created additional AC Pilot with queuing disabled and pointed first one to 
the new AC as Alwasy Route Member. I keep on getting the MOH from first AC 
even though queuing timer is over. Can you pl comment if you achieved it 
differently?
 
I am able to route the call to a CTI_RP as Alwasy Route Member and point this 
RP to a route-pattern which further points it to the Gateway. The RP string is 
invalid and non-routable by the GW. Using this method, the caller simply gets 
dropped after queuing timer is over. No Fast-busy to caller but MOH gets 
played. 
 
When I try pointing AC Always Route Member filed to any Route-pattern 
directly, I get the following message:
The Directory Number you entered in the selected Partition is associated with a 
device that can not be a member of a Hunt Group.
 
Pl let me know how you achieved Anthony's method?
 



Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:05:31 +1100Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 
Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be acceptable?From: lovingprin...@gmail.comto: 
anthony.ye...@gmail.comcc: kapilatr...@hotmail.com; 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; gree...@googlemail.com; 
christian.hennr...@intact-is.com; anil...@yahoo.comi tested it and it works 
great.Thanks Anthony for kind help.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Anthony Yeung anthony.ye...@gmail.com wrote:
What you can try is assign a dummy AC pilot point to the original ACPilot Point 
as the 'Always Route Member' creating a linked hunt group.Then for this second 
dummy AC pilot point assign a dummy AC user likeyou did w/ the first. But 
instead, disable queuing for this seconddummy Pilot Point. After the hold time 
expires for the first AC pilot,the call will be forwarded to the second AC 
pilot. Since queuing isdisabled, the call should drop BUT w/ a disconnect cause 
of 'userbusy'.


On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.com 
wrote: I did not put the TP directly inside the Hunt-Group. I put a CTIRP as 
Always Route Member and on CTIRP I did a forward all to the TP. I am yet to 
try the solution given by Christian. I'll put the call to a gateway via RP and 
see if I can get fast-busy to the caller after initial queuing prompt. 
 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:30:58 +1100 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be acceptable? 
From: lovingprin...@gmail.com To: kapilatr...@hotmail.com CC: 
christian.hennr...@intact-is.com; gree...@googlemail.com; 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; anil...@yahoo.com I tried same way.It plays 
greeting only once.I also changed service parameter for Cisco TCD Allow 
Routing with Unknown Line State to True ,and retried.Call still doesn't 
end. Kapil,  how did you add TP as member in HuntGroup.In my case, it gives 
error saying that member should be a valid DN on system.I was able to add 
phone/CTIRP DNs though. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Kapil Atrish 
kapilatr...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried with RP/TP  Block this pattern 
and in that case call stays in queue. AC takes the call out of the queue only 
when it is routed to a registered end-point that's what I've observed. I'll 
try to route it to some unallocated number pointing it to the GW and see if it 
works. Thanks for the input. Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:39:31 +0100 
From: christian.hennr...@intact-is.com To: kapilatr...@hotmail.com CC: 
gree...@googlemail.com; anil...@yahoo.com; cpar...@cparker.us; 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to 
PSTN - Will it be acceptable? what about routing to a number CUCM, which 
does not exist, or even to a PSTN number, which is unallocated? 
Christian Kapil Atrish schrieb:  The requirement is to drop the call 
within CCM itself. I don't want to  use Unity/IPCCX/TCL for this purpose. 
  
  
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:16:49 +  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 
Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be  acceptable?  From: 
gree...@googlemail.com  To: anil...@yahoo.com  CC: 
christian.hennr...@intact-is.com; cpar...@cparker.us;  
kapilatr...@hotmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com   Folks,   
To get the call to disconnect you can use do the following:   Create a 
CTI RP cfwd all to voicemail.   In VM create a CH with the extension 
number of the CTI RP and configure  the greeting to be blank and then after 
greeting send the caller to hang  up.   In the ac hunt group config 
add the CTI RP as the always route member.   In acconfig.bat for the 
annunicator ac pilot set the hold time to be  something other than 0 
seconds   After this time has passed the call will be forwarded to 
unity and  disconnected - you get a little bit of ringing as the call gets 
to unity  which I cant get rid of.   2009/1/27 anil batra 
anil...@yahoo.com   I too tried the way Kapil mentioned and faced same 
issue as he did.  The call from PSTN does it the announcement but the call 
never gets  disonncted, it seems the queue is 

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Two confused questions - QoS bw CME/Gatekeeper

2009-02-02 Thread Danışman, Devoteam Secura
Hi James,

Here are my comments:


Q1: when assign priority bw to voice traffic, should caculate based on 
before-compressed or after-comressed?


Following,  important sentences from Cisco Unified Communicaton SRND based on 
7.X about this question

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/7x/netstruc.html#wp1044222

Note that cRTP compression occurs as the final step before a packet leaves the 
egress interface; that is, after LLQ class-based queueing has occurred. 
Beginning in Cisco IOS Release 12.(2)2T and later, cRTP provides a feedback 
mechanism to the LLQ class-based queueing mechanism that allows the bandwidth 
in the voice class to be configured based on the compressed packet value. With 
Cisco IOS releases prior to 12.(2)2T, this mechanism is not in place, so the 
LLQ is unaware of the compressed bandwidth and, therefore, the voice class 
bandwidth has to be provisioned as if no compression is taking place.



Q2: In CME, when received call from gatekeeper, I need incoming translation to 
strip 'tech-prefix'. Do I need dedicate incoming-called dial-peer for this 
translation, or I can reuse CME outgoing ras dial-peer?


In fact, I think that is all about your choice whether to use a dedicated 
dial-peer or reuse another one. But I  always prefer to create new dial-peers 
for both each incoming and outgoing call legs on every voice gateway/CME/etc. 
configuration. So, by this way the configuration becomes easily readable and 
more modular.


Best Regards


[OSL | CCIE_Voice] CME DSP error

2009-02-02 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
I am using PVDM2's, though I know they are PVDM1's on the lab.  I create my
PRI and bring up 4 channels.  Configure CME completely with CUE and then add
in a transcoder.  When I hit the max sessions ? I have an option to do up
to 6.  So I want to max out my router and set it to 6.  When I make an
inbound call I get fast busy and outbound I get 1/2 ring and then busy.  The
router throws the following error:
*Feb  3 02:35:42.419: %FLEXDSPRM-5-OUT_OF_RESOURCES: No dsps found either
locally or globally.

I am just wondering if what you can do to get around with.  If I drop my max
sessions down to 4 I am all set, but I want to max out my router.

Thanks,
Ryan Trauernicht


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Alias Static command

2009-02-02 Thread Kumar, Narinder
All,
If I am using alias static command in the GK, can I use 2 alias static command 
one for PUB and one for SUB and how can I force the call to go to the SUB first 
and than via PUB.

alias static 10.10.10.10 1720 gkid CCM gateway voip ras 10.10.10.10  1719 e164 
2001 e164 2002

Regards
Narinder


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] vtgo lite

2009-02-02 Thread kamal yousaf
Its very easy. Go here:

http://corner-il.blogspot.com/2007/07/using-multiple-ipblue-phones-on-one-pc.html

Cheerz

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  hi guys ,can any 1 tell me how to use 2 instances of vtgo lite in the same
 time ,what is the procedure need before run on the machine
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be acceptable?

2009-02-02 Thread kamal yousaf
Kapil,

 If you dial your first AC pilot # , you should hear greeting .If you dial
second(dummy) AC pilot # , you should hear user busy.Now, When you link 2nd
to first,i.e add 2nd AC pilot # as Always Route Member , after hold time
expires, call will be routed to dummy pilot point and you will get 'user
busy'.I did also change Service Parameter for TCD so that AC can route calls
to directory numbers with unknown state.

Regds
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Hi Kamal,

 I created additional AC Pilot with queuing disabled and pointed first one
 to the new AC as Alwasy Route Member. I keep on getting the MOH from first
 AC even though queuing timer is over. Can you pl comment if you achieved it
 differently?

 I am able to route the call to a CTI_RP as Alwasy Route Member and point
 this RP to a route-pattern which further points it to the Gateway. The RP
 string is invalid and non-routable by the GW. Using this method, the caller
 simply gets dropped after queuing timer is over. No Fast-busy to caller but
 MOH gets played.

 When I try pointing AC Always Route Member filed to any Route-pattern
 directly, I get the following message:

 The Directory Number you entered in the selected Partition is associated
 with a device that can not be a member of a Hunt Group.


 Pl let me know how you achieved Anthony's method?


 --

 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:05:31 +1100
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be
 acceptable?
 From: lovingprin...@gmail.com
 To: anthony.ye...@gmail.com
 CC: kapilatr...@hotmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com;
 gree...@googlemail.com; christian.hennr...@intact-is.com;
 anil...@yahoo.com


 I tested it and it works great.Thanks Anthony for kind help.


 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Anthony Yeung anthony.ye...@gmail.comwrote:

 What you can try is assign a dummy AC pilot point to the original AC
 Pilot Point as the 'Always Route Member' creating a linked hunt group.
 Then for this second dummy AC pilot point assign a dummy AC user like
 you did w/ the first. But instead, disable queuing for this second
 dummy Pilot Point. After the hold time expires for the first AC pilot,
 the call will be forwarded to the second AC pilot. Since queuing is
 disabled, the call should drop BUT w/ a disconnect cause of 'user
 busy'.

 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  I did not put the TP directly inside the Hunt-Group. I put a CTIRP as
  Always Route Member and on CTIRP I did a forward all to the TP.
 
  I am yet to try the solution given by Christian. I'll put the call to a
  gateway via RP and see if I can get fast-busy to the caller after initial
  queuing prompt.
 
  
  Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:30:58 +1100
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be
 acceptable?
  From: lovingprin...@gmail.com
  To: kapilatr...@hotmail.com
  CC: christian.hennr...@intact-is.com; gree...@googlemail.com;
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; anil...@yahoo.com
 
  I tried same way.It plays greeting only once.I also changed service
  parameter for Cisco TCD Allow Routing with Unknown Line State to True
 ,and
  retried.Call still doesn't end.
 
  Kapil,
   how did you add TP as member in HuntGroup.In my case, it gives error
 saying
  that member should be a valid DN on system.I was able to add phone/CTIRP
 DNs
  though.
 
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I tried with RP/TP  Block this pattern and in that case call stays in
  queue. AC takes the call out of the queue only when it is routed to a
  registered end-point that's what I've observed.
 
  I'll try to route it to some unallocated number pointing it to the GW and
  see if it works.
 
  Thanks for the input.
 
 
  Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:39:31 +0100
  From: christian.hennr...@intact-is.com
  To: kapilatr...@hotmail.com
  CC: gree...@googlemail.com; anil...@yahoo.com; cpar...@cparker.us;
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be
  acceptable?
 
  what about routing to a number CUCM, which does not exist, or even to a
  PSTN number, which is unallocated?
 
  Christian
 
  Kapil Atrish schrieb:
   The requirement is to drop the call within CCM itself. I don't want to
   use Unity/IPCCX/TCL for this purpose.
  
  
 
   Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:16:49 +
   Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be
   acceptable?
   From: gree...@googlemail.com
   To: anil...@yahoo.com
   CC: christian.hennr...@intact-is.com; cpar...@cparker.us;
   kapilatr...@hotmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  
   Folks,
  
   To get the call to disconnect you can use do the following:
  
   Create a CTI RP cfwd all to voicemail.
  
   In VM create a CH with the extension number of the CTI 

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] DTMF digits from PSTN callers are not recognized in the Unity Greeting

2009-02-02 Thread kamal yousaf
Hi,

 When dialing from BR1 into Unity , calls and digit input work .During
AAR/SRST , callers dialing via PSTN are able to leave voice-mail
messages.However, when subscriber dials directly into unity during AAR/SRST,
unity plays subscriber greeting but it doesn't recognize any input dtmf
digit inputs.As per support Wiki, call-handlers are working but Unity
Subscriber Sign-In fails.Any one else had same problem ?

h
ttp://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/DTMF_digits_from_PSTN_callers_are_not_recognized_in_the_greeting,_and_Call_Handler_and_callers_are_not_authenticated_on_Cisco_Unityhttp://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/DTMF_digits_from_PSTN_callers_are_not_recognized_in_the_greeting,_and_Call_Handler_and_callers_are_not_authenticated_on_Cisco_Unity


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be acceptable?

2009-02-02 Thread kamal yousaf
Yeah..I did that but putting DN didn't work.You would need Secondary AC
pilot #. Besides, I prefer to use Unity rather than going through this
method.At least for lab, it won't be advisable unless strictly asked to do
so.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Cool...I did not check for the TCD Service Parameter. I think if I set
 this parameter the second AC would not be required. I may simply put a DN as
 Always route member to extend fast busy to caller after initial MOH.
 Otherwise I'll also follow your solution.

 Vik/Mark: Do you think it is an acceptable solution? Question is to
 customize annunciator and we are using MOH to acheive the results?






 --
 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:39:43 +1100
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be
 acceptable?
 From: lovingprin...@gmail.com
 To: kapilatr...@hotmail.com
 CC: anthony.ye...@gmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com;
 gree...@googlemail.com; christian.hennr...@intact-is.com;
 anil...@yahoo.com


 Kapil,

  If you dial your first AC pilot # , you should hear greeting .If you dial
 second(dummy) AC pilot # , you should hear user busy.Now, When you link 2nd
 to first,i.e add 2nd AC pilot # as Always Route Member , after hold time
 expires, call will be routed to dummy pilot point and you will get 'user
 busy'.I did also change Service Parameter for TCD so that AC can route calls
 to directory numbers with unknown state.

 Regds
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Hi Kamal,

 I created additional AC Pilot with queuing disabled and pointed first one
 to the new AC as Alwasy Route Member. I keep on getting the MOH from first
 AC even though queuing timer is over. Can you pl comment if you achieved it
 differently?

 I am able to route the call to a CTI_RP as Alwasy Route Member and point
 this RP to a route-pattern which further points it to the Gateway. The RP
 string is invalid and non-routable by the GW. Using this method, the caller
 simply gets dropped after queuing timer is over. No Fast-busy to caller but
 MOH gets played.

 When I try pointing AC Always Route Member filed to any Route-pattern
 directly, I get the following message:

 The Directory Number you entered in the selected Partition is associated
 with a device that can not be a member of a Hunt Group.


 Pl let me know how you achieved Anthony's method?


 --

 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:05:31 +1100
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be
 acceptable?
 From: lovingprin...@gmail.com
 To: anthony.ye...@gmail.com
 CC: kapilatr...@hotmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com;
 gree...@googlemail.com; christian.hennr...@intact-is.com;
 anil...@yahoo.com


 I tested it and it works great.Thanks Anthony for kind help.


 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Anthony Yeung anthony.ye...@gmail.comwrote:

 What you can try is assign a dummy AC pilot point to the original AC
 Pilot Point as the 'Always Route Member' creating a linked hunt group.
 Then for this second dummy AC pilot point assign a dummy AC user like
 you did w/ the first. But instead, disable queuing for this second
 dummy Pilot Point. After the hold time expires for the first AC pilot,
 the call will be forwarded to the second AC pilot. Since queuing is
 disabled, the call should drop BUT w/ a disconnect cause of 'user
 busy'.

 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  I did not put the TP directly inside the Hunt-Group. I put a CTIRP as
  Always Route Member and on CTIRP I did a forward all to the TP.
 
  I am yet to try the solution given by Christian. I'll put the call to a
  gateway via RP and see if I can get fast-busy to the caller after initial
  queuing prompt.
 
  
  Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:30:58 +1100
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Annunciator to PSTN - Will it be
 acceptable?
  From: lovingprin...@gmail.com
  To: kapilatr...@hotmail.com
  CC: christian.hennr...@intact-is.com; gree...@googlemail.com;
  ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; anil...@yahoo.com
 
  I tried same way.It plays greeting only once.I also changed service
  parameter for Cisco TCD Allow Routing with Unknown Line State to True
 ,and
  retried.Call still doesn't end.
 
  Kapil,
   how did you add TP as member in HuntGroup.In my case, it gives error
 saying
  that member should be a valid DN on system.I was able to add phone/CTIRP
 DNs
  though.
 
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Kapil Atrish kapilatr...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I tried with RP/TP  Block this pattern and in that case call stays in
  queue. AC takes the call out of the queue only when it is routed to a
  registered end-point that's what I've observed.
 
  I'll try to route it to some unallocated number pointing it to the GW and
  see if it works.
 
  Thanks for the input.
 
 
  Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:39:31 +0100
  From: