[OSL | CCIE_Voice] ATA
ATA MUSET BE IN THE VOICE AND DATA VLAN ? OR JUST VOICE VLAN SET VLAN 140 (X/X) ATA PORT SET PORT AUXILIARY VLAN (X/X) 240 THANK YOU _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ATA
Seems like your ATA is connect on CAT6. If your Voice Vlan is 140 then command on CAT 6 would be set vlan 140 X/X - Basant On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:28 AM, hasan khalife hasan_khal...@hotmail.comwrote: ATA MUSET BE IN THE VOICE AND DATA VLAN ? OR JUST VOICE VLAN SET VLAN 140 (X/X) ATA PORT SET PORT AUXILIARY VLAN (X/X) 240 THANK YOU -- What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find outhttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] call group of DN number to conference at a time
Hi, IF I want to call group of DN number to conference at a time, I can dial one by one and call each one. There is any simple way like hunt group to call all of them at once for conference, please light on this. For ex in a company they have sales team, here manager want to call the whole team just by dialing a single number, any workaround for this ? Thanks, Bala. New Email addresses available on Yahoo! Get the Email name you#39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] call group of DN number to conference at a time
In CME it is called paging but it's one-way communication from the person who initiated the paging to the group of others who are paged. I guess you can join the paging-DN into the conference but I never tried this. I don't know a way to do it on CCM. Rgds Alex - Original Message - From: Balamurugan Singaram To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] call group of DN number to conference at a time Hi, IF I want to call group of DN number to conference at a time, I can dial one by one and call each one. There is any simple way like hunt group to call all of them at once for conference, please light on this. For ex in a company they have sales team, here manager want to call the whole team just by dialing a single number, any workaround for this ? Thanks, Bala. -- New Email addresses available on Yahoo! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does!
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Unity Express
Hi, Integrated CUE with CME. Q : User can press 2 (where = actual DN of IP phone which is registered to local CME) to reach user's voicemail box greeting. This call routing should also apply to PSTN calls. Any idea how to achieve this??? - Tanmay
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Unity Express
ephone-dn 12 number 2 call-forward all voicemail DN ! Additionally, either: 1/ In CUE, add 2 as E.164 number for each mailbox 2/ use translation-profile to translate redirect-number from 2 to on CUE dial-peer. Rgds Alex 2009/3/3 Tanmay Devare tanmaypdev...@gmail.com Hi, Integrated CUE with CME. Q : User can press 2 (where = actual DN of IP phone which is registered to local CME) to reach user's voicemail box greeting. This call routing should also apply to PSTN calls. Any idea how to achieve this??? - Tanmay
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay
frame-relay cir 729600 frame-relay bc 7296 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 729600 where we should get the value 729600 from ? there is a table or rules ? thx _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay
from QoS SRND - Original Message - From: hasan khalife To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay frame-relay cir 729600 frame-relay bc 7296 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 729600 where we should get the value 729600 from ? there is a table or rules ? thx -- Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay
It is 95% of the CIR. James From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of hasan khalife Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:41 AM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay frame-relay cir 729600 frame-relay bc 7296 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 729600 where we should get the value 729600 from ? there is a table or rules ? thx Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies.
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] call group of DN number to conference at a time
On CallManager by itself? No. But you could have a meet me conference number on CCM you could have them call. A better solution is MeetingPlace. - Original Message - From: Balamurugan Singaram To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 AM Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] call group of DN number to conference at a time Hi, IF I want to call group of DN number to conference at a time, I can dial one by one and call each one. There is any simple way like hunt group to call all of them at once for conference, please light on this. For ex in a company they have sales team, here manager want to call the whole team just by dialing a single number, any workaround for this ? Thanks, Bala. -- New Email addresses available on Yahoo! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does!
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] V3 Lab1A?
You know what - I realized the mistake - and now all routers initial configs for Lab1A are loaded into the vRack interface. There is simply no initial config to be loaded for UCM. Thanks! -- Mark Snow CCIE #14073 (Voice, Security) Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax: +1.309.413.4097 Mailto: ms...@ipexpert.com -- Join our free online support and peer group communities: http://www.IPexpert.com/communities -- IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On- Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications. -- On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Bryan Brooks wrote: Hi Mark, Thank you for the response and taking care of the PSTN initial configuration. I may have missed it but is the dlci information in the LAB1A? I only remember seeing the tasks to setup VLAN, DHCP and NTP. Thanks Bryan Brooks On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Mark Snow ms...@ipexpert.com wrote: No, there shouldn't. :) Well - I change that - PSTN should be setup. I will create an Initial for Lab1A that takes care of the PSTN right now. (OK - done.) It is the only lab there isn't any other initial config for other than the PSTN. You see - it is Lab 1A - Infrastructure - there is nothing to be put in for an Initial config (revised to say except for the PSTN :). You are meant to do all of the work :). Have fun! :D (p.s. - it's easy infrastructure stuff ;-)) -- Mark Snow CCIE #14073 (Voice, Security) Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax: +1.309.413.4097 Mailto: ms...@ipexpert.com -- Join our free online support and peer group communities: http://www.IPexpert.com/communities -- IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video- On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE RS Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications. -- On Mar 1, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Bryan Brooks wrote: I have been working on the V3 Labs for a couple of weeks and was just curious. Shouldn't there be an initial configuration that we can load on the devices for Lab1a? The only option for configurations we have to load are the final configs. When first connecting to the rack there is nothing configured such as routing and the PSTN router does not even appear to be up. I find that I have to load the final configs and remove the vlan, dhcp etc. to practice the first lab. Am I missing something? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks Bryan Brooks
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] IP PIM
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ios conference
assuming it isn't registered with SCCP, dspfarm profile 1 conference shut (you'l then have to acknowledge you want to do this) no dspfarm profile 1 conference - Original Message - From: hasan khalife To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:15 PM Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] ios conference Pod14-BR1-RTR(config)#dspfarm profile 1 ? conference Profile type Conference mtp Profile type MTP transcode Profile type Transcoding cr Pod14-BR1-RTR(config)#dspfarm profile 1 conference? conference Pod14-BR1-RTR(config)#dspfarm profile 1 conference Profile id 1 is being used for service MTP please select a different profile id how to disable the profile id for mtp ,i didnt create it ! i want to associate profile 1 register mtp.. -- See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] unity voice mail
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab attack order.
I'm curious how people have approached the order of completing a lab. What order do you use to ensure gathering the most points and build the lab correctly without doubling back to adjust things as you get further into the lab. I know Vik and Mark have their own opinions on this, but I wanted to throw it out to the more general audience for feedback.
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay
There is a formula to calculate this, (BW * 95/100) * 1000 For instance BW=768 (768 * 0.95) * 1000 = 729600 Sheeraz From: hasan khalife hasan_khal...@hotmail.com To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 7:41:14 AM Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay frame-relay cir 729600 frame-relay bc 7296 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 729600 where we should get the value 729600 from ? there is a table or rules ? thx Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay
to add in my last reply, If nothing specified then 5% is the default tolerance as per QoS SRND, but if it's specified in question then you should take that value. Again, formula is (BW * 95/100) * 1000 Sheeraz From: hasan khalife hasan_khal...@hotmail.com To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 7:41:14 AM Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] frame-relay frame-relay cir 729600 frame-relay bc 7296 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 729600 where we should get the value 729600 from ? there is a table or rules ? thx Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab attack order.
I think everyone has their own way of doing it, but here's how I go about it: STEP ZERO - read the whole lab carefully. It's hard to do when you are nervous. Try and pay attention the the details and look for tricks. Then work things out like what partitions and css you'll need, how the gatekeeper will work. Do you need multicast. Try and get you head around the lab as much as possible. 1. Gather info This is where I log into everything and look at CDP to get the MAC addresses of the phones and of the 6608 devices. I put all of this info into notepad for easy cut and paste. I hardly use any paper in the lab everything goes into notepad for easy access and no retyping. 2. 6500 Next I set up the 6500. I do all the vlans, aux vlans, voice ports, muulticast, and any QoS 3. HQ Here I set up interfaces, NTP, timezone, DHCP if need be, multicast if needed, QoS and the basic Gatekeeper config. I like doing all the QoS at the beginning of the lab, and by doing it on HQ first it helps with time because you can just cut and paste what you do on HQ to BR1 and BR2. I set up the GK enough so that I know the CME and UCM will register in the correct zones. Also if I see I need VIA-GK I go ahead and set up IPIPGW, dial peers and transcoder (as needed) on HQ. I go back and tweak the GK config later after I have set up UCM and CME. 4. BR1 I paste in QoS config copied from HQ, create the vlans, create interfaces, set helper address and multicast if needed, set up switch ports, set up dhcp if needed, set up ntp and timezone, set isdn switchtype, configure PRI for MGCP or H323, tweak isdn settings on serial, set up mgcp if needed, set up translation rules, set up CoR if needed, configure dial peers if needed for H323 and/or SRST, config transcoder and conf bridge if needed, set up SRST. 5. BR2 I paste in QoS config copied from HQ, create interfaces, set helper address and multicast if needed, set up dhcp if needed, set up ntp and timezone, set isdn switchtype, configure PRI, tweak isdn settings on serial, set voice service to allow h323 to sip, set up translation rules, set up CoR if needed, configure dial peers (these can often be copied with minor tweaks from BR1), config transcoder and conf bridge if needed (another section copied fro BR1), run telephony service setup, paste mac address from step 1 to appropriate ephone, set up H323 gateway and confirm registered to HQ, set voip dial peers for HQ GK and CUE, add ephone-dns for MWI, set up BACD, add any hunt groups as needed. 6. CUE I normally do this step while doing something else at the same time like setting up the 3550. There's alot of waiting in this step while CUE just does its thing. Once CUE is up and ready to be configured, I normally do the basic setup with the GUI (this will set up mwi, and your sip triggers and applications) and then do user creation from the CUE CLI. 7. 3550 Here I do vlans and set up ports, and do any QoS. 8. CME Testing So at this point 90% of the CLI work is done and all the CME/CUE stuff is complete. So here I do some quick testing on CME dialing in / out to PSTN, CUE MWI, and BACD. 9. Callmanager Basic So here Im doing all the CM stuff I can think of except call routing and phones. I go into serviceability first and turn on whatever services I need. Then I go back to admin. I use the Top Left to Right method. So System menu first and usually touch everything except Device Defaults. Then in Route Plan I do AAR, Partitions, CSS, and I try to do any translation patterns that I think I'll need. Then I jump over to the Device menu. I do any custom soft keys or button templates. I set up EM profiles if I need them. I set up all my gateways and make sure they register, I set up the GK and trunk I set up any CTI route points I need. I DO NOT set up the phones yet however. Then I move to the Feature Menu. I setup my phone services, voice mail, and park or pickup if need be. Then I go to the services menu. I setup all the media resources, lists and groups and make sure everything is registered and in the right device pool. After the media stuff is done I go back to the device pools and assign the MRGL. I always do IPMA or AC later after the phones are set up. 10. Eat Lunch Yep all the stuff listed above needs to be done before lunch. 11. Callmanager routing and Phones So this part is all about the Route Groups, Route Lists, and Route Patterns. I plan most of this out in step zero or at lunch. Once thats all done I start setting up the phones and users. If I did everything right in step 9 and I can do everything I need to on every phones without going back and add partitions or what not. When this is done I do some quick basic testing with the PSTN. 12. Gatekeeper Now that everything is built on CCM and CME and everything is registered to the GK, I finish the GK config. This could mean adding zone prefixes, aliases, bandwidth commands etc. Then I test
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH problem - but I managed to figure it out....but useful info
Running into a strange issue this evening on the rack. Streaming multicast MOH from HQ to BR1. Performace counters show the MOH source active on the server, but PSTN caller into BR1 doesn't get music. I've done the ip pim sparse-dense on the Loopback, Vlan, and on the virtual-template interface (this is MLPoFR) for BR1. On BR1, sh ip mroute returns the info you'd expect: (*, 239.2.1.1), 00:05:37/stopped, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: D Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:05:37/00:00:00 (10.21.201.1, 239.2.1.1), 00:05:36/00:00:24, flags: T Incoming interface: Vlan410, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:02:32/00:00:00 (172.21.101.1, 239.2.1.1), 00:05:37/00:00:32, flags: T Incoming interface: Loopback0, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:02:33/00:00:00 (*, 224.0.1.40), 01:19:01/00:02:24, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: DCL Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access1, Forward/Dense, 01:19:01/00:00:00 Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 01:19:12/00:00:00 So the router KNOWS about it. But when the call goes on hold, the stream isn't coming across. I'm really not seeing any packets across the WAN while the caller is on hold, so I don't think it's actually sending it across. But callers into HQ DO get multicast MOH, but of course, they are on the same VLAN so it's easy. So I start wonderingwhere the heck is it getting stuck? I've got the BR1 router set up with the no mgcp timer receive-rtcp ip pim-dense no ip igmp snooping I'm thinkingthis isn't the problem. So, I back up and start looking at HQ router. It also sees the PIM info...: Pod21-HQ-RTR#sh ip mroute IP Multicast Routing Table Flags: D - Dense, S - Sparse, B - Bidir Group, s - SSM Group, C - Connected, L - Local, P - Pruned, R - RP-bit set, F - Register flag, T - SPT-bit set, J - Join SPT, M - MSDP created entry, X - Proxy Join Timer Running, A - Candidate for MSDP Advertisement, U - URD, I - Received Source Specific Host Report, Z - Multicast Tunnel, z - MDT-data group sender, Y - Joined MDT-data group, y - Sending to MDT-data group Outgoing interface flags: H - Hardware switched, A - Assert winner Timers: Uptime/Expires Interface state: Interface, Next-Hop or VCD, State/Mode (*, 239.2.1.1), 00:04:33/00:01:26, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: D Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:04:33/00:00:00 (*, 239.2.1.3), 00:00:16/stopped, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: D Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:00:16/00:00:00 (162.21.101.2, 239.2.1.3), 00:00:17/00:02:42, flags: PT Incoming interface: Virtual-Access3, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Null (*, 224.0.1.40), 05:50:11/00:02:45, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: DCL Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 So...I wonderit couldn't be that simple I go in and apply the following command onto the fas 0/0.410 interface: ip pim dense Make a test calland we have audio. While this allows it to flow correctly, I'm still not clear on how it could KNOW it was there but not flow...but at least I won't get killed by this situation again. Cliff
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab attack order.
Chris , Great layout and exactly what I was looking for. Thanks On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote: I think everyone has their own way of doing it, but here's how I go about it: STEP ZERO - read the whole lab carefully. It's hard to do when you are nervous. Try and pay attention the the details and look for tricks. Then work things out like what partitions and css you'll need, how the gatekeeper will work. Do you need multicast. Try and get you head around the lab as much as possible. 1. Gather info This is where I log into everything and look at CDP to get the MAC addresses of the phones and of the 6608 devices. I put all of this info into notepad for easy cut and paste. I hardly use any paper in the lab everything goes into notepad for easy access and no retyping. 2. 6500 Next I set up the 6500. I do all the vlans, aux vlans, voice ports, muulticast, and any QoS 3. HQ Here I set up interfaces, NTP, timezone, DHCP if need be, multicast if needed, QoS and the basic Gatekeeper config. I like doing all the QoS at the beginning of the lab, and by doing it on HQ first it helps with time because you can just cut and paste what you do on HQ to BR1 and BR2. I set up the GK enough so that I know the CME and UCM will register in the correct zones. Also if I see I need VIA-GK I go ahead and set up IPIPGW, dial peers and transcoder (as needed) on HQ. I go back and tweak the GK config later after I have set up UCM and CME. 4. BR1 I paste in QoS config copied from HQ, create the vlans, create interfaces, set helper address and multicast if needed, set up switch ports, set up dhcp if needed, set up ntp and timezone, set isdn switchtype, configure PRI for MGCP or H323, tweak isdn settings on serial, set up mgcp if needed, set up translation rules, set up CoR if needed, configure dial peers if needed for H323 and/or SRST, config transcoder and conf bridge if needed, set up SRST. 5. BR2 I paste in QoS config copied from HQ, create interfaces, set helper address and multicast if needed, set up dhcp if needed, set up ntp and timezone, set isdn switchtype, configure PRI, tweak isdn settings on serial, set voice service to allow h323 to sip, set up translation rules, set up CoR if needed, configure dial peers (these can often be copied with minor tweaks from BR1), config transcoder and conf bridge if needed (another section copied fro BR1), run telephony service setup, paste mac address from step 1 to appropriate ephone, set up H323 gateway and confirm registered to HQ, set voip dial peers for HQ GK and CUE, add ephone-dns for MWI, set up BACD, add any hunt groups as needed. 6. CUE I normally do this step while doing something else at the same time like setting up the 3550. There's alot of waiting in this step while CUE just does its thing. Once CUE is up and ready to be configured, I normally do the basic setup with the GUI (this will set up mwi, and your sip triggers and applications) and then do user creation from the CUE CLI. 7. 3550 Here I do vlans and set up ports, and do any QoS. 8. CME Testing So at this point 90% of the CLI work is done and all the CME/CUE stuff is complete. So here I do some quick testing on CME dialing in / out to PSTN, CUE MWI, and BACD. 9. Callmanager Basic So here Im doing all the CM stuff I can think of except call routing and phones. I go into serviceability first and turn on whatever services I need. Then I go back to admin. I use the Top Left to Right method. So System menu first and usually touch everything except Device Defaults. Then in Route Plan I do AAR, Partitions, CSS, and I try to do any translation patterns that I think I'll need. Then I jump over to the Device menu. I do any custom soft keys or button templates. I set up EM profiles if I need them. I set up all my gateways and make sure they register, I set up the GK and trunk I set up any CTI route points I need. I DO NOT set up the phones yet however. Then I move to the Feature Menu. I setup my phone services, voice mail, and park or pickup if need be. Then I go to the services menu. I setup all the media resources, lists and groups and make sure everything is registered and in the right device pool. After the media stuff is done I go back to the device pools and assign the MRGL. I always do IPMA or AC later after the phones are set up. 10. Eat Lunch Yep all the stuff listed above needs to be done before lunch. 11. Callmanager routing and Phones So this part is all about the Route Groups, Route Lists, and Route Patterns. I plan most of this out in step zero or at lunch. Once thats all done I start setting up the phones and users. If I did everything right in step 9 and I can do everything I need to on every phones without going back and add partitions or what not. When this is done I do some quick basic testing with the PSTN. 12. Gatekeeper Now that everything is built on CCM and CME
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH problem - but I managed to figure it out....but useful info
Add - ccm-manager music-on-hold.au --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.net wrote: From: Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.net Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH problem - but I managed to figure it outbut useful info To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 10:36 AM Running into a strange issue this evening on the rack. Streaming multicast MOH from HQ to BR1. Performace counters show the MOH source active on the server, but PSTN caller into BR1 doesn't get music. I've done the ip pim sparse-dense on the Loopback, Vlan, and on the virtual-template interface (this is MLPoFR) for BR1. On BR1, sh ip mroute returns the info you'd expect: (*, 239.2.1.1), 00:05:37/stopped, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: D Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:05:37/00:00:00 (10.21.201.1, 239.2.1.1), 00:05:36/00:00:24, flags: T Incoming interface: Vlan410, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:02:32/00:00:00 (172.21.101.1, 239.2.1.1), 00:05:37/00:00:32, flags: T Incoming interface: Loopback0, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:02:33/00:00:00 (*, 224.0.1.40), 01:19:01/00:02:24, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: DCL Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access1, Forward/Dense, 01:19:01/00:00:00 Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 01:19:12/00:00:00 So the router KNOWS about it. But when the call goes on hold, the stream isn't coming across. I'm really not seeing any packets across the WAN while the caller is on hold, so I don't think it's actually sending it across. But callers into HQ DO get multicast MOH, but of course, they are on the same VLAN so it's easy. So I start wonderingwhere the heck is it getting stuck? I've got the BR1 router set up with the no mgcp timer receive-rtcp ip pim-dense no ip igmp snooping I'm thinkingthis isn't the problem. So, I back up and start looking at HQ router. It also sees the PIM info...: Pod21-HQ-RTR#sh ip mroute IP Multicast Routing Table Flags: D - Dense, S - Sparse, B - Bidir Group, s - SSM Group, C - Connected, L - Local, P - Pruned, R - RP-bit set, F - Register flag, T - SPT-bit set, J - Join SPT, M - MSDP created entry, X - Proxy Join Timer Running, A - Candidate for MSDP Advertisement, U - URD, I - Received Source Specific Host Report, Z - Multicast Tunnel, z - MDT-data group sender, Y - Joined MDT-data group, y - Sending to MDT-data group Outgoing interface flags: H - Hardware switched, A - Assert winner Timers: Uptime/Expires Interface state: Interface, Next-Hop or VCD, State/Mode (*, 239.2.1.1), 00:04:33/00:01:26, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: D Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:04:33/00:00:00 (*, 239.2.1.3), 00:00:16/stopped, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: D Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Virtual-Access3, Forward/Dense, 00:00:16/00:00:00 (162.21.101.2, 239.2.1.3), 00:00:17/00:02:42, flags: PT Incoming interface: Virtual-Access3, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 Outgoing interface list: Null (*, 224.0.1.40), 05:50:11/00:02:45, RP 0.0.0.0, flags: DCL Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0 So...I wonderit couldn't be that simple I go in and apply the following command onto the fas 0/0.410 interface: ip pim dense Make a test calland we have audio. While this allows it to flow correctly, I'm still not clear on how it could KNOW it was there but not flow...but at least I won't get killed by this situation again. Cliff