Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
Even If the number will still be valid, the CCIE will be almost useless. The companies and customers will ask, why you did net get CCIE collaboration? In some Cisco programs, there are special requirements like master UC. One of Cisco employee told me that the partner will be Master UC if the partner has at least one CCIE Voice, later, it could be one CCIE collaboration and so on Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Wayne Lawson waynelawson-...@ipexpert.com wrote: I have confirmed that your CCIE number will still be valid for a partner - through Cisco. Regards, Wayne A. Lawson II Founder CEO - IPexpert, Proctor Labs, Platinum, Inc. Mobile: +1.810.334.1564 eFax: +1.810.454.0130 Email: wlaw...@ipexpert.com Twitter: www.Twitter.com/IPexpert Linkedin: www.WayneLawson.com Skype: WayneLawsonIPexpert Catalog: www.IPexpert.com/Catalog :: Message sent from iPhone On Jun 3, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks Mark, can we get confirmation or someone that work for Cisco can help to confirm ? From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com To: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca Cc: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:44:19 AM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes. On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote: My question is : If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or gold partnership discount? From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number. If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual Voice/Collaboration CCIE. On 2 June 2013 19:00, ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com wrote: Send CCIE_Voice mailing list submissions to ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ccie_voice-ow...@onlinestudylist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CCIE_Voice digest... Today's Topics: 1. IE voice retired (Karen Johnson) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca To: William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com, Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, vma...@ipexpert.com vma...@ipexpert.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired Message-ID: 1370180403.14208.yahoomail...@web163901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 hi all, ? Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number. Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired?? ? Tks K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130602/8aff702f/attachment-0001.html -- ___ CCIE_Voice mailing list CCIE_Voice@onlinestudylist.com http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice End of CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 8 * ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit http://www.ipexpert.com/ Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out http://www.platinumplacement.com/ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit http://www.ipexpert.com/ Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out http://www.platinumplacement.com/ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired
You are absolutely right Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Anas Abu Eideh aabuei...@dcgroup.com wrote: The issue is related to renaming the CCIE voice itself. Your number for sure will be active if you recertify using any one of the written exam. The issue with this rename, by the time CCIE will become the old school and collaboration is the new one. Within one year or two the job vacancies will be collaboration. That means we will lose our investment and reputation. Unfortunately, this change is a marketing not technical. Regards Anas From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Lawson Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 5:51 PM To: Karen Johnson Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Kamran Ahsanullah Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired I have confirmed that your CCIE number will still be valid for a partner - through Cisco. Regards, Wayne A. Lawson II Founder CEO - IPexpert, Proctor Labs, Platinum, Inc. Mobile: +1.810.334.1564 eFax: +1.810.454.0130 Email: wlaw...@ipexpert.com Twitter: www.Twitter.com/IPexpert Linkedin: www.WayneLawson.com Skype: WayneLawsonIPexpert Catalog: www.IPexpert.com/Catalog :: Message sent from iPhone On Jun 3, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote: Thanks Mark, can we get confirmation or someone that work for Cisco can help to confirm ? From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com To: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca Cc: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:44:19 AM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired This is a valid question. I hope the answer is yes. On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca wrote: My question is : If we only pass ccie voice lab then get ccie number and we keep renewing it . When cisco retired it in Feb 2014. Does my ccie number count for silver or gold partnership discount? From: Kamran Ahsanullah kamran.ahsanul...@gmail.com; To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:42:32 PM If you have your voice ccie or pass the exam before the Collaboration CCIE goes live then yes, you get to keep your CCIE number. If you then pass Collaboration CCIE you will become a dual Voice/Collaboration CCIE. On 2 June 2013 19:00, ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com wrote: Send CCIE_Voice mailing list submissions to ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ccie_voice-ow...@onlinestudylist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CCIE_Voice digest... Today's Topics: 1. IE voice retired (Karen Johnson) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Johnson karen.johnson...@yahoo.ca To: William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com, Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, vma...@ipexpert.com vma...@ipexpert.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] IE voice retired Message-ID: 1370180403.14208.yahoomail...@web163901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 hi all, ? Let say we keep re-certify our IE Voice and still hold the number. Would it be still count to Cisco partnership when?IE voice retired?? ? Tks K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130602/8aff702f/attachment-0001.html -- ___ CCIE_Voice mailing list CCIE_Voice@onlinestudylist.com http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice End of CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 8 * ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit http://www.ipexpert.com/ Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out http://www.platinumplacement.com/ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit http://www.ipexpert.com/ Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out http://www.platinumplacement.com/ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
It is not more than CCIE voice v3.5 it is not v.4 even
Sent from my iPhone
On May 31, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Ken Wyan kew...@gmail.com wrote:
There's a serious fault with this new announcement.
We can't say this new blueprint as CCIE Collaboration it should be CCIE
Voice version 4. CCIE Voice track should be allowed to continue with this new
v4 blueprint.
If Cisco want to add another CCIE Collaboration Track they have to add
additional products such as WebEx Server , VCS , Telepresence MSE ,
Telepresence Multipoint Switch , Telepresence Server , Telepresence Manager ,
TMS suitable endpoints.
Then current CCIE Voice guys will be more than happy to complete their
Collaboration certification become dual CCIEs. It will be definitely a
career advancement path for them.
If Cisco can call this new blueprint as CCIE Collaboration ; why can't
they call all current voice CCIE's as Collaboration CCIEs.?
Ken
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Mohammed Al-Assadi m_alass...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Ben e-mail
be...@cisco.com
From: brian.sch...@vitalsite.com
To: rrcr...@yahoo.com; leslie.me...@lvs1.com
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:29:14 +
CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
It is Ben Ng. Found his linked in profile below which describes his
position in Cisco.
www.linkedin.com/pub/ben-ng/3/509/940
Profile on the Cisco site.
https://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le31/communities/netpro/bios/benng.html
Anyone have better contact info to send him respectful and thoughtful
arguments on this?
Brian
-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Rrcrumm
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:11 AM
To: Leslie Meade
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially announced
Ben Ng comes to mind
On May 29, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Leslie Meade leslie.me...@lvs1.com wrote:
The question is... what if anything can we do ?
Where would we start..
Original message
From: Mark Holloway m...@markholloway.com
Date:
To: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
Cc: OSL Group ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com,Vik Malhi
vma...@ipexpert.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaboration officially
announced
Granted we all know that taking any CCIE Written will allow us to remain
CCIE's even if Voice is retired, but I think the frustration is Voice
and Collaboration are not THAT far apart and no matter how you look at
it, it all falls under Cisco Unified Communications, which is what the
name of the new CCIE really should be anyway. The core of the Voice
blueprint is still there. The Collaboration equipment list looks like a
refresh of current products, not a forklift of one technology replacing
another.
In my opinion this was too harsh of a move to retire Voice and start
over again with Collaboration. There are too many similarities between
the two.
On May 29, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Bill Lake
whl...@gmail.commailto:whl...@gmail.com wrote:
Ranting about it won't change anything. I read on line that when they
retire your CCIE, you can still renew by passing a CCIE level written or
lab. If this is true then you do not loose your CCIE just the voice tag.
That seems to be a difficult pill to swallow but it would not be the
first from my reading. Storage had this happen earlier this year as have
several others. See here with the snippet. Now the second is a wiki so
we would want official confirmation.
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-17226
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Career_Certifications#Retired_CCIE_
tracks
Retired CCIE tracks
Some previously awarded CCIE specializations have been retired by Cisco.
These are:
* WAN Switching CCIE (Essentially a specialisation focusing on the
IGX/BPX switch products, which had been acquired as part of the
StrataComhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StrataCom acquisition)
* ISP Dial CCIE
* SNA/IP Integration CCIE (aka CCIE Blue)
* Design CCIE (NOTE: The CCIE Design and CCDE are completely different
design tests in format and subjects examined)
People who hold these now-retired certifications can remain CCIEs,
provided they continue to take recertification exams. They now hold the
title CCIE, rather than CCIE Security, or some other specialization.
So if we can get official confirmation that we won't be stripped of CCIE
if you pass the voice lab, it might be good, for those of us that have
already passed we don't get a chance to change our minds for those that
have yet to pass, this might be incentive to change your goal.
Bill
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Retirement
Great job Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, I'm writing you this morning to express my great disappointment in regard to Cisco's recent announcement to retire the CCIE Voice track with no reasonable upgrade path to the CCIE Collaboration. I know that you're well informed as to all the arguments which are being made against this decision on Facebook, Twitter and other social media outlets, so I won't go into any detail on why I think this is a bad decision. At this point, the facts are well laid out for everyone to see. I'd like to ask you to please reconsider this decision and provide a reasonable upgrade path for the certified CCIE Voice candidates. I, myself, am not yet certified but I will make my first attempt on July 29th of this year. I don't need to tell you how much time, money and effort I've put into preparing for this exam. It's been a goal of mine since I first started on the CCNA. To completely retire a certification track that is still very relevant is incomprehensible. At the very least, I want to request that Cisco provide it's community with an intelligent argument to support it's recent decision to retire the CCIE Voice without a reasonable upgrade path. We've heard very hallow responses citing new exam topics (that are already on v3) or that the description of the certification path wasn't accurate with the technology. These answers are very much an insult to those that have been so loyal and sacrificed so much to achieve CCIE certifications. Please, ask your team to reach out to the community so we can come to an objective decision on this. Best regards, Martin Sloan CCIE Voice Candidate #211151677 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
