Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE
Here is the link http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/other/pop_quote.html On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Smith, Adam wrote: > All, > > I just received confirmation from a friend at Cisco that they have decided > to grandfather in anyone with a CCIE Voice to CCIE Collab if you pass the > CCIE Collab Written Exam. Said this will be posted soon ... > > Thank you to everyone that has not "rolled over" on this! > > I'm very happy, because my next take is next Thursday. > > Good luck, and good work to all! > > Best regards, > Adam > > > > > eLoyalty® a TeleTech Company > Adam Smith | Escalation Engineering Architect | ICS-MS Support > Architecture > 6500 River Place Blvd. | Building 2, Suite 301 | Austin, TX 78730 | > USA > +1.512.391.7729 (direct) | +1.512.391.7701 (fax) | > +1.512.293.5176(mobile) | > www.eloyalty.com > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the > individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and > delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient > you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any > action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly > prohibited. > > > -Original Message- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: > ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of > ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 5:41 PM > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 33 > > Send CCIE_Voice mailing list submissions to > ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ccie_voice-ow...@onlinestudylist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of CCIE_Voice digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (William Bell) >2. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (Michael Miller) >3. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (William Bell) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:40:05 -0400 > From: William Bell > To: Daniel Pagan > Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" , > "michael.se...@compucom.com" > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition > pathfrom CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > Message-ID: <9c80a89e-742b-4484-8052-09696540f...@ucguerrilla.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Daniel, > > First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: > > > Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke > loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the > past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is > to their field and hard-earned certifications. > > Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this > topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! > > Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just > an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The "right thing" > comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may > have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't > bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend > in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. > > So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close > this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be > satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of > support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the > throttle now. K
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE
Does this means Voice IE will be retired & Voice IE's need to sit Collab Written to become Collaboration IE & get ?OR Does that mean Voice IE is being renamed to Collaboration IE ? We are being required to sit the written in any case. right ? On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Anas Abu Eideh wrote: > Good Morning Guys, > > It is a great news. Does anyone have the official announcement? If you can > just share the link > > Regards > > Anas > > -Original Message- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: > ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Smith, Adam > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 2:18 AM > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition > path from CCIE > > All, > > I just received confirmation from a friend at Cisco that they have decided > to grandfather in anyone with a CCIE Voice to CCIE Collab if you pass the > CCIE Collab Written Exam. Said this will be posted soon ... > > Thank you to everyone that has not "rolled over" on this! > > I'm very happy, because my next take is next Thursday. > > Good luck, and good work to all! > > Best regards, > Adam > > > > > eLoyalty® a TeleTech Company > Adam Smith | Escalation Engineering Architect | ICS-MS Support > Architecture > 6500 River Place Blvd. | Building 2, Suite 301 | Austin, TX 78730 | > USA > +1.512.391.7729 (direct) | +1.512.391.7701 (fax) | +1.512.293.5176 > +(mobile) | www.eloyalty.com > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the > individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and > delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient > you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any > action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly > prohibited. > > > -Original Message- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: > ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of > ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 5:41 PM > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 33 > > Send CCIE_Voice mailing list submissions to > ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ccie_voice-ow...@onlinestudylist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of CCIE_Voice digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (William Bell) >2. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (Michael Miller) >3. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (William Bell) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:40:05 -0400 > From: William Bell > To: Daniel Pagan > Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" , > "michael.se...@compucom.com" > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition > pathfrom CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > Message-ID: <9c80a89e-742b-4484-8052-09696540f...@ucguerrilla.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Daniel, > > First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: > > > Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke > loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the > past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is > to their field and hard-earned certifications. > > Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this > topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! > > Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just > an acknowledg
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE
Good Morning Guys,
It is a great news. Does anyone have the official announcement? If you can just
share the link
Regards
Anas
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from CCIE
All,
I just received confirmation from a friend at Cisco that they have decided to
grandfather in anyone with a CCIE Voice to CCIE Collab if you pass the CCIE
Collab Written Exam. Said this will be posted soon ...
Thank you to everyone that has not "rolled over" on this!
I'm very happy, because my next take is next Thursday.
Good luck, and good work to all!
Best regards,
Adam
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:40:05 -0400
From: William Bell
To: Daniel Pagan
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" ,
"michael.se...@compucom.com"
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition
pathfrom CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
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Daniel,
First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up:
> Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly,
> and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days
> really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field
> and hard-earned certifications.
Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on
Cisco's radar. Keep it up!
Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an
acknowledgement that our message has been received. The "right thing" comment
was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed
the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All
feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right
direction. Even if it has been incremental.
So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this
down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that
we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the
community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing,
stay on message, and (as always) be polite.
-Bill
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE
Awesome! Sent from my iPad On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:17 PM, "Smith, Adam" wrote: > All, > > I just received confirmation from a friend at Cisco that they have decided to > grandfather in anyone with a CCIE Voice to CCIE Collab if you pass the CCIE > Collab Written Exam. Said this will be posted soon ... > > Thank you to everyone that has not "rolled over" on this! > > I'm very happy, because my next take is next Thursday. > > Good luck, and good work to all! > > Best regards, > Adam > > > > > eLoyalty® a TeleTech Company > Adam Smith | Escalation Engineering Architect | ICS-MS Support Architecture > 6500 River Place Blvd. | Building 2, Suite 301 | Austin, TX 78730 | USA > +1.512.391.7729 (direct) | +1.512.391.7701 (fax) | +1.512.293.5176 > (mobile) | www.eloyalty.com > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If > you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This > message contains confidential information and is intended only for the > individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are > notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in > reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. > > > -Original Message- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of > ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 5:41 PM > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 33 > > Send CCIE_Voice mailing list submissions to >ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at >ccie_voice-ow...@onlinestudylist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of CCIE_Voice digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition pathfrom CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (William Bell) > 2. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (Michael Miller) > 3. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition pathfrom CCIE > Voice to CCIE Collaboration (William Bell) > > > -------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:40:05 -0400 > From: William Bell > To: Daniel Pagan > Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" , >"michael.se...@compucom.com" > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition >pathfrom CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > Message-ID: <9c80a89e-742b-4484-8052-09696540f...@ucguerrilla.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Daniel, > > First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: > >> Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, >> and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few >> days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their >> field and hard-earned certifications. > > Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic > on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! > > Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an > acknowledgement that our message has been received. The "right thing" comment > was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed > the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All > feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right > direction. Even if it has been incremental. > > So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this > down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied > that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the > community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, > stay on m
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
This is the post on Cisco website. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 I hope my argument helped and I want to thank all those that spent an equal and thoughtful amount of time on this. Success only means we get a reasonable path to migration and I believe this should be considered a WIN/WIN for both Cisco and us. Bill On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM, nielsenj wrote: > Just got this in my email: > > Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: "We are > listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be > adjusting the > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE > Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the > CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voiceCCIE > Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration > credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We > appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we > update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating > further details about this modification as soon as possible." > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco > Learning Network Moderator > > > > Jason Nielsen > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, wrote: > >> If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: >> http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >> >> Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 >> "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified >> Computing Systems" >> >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Just got this in my email: Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: "We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voice CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible." https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco Learning Network Moderator Jason Nielsen On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, wrote: > If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: > http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 > "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified > Computing Systems" > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE
All,
I just received confirmation from a friend at Cisco that they have decided to
grandfather in anyone with a CCIE Voice to CCIE Collab if you pass the CCIE
Collab Written Exam. Said this will be posted soon ...
Thank you to everyone that has not "rolled over" on this!
I'm very happy, because my next take is next Thursday.
Good luck, and good work to all!
Best regards,
Adam
eLoyalty® a TeleTech Company
Adam Smith | Escalation Engineering Architect | ICS-MS Support Architecture
6500 River Place Blvd. | Building 2, Suite 301 | Austin, TX 78730 | USA
+1.512.391.7729 (direct) | +1.512.391.7701 (fax) | +1.512.293.5176 (mobile)
| www.eloyalty.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:40:05 -0400
From: William Bell
To: Daniel Pagan
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" ,
"michael.se...@compucom.com"
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition
pathfrom CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
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Daniel,
First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up:
> Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly,
> and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days
> really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field
> and hard-earned certifications.
Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on
Cisco's radar. Keep it up!
Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an
acknowledgement that our message has been received. The "right thing" comment
was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed
the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All
feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right
direction. Even if it has been incremental.
So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this
down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that
we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the
community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing,
stay on message, and (as always) be polite.
-Bill
--
William Bell, CCIE #38914
blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla
On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan wrote:
> Folks:
>
> I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of
> Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today
> saying, "we will do the right thing for everyone". There's also some rumors
> floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the
> Cisco UC Master pr
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Just released. To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from the Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco: "We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible." Just the messenger, Josh Reola www.ciscosimplified.com Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:40 PM, William Bell wrote: > Daniel, > > First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: > >> Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, >> and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few >> days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their >> field and hard-earned certifications. > > Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic > on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! > > Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an > acknowledgement that our message has been received. The "right thing" comment > was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed > the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All > feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right > direction. Even if it has been incremental. > > So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this > down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied > that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the > community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, > stay on message, and (as always) be polite. > > > -Bill > > -- > William Bell, CCIE #38914 > blog: http://ucguerrilla.com > Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla > > > > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan wrote: > >> Folks: >> >> I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of >> Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today >> saying, "we will do the right thing for everyone". There's also some rumors >> floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the >> Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the >> CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me >> to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. >> >> Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the >> concerns being posted. >> >> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45&tstart=0 >> >> https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 >> >> Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, >> and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few >> days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their >> field and hard-earned certifications. >> >> I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. >> >> Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com >> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of >> michael.se...@compucom.com >> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM >> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from >> CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration >> Importance: High >> >> If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: >> http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >> >> Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 >> "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified >> Computing Systems" >> >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> ___ >> For more informatio
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
FYI. The CCIE WINS its voice back! http://bit.ly/11ise6g Great job to everyone on this list for getting together and pushing for change. Daniel said it best! -Bil -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan wrote: > Folks: > > I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of > Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today > saying, "we will do the right thing for everyone". There's also some rumors > floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the > Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the > CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me > to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. > > Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the > concerns being posted. > > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45&tstart=0 > > https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 > > Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, > and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days > really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field > and hard-earned certifications. > > I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. > > Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 > > -Original Message- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of > michael.se...@compucom.com > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from > CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > Importance: High > > If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: > http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 > "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing > Systems" > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
This post was made on the Learning @ Cisco Facebook page: "To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from Fred Weiller, Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible." It seems the request for a migration path via written exam will be the way forward. Thanks, Mike On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, William Bell wrote: > Daniel, > > First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: > > Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke > loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the > past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is > to their field and hard-earned certifications. > > > Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this > topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! > > Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just > an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The "right thing" > comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may > have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't > bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend > in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. > > So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close > this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be > satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of > support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the > throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. > > > -Bill > > -- > William Bell, CCIE #38914 > blog: http://ucguerrilla.com > Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla > > > > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan wrote: > > Folks: > > I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads > of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today > saying, "we will do the right thing for everyone". There's also some rumors > floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of > the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into > the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't > hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. > > Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the > concerns being posted. > > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45&tstart=0 > > https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 > > Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke > loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the > past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is > to their field and hard-earned certifications. > > I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. > > Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 > > -Original Message----- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: > ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of > michael.se...@compucom.com > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path > from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > Importance: High > > If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: > http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 > "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified > Computing Systems" > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > >
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Daniel, First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: > Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, > and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days > really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field > and hard-earned certifications. Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The "right thing" comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. -Bill -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan wrote: > Folks: > > I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of > Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today > saying, "we will do the right thing for everyone". There's also some rumors > floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the > Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the > CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me > to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. > > Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the > concerns being posted. > > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45&tstart=0 > > https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 > > Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, > and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days > really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field > and hard-earned certifications. > > I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. > > Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 > > -Original Message- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of > michael.se...@compucom.com > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from > CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > Importance: High > > If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: > http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 > "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing > Systems" > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today saying, "we will do the right thing for everyone". There's also some rumors floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45&tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems" ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems" ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
So, once this petition reaches a solid number ( a thousand or more ), will it be forwarded to Cisco team or will it be presented in printed form ? how does this work from here onwards ? Those who are going to Cisco Live this month will get chance to talk in-person with many Cisco engineers/decision makers. Guys, please voice community's concern & this announcement must must must be changed or a easy transition path be provided. On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Brian Valentine wrote: > As have I > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Ramcharan Arya > wrote: > >> I signed as well. >> >> Thanks, >> Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( R&S) >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe < >> ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Done. >>> >>> Ikenna Izugbokwe >>> Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian wrote: >>> >>>> DONE… >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: >>>> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz >>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM >>>> *To:* Suresh Bhandari >>>> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable >>>> transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE >>>> Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! >>>> >>>> For the interested candidates... >>>> >>>> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >>>> >>>> I already did. Now its your turn. >>>> >>>> Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Suresh Bhandari >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>>> >>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>>> >>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I >>> >>> ___ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
As have I On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Ramcharan Arya wrote: > I signed as well. > > Thanks, > Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( R&S) > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe < > ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Done. >> >> Ikenna Izugbokwe >> Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice) >> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian wrote: >> >>> DONE… >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: >>> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz >>> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM >>> *To:* Suresh Bhandari >>> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable >>> transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari >>> wrote: >>> >>> *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE >>> Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! >>> >>> For the interested candidates... >>> >>> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >>> >>> I already did. Now its your turn. >>> >>> Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Suresh Bhandari >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ___ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> I >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
I also signed and passed it along to a few Cisco employees that I have a great relationship with (one is also a low number CCIE Voice). Josh On Jun 1, 2013 12:28 AM, "Ramcharan Arya" wrote: > I signed as well. > > Thanks, > Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( R&S) > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe < > ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Done. >> >> Ikenna Izugbokwe >> Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice) >> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian wrote: >> >>> DONE… >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: >>> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz >>> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM >>> *To:* Suresh Bhandari >>> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable >>> transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari >>> wrote: >>> >>> *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE >>> Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! >>> >>> For the interested candidates... >>> >>> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >>> >>> I already did. Now its your turn. >>> >>> Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Suresh Bhandari >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ___ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >>> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> I >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
I signed as well. Thanks, Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( R&S) On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe < ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Done. > > Ikenna Izugbokwe > Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice) > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian wrote: > >> DONE… >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: >> ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz >> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM >> *To:* Suresh Bhandari >> *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com >> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition >> path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration >> >> ** ** >> >> DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. >> >> ** ** >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari >> wrote: >> >> *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE >> Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! >> >> For the interested candidates... >> >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >> >> I already did. Now its your turn. >> >> Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) >> >> >> >> -- >> Suresh Bhandari >> >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> ** ** >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > > -- > I > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
I signed the petition. On May 31, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Tian wrote: > DONE… > > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Edgar Feliz > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM > To: Suresh Bhandari > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path > from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > > DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari wrote: > Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE > Collaboration - Sign the Petition! > > For the interested candidates... > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > I already did. Now its your turn. > > Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) > > -- > Suresh Bhandari > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Done. Ikenna Izugbokwe Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice) On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian wrote: > DONE… > > ** ** > > *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: > ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz > *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM > *To:* Suresh Bhandari > *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition > path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > > ** ** > > DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. > > ** ** > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari > wrote: > > *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE > Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! > > For the interested candidates... > > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > I already did. Now its your turn. > > Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) > > > > -- > Suresh Bhandari > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > ** ** > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > -- I ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
DONE. From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Edgar Feliz Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM To: Suresh Bhandari Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari mailto:bring...@gmail.com> > wrote: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration - Sign the Petition! For the interested candidates... Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE I already did. Now its your turn. Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com <mailto:martinsloa...@gmail.com> ) -- Suresh Bhandari ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.PlatinumPlacement.com> ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
I signed petition and posted on FB. CCIE Voice # 34861 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Edgar Feliz wrote: > DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari wrote: > >> *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE >> Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! >> >> For the interested candidates... >> >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >> I already did. Now its your turn. >> >> Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) >> >> -- >> Suresh Bhandari >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
DONE...My wife also posted it on FB. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari wrote: > *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE > Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! > > For the interested candidates... > > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > I already did. Now its your turn. > > Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) > > -- > Suresh Bhandari > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Even I have not got the number yet, but concerned because all my efforts are coming to the dead-end of "already-retired" certification. I know that some may say that knowledge is there. Fortunate if I got the number in second attempt, unfortunate, after 6 months or so, my track becomes a retired one. I know that some, if not most, people are thinking whether they should give a try a second/third/fourth or more times, or wait for new exam, just because there is no proper way for transition. As already mentioned by someone in this forum or somewhere, update for a CCIE exam is not another 8 hour CCIE exam itself. So, thanks everyone for signing the petition. Hope our voice reaches the Cisco decision making body, and at least consider to make some transition wayout, if not grandfathering CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:34 PM, VanBenschoten, Brian < brian.vanbenscho...@corebts.com> wrote: > I signed up > > my take on it > > > > To add on to a point that William Bell made about the evolution of the > CCIE tracks over time and how the written test provides the renewal. > > I'd like to understand how the logic of ending the CCIE-V track works, > when as a R&S CCIE, I'm allowed to take *ANY* written CCIE exam to > recertify every 2 years. > > For the past 3 recertification's I've taken the voice written exam to > maintain my R&S CCIE. Cisco doesn't think any less of me as an R&S CCIE > even though I didn’t take the R&S written. > > I don’t understand how they wouldn’t consider my passing the new > Collaboration CCIE written to re-certify a voice CCIE. The logic just > doesn’t make sense. > > Brian Van Benschoten - CCIE #5421 > > > > > > *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: > ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Suresh Bhandari > *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:41 PM > *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path > from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration > > > > *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE > Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! > > For the interested candidates... > > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > I already did. Now its your turn. > > Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) > > > -- > Suresh Bhandari > > -- > Important Notice: This email message and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to > whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee, you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and > delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions > presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Core BTS. Core BTS specifically disclaims > liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > -- Suresh Bhandari ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
I signed up my take on it To add on to a point that William Bell made about the evolution of the CCIE tracks over time and how the written test provides the renewal. I'd like to understand how the logic of ending the CCIE-V track works, when as a R&S CCIE, I'm allowed to take *ANY* written CCIE exam to recertify every 2 years. For the past 3 recertification's I've taken the voice written exam to maintain my R&S CCIE. Cisco doesn't think any less of me as an R&S CCIE even though I didn't take the R&S written. I don't understand how they wouldn't consider my passing the new Collaboration CCIE written to re-certify a voice CCIE. The logic just doesn't make sense. Brian Van Benschoten - CCIE #5421 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Suresh Bhandari Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:41 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration - Sign the Petition! For the interested candidates... Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE I already did. Now its your turn. Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com<mailto:martinsloa...@gmail.com>) -- Suresh Bhandari Important Notice: This email message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Core BTS. Core BTS specifically disclaims liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
We need to make this a press issue, everyone with a contact in a newspaper, local news host, youtube podcast, radio, everyone with a technology blog should say something about the topic and the effect in the professional community. On May 31, 2013 7:55 AM, "Somphol Boonjing" wrote: > "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker > that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." > -Adam Smith from The Wealth of Nations > > I think the petition at change.org started by John Welsh is a great step > in the right direction for those who want to voice out their concern over > the decision to retire of CCIE Voice without making reasonable transition > path for the current CCIE Voice holder toward the new track.. > https://www.change.org/petitions/cisco-provide-a-reasonable-transition-path-from-ccie-voice-to-ccie-collaboration > > For those who thought this is not relevant to them and should only leave > it to the current CCIE Voice holder only, I want to mention that I am not a > CCIE Voice holder myself but I think there is no guarantee that if this > happens to CCIE Voice once, it won't happen again. It could happen > arbitrarily to any other track. And, one day it will happen to me too. > So, anyone who care about this, should help sign up the petition. > > Of course, I think CCIE holder of any other track should care as well. > Because this "unprecedented" decision could very well be unjustly > applicable to any other track as well. > > Another point I want to make it, we are a bit in the dark as per how the > decision is reached and which "fraction" within Cisco dominated the > decision making process. I think that it is probable that there will be a > minority camp within the decision maker who may need a bit of help from > outside to make the case (against the decision) stronger. So, with that, > the number is still important and would appreciate every one of those > signature for the petition. > > One last point, in the spirit of the quote at the beginning, if anyone can > come up a vivid essay on Cisco stand to lose (from it own self-interest > perspective) and why it should care about it, that would be a big plus > moving forward. > > Regards, > --Somphol. > > --Somphol > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Suresh Bhandari wrote: > >> *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE >> Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! >> >> For the interested candidates... >> >> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE >> I already did. Now its your turn. >> >> Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) >> >> -- >> Suresh Bhandari >> >> ___ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Thanks, Suresh. Counts went up by 100 overnight. Keep it going!! On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari wrote: > *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE > Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! > > For the interested candidates... > > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > I already did. Now its your turn. > > Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) > > -- > Suresh Bhandari > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." -Adam Smith from The Wealth of Nations I think the petition at change.org started by John Welsh is a great step in the right direction for those who want to voice out their concern over the decision to retire of CCIE Voice without making reasonable transition path for the current CCIE Voice holder toward the new track.. https://www.change.org/petitions/cisco-provide-a-reasonable-transition-path-from-ccie-voice-to-ccie-collaboration For those who thought this is not relevant to them and should only leave it to the current CCIE Voice holder only, I want to mention that I am not a CCIE Voice holder myself but I think there is no guarantee that if this happens to CCIE Voice once, it won't happen again. It could happen arbitrarily to any other track. And, one day it will happen to me too. So, anyone who care about this, should help sign up the petition. Of course, I think CCIE holder of any other track should care as well. Because this "unprecedented" decision could very well be unjustly applicable to any other track as well. Another point I want to make it, we are a bit in the dark as per how the decision is reached and which "fraction" within Cisco dominated the decision making process. I think that it is probable that there will be a minority camp within the decision maker who may need a bit of help from outside to make the case (against the decision) stronger. So, with that, the number is still important and would appreciate every one of those signature for the petition. One last point, in the spirit of the quote at the beginning, if anyone can come up a vivid essay on Cisco stand to lose (from it own self-interest perspective) and why it should care about it, that would be a big plus moving forward. Regards, --Somphol. --Somphol On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Suresh Bhandari wrote: > *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE > Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! > > For the interested candidates... > > Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > I already did. Now its your turn. > > Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) > > -- > Suresh Bhandari > > ___ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
*Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration *- Sign the Petition! For the interested candidates... Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE I already did. Now its your turn. Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com) -- Suresh Bhandari ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
