Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-05 Thread Daniel Pagan
Folks:

I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of 
Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today 
saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors 
floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the 
Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the 
CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to 
it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information.

Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the 
concerns being posted.

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0

https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0

Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, 
and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days 
really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and 
hard-earned certifications.

I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689

-Original Message-
From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of 
michael.se...@compucom.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from 
CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Importance: High

If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-05 Thread William Bell
Daniel,

First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up:

 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, 
 and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days 
 really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field 
 and hard-earned certifications.

Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on 
Cisco's radar. Keep it up!

Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an 
acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment 
was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed 
the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All 
feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right 
direction. Even if it has been incremental.

So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this 
down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that 
we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the 
community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, 
stay on message, and (as always) be polite.


-Bill

--
William Bell, CCIE #38914
blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla




On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

 Folks:
 
 I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of 
 Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today 
 saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors 
 floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the 
 Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the 
 CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me 
 to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information.
 
 Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the 
 concerns being posted.
 
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0
 
 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0
 
 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, 
 and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days 
 really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field 
 and hard-earned certifications.
 
 I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
 Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of 
 michael.se...@compucom.com
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from 
 CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
 Importance: High
 
 If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: 
 http://chn.ge/17A0zXE
 
 Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404
 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing 
 Systems
 
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-05 Thread Michael Miller
This post was made on the Learning @ Cisco Facebook page:

To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from Fred
Weiller, Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco:
We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will
be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the
evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the
CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration
credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We
appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we
update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating
further details about this modification as soon as possible.
It seems the request for a migration path via written exam will be the way
forward.

Thanks,

Mike

On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote:

 Daniel,

 First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up:

 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke
 loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the
 past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is
 to their field and hard-earned certifications.


 Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this
 topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up!

 Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just
 an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing
 comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may
 have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't
 bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend
 in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental.

 So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close
 this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be
 satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of
 support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the
 throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite.


 -Bill

 --
 William Bell, CCIE #38914
 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
 Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla




 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

 Folks:

 I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads
 of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today
 saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors
 floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of
 the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into
 the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't
 hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information.

 Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the
 concerns being posted.

 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0

 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0

 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke
 loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the
 past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is
 to their field and hard-earned certifications.

 I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel.

 Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689

 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of
 michael.se...@compucom.com
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path
 from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
 Importance: High

 If you haven't already done so please sign this petition:
 http://chn.ge/17A0zXE

 Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404
 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified
 Computing Systems


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-05 Thread William Bell
FYI. The CCIE WINS its voice back!

http://bit.ly/11ise6g

Great job to everyone on this list for getting together and pushing for change. 
Daniel said it best!

-Bil

--
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blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla




On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

 Folks:
 
 I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of 
 Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today 
 saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors 
 floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the 
 Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the 
 CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me 
 to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information.
 
 Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the 
 concerns being posted.
 
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0
 
 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0
 
 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, 
 and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days 
 really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field 
 and hard-earned certifications.
 
 I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
 Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of 
 michael.se...@compucom.com
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from 
 CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
 Importance: High
 
 If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: 
 http://chn.ge/17A0zXE
 
 Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404
 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing 
 Systems
 
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-05 Thread Josh Reola
Just released.

To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from the Director 
of Marketing at Learning@Cisco:

We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be 
adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the 
evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE 
Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration 
credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate 
all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our 
webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about 
this modification as soon as possible.


Just the messenger,


Josh Reola
www.ciscosimplified.com

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:40 PM, William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote:

 Daniel,
 
 First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up:
 
 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, 
 and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few 
 days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their 
 field and hard-earned certifications.
 
 Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic 
 on Cisco's radar. Keep it up!
 
 Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an 
 acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment 
 was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed 
 the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All 
 feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right 
 direction. Even if it has been incremental.
 
 So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this 
 down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied 
 that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the 
 community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, 
 stay on message, and (as always) be polite.
 
 
 -Bill
 
 --
 William Bell, CCIE #38914
 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com
 Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:
 
 Folks:
 
 I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of 
 Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today 
 saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors 
 floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the 
 Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the 
 CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me 
 to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information.
 
 Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the 
 concerns being posted.
 
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0
 
 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0
 
 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, 
 and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few 
 days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their 
 field and hard-earned certifications.
 
 I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
 Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com 
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of 
 michael.se...@compucom.com
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from 
 CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
 Importance: High
 
 If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: 
 http://chn.ge/17A0zXE
 
 Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404
 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified 
 Computing Systems
 
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-05 Thread nielsenj
Just got this in my email:

Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: We are
listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be
adjusting the
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE
Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the
CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voice CCIE
Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration
credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We
appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we
update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating
further details about this modification as soon as possible.
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco
Learning Network Moderator



Jason Nielsen
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, michael.se...@compucom.com wrote:

 If you haven't already done so please sign this petition:
 http://chn.ge/17A0zXE

 Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404
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 Computing Systems


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-05 Thread Bill Lake
This is the post on Cisco website.

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968

I hope my argument helped and I want to thank all those that spent an equal
and thoughtful amount of time on this.  Success only means we get a
reasonable path to migration and I believe this should be considered a
WIN/WIN for both Cisco and us.

Bill


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM, nielsenj niels...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just got this in my email:

 Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: We are
 listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be
 adjusting the
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE
  Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the
 CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voiceCCIE 
 Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration
 credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We
 appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we
 update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating
 further details about this modification as soon as possible.
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968
 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco
 Learning Network Moderator



 Jason Nielsen
 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, michael.se...@compucom.com wrote:

 If you haven't already done so please sign this petition:
 http://chn.ge/17A0zXE

 Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404
 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified
 Computing Systems


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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-03 Thread Michael.Sears
If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE

Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404
Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing 
Systems


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-02 Thread m george
So, once this petition reaches a solid number ( a thousand or more ), will
it be forwarded to Cisco team or will it be presented in printed form ? how
does this work from here onwards  ?

Those who are going to Cisco Live this month will get chance to talk
in-person with many Cisco engineers/decision makers. Guys, please voice
community's concern  this announcement must must must be changed or a easy
transition path be provided.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Brian Valentine bkvalent...@gmail.comwrote:

 As have I


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Ramcharan Arya ramcharan.a...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I signed as well.

 Thanks,
 Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( RS)



 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe 
 ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Done.

 Ikenna Izugbokwe
 Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice)


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian id21...@gmail.com wrote:

 DONE…

 ** **

 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz
 *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM
 *To:* Suresh Bhandari
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable
 transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

 ** **

 DONE...My wife also posted it on FB.

 ** **

 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
 Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

 For the interested candidates...

 Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE 

 I already did. Now its your turn.

 Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)
 


 --
 Suresh Bhandari


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-01 Thread Josh Petro
I also signed and passed it along to a few Cisco employees that I have a
great relationship with (one is also a low number CCIE Voice).
Josh
On Jun 1, 2013 12:28 AM, Ramcharan Arya ramcharan.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 I signed as well.

 Thanks,
 Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( RS)



 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe 
 ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Done.

 Ikenna Izugbokwe
 Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice)


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian id21...@gmail.com wrote:

 DONE…

 ** **

 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz
 *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM
 *To:* Suresh Bhandari
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable
 transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

 ** **

 DONE...My wife also posted it on FB.

 ** **

 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
 Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

 For the interested candidates...

 Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE 

 I already did. Now its your turn.

 Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)
 


 --
 Suresh Bhandari


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-06-01 Thread Brian Valentine
As have I


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Ramcharan Arya
ramcharan.a...@gmail.comwrote:

 I signed as well.

 Thanks,
 Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( RS)



 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe 
 ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Done.

 Ikenna Izugbokwe
 Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice)


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian id21...@gmail.com wrote:

 DONE…

 ** **

 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz
 *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM
 *To:* Suresh Bhandari
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable
 transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

 ** **

 DONE...My wife also posted it on FB.

 ** **

 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
 Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

 For the interested candidates...

 Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE 

 I already did. Now its your turn.

 Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)
 


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-05-31 Thread Martin Sloan
Thanks, Suresh.  Counts went up by 100 overnight.  Keep it going!!


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
 Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

 For the interested candidates...

 Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE
 I already did. Now its your turn.

 Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-05-31 Thread Suresh Bhandari
Even I have not got the number yet, but concerned because all my efforts
are coming to the dead-end of already-retired certification. I know that
some may say that knowledge is there. Fortunate if I got the number in
second attempt, unfortunate, after 6 months or so, my track becomes a
retired one.

I know that some, if not most, people are thinking whether they should give
a try a second/third/fourth or more times, or wait for new exam, just
because there is no proper way for transition. As already mentioned by
someone in this forum or somewhere, update for a CCIE exam is not another 8
hour CCIE exam itself.

So, thanks everyone for signing the petition. Hope our voice reaches the
Cisco decision making body, and at least consider to make some transition
wayout, if not grandfathering CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration.


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:34 PM, VanBenschoten, Brian 
brian.vanbenscho...@corebts.com wrote:

  I signed up

 my take on it



 To add on to a point that William Bell made about the evolution of the
 CCIE tracks over time and how the written test provides the renewal.

 I'd like to understand how the logic of ending the CCIE-V  track works,
 when as a RS CCIE,  I'm allowed to take *ANY* written CCIE exam to
 recertify every 2 years.

 For the past 3 recertification's I've taken the voice written exam to
 maintain my RS CCIE.  Cisco doesn't think any less of me as an RS CCIE
 even though I didn’t take the RS written.

 I don’t understand how they wouldn’t consider my passing the new
 Collaboration CCIE written to re-certify a voice CCIE.  The logic just
 doesn’t make sense.

 Brian Van Benschoten - CCIE  #5421





 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Suresh Bhandari
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:41 PM
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path
 from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration



 *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
 Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

 For the interested candidates...

 Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE

 I already did. Now its your turn.

 Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-05-31 Thread Maria Bagamanova
I signed petition and posted on FB.

CCIE Voice # 34861


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Edgar Feliz ejzi...@gmail.com wrote:

 DONE...My wife also posted it on FB.


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
 Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

 For the interested candidates...

 Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE
 I already did. Now its your turn.

 Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-05-31 Thread Tian
DONE.

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Edgar Feliz
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM
To: Suresh Bhandari
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path
from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

 

DONE...My wife also posted it on FB.

 

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.com
mailto:bring...@gmail.com  wrote:

Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
Collaboration - Sign the Petition!

For the interested candidates...

Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE 

I already did. Now its your turn.

Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com
mailto:martinsloa...@gmail.com )



-- 
Suresh Bhandari


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-05-31 Thread Ramcharan Arya
I signed as well.

Thanks,
Ramcharan Arya CCIE # 28926 ( RS)



On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ikenna Izugbokwe 
ikenna.izugbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Done.

 Ikenna Izugbokwe
 Former - CCIE #36,472 (Voice)


 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tian id21...@gmail.com wrote:

 DONE…

 ** **

 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Edgar Feliz
 *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 1:36 PM
 *To:* Suresh Bhandari
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition
 path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

 ** **

 DONE...My wife also posted it on FB.

 ** **

 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 *Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
 Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

 For the interested candidates...

 Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE 

 I already did. Now its your turn.

 Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)
 


 --
 Suresh Bhandari


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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration

2013-05-30 Thread Suresh Bhandari
*Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE
Collaboration *- Sign the Petition!

For the interested candidates...

Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE
I already did. Now its your turn.

Initially shared by Martin Sloan (martinsloa...@gmail.com)

-- 
Suresh Bhandari
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