Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-08-01 Thread Beck, Ken
What about if we just set the egress limit to 10% of the total bandwidth
of the port like this below.

Limiting the Bandwidth on an Egress Interface

Switch(config)# interface FastEthernet1/0/2
Switch(config-if)# srr-queue bandwidth limit 10

When you configure this command to 80 percent, the port is idle 90
percent of the time. The line rate drops to 10 percent of the connected
speed, which is 10 Mb/s. These values are not exact because the hardware
adjusts the line rate in increments of six.


Does that work for the question?


Regards,
Ken Beck


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   1. Layer 2 QOS (Jeff Cotter)
   2. Re: Layer 2 QOS (Matthew Berry)
   3. Re: Layer 2 QOS (Jeff Cotter)
   4. Re: Layer 2 QOS (Daniel Berlinski)
   5. Re: Layer 2 QOS (Matthew Berry)


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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:19:19 -0700
From: Jeff Cotter 
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How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of
the bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in
enabled, shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So
how do you accomplish this without using Shape command.
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You could treat it as a priority queue by throwing CoS 5 or DSCP EF into
Q1. You could then shape it to 10, which would result in 10%. You would
also need to do a "no priority-queue out" under the interface.

But I don't think you can have priority on the queue and still limit the
queue to only part of the pipe.


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On Jul 29, 2010, at 20:19, Jeff Cotter  wrote:

> How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10%
of the bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue
in enabled, shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So
how do you accomplish this without using Shape command.
> 
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:56:31 -0700
From: Jeff Cotter 
To: Matthew Berry 
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" 
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS
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Hello Matthew and thanks for the reply.  However my thought is??putting
COS 5 and EF into Q1 does not make it a priority queue.  Which by
definition means the queue is serviced until it is empty BEFORE the
other queues are serviced.  This behavior is only in effect with the
priority queue out command.


The Ingress queues have the proper commands to control the size of the
priority queue mls qos srr-queue input priority-queue queue-id bandwidth
weight but not the egress queues.

Of course I my logic could be flawed here.



From: Matthew Berry [mailto:ciscovoiceg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 6:48 PM
To: Jeff Cotter
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

You could treat it as a priority queue by throwing CoS 5 or DSCP EF into
Q1. You could then shape it to 10, which would result in 10%. You would
also need to do a "no priority-queue out" under the interface.

But I don't think you can have priority on the queue and still limit the
queue to only part of the pipe.

Matthew Berry

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Miron Kobelski
agree. change threshold in order to limit it. once pq is enabled its always
serviced first. shape doesnt apply. thats what vik said on the bootcamp.

regards

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On Jul 30, 2010 4:02 AM, "Daniel Berlinski"  wrote:

In my opinion this is done by adjusting the buffer size for queue 1 and
applying it to a queue-set.  srr shape statement in my opinion means nothing
in relation to adjusting priority queue size.

http://onlinestudylist.com/archives/ccie_voice/2010-July/069398.html



On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jeff Cotter  wrote:

> >
> > How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of
> the bandwidth.  The doc...
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Matthew Berry
So what's the answer? Vik/Amy - Opinions?


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On Jul 29, 2010, at 21:21, Jeff Cotter  wrote:

> Interesting……Thanks Daniel great thought!
> 
>  
> 
> From: Daniel Berlinski [mailto:dberlin...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:03 PM
> To: Jeff Cotter
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS
> 
>  
> 
> In my opinion this is done by adjusting the buffer size for queue 1 and 
> applying it to a queue-set.  srr shape statement in my opinion means nothing 
> in relation to adjusting priority queue size.
> 
> http://onlinestudylist.com/archives/ccie_voice/2010-July/069398.html
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jeff Cotter  wrote:
> 
> How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of the 
> bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in enabled, 
> shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So how do you 
> accomplish this without using Shape command.
> 
> 
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> 
>  
> 
> ___
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> visit www.ipexpert.com
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Jeff Cotter
Interesting..Thanks Daniel great thought!

From: Daniel Berlinski [mailto:dberlin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:03 PM
To: Jeff Cotter
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

In my opinion this is done by adjusting the buffer size for queue 1 and 
applying it to a queue-set.  srr shape statement in my opinion means nothing in 
relation to adjusting priority queue size.

http://onlinestudylist.com/archives/ccie_voice/2010-July/069398.html


On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jeff Cotter 
mailto:jcot...@voxns.com>> wrote:
How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of the 
bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in enabled, 
shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So how do you 
accomplish this without using Shape command.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Matthew Berry
Jeff -

I've struggled with the same issue. This is something I'd really like Vik or 
Amy to comment on.

If we need to treat traffic as priority while also dedicating 10% to that 
traffic, how would you do that? I thought Vik said to just remove the 
priority-queue out command under the interface (during our OWLE) but it still 
doesn't seem right to me.

Any others?


Matthew Berry

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On Jul 29, 2010, at 20:56, Jeff Cotter  wrote:

> Hello Matthew and thanks for the reply.  However my thought is……putting COS 5 
> and EF into Q1 does not make it a priority queue.  Which by definition means 
> the queue is serviced until it is empty BEFORE the other queues are serviced. 
>  This behavior is only in effect with the priority queue out command.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> The Ingress queues have the proper commands to control the size of the 
> priority queue mls qos srr-queue input priority-queue queue-id bandwidth 
> weight but not the egress queues.
> 
>  
> 
> Of course I my logic could be flawed here.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Matthew Berry [mailto:ciscovoiceg...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 6:48 PM
> To: Jeff Cotter
> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS
> 
>  
> 
> You could treat it as a priority queue by throwing CoS 5 or DSCP EF into Q1. 
> You could then shape it to 10, which would result in 10%. You would also need 
> to do a "no priority-queue out" under the interface.
> 
>  
> 
> But I don't think you can have priority on the queue and still limit the 
> queue to only part of the pipe.
> 
>  
> 
> Matthew Berry
> 
>  
> 
> **Sent from my iPhone**
> 
> Skype/Twitter: ciscovoiceguru
> 
> Google Voice: +1 612 424 5044
> 
> 
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 20:19, Jeff Cotter  wrote:
> 
> How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of the 
> bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in enabled, 
> shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So how do you 
> accomplish this without using Shape command.
> 
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Daniel Berlinski
In my opinion this is done by adjusting the buffer size for queue 1 and
applying it to a queue-set.  srr shape statement in my opinion means nothing
in relation to adjusting priority queue size.

http://onlinestudylist.com/archives/ccie_voice/2010-July/069398.html



On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Jeff Cotter  wrote:

>  How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of
> the bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in
> enabled, shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So how do
> you accomplish this without using Shape command.
>
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
>
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Jeff Cotter
Hello Matthew and thanks for the reply.  However my thought is……putting COS 5 
and EF into Q1 does not make it a priority queue.  Which by definition means 
the queue is serviced until it is empty BEFORE the other queues are serviced.  
This behavior is only in effect with the priority queue out command.


The Ingress queues have the proper commands to control the size of the priority 
queue mls qos srr-queue input priority-queue queue-id bandwidth weight but not 
the egress queues.

Of course I my logic could be flawed here.



From: Matthew Berry [mailto:ciscovoiceg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 6:48 PM
To: Jeff Cotter
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

You could treat it as a priority queue by throwing CoS 5 or DSCP EF into Q1. 
You could then shape it to 10, which would result in 10%. You would also need 
to do a "no priority-queue out" under the interface.

But I don't think you can have priority on the queue and still limit the queue 
to only part of the pipe.

Matthew Berry

**Sent from my iPhone**
Skype/Twitter: ciscovoiceguru
Google Voice: +1 612 424 5044

On Jul 29, 2010, at 20:19, Jeff Cotter 
mailto:jcot...@voxns.com>> wrote:
How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of the 
bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in enabled, 
shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So how do you 
accomplish this without using Shape command.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Matthew Berry
You could treat it as a priority queue by throwing CoS 5 or DSCP EF into Q1. 
You could then shape it to 10, which would result in 10%. You would also need 
to do a "no priority-queue out" under the interface.

But I don't think you can have priority on the queue and still limit the queue 
to only part of the pipe.


Matthew Berry

**Sent from my iPhone**
Skype/Twitter: ciscovoiceguru
Google Voice: +1 612 424 5044

On Jul 29, 2010, at 20:19, Jeff Cotter  wrote:

> How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of the 
> bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in enabled, 
> shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So how do you 
> accomplish this without using Shape command.
> 
> ___
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 QOS

2010-07-29 Thread Jeff Cotter
How would you enable the priority queue AND make sure queue 1 has 10% of the 
bandwidth.  The documentation states that if the priority queue in enabled, 
shape and share configuration for that queue is ignored.  So how do you 
accomplish this without using Shape command.
___
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