[ccp4bb] How to show density map in pymol?

2007-10-31 Thread yang li
Hi All,
  If I want to show the density map in pymol--like coot open mtz file--,
what format should I use?
It seems pymol doesnot recognise the mtz format .

Thanks!


Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Screens

2007-10-31 Thread William Scott
Dear Ray:

The Crystal Screen I is based on a screen that was developed over a period of 
years in Sung-Hou Kim's lab, and is heavily weighted with conditions that were 
successful for obtaining the protein crystals that were particular to his lab 
at that time (which was when I was a graduate student and before, so Ronald 
Reagan was still President and my rent in Berkeley was $250/mo).  The Natrix 
screen is based on one I made for screening RNA crystals using primarily PEGs 
in 1993, with no particular insight.

The screens are convenient, but they aren't magical. Don't be shy about making 
your own up.

Bill Scott

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:22:40 -0400
Ray Changrui Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I am forwarding this email as requested by a lab member due to
 technical difficulties in school mail accounts.
 
 Ray
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I usually try out Hampton crystal screen I  II, and PEG/ion screens
 on my proteins, sometimes  varying  protein concentrations and
 incubation temperature. If no hints are obtained, I will go back to
 test alternative constructs and purification protocols. With more
 and more companies selling crystal screens, and the accumulation of
 knowledge from structural genomics projects, I worry that my
 practice might have been outdated. I wonder if people could share
 with me:
 
 1) What is your favorite set of crystal screens that maximize the
 chance of getting the crystals while minimize the sample usage, and
 perhaps more importantly, when do you decide to stop for better
 constructs?
 
 2) Are there any other screens targeting nucleic acid and NA-protein
 complexes other than the Natrix and the Nucleic Acid Mini Screen
 sold by Hampton Research? Here I mean real different conditions, not
 just a re-label.
 
 I'd appreciate your thoughts.
 
 Best
 
 


[ccp4bb] Sliding window net charge program?

2007-10-31 Thread Jacob Keller

Hello all,

does anybody know of a program which calculates net charge within a sliding 
window of user-defined size? Hydropathy programs are almost this, but not 
quite--they use absolute values rather than the signed ones (what is the 
opposite of an absolute value called? the relative value?).


Jacob

ps I sent a version of this email earlier, but did not see it show up on the 
BB.


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Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo-merohedral twinning and Molecular replacement

2007-10-31 Thread Stein, ND (Norman)
Yes, as the twinning fraction increases from 0 to 0.5, the cumulative
intensity distribution curve changes in a continuous way from untwinned
to perfectly twinned. The exact way in which it does this was calculated
by Rees (Acta A 36, 578 (1980)). Note that the variation is markedly
non-linear - if the plot is 'a little off' the untwinned plot the
twinning fraction may be rather more than you think, whereas if the plot
is 'a little off' the perfectly twinned plot, the twinning fraction will
still be very close to 0.5. 

The usual caveats apply - for example the shape of the cumulative
intensity distribution can be affected by pseudosymmetry as well as
twinning, so while the cumulative intensity distribution can indeed be
used to detect partial as well as perfect twinning, it is important to
consider other measures (e.g. moments) as well.

Norman 

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bryan W. Lepore
Sent: 30 October 2007 17:29
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo-merohedral twinning and Molecular
replacement

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Iain Kerr wrote:
 The cumulative intensity distribution plot from crystal A did suggest 
 partial twinning (attached, doesn't look too bad though..)

notwithstanding other plots/statistics, does the cum. intens. dist. plot
(e.g. from truncate) really show a continuum from untwinned to twinned?

i.e, if the plots are 'overlapped in the middle', no question - twinned.

but, if the plots are 'a little off, but not in the middle' can this
result (alone) really mean the data is - as we want to say - partially
twinned?  i.e. is the plot robust only for the detection of perfect
twinning?

-bryan


Re: [ccp4bb] How to show density map in pymol?

2007-10-31 Thread Daniel Schlieper
Dear Yang Li,

to quote from Stefan Schmelz's post on this topic:

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:40:42 +
From: Stefan Schmelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] pymol help

Dear Yanming,

To show pretty density of a model you have to import a ccp4 density map
and display it around your ligand. The simplest solution is using ccp4 and
tick the box Generate weighted difference maps files in CCP4 format when
running Refmac5 (one  or two cycles  are enough).  Specify  names for FWT
and DelFwt maps and rename the maps afterwards to *.ccp4. This renamed map
(e.g. fwt.ccp4) can be opened in pymol. [...]

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, yang li wrote:

 Hi All,
   If I want to show the density map in pymol--like coot open mtz file--,
 what format should I use?
 It seems pymol doesnot recognise the mtz format .
 
 Thanks!
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Screens

2007-10-31 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
There are some screens for sale based on experiences of large Structural
Genomics consortia, the JCSG (+) screen is an example. Screens like these
are often biased towards the type of organism targeted by the consortium
(e.g. eukaryotic/prokaryotic)

Flip 

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
William Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:09 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Screens

Dear Ray:

The Crystal Screen I is based on a screen that was developed over a period
of years in Sung-Hou Kim's lab, and is heavily weighted with conditions that
were successful for obtaining the protein crystals that were particular to
his lab at that time (which was when I was a graduate student and before, so
Ronald Reagan was still President and my rent in Berkeley was $250/mo).  The
Natrix screen is based on one I made for screening RNA crystals using
primarily PEGs in 1993, with no particular insight.

The screens are convenient, but they aren't magical. Don't be shy about
making your own up.

Bill Scott

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:22:40 -0400
Ray Changrui Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I am forwarding this email as requested by a lab member due to
 technical difficulties in school mail accounts.
 
 Ray
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I usually try out Hampton crystal screen I  II, and PEG/ion screens
 on my proteins, sometimes  varying  protein concentrations and
 incubation temperature. If no hints are obtained, I will go back to
 test alternative constructs and purification protocols. With more
 and more companies selling crystal screens, and the accumulation of
 knowledge from structural genomics projects, I worry that my
 practice might have been outdated. I wonder if people could share
 with me:
 
 1) What is your favorite set of crystal screens that maximize the
 chance of getting the crystals while minimize the sample usage, and
 perhaps more importantly, when do you decide to stop for better
 constructs?
 
 2) Are there any other screens targeting nucleic acid and NA-protein
 complexes other than the Natrix and the Nucleic Acid Mini Screen
 sold by Hampton Research? Here I mean real different conditions, not
 just a re-label.
 
 I'd appreciate your thoughts.
 
 Best
 
 


[ccp4bb] your favorite crystallization screens

2007-10-31 Thread Ailong Ke

Hello,

I usually try out Hampton crystal screen I  II, and PEG/ion screens 
on my proteins, sometimes  varying  protein concentrations and 
incubation temperature. If no hints are obtained, I will go back to 
test alternative constructs and purification protocols. With more and 
more companies selling crystal screens, and the accumulation of 
knowledge from structural genomics projects, I worry that my practice 
might have been outdated. I wonder if people could share with me:


1) What is your favorite set of crystal screens that maximize the 
chance of getting the crystals while minimize the sample usage, and 
perhaps more importantly, when do you decide to stop for better 
constructs?


2) Are there any other screens targeting nucleic acid and NA-protein 
complexes other than the Natrix and the Nucleic Acid Mini Screen sold 
by Hampton Research? Here I mean real different conditions, not just 
a re-label.


I'd appreciate your thoughts.

Best

Ailong


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[ccp4bb] Programs for analysing the drugability of a small-molecule binding pocket

2007-10-31 Thread Karsten Niefind
Dear colleagues,

I am looking for a computational method to assess reliably the drugability of 
a small-
molecule binding pocket (volume, surface, interaction potential etc.) on a 
protein surface.

Any recommandations and experiences are welcome!

Many thanks in advance!

Karsten Niefind



Institute of Biochemistry
University of Cologne
Zuelpicher Str. 47
D-50674 Cologne
Germany


[ccp4bb] converting structure factor files to mtz files

2007-10-31 Thread Zheng Zhou
Hi,

Could anyone give a quick hint for the Fortran format for the following
structure factor mmCIF file? or Is there any easy program or better way to
convert it? I think I need to skip first 3 columns.

Thanks in advance.

Joe

loop_
_refln.crystal_id
_refln.wavelength_id
_refln.scale_group_code
_refln.index_h
_refln.index_k
_refln.index_l
_refln.F_meas_au
_refln.F_meas_sigma_au
_refln.status
1 1 1200 617.50   5.41  o
1 1 1400 773.50   6.92  o
1 1 1600  62.30   3.19  o

I am trying to view the electron density of a published structure. I
downloaded the file from pdb and used cif2mtz in ccp4. I think the following
output mtz is wrong.

* Column Labels :

 H K L FREE FP SIGFP F(+) SIGF(+) F(-) SIGF(-) DP SIGDP I(+) SIGI(+) I(-)
SIGI(-)

 * Column Types :

 H H H I F Q G L G L D Q K M K M

 * Associated datasets :

 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

 * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions above)

   88.0800   86.3600   80.7700   90.   95.7100   90.

 *  Resolution Range :

0.000450.29217 ( 47.298 -  1.850 A )

 * Sort Order :

  1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'C 1 2 1' (number 5)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.292
 ===


 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution   Type
Column
 num order   Missing complete  abs.   LowHigh
label

   1 ASC-47  47  0  100.00 -1.4 17.9  47.28   1.85   H
H
   2 NONE 0  46  0  100.00 17.2 17.2  47.28   1.85   H
K
   3 NONE 0  43  0  100.00 16.4 16.4  47.28   1.85   H
L
   4 NONE0.019.0 0  100.00 9.52 9.52  47.28   1.85   I
FREE
   5 NONE0.0  1566.050   99.90   162.85   162.85  47.28   1.85   F
FP
   6 NONE0.082.150   99.90 9.49 9.49  47.28   1.85   Q
SIGFP
   7 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   G
F(+)
   8 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   L
SIGF(+)
   9 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   G
F(-)
  10 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   L
SIGF(-)
  11 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   D
DP
  12 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   Q
SIGDP
  13 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   K
I(+)
  14 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   M
SIGI(+)
  15 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   K
I(-)
  16 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   M
SIGI(-)


 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS51373



 LIST OF REFLECTIONS
 ===

  -47   1   10.00  0.00  0.00   ? ? ?
  ? ? ? ? ? ?
  ?
  -47   1   20.00  0.00  0.00   ? ? ?
  ? ? ? ? ? ?
  ?
  -47   1   3   17.00  0.00  0.00   ? ? ?
  ? ? ? ? ? ?


Re: [ccp4bb] converting structure factor files to mtz files

2007-10-31 Thread Herbert J. Bernstein

If you want to roll your own...


If you add the data_xxx line to make this a legal CIF, you should
be able to read it with ciftbx if you are working in a Fortran application
or CBFlib if you are working in a C application.  You will find
a variety of CIF tools pointed to from the IUCr web site and from the
RCSB web site.



At 7:49 PM -0400 10/31/07, Zheng Zhou wrote:

Hi,

Could anyone give a quick hint for the Fortran format for the 
following structure factor mmCIF file? or Is there any easy program 
or better way to convert it? I think I need to skip first 3 columns.


Thanks in advance.

Joe

loop_
_refln.crystal_id
_refln.wavelength_id
_refln.scale_group_code
_refln.index_h
_refln.index_k
_refln.index_l
_refln.F_meas_au
_refln.F_meas_sigma_au
_refln.status
1 1 1200 617.50   5.41  o
1 1 1400 773.50   6.92  o
1 1 1600  62.30   3.19  o

I am trying to view the electron density of a published structure. I 
downloaded the file from pdb and used cif2mtz in ccp4. I think the 
following output mtz is wrong.


* Column Labels :

 H K L FREE FP SIGFP F(+) SIGF(+) F(-) SIGF(-) DP SIGDP I(+) SIGI(+) 
I(-) SIGI(-)


 * Column Types :

 H H H I F Q G L G L D Q K M K M

 * Associated datasets :

 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

 * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions above)

   88.0800   86.3600   80.7700   90.   95.7100   90.

 *  Resolution Range :

0.000450.29217 ( 47.298 -  1.850 A )

 * Sort Order :

  1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'C 1 2 1' (number 5)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.292
 ===


 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution 
Type Column
 num order   Missing complete  abs.   Low 
High   label


   1 ASC-47  47  0  100.00  -1.4 17.9  47.28   1.85   H  H
   2 NONE 0  46  0  100.00 17.2 17.2  47.28   1.85   H  K
   3 NONE 0  43  0  100.00 16.4 16.4  47.28   1.85   H  L
   4 NONE0.0 19.0 0  100.00 9.52 9.52  47.28 
1.85   I  FREE

   5 NONE0.0  1566.050   99.90   162.85   162.85  47.28   1.85   F  FP
   6 NONE0.082.150   99.90 9.49 9.49  47.28 
1.85   Q  SIGFP
   7 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   G  F(+)
   8 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   L  SIGF(+)
   9 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  - 999.00 
0.00   G  F(-)
  10 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   L  SIGF(-)

  11 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00   0.00   D  DP
  12 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   Q  SIGDP
  13 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   K  I(+)
  14 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   M  SIGI(+)
  15 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   K  I(-)
  16 BOTH ?   ?  513730.00  ??  -999.00 
0.00   M  SIGI(-)



 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS51373



 LIST OF REFLECTIONS
 ===

  -47   1   10.00  0.00  0.00   ? ? ? 
  ? ? ? ? ? ? 
  ? 
  -47   1   20.00  0.00  0.00   ? ? ? 
  ? ? ? ? ? ? 
  ? 
  -47   1   3   17.00  0.00  0.00   ? ? ? 
  ? ? ? ? ? ?



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