[ccp4bb] combine Se-SAD phase with Model-phase

2008-05-07 Thread Raja Dey
  
Hi,
It would be of great help if you can give some
suggestion on the following problem.


I have two data sets of a
complex molecule. One is native (3.6A) and the other is Se-der
(4.5A). In one complex molecule I have one homo-dimer in complex with
DNA( 2 times 90 aa + 2 times 15 na = ~MW 28000, call it as component
1) plus a second long helical protein(130 aa, call it as component
2). I have two such complex molecule in the AU (space gr. P65).  
I got a very good solution by
PHASER(using native data) for the component 1, but component 2 has
some ambiguity.  
I used the solution of
component 1 and Se-der data to create Ano-diff Fourier map from model
phase. I got clear peaks at 3.5 sigma exactly at the Met-S positions.
I pulled out 11 Se sites, 9 of which are precisely exists at the
right positions looked upon the model component 1).  Other 2 are
expecting on the two copy of component 2.
What I did next?
1. I used CNS to create both
SAD phase from Se and Model phase from component 1 and then combined
them. Used the combine HL co-eff to run density modification and
create 2Fo-Fc map. Very poor quality, but you can see some features.
2. Used only SAD phase from Se
sites and run density modification  followed by 2Fo-Fc map
generation.
Useless map.
3. Run SHARP/AutoSHARP with Se
sites upto DM. Then run solvent flattening with model component 1.
No good map.
Do you know any other way to
go from here? Running rigid.inp, anneal.inp, minimize.inp and
bgroup.inp sequentially with the component 1 I reached R/R(free)
40%/45%.  
Any suggestion is well
appreciated.
Regards...
Raja


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[ccp4bb] metal atoms written from coot in refmac

2008-05-07 Thread Leonard Thomas
I have run across a problem and I am not sure where it originates  
from.  When I use a pdb input file that contains a metal atom, say  
Cu, that has been written out by coot in refmac I get a read error of  
the sort that refmac does not recognize the Cu.  If I then edit the  
pdb file and change CU to Cu under the atom name column.  As  shown  
below


As written by coot:
ATOM   3813 CUCu E   1  28.093 -26.964 -10.810  1.00  
54.30  CU


After editing:
ATOM   3813 CuCu E   1  28.093 -26.964 -10.810  1.00  
54.30  CU



This pops up occasionally with other metal atoms also and while the  
work around is fairly easy it is an annoying problem.  Has anybody  
else seen this before? and does anybody know why it happens?


Len


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Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread Bryan W. Lepore

> mosflm
Bill just beat me to writing the same. I would mention XDS as well.


labelit will index your images

http://adder.lbl.gov/labelit/

... then you give the scripts to mosflm.  there's plenty of Acta Cryst. 
there to read too.


-bryan


Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Waddling
Agreed, but it's nice to have options, as I'm sure we've all experienced,
one program (and sometimes it's HKL2000) just seems to work better than
another with some data.  But yes, being that this is the CCP4BB, mosflm does
indeed rock.

Thanks,

Chris



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> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:23:34 +0100
> To: Chris Waddling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux
> 
> Dear Chris,
> 
>  Bill just beat me to writing the same. I would mention XDS as well.
>  
>  
>  With best wishes,
>  
>   Gerard.
> 
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> On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 03:17:07PM -0700, William Scott wrote:
>> mosflm is an incredibly great program, not to mention free as in beer...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:
>> 
>>> my frustration at HKL2000 not working
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Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Chris,

 Bill just beat me to writing the same. I would mention XDS as well.
 
 
 With best wishes,
 
  Gerard.

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On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 03:17:07PM -0700, William Scott wrote:
> mosflm is an incredibly great program, not to mention free as in beer...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:
> 
> > my frustration at HKL2000 not working

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Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread William Scott

mosflm is an incredibly great program, not to mention free as in beer...




On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:


 my frustration at HKL2000 not working


Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Waddling
After further reflection upon my HKL2000 post a few days ago, I felt I
needed to clarify a few things and address some of the responses that I got
to the post.  Most of all, I think it necessary for me to offer my sysadmin
an unqualified apology.

First off, in no way was my he impeding our ability to get our work done.  I
vented my frustration at HKL2000 not working at him instead of at HKL.  His
assessment of the situation was to get guidance from HKL as to how best to
proceed.  After waiting weeks for a response from them, some of the stop-gap
measures that other users also seemed to think should work, appeared to me
to be our only recourse in the short term.  In the end, it turns out Suse
isn't officially supported by HKL, which may explain the amount of time it
took to hear back from them about it.

Between Suse 10.2 and 10.3, compatibility with previous releases was
eliminated, and so some of the solutions presented by other users weren't
going to work, either.  I neglected to mention the OS we were using, and it
turns out this is important.  Not mucking with the guts of the OS is
probably a good call, and so even temporarily putting a library where it
doesn't belong may solve the symptom, but it doesn't solve the problem.

Finally, to end my mea culpa on a positive note, thanks for the helpful
responses to those who sent them.

Chris

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Re: [ccp4bb] How to create TLS file

2008-05-07 Thread David R. Cooper
The CCP4i method is to use the "Create / Edit TLS File" task in the 
"Refinement" module.


I have used the TLSMD-server before, and I do like it.
I did notice that my R-free would be lower if I used the server's 
definitions of TLS groups, but let Refmac do the TLS analysis from scratch 
instead of using the server's TLS values.  Has anyone else seeen this?


David

On Wed, 7 May 2008 19:29:53 +0200
 Georg Zocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

U Sam schrieb:
Suggestion please. How TLS file is created to be used in Refmac 
refinement.

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I recommend to use the TLSMD-server (J Painter & E A Merritt (2006) Acta 
Cryst. D62, 439-450)

http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/~tlsmd/

best regards,
georg

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Re: [ccp4bb] How to create TLS file

2008-05-07 Thread Georg Zocher

U Sam schrieb:

Suggestion please. How TLS file is created to be used in Refmac refinement.
Thanks. Sam
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I recommend to use the TLSMD-server (J Painter & E A Merritt (2006) Acta 
Cryst. D62, 439-450)

http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/~tlsmd/

best regards,
georg

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[ccp4bb] How to create TLS file

2008-05-07 Thread U Sam
Suggestion please. How TLS file is created to be used in Refmac refinement.
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Re: [ccp4bb] scala on mac osx - off topic, really

2008-05-07 Thread William Scott

On May 7, 2008, at 5:57 AM, Chris Richardson wrote:

I tried another tack.  I edited the ccp4.info file (in /sw/fink/10.4/ 
unstable/main/finkinfo/sci) to download the scala_3.2.34 source code  
and unpack it over the top of the rest of the source.  I'm fairly  
sure that you're *not* supposed to do it this way, but it worked and  
I haven't had any complaints that the newer version of scala is  
broken.



There is no reason why that approach shouldn't work, but it might be  
cleaner to incorporate the differences as a patch.  Just to be clear,  
CCP4 has no association with or official recognition even of what is  
in fink.  It is just something I did, so please complain to me, not  
them.  It is not their fault.


I'll try to reconstruct what you did and update the fink package.

gcc4.0 is a placeholder package in fink that designates the apple  
compiler has been installed


gcc42 is a real package, and it contains, among other things,  gfortran.

gcc43  replaces gcc42.  The two sets of shared libraries can coexist,  
but I updated all of my fortran-dependent packages (including ccp4) to  
use gcc43


[ccp4bb] Off Topic - Problems with Taylor Wharton CX-100 series dry shippers

2008-05-07 Thread John Rose

Hi,

Based on SER-CAT user input we are trying to assess the meantime  
between failure for the Taylor Wharton CX-100 series dry shipper.


If you have experienced problems with the Taylor Wharton CX-100 dry  
shippers where crystals have been lost we ask you please complete the  
following survey.


Please return the survey to me at the address below.  I will then  
compile and post the results


Thanks,

John
>
Name:

Institution:

Number of Taylor Wharton CX-100 series dry shippers which have failed:

Dry shipper model(s):

Approximate date of failure(s) from date of purchase:

Approximate number of roundtrip shipments to/from beamline at time of  
failure:


Dry shipper contents samples in canes or samples in pucks:

Shipping container (hard shell shipping case or other):

Courier service used:

Comments if any:




>
John Rose Ph.D.
Assistant Director SER-CAT
B204B, The Fred C. Davison Life Sciences Complex
120 Green Street
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602-7229
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Fax:  706-542-3077


[ccp4bb] ad for POSTDOCTORAL POSITION IN STRUCTURAL BIOLOGY

2008-05-07 Thread Barbara Gerratana

To whom it may concern,
Can you please post the ad shown her? Thanks

POSTDOCTORAL POSITION IN STRUCTURAL BIOLOGY

Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
University of Maryland, College Park

We are seeking outstanding postdoctoral candidates holding a Ph. D. with 
a background in protein crystallography with related publication 
history. Additional experience in enzymology will be valuable. 
Additional qualifications are ability to collaborate closely with others 
and also to work independently, effective oral and written 
communications including maintenance of clear, accurate and complete lab 
work records. This position will be part of a collaborative effort 
between the laboratories of Profs. Barbara Gerratana and Nicole LaRonde 
LeBlanc. The overall study will consist of a multidisciplinary approach 
involving crystallography and enzymology. Start date is June 1, 2008 or 
as soon thereafter as possible. The initial period of employment is for 
one year starting as soon as possible with renewal for one to two years 
possible thereafter. Send curriculum vitae and names of three references 
to: *Dr. Barbara Gerratana, Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry, 
University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742 or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
*/“EOE/AA”



Barbara Gerratana
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University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742
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Re: [ccp4bb] scala on mac osx - off topic, really

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Richardson

On 7 May 2008, at 13:32, Andreas Förster wrote:

a colleague is running ccp4 6.0.2 on a MacBook with Timid Tiger.  
Built-in Scala is 3.2.25.  Because of a bug, he wants to upgrade  
Scala.  Running Scala 3.3.2-beta5 or 3.2.34 (phil's binaries) fails  
because gcc shared libraries are missing.


I ran into exactly the same problem.  After wasting plenty of time  
trying to to get gcc4.0 and gcc43 to coexist happily, I tried another  
tack.  I edited the ccp4.info file (in /sw/fink/10.4/unstable/main/ 
finkinfo/sci) to download the scala_3.2.34 source code and unpack it  
over the top of the rest of the source.  I'm fairly sure that you're  
*not* supposed to do it this way, but it worked and I haven't had any  
complaints that the newer version of scala is broken.


If you'd like me to send you the edited ccp4.info file or executable,  
I'd be happy to do so. I don't want to put them on ccp4, because  
they're so bodged that they'll probably cause more harm than good in  
the wild.


Regards,

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[ccp4bb] scala on mac osx - off topic, really

2008-05-07 Thread Andreas Förster

Hey all,

a colleague is running ccp4 6.0.2 on a MacBook with Timid Tiger. 
Built-in Scala is 3.2.25.  Because of a bug, he wants to upgrade Scala. 
 Running Scala 3.3.2-beta5 or 3.2.34 (phil's binaries) fails because 
gcc shared libraries are missing.  Here's the setup:


[dyn1208-14:ttgt/TT/process] duolu% fink list gcc
Information about 2696 packages read in 3 seconds.
 avr-gcc  4.2.0-1   GNU GCC for 
ATMEL AVR micro controllers
 broken-gcc   3.3-1 [virtual 
package representing a broken gcc compiler]
 gcc2 2.95.2-0  [virtual 
package representing the gcc 2.95.2 compiler]
 gcc2.95  2.95.2-0  [virtual 
package representing the gcc 2.95.2 compiler]
 gcc3.1   3.1-0 [virtual 
package representing the gcc 3.1 compiler]
 i   gcc3.3   3.3-1819  [virtual 
package representing the gcc 3.3 compiler]
 i   gcc4.0   4.0.1-5250[virtual 
package representing the gcc 4.0.1 compiler]
 gcc424.2.2-1000GNU Compiler 
Collection Version 4.2
 gcc42-shlibs 4.2.2-1000Shared 
libraries for gcc4


Fink is fully up to date.  As you can see, gcc4.0 and gcc3.3 are 
installed, but not gcc42 or gcc42-shlibs.  Installation of gcc42-shlibs 
fails:


[dyn1208-14:ttgt/TT/process] duolu% fink install gcc42-shlibs
Password:
Information about 2696 packages read in 0 seconds.
Can't resolve dependency "cctools (>= 622-1)" for package 
"gcc42-4.2.2-1000" (no matching packages/versions found)

Exiting with failure.

cctools are installed in version 590 and are not upgraded further.  What 
looked like an alternative to me, odcctools version 622, does not 
fulfill gcc42's requirements.


[dyn1208-14:ttgt/TT/process] duolu% fink list cctools
Information about 2696 packages read in 0 seconds.
 i   cctools  590-1 [virtual 
package representing the developer tools]
 i   cctools-extra1:590.18-1002 Extra software 
from cctools
 i   cctools-single-module590-1 [virtual 
package, your dev tools support -single_module]
 i   odcctools622.3-20060925Darwin cctools 
build system/code base to support gcc4
 odcctools590 20060608-1Darwin cctools 
build system/code base to support g95


My questions are:  Short of upgrading to Lazy Leopard, how do I get 
gcc42 and gcc42-shlibs installed on my colleague's laptop?  Why are 
there no gcc4.0-shlibs?  Why are different versions of gcc installed? 
Could I safely remove gcc3.3?  On my own MacBook Pro (running Lazy 
Leopard) gcc4.0, gcc43 and gcc43-shlibs are installed, and I can see 
that gcc4-shlibs exist, but my colleague's fink doesn't see them.


It's all mighty confusing to me.  From the dark ages I dimly remember 
similar nightmares during a major gcc version change on linux.  Are the 
reported problems somehow related to that?



Thanks.


Andreas