[ccp4bb]

2009-08-10 Thread Guenter Fritz

Hi Sajid,
the NADP /NAD binding sites are often composed of two sites: one site 
that is specific for the adenine/adenosine moiety and another site for 
the nicotinamide moiety. It can happen that you see the adenine in the 
density  but not the nictoninamid tangling around.

HTH Guenter



I have used NADP in my crystallisation condition; and the crystal diffracted 
well; I built the model completely and the r-factor and r-free are 0.26 and 
0.29 respectively. The resolution is 2.3A. I am looking for NADP, in the 
binding region; I could see some density for NADP; But it is not continuous; 
there is no density for the middle phosphate group in fo-fc as well as 2fo-fc. 
Is it possible that NADP could hydrolyse? if so what could be the hydrolysed 
product


thank you

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[ccp4bb] PhD fellowship in structure determination of cys-loop receptors at University of Copenhagen

2009-08-10 Thread Michael Gajhede
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Re: [ccp4bb] pseudo-translational symmetry

2009-08-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
First - there doesnt seem much to worry about. The Rs will be higher 
than usual when you have a strong pseudo-translation vector. There are 
many weak observations for the h k l=2n+1 reflections.


But in cases like this is is very helpful to force the same indexing on 
all your different data sets so you can compare results easily:


If your original structure has cell

(a2= 47.3, b2=58.9, c2=67.6) and angles (alpha2=90, beta2=99.2, gamma2=90)

and the second cell is 
(a1=67.5, b1=58.8, c1=98.9) and angles (alpha1=90, beta1=101.5, gamma1=90)


with a pseudo translation of 0 0 0.5, then they are pretty obviously related.
I would force my second cell to be 
98.9  58.8   67.5 (alpha1=90, beta1=101.5, gamma1=90) by reindexing l h -k 
then you can just use the coordinate solution from the first cell plus a translated molecule.


Ditto when processing in P1 make sure the cell is 
98.9  58.8   67.5 89.9 101.5 89.9 and generate the 8 molecules 

Twinning checks can be misled when you have assigned the lower symmetry spacegroup - ie sent it P1 data instead of P21. 
And similarly they are less reliable when you have a strong pseudo-translation vector. 


Eleanor





Hi all,

I am trying to refine a structure to about 2.0A.  Indexing in HKL2000 indicates 
the protein crystallized in P2 with unit cell lengths (a1=67.5, b1=58.8, 
c1=98.9) and angles (alpha1=90, beta1=101.5, gamma1=90).  Molecular replacement 
with Phaser yields a solution in P1 21 1 with four molecules in the AU.  
Successive rounds of refinement lead to good quality maps with chemically 
appropriate packing of symmetry-related molecules.  However, TLS and restrained 
refinement lead to continuing drops of Rfactor (around 20%, depending on 
weighting) but the stalling of Rfree around 27%.

When the dataset is processed in P1, the unit cell has the dimensions (a=58.7, 
b=67.4, c=98.9, alpha=78.5, beta=89.9, gamma=89.9) and Phaser finds 8 molecules 
in the AU.  Structure refinement for this scenario is ongoing, and it has yet 
to be seen whether this leads to improvement of the statistical parameters.

I have solved other structures of this protein in complex with different 
substrates.  One such structure was successfully solved in P1 21 1 with two 
molecules in the AU with the unit cell lengths (a2= 47.3, b2=58.9, c2=67.6) and 
angles (alpha2=90, beta2=99.2, gamma2=90).  Interestingly, these dimensions are 
highly similar to those of current structure, although a1 is equivalent to c2, 
and c1 is nearly double a2.

I have run phenix.xtriage on the P2 scaled data, and the Patterson Analysis 
indicates that translational-pseudosymmetry is a posibility in my case.  
Alternatively, phenix.xtriage on the same dataset processed in P1 indicates the 
same translational-pseudosymmetry, but also suggests the presence of a 
pseudomerohedral twin.  I am not sure if this twin simply relates the dataset 
to the higher symmetry P2 group.  The sections of both log files pertaining to 
these analyses are copied below- sorry for all the text!

At this stage, I am wondering what the next steps.  Specificity, is this data 
suspicious for having pseudotranslational symmetry or twinning?  If so, what 
should be my next steps to troubleshoot this problem? Any suggestions would be 
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Keith

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P2 PROCESSED DATA


Patterson analyses: 
--


 Largest Patterson peak with length larger than 15 Angstrom

 Frac. coord.:0.0000.0000.500
 Distance to origin  :   49.477
 Height (origin=100) :   42.327
 p_value(height) :2.073e-04


   The reported p_value has the following meaning:
 The probability that a peak of the specified height
 or larger is found in a Patterson function of a
 macro molecule that does not have any translational
 pseudo symmetry is equal to  2.073e-04.
 p_values smaller than 0.05 might indicate
 weak translational pseudo symmetry, or the self vector of
 a large anomalous scatterer such as Hg, whereas values
 smaller than 1e-3 are a very strong indication for
 the presence of translational pseudo symmetry.



The full list of Patterson peaks is:

  x  y  zheight   p-value(height)
( 0.000, 0.000, 0.500 ) :   42.327   (2.073e-04)
( 0.111, 0.000,-0.476 ) :8.908   (2.385e-01)

 If the observed pseudo translationals are crystallographic
 the following spacegroups and unit cells are possible:

 space groupoperator unit cell of reference setting
   P 1 21 1 (a,b,2*c)   x, y, z+1/2  (67.48, 58.78, 49.48,  90.00, 
101.49, 90.00)

___

P1 PROCESSED DATA

####
##   Twinning Analyses##
####




Re: [ccp4bb] pseudo-translational symmetry

2009-08-10 Thread alebus
Just a small comment on Eleanor's instructive advices :

 ...
 If your original structure has cell

 (a2= 47.3, b2=58.9, c2=67.6) and angles (alpha2=90, beta2=99.2, gamma2=90)

  and the second cell is
 (a1=67.5, b1=58.8, c1=98.9) and angles (alpha1=90, beta1=101.5, gamma1=90)
 ...
 I would force my second cell to be
  98.9  58.8   67.5 (alpha1=90, beta1=101.5, gamma1=90) by reindexing l h -k

I guess the proper reindexing would be l k -h, wouldn't it?
(l h -k would not really do what you want AND it would also change the
reference system to a left-handed one...)

Cheers,
Alejandro




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Re: [ccp4bb] pseudo-translational symmetry

2009-08-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson

Oops - sorry to mislead you.
Yes - you are absolutely right..
Eleanor


ale...@pasteur.fr wrote:

Just a small comment on Eleanor's instructive advices :

  

...
If your original structure has cell

(a2= 47.3, b2=58.9, c2=67.6) and angles (alpha2=90, beta2=99.2, gamma2=90)

 and the second cell is
(a1=67.5, b1=58.8, c1=98.9) and angles (alpha1=90, beta1=101.5, gamma1=90)
...
I would force my second cell to be
 98.9  58.8   67.5 (alpha1=90, beta1=101.5, gamma1=90) by reindexing l h -k



I guess the proper reindexing would be l k -h, wouldn't it?
(l h -k would not really do what you want AND it would also change the
reference system to a left-handed one...)

Cheers,
Alejandro




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Institut Pasteur de Montevideo
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[ccp4bb] alternative graphics programs for OS X--summary

2009-08-10 Thread Patrick Loll

Hi,

Thanks to the many replies to my queries about cheap/easy alternatives  
to Photoshop and CorelDraw on OS X. In a rare display of unanimity,  
the bulletin board spoke with essentially one voice:


ALTERNATIVE TO PHOTOSHOP:   

Gimp  (not gimpshop)
http://www.gimp.org/

As one sage respondent said, Gimp is no less intuitive than  
Photoshop.  I could certainly easily figure out how to do the types  
of trivial manipulations for which I previously used Photoshop; power  
users may have a different experience.


ALTERNATIVE TO CORELDRAW/ILLUSTRATOR:

Inkscape
http://www.inkscape.org/

Again, straightforward to use, and I sense that I will find it a  
completely satisfactory replacement for CorelDraw (if only it could  
read .cdr files, sigh).


Notes:

1.  At least one of these programs requires updating the version of  
X11 that comes with 10.5 (e.g., XQuartz 2.3 something, http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki) 
. If you are using crystallographic software you've probably already  
done this.


2.  One kind soul pointed out that I already have GraphicConvertor  
installed as part of the OS, and this program can do simple  
manipulations (brightness, contrast, cropping, etc.).  Hidden in plain  
sight.


3.  There was one vote (out of dozens total) for ImageMagick, but as  
far as I know this is command line only. It also occurs to me that  
ImageJ would do at least some of the simple things that I need (e.g.,   
getting an image of a gel ready for publication).


4.  There was one vote for OmniGraffle (but this is commercial, and  
costs a few dollars).


Thanks again. The ccp4bb rules.

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Re: [ccp4bb] Electron Density Maps

2009-08-10 Thread Folmer Fredslund
Dear Pascal,

2009/8/10 Pascal Egea pas...@msg.ucsf.edu:
 Dear All,
 I am currently carrying the refinement of a structure and comparing the
 results obtained in Refmac, Phenix and CNS.
 While Phenix and Refmac write maps and their corresponding coefficients in
 mtz format allowing display of 2Fo-Fc and Fo-Fc maps in COOT, the
 corresponding Fo-Fc map as written by CNS does not show positive and
 negatives peaks. There is density but it does not look like why I would
 expect for a Fo-Fc map. Why is that?

Is your map read as an Fo-Fc map? I guess not...

I believe there is a way to tell COOT that you want to load you CNS
map as a difference map.
This section
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~emsley/coot/doc/chapters/user-manual_6.html#SEC160
of the user manual might explain better.


Hope this helps,
Folmer Fredslund


Re: [ccp4bb] Electron Density Maps

2009-08-10 Thread Kevin Cowtan
If you want to display CNS maps in Coot and have them on the right 
scale, then you need to do one of two things. Either:


1. Don't use the map file, use the reflection file containing the map 
coefficients, or


2. Change the setting in CNS which controls the extent of the output 
map. Instead of outputting a map covering a single molecule, you need to 
output a map covering a whole asymmetric unit (or if you prefer a whole 
unit cell).


The Xplor maps output by CNS are output in O mode, not Coot mode, by 
default. This is due to a fundamental difference in understanding what a 
map is between programs which work crystal space (e.g. Coot, Quanta, 
XtalView) and those which don't.


Kevin


Pascal Egea wrote:

Dear All,

I am currently carrying the refinement of a structure and comparing the 
results obtained in Refmac, Phenix and CNS.


While Phenix and Refmac write maps and their corresponding coefficients 
in mtz format allowing display of 2Fo-Fc and Fo-Fc maps in COOT, the 
corresponding Fo-Fc map as written by CNS does not show positive and 
negatives peaks. There is density but it does not look like why I would 
expect for a Fo-Fc map. Why is that? 

I am also surprised by the differences between maps and their contouring 
levels between Refmac/Phenix and CNS. Is the way to scale ED maps 
different between those programs? Can differences in the way to perform 
bulk solvent correction account for those differences?


Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


Pascal Egea


[ccp4bb] calculation of radii

2009-08-10 Thread ashok kumar
 Dear all

i want to know how can i calculate the alpha helical radii of 3-D
structure of a protein. Is there any programme to calculate the radii of
alpha helix.


Re: [ccp4bb] How to model apo protein structure from solved ligand bound high resolution structure?

2009-08-10 Thread Satheesh Kumar Palani Nathan

Hi Donghui,
 

It’s going to be tricky. Perhaps, you can predict some local rotamer variations 
around the ligand interacting regions. Predicting the global changes is 
difficult, particularly if you are anticipating a big conformational change.  
For example, in one of our structure, the active site of the unliganded protein 
is in an open conformation and adopted closed conformation upon ligand binding 
(JBC, Vol. 282,  27334-27342). You can find many such examples in the 
literature, including the text book example of cAMP receptor protein. 

 

I would try to crystallize the apo form. If this is not possible, you can try 
studying the dynamics by solution studies or through molecular dynamics 
simulation (http://ambermd.org/).

 

All the best

 

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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:42 +0800
From: wdh0...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] How to model apo protein structure from solved ligand 
bound high resolution structure?
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


More information about the two ligand bound structures, each protein is 
composed of two globular domains, between the two globular domains, there lies 
a deep cleft and ligand sits or buried there comfortably. These two domains are 
connected by a hinge region, here we want to model how this hinge region moves 
upon ligand binding. Any recommendation for any program which can do this task 
well. Thanks ahead.
 
Donghui


On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 8:37 PM, wu donghui wdh0...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear CCP4ers, 


Recently we have solved two structures from E.coli in high resolution, which 
have bound two different ligands tightly already. Here I want to know if there 
is any program which can let us model the structure of our apo proteins 
confidently. Thanks ahead for any comment and input.


Regards,


Donghui

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[ccp4bb] Heavy atom searching with disulfides

2009-08-10 Thread Francis E Reyes

Hi all

Has there been any work/reports of using disulfide restraints (number  
of heavy atoms as well as distance) for heavy atom searching/scoring  
for anomalous sulfur phasing?


What resolution range would this be most effective?

Thanks

FR


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Re: [ccp4bb] Heavy atom searching with disulfides

2009-08-10 Thread George M. Sheldrick
The paper Acta Cryst. D59 (2003) 2125-2132 discusses searching for 
disulfides. In general this works for data truncated for phasing to
between 2.1 and 2.9 A. If the resoltuions is higher than 2.1, you
can search for individual sulfurs, if it is worse than 2.9 even 
fitting them as disulfides is unreliable and they have to be
treated as 'super-sulfurs'. The main advantage of incorporating
disulfides in this resolution range is that the resulting 
experimental phases extend better to higher resolution.

George

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Fax. +49-551-39-22582


On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Francis E Reyes wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Has there been any work/reports of using disulfide restraints (number of heavy
 atoms as well as distance) for heavy atom searching/scoring for anomalous
 sulfur phasing?
 
 What resolution range would this be most effective?
 
 Thanks
 
 FR
 
 
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 215 UCB
 University of Colorado at Boulder
 
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[ccp4bb] Pictures of DDM crystals?

2009-08-10 Thread Joe
Hi all,


I am doing initial crystallization screening for a membrane protein purified
in DDM.  The actual concentration of DDM in the protein solution is  2 CMC
after the protein concentration step (Amicon MWCO 50 kD used).  I just found
over 50 conditions out of 1000 give me crystals.  Having worked on soluble
proteins, frankly they all look ugly to me to different degrees.  I have
selected a few conditions to go after, hoping that they will grow big enough
for me to verify the crystal identity by gels.  I wonder if there is a quick
way to tell if they are detergent crystals.  I know a microscope with UV
capacity would do the job, but we probably will not get one very soon.  I
have read through all threads on CCP4BBS regarding detergent crystals.  I
have an impression that it is actually not easy to crystallize
detergents--please correct me if I am wrong.  Your thoughts and comments are
helpful.

Thank you for your attention.

-- 
Best regards,

Joe


[ccp4bb] Disulfide bond survival in the presence of DTT?

2009-08-10 Thread Brad Bennett
Hi all-
Got a perplexing thiol chemistry/phasing issue. To prevent non-native
disulfide bonds from forming between free Cys but to preserve native
disulfides, I have heard of using a very low (say  0.5 mM) concentration of
DTT. I've recently come across a paper where the assignment of 3 disulfides
in a protein structure was carried out by calculating a 4A resolution
anomalous difference map (detecting the sulfur anomalous signal with 1.7A
x-rays).  However, at every step in the protein prep and in the
crystallization solution, there exists mM concentrations of DTT. Every
protein is different, so the microenvironment and the protection of a
disulfide will be different for every one you come across. But I am
surprised that a disulfide can withstand that much DTT. I guess the proof
is in the pudding, which would be the anomalous peaks observed in the maps.
What is the upper limit on DTT (or B-ME or TCEP) concentration that people
have used and still maintained native disulfides?

Thanks-
Brad


[ccp4bb] DNA binding protein

2009-08-10 Thread Neeraj

Hi all,
I had a simple question about DNA binding protein. Is there an 
easy way to detect if your heterologously expressed protein is bound to 
DNA post purification. Also is there an easy way to strip the protein of 
DNA without any damage done to the protein in doing so. I would 
appreciate if someone can provide any valuable tips for the same.


thanks,
Neeraj

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[ccp4bb] hardware stereo in Coot on Mac

2009-08-10 Thread David Bruce McKay
Two questions RE hardware (dual images on CRT monitor, 3-D with stereo  
glasses) stereo on a Macintosh.


1  We have a configuration:

Mac dual Intel processors OS 10.4.11
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 graphics card
X11 version 1.1.3

It runs hardware stereo in O and Pymol , which don't require an X- 
window terminal, and will do side-by-side stereo in Coot run from an  
X11 window, but when we try to do hardware stereo, we get message,  
This computer appears not to be able to do hardware stereo.  This  
must have a simple fix, but I haven't found it.


2.  Is there a combination of Mac OS 10.5.x and Xquartz 2.x.x that  
does hardware stereo reliably?





Dave McKay
Department of Chemistry  Biochemistry
University of Colorado, Boulder


Re: [ccp4bb] DNA binding protein

2009-08-10 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Neeraj,
An absorption spectra between 220 and 400 nm (for example) should show you
if there is DNA coming along with your protein. In theory A280 is about 1.7
times A260 for a pure protein sample. This is a rough estimate. If your peak
is shifted towards 260 instead of 280 then you can suspect the presence of
contaminating DNA or RNA.

As to get rid of the DNA, I can suggest several ways to do it.
1-An heparin affinity column could out-compete your contaminating DNA while
binding your protein. They work really well.

2-Ion exchange is worth trying. It has worked for me with an extremely basic
archeal RNA binding protein purified in E.coli and bringing along some
endogenous RNA/DNA. An ion exchange ( Mono-S type) got rid of the
contaminating nucleic acid, however with some loss of protein.

3-DNAse treatment may be worth trying but the presence of traces of DNase
may be a problem with subsequent crystallization trials in presence of the
bona-fide target DNA sequence.

4-Precipitation of the DNA with streptomycine sulfate. You could also loss
some protein.

 1 and 2 are in my opinion the less invasive soutions.

Hope this helps.

Best regards

Pascal Egea


Re: [ccp4bb] Pictures of DDM crystals?

2009-08-10 Thread Joe
I forgot the mention this:  does anyone happen to have some pictures of DDM
crystals?  It would be very very helpful for me to take a look and get a
sense how they look like.  I appreciate your inputs and help.

Thanks,

Joe

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Joe gch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,


 I am doing initial crystallization screening for a membrane protein
 purified in DDM.  The actual concentration of DDM in the protein solution is
  2 CMC after the protein concentration step (Amicon MWCO 50 kD used).  I
 just found over 50 conditions out of 1000 give me crystals.  Having worked
 on soluble proteins, frankly they all look ugly to me to different degrees.
 I have selected a few conditions to go after, hoping that they will grow big
 enough for me to verify the crystal identity by gels.  I wonder if there is
 a quick way to tell if they are detergent crystals.  I know a microscope
 with UV capacity would do the job, but we probably will not get one very
 soon.  I have read through all threads on CCP4BBS regarding detergent
 crystals.  I have an impression that it is actually not easy to crystallize
 detergents--please correct me if I am wrong.  Your thoughts and comments are
 helpful.

 Thank you for your attention.

 --
 Best regards,

 Joe




-- 
Best regards,

Joe


Re: [ccp4bb] DNA binding protein

2009-08-10 Thread Dima Klenchin
I had a simple question about DNA binding protein. Is there an 
easy way to detect if your heterologously expressed protein is bound to 
DNA post purification.


Yes. UV absorbance. DNA absorbs UV strongly, proteins do not. DNA absorbs 
260 more thn 280, the opposite is true for proteins. In fact, it's always a 
good idea to check 260/280 ratio because quite frequently even non-DNA 
binding proteins purified by a single tag affinity chromatography contain 
enough DNA to skew estimation of protein concentration from 280 nm 
absorbance by several fold (9X in one case of my personal experience).


Also is there an easy way to strip the protein of DNA without any damage 
done to the protein in doing so.


No generic solution. Greatly depends on the protein and its properties.

Dima


Re: [ccp4bb] DNA binding protein

2009-08-10 Thread Chun Luo
TurboNuclease digests DNA and RNA to 1-4 base long fragments. It's very
useful to remove nucleic acids during protein purification and virus
purification. Another benefit of using TurboNuclease at cell lysis is to
significantly reduce lysate viscosity. So it reduces the lysate volume for
column loading. We can make a lysate of only 1L for 300 grams of insect
cells and load a Ni column without back pressure problem. We can use lower
g-force for lysate clearing. We got much lower 260 reading in the Ni pool as
well. 

 

The specific activity of TurboNuclease (~1.3 units per ng) is thousands of
fold higher than DNaseI. So the minute quantity of TurboNuclease used has no
interference with down stream applications. Crystals of many proteins have
been obtained when the cells were lyzed with TurboNuclease, a few without
using affinity purification. TurboNuclease is protease-free and
endotoxin-free.

 

--Chun

 

Competing Interests Statement

Accelagen is the maker of TurboNuclease.

 

 

 

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pascal
Egea
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:00 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] DNA binding protein

 

Hi Neeraj,

 

An absorption spectra between 220 and 400 nm (for example) should show you
if there is DNA coming along with your protein. In theory A280 is about 1.7
times A260 for a pure protein sample. This is a rough estimate. If your peak
is shifted towards 260 instead of 280 then you can suspect the presence of
contaminating DNA or RNA.

 

As to get rid of the DNA, I can suggest several ways to do it.

1-An heparin affinity column could out-compete your contaminating DNA while
binding your protein. They work really well.

 

2-Ion exchange is worth trying. It has worked for me with an extremely basic
archeal RNA binding protein purified in E.coli and bringing along some
endogenous RNA/DNA. An ion exchange ( Mono-S type) got rid of the
contaminating nucleic acid, however with some loss of protein. 

 

3-DNAse treatment may be worth trying but the presence of traces of DNase
may be a problem with subsequent crystallization trials in presence of the
bona-fide target DNA sequence.

 

4-Precipitation of the DNA with streptomycine sulfate. You could also loss
some protein. 

 

 1 and 2 are in my opinion the less invasive soutions. 

 

Hope this helps.


Best regards

 

Pascal Egea

 

 



Re: [ccp4bb] DNA binding protein

2009-08-10 Thread Miles Pufall
I'd agree with Pascal as well, and can add that if you have a protein  
for which you use an affinity tag, often high salt (500mM) will strip  
the DNA off your protein, and might even keep it stable.


Cheers -

Miles

On Aug 10, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Pascal Egea wrote:


Hi Neeraj,

An absorption spectra between 220 and 400 nm (for example) should  
show you if there is DNA coming along with your protein. In theory  
A280 is about 1.7 times A260 for a pure protein sample. This is a  
rough estimate. If your peak is shifted towards 260 instead of 280  
then you can suspect the presence of contaminating DNA or RNA.


As to get rid of the DNA, I can suggest several ways to do it.
1-An heparin affinity column could out-compete your contaminating  
DNA while binding your protein. They work really well.


2-Ion exchange is worth trying. It has worked for me with an  
extremely basic archeal RNA binding protein purified in E.coli and  
bringing along some endogenous RNA/DNA. An ion exchange ( Mono-S  
type) got rid of the contaminating nucleic acid, however with some  
loss of protein.


3-DNAse treatment may be worth trying but the presence of traces of  
DNase may be a problem with subsequent crystallization trials in  
presence of the bona-fide target DNA sequence.


4-Precipitation of the DNA with streptomycine sulfate. You could  
also loss some protein.


 1 and 2 are in my opinion the less invasive soutions.

Hope this helps.

Best regards

Pascal Egea




Miles Pufall
Postdoctoral Scholar
Yamamoto Lab
UC San Francisco
Cellular and Molecular Pharmacology
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600 16th Street, Genentech Hall S-574
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[ccp4bb] DS Visualizer ActiveX Control in PowerPoint

2009-08-10 Thread Yong-Fu Li
Hi,
This is non-CCP4 related question, I apologize to those who are not
interested. But I hope there might be someone over there with a good
answer.

Program: Accelry DS Visualizer 2.0 (Free ware). It has some interesting
features.

My intention: Create an image from pdb files and save as .msv file. Then in
PowerPoint this file can be inserted via an ActiveX Control window.

In 2003 version it works this way:

(1) Open ppt, then bring in “Visual Basic” and “Control Toolbox” panel.

(2) Click “More Controls” in “Control Toolbox” penal, then select “Accelrys
DSVisualizer ControlR1”

(3) The cursor becomes cross then makes a window in ppt slide.

(4) Switch ppt to “Full Screen” then right-click on black window to import
molecule file.

(5) Now you can manipulate the molecule as in DS Visualizer when ppt is in
“Full Screen”

However, in 2007 version the layout is different and the Visual Basic and
Control ToolBox exist in the Developer menu. I could not locate the Accelrys
DSVisualizer ControlR1. Instead there are entries such as DSDisplayPanel
Class and DSStatusBar Class. Choosing either one and trying to draw a
window will give the same error: Could not access system registry.

I also posted a similar question to the Accelrys forum but no reply yet.

Thanks in advance.

Yong-Fu Li
IAVI, Brooklyn, NY


Re: [ccp4bb] DS Visualizer ActiveX Control in PowerPoint

2009-08-10 Thread Warren DeLano
Yong-Fu,

 

Microsoft in its infinite wisdom decided to bury ActiveX functionality
in Office 2007.  To access Controls, you need to click on the big round
button in the upper-left, select PowerPoint Options, choose then
Popular tab and then check the Show Developer tab in the Ribbon
option.  The Developer tab will give you access to the Control Toolbox.

 

Cheers,

Warren

 

(PS. For a similar free and unsupported control for PyMOL Sessions, see
http://delsci.com/axpymol/ )

 



From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
Yong-Fu Li
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:18 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] DS Visualizer ActiveX Control in PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

This is non-CCP4 related question, I apologize to those who are not
interested. But I hope there might be someone over there with a good
answer. 

 

Program: Accelry DS Visualizer 2.0 (Free ware). It has some interesting
features.

 

My intention: Create an image from pdb files and save as .msv file. Then
in PowerPoint this file can be inserted via an ActiveX Control window. 

 

In 2003 version it works this way: 

(1) Open ppt, then bring in Visual Basic and Control Toolbox panel.

(2) Click More Controls in Control Toolbox penal, then select
Accelrys DSVisualizer ControlR1

(3) The cursor becomes cross then makes a window in ppt slide.

(4) Switch ppt to Full Screen then right-click on black window to
import molecule file.

(5) Now you can manipulate the molecule as in DS Visualizer when ppt is
in Full Screen

However, in 2007 version the layout is different and the Visual Basic
and Control ToolBox exist in the Developer menu. I could not locate the
Accelrys DSVisualizer ControlR1. Instead there are entries such as
DSDisplayPanel Class and DSStatusBar Class. Choosing either one and
trying to draw a window will give the same error: Could not access
system registry.

I also posted a similar question to the Accelrys forum but no reply yet.

Thanks in advance.


Yong-Fu Li
IAVI, Brooklyn, NY



Re: [ccp4bb] Disulfide bond survival in the presence of DTT?

2009-08-10 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hi,

 

I am sorry that I cannot recall the highest concentration of DTT that I ever
used (inadvertently) when working with disulphide-containing proteins.
However I have the following mildly useful suggestion:

 

If you have properly formed -S-S- as well as a bunch of free -SH perhaps a
safer strategy is to modify the available -SH with something - it could be a
reversible protective group or a permanent one such as iodiacetamide. This
way you avoid playing with -S-S- shuffling entirely. Notably, this will
reduce your chances of obaining a derivative since protected -SR are much
less likely to react with heavy atom agents.

 

As a useful bonus, if you modify the SH with e.g. iodoacetamide, then run MS
on the intact protein - you will find out how many -SH remain unmodified.
Among those, some are in -S-S- bonds and some are buried and therefore
inaccessible to the reagent. By repeating iodoacetamide treatment
post-reduction or on an unfolded sample you can further figure out the
pattern.

 

Good luck,

 

Artem

 

Nothing is built on stone; all is built on sand, but we must build as if
the sand were stone 

 Jorge Luis Borges

 

  _  

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Brad
Bennett
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:06 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Disulfide bond survival in the presence of DTT?

 

Hi all-
Got a perplexing thiol chemistry/phasing issue. To prevent non-native
disulfide bonds from forming between free Cys but to preserve native
disulfides, I have heard of using a very low (say  0.5 mM) concentration of
DTT. I've recently come across a paper where the assignment of 3 disulfides
in a protein structure was carried out by calculating a 4A resolution
anomalous difference map (detecting the sulfur anomalous signal with 1.7A
x-rays).  However, at every step in the protein prep and in the
crystallization solution, there exists mM concentrations of DTT. Every
protein is different, so the microenvironment and the protection of a
disulfide will be different for every one you come across. But I am
surprised that a disulfide can withstand that much DTT. I guess the proof
is in the pudding, which would be the anomalous peaks observed in the maps.
What is the upper limit on DTT (or B-ME or TCEP) concentration that people
have used and still maintained native disulfides?

Thanks-
Brad



[ccp4bb] {Spam?} quick purification?

2009-08-10 Thread Mark Collins

Hi All

A little off topic, but I am thinking about expressing and purifying 40+ 
mutants, for an assay, at maybe 1mg total protein each.  I'd like the 
purification to be quick and easy (ie. one step) but cleaner than just a 
6his-tag purification.


Currently, my options are either GST, a longer his tag or a strep-tag.

Any thoughts on the comparison between GST and strep and Ni purifications 
would be much appreciated.  OR are there any other (better) high affinity 
purifications, I've missed, excluding expense Ab resins.


Thanks,
Mark Collins


Re: [ccp4bb] {Spam?} quick purification?

2009-08-10 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hi,

Since you're considering a serious undertaking, it would be good to know
whether your protein is decently expressed and reasonably characterized in
its native state - before advising you on the process :)

If your protein is normally expressed well, is soluble, and not aggregated -
there's going to be little to no difference between the results of major
methods used for primary affinity capture. If your protein is not very
abundant in the lysate, then higher fidelity methods may give you better
purity - in this case StrepII is somewhat better than GST. You can always
try the good old Biotin tag - this will however require that your E. coli
carry excess of BirA (typically supplied from a separate plasmid) as normal
biotinylation levels in most E. coli strains are fairly low. 

With 40+ mutants you can expect a certain amount of attrition - some of the
mutants will not express well and some will not purify well.

In general there's nothing wrong with single-step IMAC provided that you can
work out reasonable purification conditions in advance and can assume that
most of your 40+ mutants behave reasonably well (and close to the test
case). For outlier mutants there will undoubtedly be issues with
purification however primary capture method is not likely to fix them since
it did not cause them in the first place.

For abundant proteins - if you use a 'high fidelity' IMAC resin such as
His-SELECT or Talon and if your protein of interest is present (in the
lysate) in reasonable quantity then you can expect the purity of your
single-step product to be compatible between GST and IMAC purification.
StrepII tag is of course a good choice as well.

Regards,

Artem

 Nothing is built on stone; all is built on sand, but we must build as if
the sand were stone 
 Jorge Luis Borges
 
-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark
Collins
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:37 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] {Spam?} quick purification?

Hi All

A little off topic, but I am thinking about expressing and purifying 40+ 
mutants, for an assay, at maybe 1mg total protein each.  I'd like the 
purification to be quick and easy (ie. one step) but cleaner than just a 
6his-tag purification.

Currently, my options are either GST, a longer his tag or a strep-tag.

Any thoughts on the comparison between GST and strep and Ni purifications 
would be much appreciated.  OR are there any other (better) high affinity 
purifications, I've missed, excluding expense Ab resins.

Thanks,
Mark Collins