Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: PKa of protein-DNA complex.

2010-08-14 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Yang,
There are several.
I also commend to you:-

Crystallography Reviews, Volume 15, Issue 4 October 2009 , pages 231 - 259
An evaluation review of the prediction of protonation states in
proteins versus crystallographic experiment  Authors: Stuart J.
Fisher; James Wilkinson; Richard H. Henchman; John R. Helliwell
available at:-
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a915050320~tab=content~order=page

Best wishes,
John
Prof John R Helliwell DSc

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:11 PM, yang li robertcatru...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
    Is there any server or program can calculate the theoretic PKa of the 
 protein-DNA complex? Given the structure of the protein and the
 sequence of the DNA. Any suggestion will be appreciated!
 Best
 Yang




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Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb? zero occ

2010-08-14 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I agree that zero occupancy is a bit ugly, but useful when not sure 
whether you will ever see that LYS..


But I dont think it wlll displace bulk solvent - at least not in REFMAC 
where an atom with occ=0.0 will not contribute to the atom map. And I 
expect this is true for all other structure factor calculations using 
various programs..


Eleanor

Ed Pozharski wrote:

On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 08:57 +, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote:

Zero occupancy is generally a deprecated way of dealing with missing
density as it is confusing for less experienced user of the
coordinates. I think zero occupancy can be useful during refinement as
the atoms help fill space (or for  example satisfy NCS restraint
format requirement) but then these atoms can be stripped out before
deposition. They should in any case never be included in B-factor
refinement as they will skew the statistics and possibly the B-factor
restraint model.


Zero occupancy may be a bad idea for yet another reason - the atoms will
displace bulk solvent and produce what is essentially a hole in the
structure.  It may be justified if you are trying to fill the empty
internal cavities, but for atoms missing from density it seems like a
wrong approach.



Re: [ccp4bb] PEG in the pdb? zero occ

2010-08-14 Thread Edwin Pozharski


Perhaps I was confused by the refinement exclude keyword which
 explicitly says that atoms excluded from refinement will contribute to 
the mask calculation.  Thanks for the correction.
 
 I
would still object to the zero-occupancy atoms on semantic grounds. 
Partial occupancy means that an atom spends this fraction of time an this
position.  Zero occupancy thus says that the atom is never near this
particular point in space, which for disordered side chains is likely
untrue.

Cheers,

Ed.
 
 I agree that
zero occupancy is a bit ugly, but useful when not sure
 whether
you will ever see that LYS..
 
 But I dont think it wlll
displace bulk solvent - at least not in REFMAC
 where an atom
with occ=0.0 will not contribute to the atom map. And I
 expect
this is true for all other structure factor calculations using

various programs..
 
 Eleanor
 
 Ed
Pozharski wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 08:57 +, MARTYN
SYMMONS wrote:
 Zero occupancy is generally a deprecated
way of dealing with missing
 density as it is confusing
for less experienced user of the
 coordinates. I think
zero occupancy can be useful during refinement as
 the
atoms help fill space (or for  example satisfy NCS restraint
 format requirement) but then these atoms can be stripped
out before
 deposition. They should in any case never be
included in B-factor
 refinement as they will skew the
statistics and possibly the B-factor
 restraint model.

 Zero occupancy may be a bad idea for yet another
reason - the atoms will
 displace bulk solvent and produce
what is essentially a hole in the
 structure.  It may be
justified if you are trying to fill the empty
 internal
cavities, but for atoms missing from density it seems like a

wrong approach.

 


-- 
Edwin
Pozharski, PhD
University of Maryland, Baltimore


Re: [ccp4bb] what is the scaling factor generally used when calculating R factor?

2010-08-14 Thread Pavel Afonine

 Hi Hailiang,

I posted this several times and here is another one.. The exact formula 
and all the related details are here:


http://cci.lbl.gov/~afonine/FandR/Fmodel_and_Rfactor.pdf

(there is a small typo in the formula found by Lothar, but I leave it 
for you to find -:) )


Also, here is another discussion related to R-factor mismatch that you 
might find helpful:

http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg16463.html

Let me know if you have any questions.

Finally, to answer your question, I would suggest to have a look at:

/J. Appl. Cryst./ (2010). *43*, 669-676

which discusses the observations you have.

Pavel.


On 8/14/10 7:03 PM, Hailiang Zhang wrote:

Hi,

I have a very simple question about the R factor. I was trying to
reproduce the R factor reported in the PDB file. I used phenix.fmodel
incorporating solvent model, anisotropic scaling etc to calculate Fc, but
frequenlty it doesn't match the PDB R factor.

Now I am wondering what is the scaling factor generally used when
calculating R factor? Thanks a lot!

Best Regards, Hailiang