Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic: How to delete loops from a protein

2011-07-19 Thread James Stroud
I've found that predator is one of the best services of this sort:

  Ref: PROTEINS: Structure, Function, and Genetics 27:329–335 (1997)

  Server: http://mobyle.pasteur.fr/cgi-bin/portal.py?#forms::predator

The server is slow but the service is good.

James



On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Francois Berenger wrote:

 Hi Obayed,
 
 If I understood your question well,
 you are looking for something called secondary structure prediction.
 
 I googled these keywords and found this server:
 http://bioinf.cs.ucl.ac.uk/psipred/
 
 You may find other interesting servers on the web and
 some literature comparing them.
 
 I think such methods need only the sequence of your
 protein to predict its secondary structures.
 
 Hope this helps,
 Francois.
 
 On 07/19/2011 02:14 PM, Eric Larson wrote:
 Hi Obayed,
 
 you could give in situ protolysis a try. This is where you add a bit of
 protease along with you target protein to the crystallization drop. It
 has been quite successful for the folks at the SGC. Here are the
 relevant references:
 
 Dong A, et al. In situ proteolysis for protein crystallization and
 structure determination. Nat Methods. 2007 Dec;4(12):1019-21.PMID:
 17982461. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17982461)
 
 Wernimont A, Edwards A. In situ proteolysis to generate crystals for
 structure determination: an update. PLoS One. 2009;4(4):e5094. PMID:
 19352432. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19352432)
 
 good luck,
 
 Eric
 
 
 Eric T. Larson, PhD
 Biomolecular Structure Center
 Department of Biochemistry
 Box 357742
 University of Washington
 Seattle, WA 98195
 
 email: larso...@u.washington.edu
 
 
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Obayed Ullah wrote:
 
 
 Hi all
 
 I wrote last time but got only one feedback. I know some of you guys
 must have this experience that how to delete loops from the
 protein. Please help me with suggestions.
 
 I am working with a human protein which have around 20% sequence
 identity with the other proteins of  the same family. Structure
 of some of the proteins from this family have been solved. All the
 solved structures have around 20% identity with my protein. I
 am trying to crystallize  the protein but it looks like very hard to
 get crystal. I have tried different N and C terminally
 truncated constructs for crystallization but no crystal. My feeling is
 that probably there is some flexible loops with in the
 protein which limiting the crystallization.
 
 So I want to delete the loops with in the protein (not to truncate in
 the terminal, I already have done this). I am not asking
 suggestion about how to delete the loop rather how to decide where the
 loop is. I am not sure how much it will be helpful to get a
 homology model of such a protein having low sequence identity. Is
 there any strategy to decide where the loop could be? Does
 anybody know any established/ rational method to do that.
 
 Waiting for your suggestions
 
 Obayed Ullah
 
 
 
 
 


[ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Weiergräber , Oliver H .
Hello,

version 6.2.0 of ccp4 has strange permissions set to several 
setup/configuration scripts which are read while sourcing ccp4.setup.

For a long time, ccp4 packages have been distributed with some arbitrary file 
and directory ownerships which users are obviously supposed to edit to meet 
their needs. On unix/linux workstations, we usually install under /usr/local 
and change all ownerships to root.root (default practice for third-party 
software).
Up to now, this has not caused any problems.
In version 6.2.0, however, ccp4.setup has permissions rwx r-- --- which makes 
it unreadable (and un-sourcable) for ordinary users! Strangely, 
ccp4-others.setup has the usual permissions rwx r-x r-x (although rw- r-- r-- 
should be sufficient for sourcing).
After rectifying the permissions of ccp4.setup, additional errors appear, 
concerning permissions of several scripts in the xia2 and phaser trees:
ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/setup.csh
ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/xia2core/setup.csh
ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/xia2/setup.csh
ccp4-6.2.0/src/phaser/bin/machine_type
ccp4-6.2.0/src/phaser/conf/version.csh
All these files have the same problematic permissions as ccp4.setup. After 
fixing them, ccp4.setup can be sourced without errors.
The bad thing is that there may be many more issues of this kind, which will 
only surface when trying to run a specific ccp4 program...

Maybe the developers or packagers could comment on this issue. It looks like 
this ccp4 version is supposed to be installed in a user's home directory, so 
that he/she can take ownership of all the files.
While in general there is nothing wrong with this type of installation, it 
should _NOT_ be considered the default on unix-type (i.e. multi-user) operating 
systems.

Best regards,
Oliver



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  ICS-6: Structural Biochemistry
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[ccp4bb] phenix.phaser params.eff labin problems

2011-07-19 Thread G P
Dear all,

I am now writing a script for phenix.phaser.

In the input file params.eff there is a keyword labin which corresponds to
the labels inside input mtz files. The important columns in my ccp4 mtz file
are FP, SIGFP.
I edit the line of labin as:

labin F=FP SIGF=SIGFP

when running the script, it returns me: Syntax error: expected =, found
F (file params.eff, line 9)

So, I changed it like:
labin=FP SIGFP

when running, it gave me the message: Sorry: Couldn't find array FP SIGP in
file

I also tried: labin=FP or labin = FP SIGFP or labin=labin F=FP and so
on. With nothing it can find the right columns.
My mtz file should be no problem. I checked with mtzdmp, the columns FP and
SIGFP were there and with phenix GUI this file works well.

Would someone know exactly how to edit this line in params.eff?

Many thanks!

GP


Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Andreas Förster

Dear Oliver and others,

an alternative way of installing system-wide third party software is 
with a non-root account that is in the same group as all the users.  Use 
that account to install software centrally and initialize in each user's 
.bashrc.  (Root is used only for administrative tasks on the local 
machines and installation of RPMs.)  Users can use all the software but 
have no permission to tinker with it and potentially screw it up.


Still, with this setup, there's a problem with ccp4 6.2.
ccp4-6.2.0/src/phaser/bin/machine_type needs to be made executable for 
the group.



Andreas



On 19/07/2011 11:25, Weiergräber, Oliver H. wrote:

Hello,

version 6.2.0 of ccp4 has strange permissions set to several 
setup/configuration scripts which are read while sourcing ccp4.setup.

For a long time, ccp4 packages have been distributed with some arbitrary file 
and directory ownerships which users are obviously supposed to edit to meet 
their needs. On unix/linux workstations, we usually install under /usr/local 
and change all ownerships to root.root (default practice for third-party 
software).
Up to now, this has not caused any problems.
In version 6.2.0, however, ccp4.setup has permissions rwx r-- --- which makes 
it unreadable (and un-sourcable) for ordinary users! Strangely, 
ccp4-others.setup has the usual permissions rwx r-x r-x (although rw- r-- r-- 
should be sufficient for sourcing).
After rectifying the permissions of ccp4.setup, additional errors appear, 
concerning permissions of several scripts in the xia2 and phaser trees:
ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/setup.csh
ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/xia2core/setup.csh
ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/xia2/setup.csh
ccp4-6.2.0/src/phaser/bin/machine_type
ccp4-6.2.0/src/phaser/conf/version.csh
All these files have the same problematic permissions as ccp4.setup. After 
fixing them, ccp4.setup can be sourced without errors.
The bad thing is that there may be many more issues of this kind, which will 
only surface when trying to run a specific ccp4 program...

Maybe the developers or packagers could comment on this issue. It looks like 
this ccp4 version is supposed to be installed in a user's home directory, so 
that he/she can take ownership of all the files.
While in general there is nothing wrong with this type of installation, it 
should _NOT_ be considered the default on unix-type (i.e. multi-user) operating 
systems.

Best regards,
Oliver



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   Institute of Complex Systems
   ICS-6: Structural Biochemistry
   Tel.: +49 2461 61-2028
   Fax: +49 2461 61-1448




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Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt





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Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Charles Ballard
We are working to relax the permissions on the files to rwx r-x r-x

Charles Ballard
CCP4

On 19 Jul 2011, at 11:25, Weiergräber, Oliver H. wrote:

 Hello,
 
 version 6.2.0 of ccp4 has strange permissions set to several 
 setup/configuration scripts which are read while sourcing ccp4.setup.
 
 For a long time, ccp4 packages have been distributed with some arbitrary file 
 and directory ownerships which users are obviously supposed to edit to meet 
 their needs. On unix/linux workstations, we usually install under /usr/local 
 and change all ownerships to root.root (default practice for third-party 
 software).
 Up to now, this has not caused any problems.
 In version 6.2.0, however, ccp4.setup has permissions rwx r-- --- which makes 
 it unreadable (and un-sourcable) for ordinary users! Strangely, 
 ccp4-others.setup has the usual permissions rwx r-x r-x (although rw- r-- r-- 
 should be sufficient for sourcing).
 After rectifying the permissions of ccp4.setup, additional errors appear, 
 concerning permissions of several scripts in the xia2 and phaser trees:
 ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/setup.csh
 ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/xia2core/setup.csh
 ccp4-6.2.0/share/xia2/xia2/setup.csh
 ccp4-6.2.0/src/phaser/bin/machine_type
 ccp4-6.2.0/src/phaser/conf/version.csh
 All these files have the same problematic permissions as ccp4.setup. After 
 fixing them, ccp4.setup can be sourced without errors.
 The bad thing is that there may be many more issues of this kind, which will 
 only surface when trying to run a specific ccp4 program...
 
 Maybe the developers or packagers could comment on this issue. It looks like 
 this ccp4 version is supposed to be installed in a user's home directory, so 
 that he/she can take ownership of all the files.
 While in general there is nothing wrong with this type of installation, it 
 should _NOT_ be considered the default on unix-type (i.e. multi-user) 
 operating systems.
 
 Best regards,
 Oliver
 
 
 
  PD Dr. Oliver H. Weiergräber
  Institute of Complex Systems
  ICS-6: Structural Biochemistry
  Tel.: +49 2461 61-2028
  Fax: +49 2461 61-1448
 
 
 
 
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 Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
 Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB Digest - 17 Jul 2011 to 18 Jul 2011 (#2011-199)

2011-07-19 Thread Aurélie Martinez NovAliX
Could you please unsuscribe me from this mailing list?
My e-mail address is : a...@novalix-pharma.com

Thanks, 
Regards,

Aurélie Martinez.



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There are 9 messages totaling 627 lines in this issue. 

Topics of the day: 

1. Bypassing phase separation for nice crystals. (3) 
2. unusual sighting of a crystal structure (2) 
3. Off Topic: PDB validation server 
4. un-subscribe 
5. Data from old tapes (2) 

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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:52:31 -0400 
From: F. Timur Senguen 
Subject: Bypassing phase separation for nice crystals. 

Hi everyone, 

I have been issues with a particular protein. I have been close for a while, 
but yet so far. 

Rather than going from a clear drop to crystal, my protein first undergoes 
phase separation (large oily drops) in which one phase contains most, if not 
all, of the protein. This phase separation occurs within a day of preparing 
the drop. A day after phase separation the oily phase is now a large 
disordered crystalline mass which does not diffract very well. I have tried 
changing buffer concentrations, precipitant amounts, ionic strengths and pH 
and in all cases this phenomenon is observed. I even screened protein 
concentrations to see if reducing protein concentration would prevent the 
phase separation. 

Is there any way to bypass this phase separation, which I think prevents me 
from obtaining nice crystals. Should I try detergents, chaotropes, or other 
additives? 

Thanks in advance. 

Timur 

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Postdoctoral Research Fellow 
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64 Grove Street, 
Watertown, 
MA 02472 USA 

-- 

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:30:04 +0800 
From: Albert Guskov 
Subject: Re: Bypassing phase separation for nice crystals. 

Hi Timur, 
have you tried seeding from your microstalline stuff? Might be worth to try! 
Cheers, 
Albert 
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2011/7/18 F. Timur Senguen 

 Hi everyone, 
 
 I have been issues with a particular protein. I have been close for a 
 while, but yet so far. 
 
 Rather than going from a clear drop to crystal, my protein first undergoes 
 phase separation (large oily drops) in which one phase contains most, if not 
 all, of the protein. This phase separation occurs within a day of preparing 
 the drop. A day after phase separation the oily phase is now a large 
 disordered crystalline mass which does not diffract very well. I have tried 
 changing buffer concentrations, precipitant amounts, ionic strengths and pH 
 and in all cases this phenomenon is observed. I even screened protein 
 concentrations to see if reducing protein concentration would prevent the 
 phase separation. 
 
 Is there any way to bypass this phase separation, which I think prevents me 
 from obtaining nice crystals. Should I try detergents, chaotropes, or other 
 additives? 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 Timur 
 
 -- 
 F. Timur Senguen, Ph.D. 
 Postdoctoral Research Fellow 
 Boston Biomedical Research Institute 
 64 Grove Street, 
 Watertown, 
 MA 02472 USA 
 
 

-- 

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:05:07 +0200 
From: Florian Sauer 
Subject: Re: Bypassing phase separation for nice crystals. 



 Original-Nachricht  
Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Bypassing phase separation for nice crystals. 
Datum: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:01:27 +0200 
Von: Florian Sauer 
An: F. Timur Senguen 
CC: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 



Dear Timur, 

one possibility to handle this problem can be the change from vapor (I 
assume this is what you do) to the free interface diffusion method. 
Phase separation often occurs if the protein is immediately exposed to 
the full precipitant concentration while it might not escape into its 
own phase if it gets slowly equilibrated. 
There are commercial setups available for this method but you can also 
do it in a normal vapor diffusion plate. 
To do so, just put the protein and precipitant drops next to each other 
and then link them through a thin liquid bridge. Requires some practice 
and works best with large drops but helped me in several similar cases. 


Good luck! 

Florian 



Am 18.07.11 15:52, schrieb F. Timur Senguen: 
 Hi everyone, 
 
 I have been issues with a particular protein. I have been close for a 
 while, but yet so far. 
 
 Rather than going from a clear drop to crystal, my protein first 
 undergoes phase separation (large oily drops) in which one phase 
 contains most, if not all, of the protein. 

[ccp4bb] arp/warp error

2011-07-19 Thread Seema Nath
I've recently installed arp/warp(7.1) in ccp4 6.2 in linux i686,the problem is 
whenever I'm trying to run arp/warp navigator or any other programs under 
arp/warp it gives the error  cannot get environment variable for warpbin
Please help.
Thanks in advance.

Seema Nath


Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Chris Richardson
While we're on the subject of issues with the ccp4 6.20 distribution, I've had 
a problem with the Mac OS X package installer.

It seems to be missing the ccp4i executable.  Launching the application gives 
the following error:  

 19/07/2011 13:04:02   [0x0-0x269269].com.yourcompany.ccp4[17160]  
 /Applications/ccp4-6.2.0/ccp4.app/Contents/Resources/ccp4.sh: line 202: 
 /Applications/ccp4-6.2.0/bin/ccp4i: No such file or directory

I've searched what gets installed in /Applications/ccp4-6.20 and there is no 
ccp4i.  The package installer also has the aforementioned issues with script 
permissions.

Regards,

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Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear all,

ideally, permissions should be either

  rw-r--r-- (0644)

or (for files that need to be executed as well as directories)

  rwxr-xr-x (0755)

One quick fix:

  find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0755 {} ;
  find . -type f -exec chmod -v 0755 {} ;

but that last command makes every single file executable, which is
rather ugly (but doing a selective chmod 0755/0644 is a bit tricky
with all those script files - some need to be executed but others
arent). I don't see a need to have read-only files like all the CIF
dictionaries with permission 0755.


The correct permissions can only be set during packaging
unfortunately.

Cheers

Clemens

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Re: [ccp4bb] arp/warp error

2011-07-19 Thread Saul Hazledine
Hello Seema,
  I believe this error occurs because ARP/wARP has not been setup within the 
startup file for the shell that you are using. For instance, if you use bash 
(the default under most Linux distributions) you need to add the following line 
to the .bashrc file in your home directory:

source /path/to/arpwarp/arpwarp_setup.bash

If this doesn't fix the problem, or my instructions are unclear, please don't 
hesitate to contact me directly.

Saul Hazledine

On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Seema Nath wrote:

 I've recently installed arp/warp(7.1) in ccp4 6.2 in linux i686,the problem 
 is whenever I'm trying to run arp/warp navigator or any other programs under 
 arp/warp it gives the error  cannot get environment variable for warpbin
 Please help.
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Seema Nath


Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Dirk Kostrewa

Dear all,

or use a modified version of Clemens's commands for that:

find . -perm 700 -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -perm 750 -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -perm 600 -exec chmod 644 {} \;
find . -perm 640 -exec chmod 644 {} \;

Best regards,

Dirk.

Am 19.07.11 14:34, schrieb Clemens Vonrhein:

Dear all,

ideally, permissions should be either

   rw-r--r-- (0644)

or (for files that need to be executed as well as directories)

   rwxr-xr-x (0755)

One quick fix:

   find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0755 {} ;
   find . -type f -exec chmod -v 0755 {} ;

but that last command makes every single file executable, which is
rather ugly (but doing a selective chmod 0755/0644 is a bit tricky
with all those script files - some need to be executed but others
arent). I don't see a need to have read-only files like all the CIF
dictionaries with permission 0755.


The correct permissions can only be set during packaging
unfortunately.

Cheers

Clemens



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[ccp4bb] CCP4 releases

2011-07-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
Just a general curiosity - did I miss the release announcement for the
6.2.0 version on the bb or is it the CCP4 policy not to make such
announcements?  Perhaps the idea is to prevent people rushing to
download the latest release and crushing the server :)


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Re: [ccp4bb] Bypassing phase separation for nice crystals.

2011-07-19 Thread F. Timur Senguen
Thanks for all the suggestions.

I forgot to mention that I had tried microseeding and it was partially
successful. I am trying this while also pursuing other venues. At Florian's
suggestion I have set up a free interface diffusion method and it looks very
promising. I have a few free floating crystals that seem somewhat flawed,
but otherwise very nice. I will try combining microseeding techniques and
free interface diffusion to make THE crystal.

Timur


On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Florian Sauer sa...@embl-hamburg.dewrote:

  Dear Timur,

 one possibility to handle this problem can be the change from vapor (I
 assume this is what you do) to the free interface diffusion method. Phase
 separation often occurs if the protein is immediately exposed to the full
 precipitant concentration while it might not escape into its own phase if
 it gets slowly equilibrated.
 There are commercial setups available for this method but you can also do
 it in a normal vapor diffusion plate.
 To do so, just put the protein and precipitant drops next to each other and
 then link them through a thin liquid bridge. Requires some practice and
 works best with large drops but helped me in several similar cases.


 Good luck!

 Florian



 Am 18.07.11 15:52, schrieb F. Timur Senguen:

 Hi everyone,

  I have been issues with a particular protein. I have been close for a
 while, but yet so far.

  Rather than going from a clear drop to crystal, my protein first
 undergoes phase separation (large oily drops) in which one phase contains
 most, if not all, of the protein. This phase separation occurs within a day
 of preparing the drop. A day after phase separation the oily phase is now a
 large disordered crystalline mass which does not diffract very well. I have
 tried changing buffer concentrations, precipitant amounts, ionic strengths
 and pH and in all cases this phenomenon is observed. I even screened protein
 concentrations to see if reducing protein concentration would prevent the
 phase separation.

  Is there any way to bypass this phase separation, which I think prevents
 me from obtaining nice crystals. Should I try detergents, chaotropes, or
 other additives?

  Thanks in advance.

  Timur

 --
 F. Timur Senguen, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Research Fellow
 Boston Biomedical Research Institute
 64 Grove Street,
 Watertown,
 MA 02472 USA





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Postdoctoral Research Fellow
Boston Biomedical Research Institute
64 Grove Street,
Watertown,
MA 02472 USA


Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic: LCD monitors

2011-07-19 Thread David Schuller
You don't mention many other details about your stereo setup, so I will 
asssume you have/plan to get a nVidia 3D Vision setup.


If those are the only 3 choices, I would cross off the Samsung. It is a 
year older technology, with lower resolution and significant crosstalk. 
The ASUS and the Alienware are largely equivalent in resolution, screen 
size, and other specs. The clearest difference is that the ASUS has a 
glossy screen, rather than the more common anti-glare coating. So if you 
plan to use it in a room with other equipment and can't dim the lights, 
it may be more prone to annoying reflections. This is one of those 
features that some people like and some people hate. I tend toward the 
hate side.


If you want to expand your list of choices, here is the nVidia page for 
qualified display devices:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-requirements.html

There are some new options coming out now like the Acer GN245HQ, which 
has A) LED backlighting and B) the stereo IR emitter built into the 
monitor. I have not yet seen a clear statement from either nVidia or 
Acer about Linux compatibility though.




On 07/18/11 19:12, Padmaja Mehta-D'souza wrote:
Pardon the off-topic query, but I would like to get some feedback 
about any personal preference for 3D LCD monitors. I am trying to 
decide between the following 3 monitors:



  *Samsung 2233RZ* 1680 x 1050 2D and 3d Widescreen LCD Monitor


  Asus VG236H 23 2ms 1920x1080 Full HD 120Hz 3D multimedia Height 
  Swivel Adjustable WideScreen LCD


Alienware OptX AW2310 23 3D Full HD Widescreen Monitor

The monitor will display off of a Mac Pro Two Quad-Core Intel Xeon 
computer running both Apple and Linux OS.


Any input will be much appreciated.

Padmaja



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Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Miller, Mitchell D.
Another option is to use the recursive feature of chmod to 
change the permissions on the files.  E.g.

chmod -R a+rX  .

which will recursively add read for all users to files (and directories) and 
will 
also add execute if the file is a directory or if it already has at least one 
execute 
bit set.

Regards,
Mitch


From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Dirk Kostrewa 
[kostr...@genzentrum.lmu.de]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:14 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

Dear all,

or use a modified version of Clemens's commands for that:

find . -perm 700 -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -perm 750 -exec chmod 755 {} \;
find . -perm 600 -exec chmod 644 {} \;
find . -perm 640 -exec chmod 644 {} \;

Best regards,

Dirk.

Am 19.07.11 14:34, schrieb Clemens Vonrhein:
 Dear all,

 ideally, permissions should be either

rw-r--r-- (0644)

 or (for files that need to be executed as well as directories)

rwxr-xr-x (0755)

 One quick fix:

find . -type d -exec chmod -v 0755 {} ;
find . -type f -exec chmod -v 0755 {} ;

 but that last command makes every single file executable, which is
 rather ugly (but doing a selective chmod 0755/0644 is a bit tricky
 with all those script files - some need to be executed but others
 arent). I don't see a need to have read-only files like all the CIF
 dictionaries with permission 0755.


 The correct permissions can only be set during packaging
 unfortunately.

 Cheers

 Clemens


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Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic: LCD monitors

2011-07-19 Thread Colbert, Christopher
My $0.02.

My old lab had the Samsung and an Acer.  The Samsung was small and worked well 
in a dedicated graphics room.  The Acer died just after the warrantee period.

I now have a 23in Zalman attached to my macbook pro.  Outside of stereo viewing 
the text is alright, but not as clear as my Asus 27in monitor that does 
1900x1200.  The stereo viewing in PyMOL is fantastic and I think on par with 
the 3d Vision shutter system without the need for emitter compatibility and 
batteries in the glasses.  Plus, if I need extra glasses, I just bring a set 
home after going to see a 3D movie at the theater.  The real draw back to the 
Zalman is menu/text viewing in stereo.  Then the resolution is poor and reading 
is impossible so memorize where the functions you use most are.

The biggest drawback to all these monitors is the display size, which makes the 
new 27in consumer monitor by Acer, HN274H bmiiid, a monitor worth looking into, 
IMHO.

Keep up the discussion.

Chris
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Assistant Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
North Dakota State University
P.O. Box 6050 Dept. 2710
Fargo, ND 58108-6050
PH: (701) 231-7946
FAX: (701) 231-8324

From: David Schuller dj...@cornell.edumailto:dj...@cornell.edu
Reply-To: schul...@cornell.edumailto:schul...@cornell.edu 
schul...@cornell.edumailto:schul...@cornell.edu
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:57:21 -0700
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic: LCD monitors



[ccp4bb] Poor proline electron density

2011-07-19 Thread Dolphin Huang
Dear all,

Recently I crystallized and solved the structure of a protein using molecular 
replacement.   The crystal diffracts to 1.8A and has the R free of 0.21.  
During refmac and phenix refinement, I found that the N-terminal (~25 amino 
acids) electron density wasn't quite good, especially a proline residue.  It 
not only has little side chain electron density, but also doesn't have 
continuous electron density between backbone C-N until the sigma level going 
down until 1.2.  A normal backbone sigma contour level is above 2.5 in this 
structure.  I calculated composite omit map as well as the difference map.  In 
addition, NCS maps of those were calculated.  But its density is still unclear. 
 As proline normally has rigid structure and good electron density, will this 
mean some potential mistake in the structure?  

There seems no other way to trace the backbone.  And the upstream and 
downstream residues are not that bad.  If no way to find the solution, could 
there be an explanation about the poor electron density of protein.  By the 
way, this proline is connecting a beta-sheet and an alpha-helix, which is on 
the surface of the protein.  Also, the protein is soluble and has about 300 
amino acids. 

You kind suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

Dolphin


Re: [ccp4bb] Permissions and ownerships in ccp4 6.2.0

2011-07-19 Thread Pete Meyer

but that last command makes every single file executable, which is
rather ugly (but doing a selective chmod 0755/0644 is a bit tricky


I was wondering about having every file executable in the source 
distributions a while back, and came up with an quick way to make it 
less ugly (inline due to attachment filtering on my end):


##
#!/usr/bin/env bash

noexe()
{
local fn=$1
local pfx=`echo $fn | cut -c -3`
#don't mess with mercurial store; adjust as needed for different
# vcs
if [ $pfx = .hg ]; then
return
fi

local ft=`file $fn | grep exe`
if [ $ft =  ]; then
#not supposed to be executable, fix it
chmod -x $fn
fi
}

#using while loop rather than find -exec because -exec doesn't
# recognize bash functions.
find . -type f |while read i; do noexe $i ; done



with all those script files - some need to be executed but others
arent). I don't see a need to have read-only files like all the CIF
dictionaries with permission 0755.


The correct permissions can only be set during packaging
unfortunately.

Cheers

Clemens



Re: [ccp4bb] Data from old tapes

2011-07-19 Thread VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN
did you try looking if there is a company offering data recovery services from 
these kind of tapes? 
if there is, there may not be a need to buy a tape drive yourself.Mark 

Quoting Min, Xiaoshan:

 Dear CCP4 community,

 We have a few datasets that reside in tapes (Sony QG-112M 8 mm tape 
 and Maxell DDS-2 4 mm tape).  I have been searching the internet for 
 tape drives ( and cable) but haven't found anything.   Does anyone 
 know where we can purchase compatible tape drives for these lovely 
 tapes? Or if you have a spare working set sitting in your graphic 
 room and would like to sell them, that will be wonderful.   Thanks.


 Xiaoshan Min. Ph.D.
 Molecular Structure
 Amgen San Francisco
 1120 Veterans Blvd.
 South San Francisco, CA 94080



Mark J van Raaij
Laboratorio M-4
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoléculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnología - CSIC
c/Darwin 3, Campus Cantoblanco
28049 Madrid
tel. 91 585 4616
email: mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es 

Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic: LCD monitors

2011-07-19 Thread Guenter Fritz

Dear Padmaja,
I have use  Samsung 2233RZ for stereo running on  Linux and  Windows 
systems. Perfomance is great.

HTH
Guenter
Pardon the off-topic query, but I would like to get some feedback 
about any personal preference for 3D LCD monitors. I am trying to 
decide between the following 3 monitors:



  *Samsung 2233RZ* 1680 x 1050 2D and 3d Widescreen LCD Monitor


  Asus VG236H 23 2ms 1920x1080 Full HD 120Hz 3D multimedia Height 
  Swivel Adjustable WideScreen LCD


Alienware OptX AW2310 23 3D Full HD Widescreen Monitor

The monitor will display off of a Mac Pro Two Quad-Core Intel Xeon 
computer running both Apple and Linux OS.


Any input will be much appreciated.

Padmaja




Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic: How to delete loops from a protein/homology modeling

2011-07-19 Thread Paul Kraft
Hi Obayed,
even though there is 20% sequence identity you may be able to get a very good 
homology model, especially if there is more than one protein structure in the 
PDB with 20% homology. Then you can overlap the pdbs and find out what 
structurally needs to be preserved as opposed to what is in total homology 
preserved. Typically it is the position of turns residues G, D, S,  P, N etc. 
You won't know until you thread your protein through both pdbs and compare them 
all. Swiss Pro's Expasy has an easy program that will take an alignment with a 
pdb and generate a homology model with loops spliced in and energy minimized. 
There are many other more or less complicated programs, but it's a good one to 
start with.
Paul

Dr. Paul Kraft
Structural Biologist
cell 586-596-2770
email: haresea...@yahoo.com
email: kraft_proteome_resea...@yahoo.com


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From: James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic: How to delete loops from a protein
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 2:37 AM


I've found that predator is one of the best services of this sort:

  Ref: PROTEINS: Structure, Function, and Genetics 27:329–335 (1997)

  Server: http://mobyle.pasteur.fr/cgi-bin/portal.py?#forms::predator

The server is slow but the service is good.

James



On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Francois Berenger wrote:

 Hi Obayed,
 
 If I understood your question well,
 you are looking for something called secondary structure prediction.
 
 I googled these keywords and found this server:
 http://bioinf.cs.ucl.ac.uk/psipred/
 
 You may find other interesting servers on the web and
 some literature comparing them.
 
 I think such methods need only the sequence of your
 protein to predict its secondary structures.
 
 Hope this helps,
 Francois.
 
 On 07/19/2011 02:14 PM, Eric Larson wrote:
 Hi Obayed,
 
 you could give in situ protolysis a try. This is where you add a bit of
 protease along with you target protein to the crystallization drop. It
 has been quite successful for the folks at the SGC. Here are the
 relevant references:
 
 Dong A, et al. In situ proteolysis for protein crystallization and
 structure determination. Nat Methods. 2007 Dec;4(12):1019-21.PMID:
 17982461. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17982461)
 
 Wernimont A, Edwards A. In situ proteolysis to generate crystals for
 structure determination: an update. PLoS One. 2009;4(4):e5094. PMID:
 19352432. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19352432)
 
 good luck,
 
 Eric
 
 
 Eric T. Larson, PhD
 Biomolecular Structure Center
 Department of Biochemistry
 Box 357742
 University of Washington
 Seattle, WA 98195
 
 email: larso...@u.washington.edu
 
 
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Obayed Ullah wrote:
 
 
 Hi all
 
 I wrote last time but got only one feedback. I know some of you guys
 must have this experience that how to delete loops from the
 protein. Please help me with suggestions.
 
 I am working with a human protein which have around 20% sequence
 identity with the other proteins of  the same family. Structure
 of some of the proteins from this family have been solved. All the
 solved structures have around 20% identity with my protein. I
 am trying to crystallize  the protein but it looks like very hard to
 get crystal. I have tried different N and C terminally
 truncated constructs for crystallization but no crystal. My feeling is
 that probably there is some flexible loops with in the
 protein which limiting the crystallization.
 
 So I want to delete the loops with in the protein (not to truncate in
 the terminal, I already have done this). I am not asking
 suggestion about how to delete the loop rather how to decide where the
 loop is. I am not sure how much it will be helpful to get a
 homology model of such a protein having low sequence identity. Is
 there any strategy to decide where the loop could be? Does
 anybody know any established/ rational method to do that.
 
 Waiting for your suggestions
 
 Obayed Ullah
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic: How to delete loops from a protein/homology modeling

2011-07-19 Thread James Stroud
Homer is one of the best services for homology modeling:

  http://protein.cribi.unipd.it/Homer/

James


On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Paul Kraft wrote:

 Hi Obayed,
 even though there is 20% sequence identity you may be able to get a very good 
 homology model, especially if there is more than one protein structure in the 
 PDB with 20% homology. Then you can overlap the pdbs and find out what 
 structurally needs to be preserved as opposed to what is in total homology 
 preserved. Typically it is the position of turns residues G, D, S,  P, N etc. 
 You won't know until you thread your protein through both pdbs and compare 
 them all. Swiss Pro's Expasy has an easy program that will take an alignment 
 with a pdb and generate a homology model with loops spliced in and energy 
 minimized. There are many other more or less complicated programs, but it's a 
 good one to start with.
 Paul
 
 Dr. Paul Kraft
 Structural Biologist
 cell 586-596-2770
 email: haresea...@yahoo.com
 email: kraft_proteome_resea...@yahoo.com
 
 
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 --- On Tue, 7/19/11, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic: How to delete loops from a protein
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 2:37 AM
 
 I've found that predator is one of the best services of this sort:
 
   Ref: PROTEINS: Structure, Function, and Genetics 27:329–335 (1997)
 
   Server: http://mobyle.pasteur.fr/cgi-bin/portal.py?#forms::predator
 
 The server is slow but the service is good.
 
 James
 
 
 
 On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Francois Berenger wrote:
 
  Hi Obayed,
  
  If I understood your question well,
  you are looking for something called secondary structure prediction.
  
  I googled these keywords and found this server:
  http://bioinf.cs.ucl.ac.uk/psipred/
  
  You may find other interesting servers on the web and
  some literature comparing them.
  
  I think such methods need only the sequence of your
  protein to predict its secondary structures.
  
  Hope this helps,
  Francois.
  
  On 07/19/2011 02:14 PM, Eric Larson wrote:
  Hi Obayed,
  
  you could give in situ protolysis a try. This is where you add a bit of
  protease along with you target protein to the crystallization drop. It
  has been quite successful for the folks at the SGC. Here are the
  relevant references:
  
  Dong A, et al. In situ proteolysis for protein crystallization and
  structure determination. Nat Methods. 2007 Dec;4(12):1019-21.PMID:
  17982461. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17982461)
  
  Wernimont A, Edwards A. In situ proteolysis to generate crystals for
  structure determination: an update. PLoS One. 2009;4(4):e5094. PMID:
  19352432. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19352432)
  
  good luck,
  
  Eric
  
  
  Eric T. Larson, PhD
  Biomolecular Structure Center
  Department of Biochemistry
  Box 357742
  University of Washington
  Seattle, WA 98195
  
  email: larso...@u.washington.edu
  
  
  On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Obayed Ullah wrote:
  
  
  Hi all
  
  I wrote last time but got only one feedback. I know some of you guys
  must have this experience that how to delete loops from the
  protein. Please help me with suggestions.
  
  I am working with a human protein which have around 20% sequence
  identity with the other proteins of  the same family. Structure
  of some of the proteins from this family have been solved. All the
  solved structures have around 20% identity with my protein. I
  am trying to crystallize  the protein but it looks like very hard to
  get crystal. I have tried different N and C terminally
  truncated constructs for crystallization but no crystal. My feeling is
  that probably there is some flexible loops with in the
  protein which limiting the crystallization.
  
  So I want to delete the loops with in the protein (not to truncate in
  the terminal, I already have done this). I am not asking
  suggestion about how to delete the loop rather how to decide where the
  loop is. I am not sure how much it will be