Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question
On 07/30/11 04:05, Weiergräber, Oliver H. wrote: I also observed the tcltk path problem... I am not sure that it is the tcltk path he's talking about, it could be the execution path. I think a look at the ccp4.setup file is needed to figure out what went wrong. From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Yuri [yuri.pom...@ufl.edu] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:02 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I can change environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh. I tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed the PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I type ccp4 and I get no error. I am a bit at loss with the sh setup I tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" message, which leads me to think I am not succeding in sourcing it. Someone mentioned something about some files are not readable... I tried running the executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens... Thank you On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote: What is the output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error messages ? Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not being able to locate a specific library. Can you launch the programs independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the executables are (CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin) ./mtzdump You should see some output giving the program version etc. and a list of keyword options. If so, the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it could be an environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps you've taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk version are you using and where did you get it from ? I can help with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post it on the BB. Iain On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote: I tried that too ... no success On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote: Dear all, I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0. It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program... Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...) Best, It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to source tsch script, which naturally fails. Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead. -- Yuri Pompeu Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt -- === All Things Serve the Beam === David J. Schuller modern man in a post-modern world MacCHESS, Cornell University schul...@cornell.edu
[ccp4bb] Apochromatic and Achromatic
Dear All, In crystal examination stereo zoom microscopes, how important is it if one chooses a Achromatic objective lens compared to Apochromatic lens. Achromatic can give higher working distance ~ 70 mm or more as compared to Apochromatic, which may be important for picking crystals / manipulating before flash freezing. Is it good to compromise on working distance to get Apochromatic objective? An input from the community will be of great help to me. Many thanks in advance, Natesh. --- Ramanathan Natesh Now at IISER-TVM (India). "Live Simply and do Serious Things .. " - Dorothy Mary Crowfoot Hodgkin OM, FRS "In Science truth always wins" - Max Ferdinand Perutz OM FRS ---
Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question
Quoting you: "I type ccp4 and I get no error", what happens if you type "ccp4i" (followed by carriage return) ? Yuri wrote: I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I can change environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh. I tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed the PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I type ccp4 and I get no error. I am a bit at loss with the sh setup I tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" message, which leads me to think I am not succeding in sourcing it. Someone mentioned something about some files are not readable... I tried running the executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens... Thank you On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote: What is the output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error messages ? Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not being able to locate a specific library. Can you launch the programs independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the executables are (CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin) > ./mtzdump You should see some output giving the program version etc. and a list of keyword options. If so, the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it could be an environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps you've taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk version are you using and where did you get it from ? I can help with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post it on the BB. Iain On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote: I tried that too ... no success On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote: Dear all, I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0. It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program... Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...) Best, It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to source tsch script, which naturally fails. Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead. -- Yuri Pompeu
Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question
I also observed the tcltk path problem when installing ccp4-6.2.0 on EL5 (CentOS 5 in this case). It happens if root is using tcsh instead of bash. Notably, it must be a new bug introduced with the *revised* 6.2.0 packages. The initial version (the one with the file permission problem) generated the correct path for tcltk binaries in ccp4.setup, as did all other ccp4 versions I installed in recent years on the same OS. After fixing this, however, I did not notice any further problems. Regards, Oliver From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Yuri [yuri.pom...@ufl.edu] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:02 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I can change environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh. I tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed the PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I type ccp4 and I get no error. I am a bit at loss with the sh setup I tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" message, which leads me to think I am not succeding in sourcing it. Someone mentioned something about some files are not readable... I tried running the executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens... Thank you On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote: What is the output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error messages ? Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not being able to locate a specific library. Can you launch the programs independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the executables are (CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin) > ./mtzdump You should see some output giving the program version etc. and a list of keyword options. If so, the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it could be an environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps you've taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk version are you using and where did you get it from ? I can help with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post it on the BB. Iain On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote: I tried that too ... no success On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote: Dear all, I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0. It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program... Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...) Best, It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to source tsch script, which naturally fails. Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead. -- Yuri Pompeu Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt
