Re: [ccp4bb] FFT map coefficients only for certain chains

2012-02-20 Thread Paul Emsley


Like Herman, it was not apparent to me what exactly you want wanted.

If you want a map that covers only [1] or excludes [2] a particular atom 
selection then you can do that in Coot.


Extensions - Maps... - Mask Map by Atom Selection,

e.g. to show only the A chain, use an atom selection of //A.

You can then export the map using:

Extensions - Maps... - Export Map
or
Extensions - Maps... - Export Local Map Fragment...

If you really want structure factors from that then you can use sfall 
(MODE SFCALC MAPIN).


Paul.

[1] use mask inversion
[2] don't use mask inversion




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Behalf Of *zhang yu
*Sent:* Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:47 PM
*To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
*Subject:* [ccp4bb] FFT map coefficients only for certain chains

Dear CCP4ers,

Is that possible to generate map coefficients only for certain
chains? For example, I have two chains, A and B, and I would like
to output a map file only contains coefficients for chain A. The
isomesh command in Pymol could generate similar images. But my
purpose is not for presentation, I need a map file only contains
coefficient for certain chains.

In the interface of FFT tool in Phenix or CCP4, there is an
option to include a PDB file and define atom selections. It
describe that If a PDB is supplied, the output map will cover the
model plus a buffer on all sides. The atom selection parameters
can be used to specify a smaller region . If I define the
selection as chain A when I run the FFT, the output map still
covers a rectangular block containing chain A, instead of regions
only surrounding chain A.

Thanks.

Yu





-- 
Yu Zhang

HHMI associate
Waksman Institute, Rutgers University
190 Frelinghuysen Rd.
Piscataway, NJ, 08904






[ccp4bb] High R factor

2012-02-20 Thread Dipankar Manna
Dear Sir/Madam,

I am very new to this CCP4 program. Usually I know that after rigid body 
refinement the R factor reduces from the R factor what ever we get from Molrep. 
One of my data is showing some different characteristics. After running Molrep 
the R factor is showing 38% and score is 64%, but when I run rigid body 
refinement (Refmac5) the Rfactor is showing 46.07% and Rfree is 46.27. is it 
possible? Or else what I have to do with this data.

Please suggest.

Regards

Dipankar Manna



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Re: [ccp4bb] High R factor

2012-02-20 Thread Laurent Maveyraud

Hi,

it might well be possible that molrep used only lower resolution data 
(the default cutoff isd 2.5 A, if I remember correctly), when refmac 
uses all available data in the MTZ file...

Check that both steps were performed at the same resolution !

Another possibility is that molrep performed the search in different 
spacegroups than the one specified in the MTZ file (eg P4 selected 
during data processing, and molrep checks, P4, P41, P42 and P43). If 
your solution corresponds to the P41 spacegroup, you have to modify your 
MTZ file (or use the one produced by molrep)... otherwise refmac will 
perform the rigid body step in P4 and not P41...

This should be indicated in the molrep logfile... check it carefully !

hope this helps. If not please send the logfiles !

Laurent

Le 20/02/2012 11:48, Dipankar Manna a écrit :

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am very new to this CCP4 program. Usually I know that after rigid body
refinement the R factor reduces from the R factor what ever we get from
Molrep. One of my data is showing some different characteristics. After
running Molrep the R factor is showing 38% and score is 64%, but when I
run rigid body refinement (Refmac5) the Rfactor is showing 46.07% and
Rfree is 46.27. is it possible? Or else what I have to do with this data.

Please suggest.

Regards

Dipankar Manna




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[ccp4bb] Scientist or Senior Scientist Position in China

2012-02-20 Thread Wuyi Meng
Dear All,

I would like to draw your attention to the following job vacancy in
Jiangsu, P.R. China.



Job ID
Biortus_0131201201PS
Posting Title
Scientist or Senior Scientist, Structural Biology, Protein Structure Group
Country
P. R. China
Work Location
Jiangyin City, Jiangsu, P.R. China
Company/Legal Entity
Wuxi Biortus Biosciences, Inc.
Posting Functional Area
Research
Job Type
Full Time
Employment Type
Permanent
Job Description
Biortus Biosciences is an internationally recognized contract research
organization (CRO) supporting small to large pharmaceutical companies
around the world in the areas of protein expression and purification,
structure based drug design, assay development, and medicinal
chemistry. Biortus is equipped with strong research and development
experience with capabilities to support these efforts.

The successful candidate will lead a new centralized group responsible
for generating protein or protein ligand complex crystal structures to
expedite our clients’ drug discovery projects. Specifically, the
candidate will design constructs for protein expression and
purification, crystallization, data collection at home or synchrotron
and structure determination. The candidate will also need to analyze
the results, provide oral and written reports, and remain current with
regard to literature reports and technological developments.

Minimum requirements
We are seeking a highly motivated and versatile PhD scientist or an MS
scientist with 2+ years relevant experience to establish and lead a
small structural biology group. Industry experience would be a
distinct advantage, as would previous supervisory experience. A strong
background in Biochemistry, Molecular Biology, Structural Biology or
related field and have been well trained in protein and structural
biology laboratories.  The ideal candidate should have in-depth
knowledge and hands-on experience in protein X-ray crystallography
including crystallization, data collection, structure determination,
refinement and analysis and must be familiar with characterizing
protein-protein and protein-ligand interactions.  The successful
candidate must be detail oriented and be able to handle multiple tasks
efficiently. The candidate must possess good communication skills and
be comfortable working in a matrix based team environment.

Please forward cover letter and CV to: j...@biortus.com


[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Positions Available - Structural Biologist or Biochemist at UT Southwestern Medical Center

2012-02-20 Thread Xin Liu
Postdoctoral positions are available for highly motivated scientists in the 
laboratory of Dr. Xin Liu at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical 
Center at Dallas 
(http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/fis/faculty/127166/xin-liu.html). 

The research of the laboratory is focused on the regulation of chromatin 
organization and its impacts on transcription and human diseases. We are 
particularly interested in elucidating the molecular and biophysical basis of 
chromatin dynamics including chromatin looping mediated by macromolecular 
complexes during transcriptional activation and repression. Applicants with 
background and interest in structural biology, protein and nucleic acid 
biochemistry, chromatin and transcription biology, or biophysical methodology 
are encouraged to apply. 

Candidates should submit a CV, a list of three references, and a brief 
statement of research accomplishments and career goals by e-mail to: 
xin@utsouthwestern.edu
 

Xin Liu, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor 
Cecil H. and Ida Green Center for Reproductive Biology Sciences 
Molecular Biophysics Graduate Program
The University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas 

5323 Harry Hines Boulevard
J7.104A 
Dallas, TX 75390-8511 
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Phone (lab): 214-648-4516 
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[ccp4bb] Scientist or Senior Scientist Position in China

2012-02-20 Thread Wuyi Meng
Dear All,

I would like to draw your attention to a x-ray crystallographer position in 
Jiangsu, P. R. China.

Best,




Job ID
Biortus_0131201201PS
Posting Title
Scientist or Senior Scientist, Structural Biology, Protein Structure Group
Country
P. R. China
Work Location
Jiangyin City, Jiangsu, P.R. China
Company/Legal Entity
Wuxi Biortus Biosciences, Inc.   
Posting Functional Area
Research
Job Type
Full Time
Employment Type
Permanent
Job Description
Biortus Biosciences is an internationally recognized contract research 
organization (CRO) supporting small to large pharmaceutical companies around 
the world in the areas of protein expression and purification, structure based 
drug design, assay development, and medicinal chemistry. Biortus is equipped 
with strong research and development experience with capabilities to support 
these efforts.
 
The successful candidate will lead a new centralized group responsible for 
generating protein or protein ligand complex crystal structures to expedite our 
clients’ drug discovery projects. Specifically, the candidate will design 
constructs for protein expression and purification, crystallization, data 
collection at home or synchrotron and structure determination. The candidate 
will also need to analyze the results, provide oral and written reports, and 
remain current with regard to literature reports and technological developments.
 
Minimum requirements
We are seeking a highly motivated and versatile PhD scientist or an MS 
scientist with 2+ years relevant experience to establish and lead a small 
structural biology group. Industry experience would be a distinct advantage, as 
would previous supervisory experience. A strong background in Biochemistry, 
Molecular Biology, Structural Biology or related field and have been well 
trained in protein and structural biology laboratories.  The ideal candidate 
should have in-depth knowledge and hands-on experience in protein X-ray 
crystallography including crystallization, data collection, structure 
determination, refinement and analysis and must be familiar with characterizing 
protein-protein and protein-ligand interactions.  The successful candidate must 
be detail oriented and be able to handle multiple tasks efficiently. The 
candidate must possess good communication skills and be comfortable working in 
a matrix based team environment.
 
Please forward cover letter and CV to: j...@biortus.com


[ccp4bb] EMBO Practical Course: Computational structural biology - from data to structure to function

2012-02-20 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt

Hi all,

In April we will once again organise the EMBO practical course on 
Computational structural biology - from data to structure to function. The 
application deadline is only a week away - 24 February.


For more information about the course and how to apply, surf to:

http://www.ebi.ac.uk/training/onsite/120416_structures.html

--Gerard

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Re: [ccp4bb] FFT map coefficients only for certain chains

2012-02-20 Thread zhang yu
Herman,

Thanks for clarifying the difference between map coefficients and map files
for me. What I really need are only map files, and I could generate those
masked maps by following Paul's suggestion.

Yu


2012/2/20 Paul Emsley paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk


 Like Herman, it was not apparent to me what exactly you want wanted.

 If you want a map that covers only [1] or excludes [2] a particular atom
 selection then you can do that in Coot.

 Extensions - Maps... - Mask Map by Atom Selection,

 e.g. to show only the A chain, use an atom selection of //A.

 You can then export the map using:

 Extensions - Maps... - Export Map
 or
 Extensions - Maps... - Export Local Map Fragment...

 If you really want structure factors from that then you can use sfall
 (MODE SFCALC MAPIN).

 Paul.

 [1] use mask inversion
 [2] don't use mask inversion



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 *From:* CCP4 bulletin board 
 [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKCCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK]
 *On Behalf Of *zhang yu
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:47 PM
 *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 *Subject:* [ccp4bb] FFT map coefficients only for certain chains

  Dear CCP4ers,

 Is that possible to generate map coefficients only for certain chains? For
 example, I have two chains, A and B, and I would like to output a map file
 only contains coefficients for chain A. The isomesh command in Pymol
 could generate similar images. But my purpose is not for presentation, I
 need a map file only contains coefficient for certain chains.

 In the interface of FFT tool in Phenix or CCP4, there is an option to
 include a PDB file and define atom selections. It describe that If a PDB
 is supplied, the output map will cover the model plus a buffer on all
 sides. The atom selection parameters can be used to specify a smaller
 region . If I define the selection as chain A when I run the FFT, the
 output map still covers a rectangular block containing chain A, instead of
 regions only surrounding chain A.

 Thanks.

 Yu





 --
 Yu Zhang
 HHMI associate
 Waksman Institute, Rutgers University
 190 Frelinghuysen Rd.
 Piscataway, NJ, 08904






-- 
Yu Zhang
HHMI associate
Waksman Institute, Rutgers University
190 Frelinghuysen Rd.
Piscataway, NJ, 08904


Re: [ccp4bb] real dimer vs crystal packing

2012-02-20 Thread Qiang Chen
Thanks, Artem!
PDE2A also uses three domains to form a homodimmer. However, without the
catalytic domain, the GAF B domain swings out. This is an excellent
example for the restrictions set by the multidomain context.

Anyone knows other examples?
Thanks a lot!

 PDE2 full length versus domain only structures, I think.

 Artem

 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Qiang Chen
 c...@red.dfci.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm working on a multi-domain protein which uses three domains to form
 homodimer, and the full-length structure is available. We have solved
 the
 structure of one binding domain alone and found its homo-binding mode is
 totally different from that of the full-length protein.

 Do you know examples or papers discussing the similar subjects (crystal
 packing shows false binding mode)?

 Thanks a lot!

 Qiang



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Re: [ccp4bb] Best method for weighted averaging of Friedel pairs?

2012-02-20 Thread ccp4
This is a case where it is really helpful to keep some record of the 
unmerged integrated data.

And again rejecting the odd outlier does no harm to most analyses..

I like to use scala to check for outliers looking at all i+ I- 
measurements; if there is a wild discrepancy for weak anomalous signals 
you have probably found an outlier which is best rejected.


If you have a huge anomalous signal with good redundancy you probably 
shouldnt use Imean and the anomalous difference will be I= -I- with SD = 
sqrt (VarI+ VarI-).


Most software which uses that signal will check for outliers in the 
Anom difference lists too, and it is usually safest to exclude them from 
anom site searches, and phase calculations.

Eleanor
  On 14.02.2012 06:30, Tim Gruene wrote:

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Dear Markus,

why don't you reintegrate the data with hkl2000 telling the program 
to

treat them as non-anomalous data-set? This should give you scalepack
output with the Bijvoet pairs merged and overcome the problem you 
describe.


Cheers,
Tim

On 02/13/2012 06:19 PM, Markus Meier wrote:

On 11/02/12 02:52 PM, Bryan Lepore wrote:

did you ever get a response on this? it is interesting but nobody
posted publicly.

-Bryan



Dear Bryan,

so far no one replied ... so please find my answer below. If someone
disagrees, please post.

None of the methods I have described are appropriate.

If the negative Bijvoet mates and the positive Bijvoet mates have 
been
merged separately to one intensity value for each (i.e. I+ or I-) 
plus
the associated standard deviation (sigI+ or sigI-), any weighted 
method
to calculate the mean will bias the intensity to either the I+ or 
the I-.


Therefore the only appropriate method is to use the unweighted mean:

Imean = 0.5*( I+ + I- )
sigImean = 0.5 * sqrt( sigI+^2 + sigI-^2 )

The only CCP4 program I found that actually does this is mtzMADmod. 
This
method also has the advantage that the original intensity values of 
I+
and I- can be reconstructed from the mean and the anomalous 
difference

(albeit with the loss of the original standard deviations).

Method 1 (scalepack2mtz)
should not be used. The resulting value is not the best estimate
(maximum likelihood)

Method 2 (in book by B. Rupp)
gives the maximum likelihood average in case that the reflections 
are
equivalent and is thus appropriate for the merging of the negative 
(or
positive) set of Bijvoet mates, centric reflections (where the 
anomalous

differences are zero) or in the case of an non-anomalous dataset the
merging of symmetry equivalent reflections.

Method 3
gives a more realistic sigma value in the case that the individual
intensity values are far apart and their individual standard 
deviations

are small. Consider the example I have posted:

I+: 23841.50 sigI+: 634.01 I-: 9628.57, sigI-: 264.75
Method 2: Imean=11738.95, sigIMean=244.31
Method 3: Imean=11738.95, sigIMean=7106.47

If the I+ and I- values above actually were symmetry equivalent
reflections in an non-anomalous dataset, the sigImean from method 2 
is

ridiculously small and method 3 gives a far more realistic value. If
method 3 is the best mathematical solution to this problem I am not 
able

to judge and I have to trust the statistician (or programmer) who
implemented this solution.

Cheers,
Markus

On 10/02/12 01:47 PM, Markus Meier wrote:

Dear all,
I have a anomalous dataset, processed in HKL2000. Scalepack outputs 
a
file containing the separately merged sets of the Friedel pairs I- 
and
I+ and their standard deviations sigI+ and sigI-. Scalepack does 
not

output the averaged intensities (Imean) and the standard deviations
(sigIMean).

The CCP4 program truncate that I use to convert the intensities to
amplitudes requires Imean, I- and I+ and the respective standard
deviations in its input file.

I have now found at least three different methods to generate the
averaged intensities from the Friedel pairs:

1) scalepack2mtz

   uses standard deviations for the weights:
   weights w = 1/sigI

   Imean = (w+*I+ + w-*I- ) / (w+ + w-)
   sigImean = 1 / (w+ + w-)

2) Method described in Biomolecular crystallography by Bernhard 
Rupp, p.

332/333
   to average symmetry equivalent reflections

   uses variances for the weights:
   weight w = 1/sigI^2

   Imean = (w+*I+ + w-*I- ) / (w+ + w-)
   sigImean = 1 / sqrt(w+ + w-)

3) Method used in cctbx
   function miller.set.average_bijvoet_mates() that calls generic
merge.merge_equivalent_obs():

   same as methods 2, except that

   sigImean is the larger of either
 a) sigImean = 1 / sqrt(w+ + w-)
 or
 b) sigImean = sqrt( wvariance )

   where wvariance =
 (w+ + w-) / [ (w+ + w-)^2 - (w+^2 + w-^2) ] *
 [ w+*(F+ - Imean)^2 + w-*(F- - Imean)^2 ]

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each method? Should 
method

1 be used at all?

Some example from my dataset:
Reflection (1, 1, 0), space group P3 2 1

I+: 23841.50 sigI+: 634.01 I-: 9628.57, sigI-: 264.75
Method 1: 

[ccp4bb] HKL2000 indexing problem

2012-02-20 Thread Peter Hsu
Hi all,

I recently collected a data set off a single crystal and have had problems with 
indexing it. Every time I go pick peaks for indexing it constantly picks peaks 
that are just slightly off the actual peak. After indexing, it would always be 
that 2 of the 3 cell dimensions would be fairly normal, while the 3rd would 
have some impossible value such as 1. 

On some other occasions if it manages to pick peaks properly, and every time I 
go to index it, it gives back an error that I don't have enough peaks picked to 
index (picked nearly 500).

I've tried using a number of different images to index from and have run into 
the same problem.

Has anyone else run into these problems? Does anyone have any idea what might 
be wrong w/my dataset and/or crystal?

Thanks in advance for any insight,

Peter


Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 indexing problem

2012-02-20 Thread Jim Pflugrath
There could be many causes for this.  Perhaps you do not have the best def.site 
file for your detector / beamline / hardware.  What do your local HKL2000 
experts tell you?

You could e-mail me an image and I can help you.

Jim


From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Peter Hsu 
[hsuu...@u.washington.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:28 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 indexing problem

Hi all,

I recently collected a data set off a single crystal and have had problems with 
indexing it. Every time I go pick peaks for indexing it constantly picks peaks 
that are just slightly off the actual peak. After indexing, it would always be 
that 2 of the 3 cell dimensions would be fairly normal, while the 3rd would 
have some impossible value such as 1.

On some other occasions if it manages to pick peaks properly, and every time I 
go to index it, it gives back an error that I don't have enough peaks picked to 
index (picked nearly 500).

I've tried using a number of different images to index from and have run into 
the same problem.

Has anyone else run into these problems? Does anyone have any idea what might 
be wrong w/my dataset and/or crystal?

Thanks in advance for any insight,

Peter


Re: [ccp4bb] choice of wavelength

2012-02-20 Thread James Holton
The short answer is: no.  Wavelength does not matter.  Not for native 
data anyway.


I wrote a paper about this recently.  It is open access: 
http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S0907444910007262


In particular, check out Figure 2.  The two solid lines are pretty darn 
flat, and that means the wavelength dependence of damage and scattering 
power almost exactly cancel.  More on the dotted lines in a bit...


It is easy to screw up the scattering per damage calculation as there 
are many mathematical pitfalls.  Perhaps the trickiest one is thinking 
that the longer detector distances that would be used at shorter 
wavelengths (keeping the resolution on the edge of the detector fixed) 
leads to a net reduction of background/spot.  However, if you carefully 
calculate the area occupied by a spot, you again find that the noise due 
to background balances out, and there is again no wavelength 
dependence.  Lots of people have made that mistake.  Including me!  But 
eventually I found the error.  Some assurance can be hand that the no 
wavelength dependence conclusion is correct because experimental 
studies (http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S0907444993013101), also found no 
significant wavelength dependence to signal/noise/dose, as expected.


This is not to say that moving the detector back at constant wavelength 
is not a good idea.  It is!  You will generally get a signal/noise 
increase proportional to the distance (for weak spots).  And yes, this 
is why we spend so much money on large-area detectors!


Of course, the wavelength dependence of detector sensitivity is a 
completely different story.  For most theoretical calculations you 
assume a perfect detector system where the only noise is photon counting 
(also called shot noise).  It is important to remember that no such 
detectors actually exist.  Even Pilatus has some calibration error, 
pile-up error, etc. as well as a finite capture fraction.  In fact, 
pretty much any modern detector is designed to capture only 80-90% of 
the incident photons at most wavelengths.  I could go on and on, but 
since the OP was only asking about 1.0 A vs 0.9 A, the change in 
detector performance over such a narrow range will be negligible when 
compared to things like crystal-to-crystal variation.  Did you know that 
a 110 micron crystal is twice the volume of a 90 micron crystal?  And 
therefore can absorb twice as much energy before enduring the same dose?


The only other wavelength dependence that could be of practical 
importance is the escape of photoelectrons from the illuminated volume 
because these can carry away some energy that would otherwise cause 
damage.  This build up region effect has long been a trick of medical 
dosimetry using MeV-class photons (Johns  Cunningham, 1974).  It was 
only recently demonstrated experimentally on an MX beamline 
10.1073/pnas.1017701108.  It may be possible to take advantage of this 
effect in a real-world data collection, but any real gain will require 
crystal volumes so small that you cannot get a complete dataset from 
just one.  That is, unless you are working with VERY small molecules, 
you will need to be in the multi-crystal dataset regime before you can 
take advantage of photoelectron escape.


So, for any regular native data collection, I'd say: no, wavelength 
doesn't matter.


-James Holton
MAD Scientist

On 2/15/2012 3:55 PM, Bart Hazes wrote:
Diffracted intensity goes up by the  cube of the wavelength, but so 
does absorption and I don't know exactly about radiation damage. One 
interesting point is that on image plate and CCD detectors the signal 
is also proportional to photon energy, so doubling the wavelength 
gives 8 times diffraction intensity, but only 4 times the signal on 
integrating detectors (assuming the full photon energy is captured). 
So it would be interesting to see how the equation works out on the 
new counting detectors where the signal does not depend on photon 
energy. Another point to take into account is that beamlines can have 
different optimal wavelength ranges. Typically, your beamline guy/gal 
should be the one to ask. Maybe James Holton will chime in on this.


Bart

On 12-02-15 04:21 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:

Well, but there is more scattering with lower energy as well. The
salient parameter should probably be scattering per damage. I remember
reading some systematic studies a while back in which wavelength
choice ended up being insignificant, but perhaps there is more info
now, or perhaps I am remembering wrong?

Jacob

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Bosch, Juergenjubo...@jhsph.edu  
wrote:
No impact ? Longer wavelength more absorption more damage. But 
between the choices given no problem.
Spread of spots might be better with 1.0 versus 0.9 but that depends 
on your cell and also how big your detector is. Given your current 
resolution none of the mentioned issues are deal breakers.


Jürgen

..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-20 Thread Nian Huang
Is it possible the solution structure of SAXS, NMR and EM neglect the
existence of a very small percentage conformation of the molecule due to
the overwhelming signals from the majority conformations? But this state of
the molecule is trapped and enriched by the crystallization condition.

Nian


On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk wrote:

 Another good lesson here:

 2.
 The SAXS solution structure of RF1 differs from its crystal structure and
 is similar to its ribosome bound cryo-EM 
 structure.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16364917
 *Vestergaard B*, Sanyal S, Roessle M, Mora L, Buckingham RH, Kastrup JS,
 Gajhede M, Svergun DI, Ehrenberg M.
 Mol Cell. 2005 Dec 22;20(6):929-38.

 On 11/02/2012, at 18.18, Joel Sussman wrote:

  2012_02_11
 Dear All,
 Two really striking examples of Intrinsically Flexible Proteins are:

  (1) *Adenylate kinase*: Vonrhein, Schlauderer  Schulz (1995) *Structure*
 *3*, 483
 “Movie of the structural changes during a catalytic cycle of nucleoside
 monophosphate kinases”
 *http://portal.uni-freiburg.de/structbio/structuregallery/ak_folder/mpeg*
 in particular look at:
 *video as MPEG white background, closing  opening enzyme (707kb*)
 Each black dot [upper left, in the morph] indicates an observed crystal
 structure.

  (2) *Lac repressor*: see *Proteopedia* page on lac repressor,
 morphing from the structure bound to its cognate DNA, to that of the
 structure bound to its the non-cognate DNA,
 at:* http://proteopedia.org/w/Lac_repressor*

  best regards,
 Joel
  *

 *

  On 10 Feb 2012, at 22:51, Jacob Keller wrote:

  Interesting to juxtapose these two responses:

 James Stroud:

 How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution?


 David Schuller:

 How could that possibly be the case when any structure is an average of all

 the unit cells of the crystal over the timespan of the diffraction

 experiment?


 JPK



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 Jacob Pearson Keller
 Northwestern University
 Medical Scientist Training Program
 email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
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[ccp4bb] Modified and unmodified residue

2012-02-20 Thread Christopher Wanty
Hello,

I have a structure with a phosphorylated residue, but it looks like the residue 
may not be completely phosphorylated. I've currently modelled the residue 
purely as the phosphorylated variant, and have now been trying to put in a 
second conformer for the unmodified residue, but I'm finding the programs don't 
like two different residues with the same number.

What is the best way to tackle this? Should I go back to normal residue 
designation and then make a link to the ligand? Does anyone have a link to help 
me do this?

Thanks,
Chris



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University of Western Australia
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