Re: [ccp4bb] unknown density

2021-04-04 Thread Debanu Das
Hi,

This may be of interest in this discussion (the abstract is enlightening in
itself):

"Water polygons in high‐resolution protein crystal structures"
Jonas Lee, Sung‐Hou Kim
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19551896/

Download software here (you can analyze input pdb file to look at water
polygon structures): https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdbwaterpolygon/

Thanks,
Debanu

On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 10:27 AM Debanu  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This may be of interest in this discussion (the abstract is enlightening
> in itself):
>
> "Water polygons in high‐resolution protein crystal structures"
> Jonas Lee, Sung‐Hou Kim
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19551896/
>
> Download software here (you can analyze input pdb file to look at water
> polygon structures): https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdbwaterpolygon/
>
> Thanks,
> Debanu
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:15 AM Barone, Matthias 
> wrote:
>
>> can confirm jon´s comment. I find these in virtually every high-res
>> structure. some of them wobble a bit given the AA close by, such as Arg.
>>
>>
>> Dr. Matthias Barone
>>
>> AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design
>>
>> Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP)
>> Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10
>> 13125 Berlin
>>
>> Germany
>> Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284
>> --
>> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Jon
>> Cooper <488a26d62010-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2021 5:38:40 PM
>> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] unknown density
>>
>> Definitely water pentamer, no doubt at all ;-0
>> Cheers, Jon.C.
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> On 22 Mar 2021, 14:16, Mark J. van Raaij < mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The ring looks too big to be imidazole or a nucleotide or a carbohydrate,
>> so it’s probably mainly water molecules.
>> Perhaps partially replaced by PEG to explain the density between them
>> (i.e. water molecules in most copies of the protein and PEG in some other
>> copies). I’ve seen horse-shoe shaped PEG in a high-res structure before,
>> PEGs in several confirmations might explain a circle.
>> Practically speaking, I’d first model five waters and see if they refine
>> well.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 14:58, Sam Tang  wrote:
>>
>> Hello fellow colleagues
>>
>> Hope you are all well while the pandemics persists. I just wonder if
>> anyone may have an idea what this density (looking like a pentagon) might
>> be. The data was collected to 1.8 A and crystal was grown in Bis-tris +
>> PEG3350. Imidazole residual? Nucleotide (the protein itself is
>> nucleotide-binding, but shouldn't be at this particular site)?
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L9UBFmW72P214itM2HJR_DVy3FaA6FEZ/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> BRS
>>
>> Sam
>>
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Re: [ccp4bb] unknown density

2021-04-04 Thread Debanu
Hi,

This may be of interest in this discussion (the abstract is enlightening in
itself):

"Water polygons in high‐resolution protein crystal structures"
Jonas Lee, Sung‐Hou Kim
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19551896/

Download software here (you can analyze input pdb file to look at water
polygon structures): https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdbwaterpolygon/

Thanks,
Debanu

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:15 AM Barone, Matthias 
wrote:

> can confirm jon´s comment. I find these in virtually every high-res
> structure. some of them wobble a bit given the AA close by, such as Arg.
>
>
> Dr. Matthias Barone
>
> AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design
>
> Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP)
> Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10
> 13125 Berlin
>
> Germany
> Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284
> --
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Jon
> Cooper <488a26d62010-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2021 5:38:40 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] unknown density
>
> Definitely water pentamer, no doubt at all ;-0
> Cheers, Jon.C.
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> On 22 Mar 2021, 14:16, Mark J. van Raaij < mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es> wrote:
>
>
> The ring looks too big to be imidazole or a nucleotide or a carbohydrate,
> so it’s probably mainly water molecules.
> Perhaps partially replaced by PEG to explain the density between them
> (i.e. water molecules in most copies of the protein and PEG in some other
> copies). I’ve seen horse-shoe shaped PEG in a high-res structure before,
> PEGs in several confirmations might explain a circle.
> Practically speaking, I’d first model five waters and see if they refine
> well.
>
> Mark
>
> On 22 Mar 2021, at 14:58, Sam Tang  wrote:
>
> Hello fellow colleagues
>
> Hope you are all well while the pandemics persists. I just wonder if
> anyone may have an idea what this density (looking like a pentagon) might
> be. The data was collected to 1.8 A and crystal was grown in Bis-tris +
> PEG3350. Imidazole residual? Nucleotide (the protein itself is
> nucleotide-binding, but shouldn't be at this particular site)?
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L9UBFmW72P214itM2HJR_DVy3FaA6FEZ/view?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks!
>
> BRS
>
> Sam
>
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