Re: [ccp4bb] A phase ambiguity problem.

2011-04-27 Thread Bingfa Sun
Agree with Tim's idea. Generating a composite omit map to see if your
solution is correct (or at least some part is correct if conformational
difference exists between model and your protein).

Bingfa

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表 Tim Gruene
发送时间: 2011年4月27日 17:10
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主题: Re: [ccp4bb] A phase ambiguity problem.

Dear Jashin,

do you see any extra density in the map, of unexplained features?

An easy and quick test is to remove some part of the search model, e.g. an
alpha-helix, and recalculate the map. If you do see density for the missing
helix, it is a very promising sign that your solution is correct.
If you don't see anything chances are that it is a false solution, but at
very low resolution, I would probably make further tests to be sure.

Tim

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 04:28:49PM +0800, Jai-Shin Liu wrote:
 Dear all:
 
 A phase ambiguity problem.
 
 After rotation/translation/refinement, the free value junk 0.5. 
 It seems no significant solution from rf file. INTERESTING, the density
map seems to fit the template very well.
 
 In this case, is the phase still ambiguity or not?
 
 Thank you very much. Any comments will be appreciated.
 
 
 Jashin
 
 The rf file of molrep is below:
 theta phi chi alpha beta gamma Rf Rf/sigma  Sol_RF 1 
 156.17 161.35 93.59 27.11 34.26 244.41 648.4 3.81 Sol_RF 2 163.22 
 179.18 121.99 29.25 29.26 210.90 561.2 3.30 Sol_RF 3 140.62 -179.55 
 61.93 65.56 38.11 244.67 556.5 3.27 Sol_RF 4 162.13 178.18 52.79 62.89 
 15.68 246.54 548.7 3.23 Sol_RF 5 136.93 -168.34 80.84 69.77 52.57 
 226.45 533.9 3.14 Sol_RF 6 165.86 -154.33 119.55 56.67 24.37 185.33 
 525.6 3.09 Sol_RF 7 148.21 162.97 129.01 12.27 56.79 226.33 522.2 3.07 
 Sol_RF 8 165.70 -159.77 120.00 51.02 24.71 190.56 512.9 3.02 Sol_RF 9 
 164.58 -171.65 121.34 38.58 26.80 201.89 511.6 3.01 Sol_RF 10 144.59 
 159.55 61.67 43.61 34.56 264.50 503.4 2.96

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Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Optimization

2011-04-13 Thread Bingfa Sun
Dear Jobi,

For a crystal which is big in size(0.2-0.3mm is pretty big) while diffract 
poorly, dehydration (increase concentration of the precipitant slowly) is a 
good choice to improve diffraction, especially for those tends to crack during 
cryo.

Also those regular optimization approaches: Additive screen etc. Sometimes 
cleave the tag or change it to another end will work.

Cheers,

Bingfa

 

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Jobichen Chacko
发送时间: 2011年4月13日 17:44
收件人: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
主题: [ccp4bb] Crystal Optimization

 

Dear All,

We got crystals for a  35 KDa protein with 323aa including His tag and linker. 
It was originally  crystallized in 0.1M BisTris Propane pH:6.5, 0.2M Potassium 
thiocyanate and 20% PEG 3350. Later we managed to obtain crystals with 0.1M 
BisTris pH:6.5, 0.2M Potassium thiocyanate and 20% PEG 3350 as well.  Crystals 
are 3 dimensional in shape and 0.2-0.3mm long. Maximum resolution obtained till 
now is 5.8Å. Tried various cryo conditions like Oil, glycerol, salt and sugars. 
However, the resolution hasn't improved. The crystal tends to break in the 
presence of glycerol. 

Kindly give your suggestions to improve the resolution.

Thanks.

Jobi