Re: [ccp4bb] How to replace 2.45M K/Na phosphate buffer - 2

2007-06-22 Thread Murray, James W

Dear Claudia, 

These crystals dissolve in several cryoprotectant solutions and survive only 
in malonic acid, with which they give diffraction at 7-8 A.

You do not mention what the room temperature diffraction is like. If you have 
not tested it already, you should do so - even without malonate, you might only 
get 7-8A diffraction. Assuming the room-temp diffraction is OK, you could just 
try increasing the concentration of phosphate buffer - high salt can also act 
as a cryoprotectant.


James

Dr. James Murray
Biochemistry Building
Department of Biological Sciences
Imperial College London
London, SW7 2AZ
Tel: +44 (0)20 7594 5276





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From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Claudia Scotti
Sent: Fri 22/06/2007 13:42
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] How to replace 2.45M K/Na phosphate buffer - 2
 
Sorry: forgotten the pH: the crystals grow between pH 6.5 and 6.7.

Claudia


Claudia Scotti
Dipartimento di Medicina Sperimentale
Sezione di Patologia Generale
Universita' di Pavia
Piazza Botta, 10
27100 Pavia
Italia
Tel.   0039 0382 986335/8/1
Facs 0039 0382 303673


 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:15:47 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ccp4bb] How to replace 2.45M K/Na phosphate buffer
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 
 Dear list,
 
 I've crystals in a condition including 2,45 M K/Na phosphate buffer for the 
 well condition, and 1 microl protein + 0.8 microl Na/K phosphate buffer + 
 0.25 microl 30% 1,6-hexanediol in the drop condition.
 
 These crystals dissolve in several cryoprotectant solutions and survive only 
 in malonic acid, with which they give diffraction at 7-8 A.
 
 Among the several different possibilities, I'd like to try to optimize the 
 crystals, and one possiblity among others would be to change the buffer. 
 
 Any suggestions, please, about how to replace K/Na phosphate? At these 
 concentrations it is acting as a buffer but also as a precipitant and I was 
 wondering if anybody has experienced nice buffer-salt combinations that 
 proved to be useful starting from a similar condition.
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Claudia
 
 
 

 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Sezione di Patologia Generale
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Re: [ccp4bb] How to replace 2.45M K/Na phosphate buffer - 2

2007-06-22 Thread Kornelius Zeth
at around 4 molar P-buffer freezes clean.

Best wishes

Kornelius

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:42:00 +0200
 Claudia Scotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry: forgotten the pH: the crystals grow between pH 6.5
 and 6.7.
 
 Claudia
 
 
 Claudia Scotti
 Dipartimento di Medicina Sperimentale
 Sezione di Patologia Generale
 Universita' di Pavia
 Piazza Botta, 10
 27100 Pavia
 Italia
 Tel.   0039 0382 986335/8/1
 Facs 0039 0382 303673
 
 
  Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:15:47 +0200
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [ccp4bb] How to replace 2.45M K/Na phosphate
 buffer
  To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
  
  Dear list,
  
  I've crystals in a condition including 2,45 M K/Na
 phosphate buffer for the well condition, and 1 microl
 protein + 0.8 microl Na/K phosphate buffer + 0.25 microl
 30% 1,6-hexanediol in the drop condition.
  
  These crystals dissolve in several cryoprotectant
 solutions and survive only in malonic acid, with which
 they give diffraction at 7-8 A.
  
  Among the several different possibilities, I'd like to
 try to optimize the crystals, and one possiblity among
 others would be to change the buffer. 
  
  Any suggestions, please, about how to replace K/Na
 phosphate? At these concentrations it is acting as a
 buffer but also as a precipitant and I was wondering if
 anybody has experienced nice buffer-salt combinations
 that proved to be useful starting from a similar
 condition.
  
  Thanks a lot,
  
  Claudia
  
  
  
 
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Dipartimento di Medicina Sperimentale
  Sezione di Patologia Generale
  Universita' di Pavia
  Piazza Botta, 10
  27100 Pavia
  Italia
  Tel.   0039 0382 986335/8/1
  Facs 0039 0382 303673
 

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