[ccp4bb] In search of an article

2014-11-03 Thread DUMAS Philippe (VIE)
I am looking for the reference of this little paper (in J. Appl. Cryst ?) 
describing how to make a loop and fish crystals...
You know, this kind of humble method used by all crystallographers (apart FEL 
users).
Thank you in advance

Philippe Dumas


Re: [ccp4bb] In search of an article

2014-11-03 Thread Daniel Picot

Hi Phhilippe,

T. Y. Teng,
J. Appl. Crystallogr.
23,
J. Appl. Crystallography 23:387–391 (1990)
Mounting of crystals for macromolecular crystallography in a 
free-standing thin film


A method for mounting single crystals in macromolecular crystallographic 
studies is described in which the crystal is suspended in a thin film. 
The film is formed from a mixture of the crystallization buffer and a 
hydrophilic viscous material, confined within a thin-wire loop by 
surface tension. Compared with conventional crystal mounting methods, 
this method greatly simplifies and speeds the mounting procedure, is 
well suited to shock freezing and to optical monitoring of the crystals, 
deforms fragile crystals less and gives a lower and more uniform 
background in the X-ray diffraction patterns.


I do not have a copy, but if I remember well it was done with a copper 
wire, hair and nylon loops came later.

Daniel



Le 03/11/2014 18:23, DUMAS Philippe (VIE) a écrit :

I am looking for the reference of this little paper (in J. Appl. Cryst ?) 
describing how to make a loop and fish crystals...
You know, this kind of humble method used by all crystallographers (apart FEL 
users).
Thank you in advance

Philippe Dumas




Re: [ccp4bb] In search of an article

2014-11-03 Thread Frances C. Bernstein

How appropriate that someone whose name is Picot would be
the first one to have the answer.

If you don't get it, put define:picot in a google search box.

  Frances

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On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Daniel Picot wrote:


Hi Phhilippe,

T. Y. Teng, J. Appl. Crystallogr.
23,
J. Appl. Crystallography 23:387?391 (1990)
Mounting of crystals for macromolecular crystallography in a free-standing thin 
film

A method for mounting single crystals in macromolecular crystallographic 
studies is described
in which the crystal is suspended in a thin film. The film is formed from a 
mixture of the
crystallization buffer and a hydrophilic viscous material, confined within a 
thin-wire loop by
surface tension. Compared with conventional crystal mounting methods, this 
method greatly
simplifies and speeds the mounting procedure, is well suited to shock freezing 
and to optical
monitoring of the crystals, deforms fragile crystals less and gives a lower and 
more uniform
background in the X-ray diffraction patterns.

I do not have a copy, but if I remember well it was done with a copper wire, 
hair and nylon
loops came later.
Daniel



Le 03/11/2014 18:23, DUMAS Philippe (VIE) a ?crit :

I am looking for the reference of this little paper (in J. Appl. Cryst ?) 
describing how to mak
e a loop and fish crystals...
You know, this kind of humble method used by all crystallographers (apart FEL 
users).
Thank you in advance

Philippe Dumas





Re: [ccp4bb] In search of an article

2014-11-03 Thread DUMAS Philippe (VIE)

Le Lundi 3 Novembre 2014 19:06 CET, Frances C. Bernstein 
f...@bernstein-plus-sons.com a écrit:

Thank you all ! I got it.
Philippe D


 How appropriate that someone whose name is Picot would be
 the first one to have the answer.

 If you don't get it, put define:picot in a google search box.

Frances

 =
 Bernstein + Sons
 *   *   Information Systems Consultants
 5 Brewster Lane, Bellport, NY 11713-2803
 *   * ***
  *Frances C. Bernstein
*   ***  f...@bernstein-plus-sons.com
   *** *
*   *** 1-631-286-1339FAX: 1-631-286-1999
 =

 On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Daniel Picot wrote:

  Hi Phhilippe,
 
  T. Y. Teng, J. Appl. Crystallogr.
  23,
  J. Appl. Crystallography 23:387?391 (1990)
  Mounting of crystals for macromolecular crystallography in a free-standing 
  thin film
 
  A method for mounting single crystals in macromolecular crystallographic 
  studies is described
  in which the crystal is suspended in a thin film. The film is formed from a 
  mixture of the
  crystallization buffer and a hydrophilic viscous material, confined within 
  a thin-wire loop by
  surface tension. Compared with conventional crystal mounting methods, this 
  method greatly
  simplifies and speeds the mounting procedure, is well suited to shock 
  freezing and to optical
  monitoring of the crystals, deforms fragile crystals less and gives a lower 
  and more uniform
  background in the X-ray diffraction patterns.
 
  I do not have a copy, but if I remember well it was done with a copper 
  wire, hair and nylon
  loops came later.
  Daniel
 
 
 
  Le 03/11/2014 18:23, DUMAS Philippe (VIE) a ?crit :
 
  I am looking for the reference of this little paper (in J. Appl. Cryst ?) 
  describing how to mak
  e a loop and fish crystals...
  You know, this kind of humble method used by all crystallographers (apart 
  FEL users).
  Thank you in advance
 
  Philippe Dumas
 
 
 
 





Re: [ccp4bb] In search of an article

2014-11-03 Thread Uwe Sauer

Hi Philippe,

for the version with nylon fibres have a look at:
Sauer and Ceska (1997) A simple method for making reproducible fibre 
loops for protein cryocrystallography, J. Appl. Cryst. 30, 71-72


regards,

/Uwe


On 2014-11-03 18:23, DUMAS Philippe (VIE) wrote:

I am looking for the reference of this little paper (in J. Appl. Cryst ?) 
describing how to make a loop and fish crystals...
You know, this kind of humble method used by all crystallographers (apart FEL 
users).
Thank you in advance

Philippe Dumas



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