Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question- Solved

2011-08-02 Thread Yuri
  

I can launch the program after installing the newest package from
the Website 

Thank you all, 

yuri 

On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:01:47 +,
ronan.kee...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: 

> Dear Yuri, 
> 
> Are you still
encountering problems with this? I've made the changes to the CCP4
download site so that the path to the tcltk distribution is set
correctly on installation. You might want to download the latest version
from our website again if you are still having problems. 
> 
> Let me
know if you need help. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> Ronan 
> 
> Ronan Keegan

> 
> CCP4 Group 
> 
> FROM: CCP4 bulletin board
[mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] ON BEHALF OF Yuri
> SENT: 30 July 2011
01:02
> TO: ccp4bb
> SUBJECT: Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

> 
> I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I
can change environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh. 
> 
>
I tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed
the PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I
type ccp4 and I get no error. I am a bit at loss 
> 
> with the sh setup
I tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" message, which leads me
to think I am not succeding in sourcing it. 
> 
> Someone mentioned
something about some files are not readable... 
> 
> I tried running the
executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens... 
> 
> Thank you

> 
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote: 
> 
>> What
is the output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error
messages ? Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not
being able to locate a specific library.
>> 
>> Can you launch the
programs independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the executables
are (CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin)
>> 
>> > ./mtzdump
>> 
>> You should see some
output giving the program version etc. and a list of keyword options. If
so, the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it could be an
environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps you've
taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are
you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk
version are you using and where did you get it from ?
>> 
>> I can help
with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post it
on the BB.
>> 
>> Iain
>> 
>> On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote: 
>> 
>>
I tried that too ... no success 
>> 
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58
-0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: 
>> 
>> On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100,
Yuri wrote: 
>> 
>> Dear all, 
>> I have just downloaded and installed
the ccp4-6.2.0. 
>> It says all I should do next is source the
/setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot
launch the program... 
>> Any help is welcome...(it is probably
something really stupid on my part...) 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> It is most
likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to 
>> source
tsch script, which naturally fails. 
>> Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup
instead.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Yuri Pompeu

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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-08-01 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
There is another potential problem in the ccp4.setup-sh file: the
lines

  if test "LD_LIBRARY_PATH"; then

and

  if test "DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH"; then

(which always evaluate to true) should be

  if test "$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"; then

and

  if test "$DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH"; then

Otherwise you end up with LD_LIBRARY_PATH settings that could contain
a dangling "...:" - not sure if that could mess up your environment?

Cheers

Clemens

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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-30 Thread David Schuller

On 07/30/11 04:05, Weiergräber, Oliver H. wrote:

I also observed the tcltk path problem...


I am not sure that it is the tcltk path he's talking about, it could be 
the execution path. I think a look at the ccp4.setup file is needed to 
figure out what went wrong.





From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Yuri 
[yuri.pom...@ufl.edu]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:02 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I can change 
environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh.

I tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed the 
PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I type ccp4 and 
I get no error. I am a bit at loss

with the sh setup I tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" message, 
which leads me to think I am not succeding in sourcing it.

Someone mentioned something about some files are not readable...

I tried running the executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens...

Thank you





On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote:

What is the output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error messages 
? Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not being able to 
locate a specific library.

Can you launch the programs independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the 
executables are (CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin)


./mtzdump

You should see some output giving the program version etc. and a list of 
keyword options. If so, the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it 
could be an environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps 
you've taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are 
you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk version 
are you using and where did you get it from ?

I can help with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post 
it on the BB.

Iain

On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote:
I tried that too ... no success



On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote:
Dear all,
I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup 
file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...)
Best,


It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to
source tsch script, which naturally fails.
Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.





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Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt





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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-30 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Quoting you: "I type ccp4 and I get no error", what happens if you type 
"ccp4i" (followed by carriage return) ?


Yuri wrote:


I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I can 
change environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh.


I tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I 
changed the PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to 
usr/local/bin), I type ccp4 and I get no error. I am a bit at loss


with the sh setup I tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" 
message, which leads me to think I am not succeding in sourcing it.


Someone mentioned something about some files are not readable...

I tried running the executables in the /bin directory but nothing 
happens...


Thank you

 

 


On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote:

What is the output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error 
messages ? Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about 
not being able to locate a specific library.


Can you launch the programs independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to 
where the executables are (CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin)


> ./mtzdump

You should see some output giving the program version etc. and a list 
of keyword options. If so, the installation is probably OK and as Ed 
suggested it could be an environment problem. Why don't you outline 
the specific steps you've taken so far during installation and 
environment set up - what shell are you using ? did you download the 
source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk version are you using and where 
did you get it from ?


I can help with this, off the board and then if we find a solution 
you can post it on the BB.


Iain

On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote:

I tried that too ... no success



On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:

On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote:

Dear all,
I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
It says all I should do next is source the 
/setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I 
cannot launch the program...
Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on 
my part...)
Best, 



It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are 
trying to

source tsch script, which naturally fails.
Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead. 


 

 


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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-30 Thread Weiergräber , Oliver H .
I also observed the tcltk path problem when installing ccp4-6.2.0 on EL5 
(CentOS 5 in this case). It happens if root is using tcsh instead of bash.
Notably, it must be a new bug introduced with the *revised* 6.2.0 packages. The 
initial version (the one with the file permission problem) generated the 
correct path for tcltk binaries in ccp4.setup, as did all other ccp4 versions I 
installed in recent years on the same OS.
After fixing this, however, I did not notice any further problems.

Regards,
Oliver



From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Yuri 
[yuri.pom...@ufl.edu]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:02 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I can change 
environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh.

I tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed the 
PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I type ccp4 and 
I get no error. I am a bit at loss

with the sh setup I tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" message, 
which leads me to think I am not succeding in sourcing it.

Someone mentioned something about some files are not readable...

I tried running the executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens...

Thank you





On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote:

What is the output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error messages 
? Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not being able to 
locate a specific library.

Can you launch the programs independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the 
executables are (CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin)

> ./mtzdump

You should see some output giving the program version etc. and a list of 
keyword options. If so, the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it 
could be an environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps 
you've taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are 
you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk version 
are you using and where did you get it from ?

I can help with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post 
it on the BB.

Iain

On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote:
I tried that too ... no success



On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote:
Dear all,
I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup 
file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...)
Best,


It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to
source tsch script, which naturally fails.
Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.





--
Yuri Pompeu




Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH
52425 Juelich
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich
Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher
Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt




Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri
  

I downloaded the package for RHEL5. My default shell is sh. But I
can change environments. I have progrmas that I must run in tcsh. 

I
tried sourcing sh and csh setups. With the csh setup, after I changed
the PATH in the ccp4.setup file (originally set to usr/local/bin), I
type ccp4 and I get no error. I am a bit at loss 

with the sh setup I
tried sourcing and I get a "command not found" message, which leads me
to think I am not succeding in sourcing it. 

Someone mentioned
something about some files are not readable... 

I tried running the
executables in the /bin directory but nothing happens... 

Thank you


On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:53:49 -0700, Iain Kerr wrote: 

> What is the
output when you try to launch ccp4i ? Are there any error messages ?
Problems with Tcl/Tk will usually return an error about not being able
to locate a specific library.
> 
> Can you launch the programs
independent of the GUI ? eg. if you go to where the executables are
(CCP4/ccp4-6.2.0/bin)
> 
>> ./mtzdump
> 
> You should see some output
giving the program version etc. and a list of keyword options. If so,
the installation is probably OK and as Ed suggested it could be an
environment problem. Why don't you outline the specific steps you've
taken so far during installation and environment set up - what shell are
you using ? did you download the source code or binaries ? what Tcl/Tk
version are you using and where did you get it from ?
> 
> I can help
with this, off the board and then if we find a solution you can post it
on the BB.
> 
> Iain
> 
> On 7/29/2011 12:37 PM, Yuri wrote: 
> 
>> I
tried that too ... no success 
>> 
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58
-0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: 
>> 
>>> On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100,
Yuri wrote: 
>>> 
 Dear all, 
 I have just downloaded and
installed the ccp4-6.2.0. 
 It says all I should do next is source
the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot
launch the program... 
 Any help is welcome...(it is probably
something really stupid on my part...) 
 Best,
>>> 
>>> It is most
likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to 
>>> source
tsch script, which naturally fails. 
>>> Try
/setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.

-- 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri
  

yes, I noticed the default was TCLTK /usr/local/bin. I think it
should be /usr/local/username.../tcltkplusplus/bin 

Even after editing
this it doesnt launch. the command not found message is gone though 

On
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:02:22 +0200, Wei-Chun Kao wrote: 

> Hi, 
> where
did you install CCP4? from the path of your setup-script it seems like
to be in the root (/) ? It looks like the problem I posted some days
before but probably being buried in the middle of the other thread.
Since it's more related to this topic so I paste it again, hoping that
it can solve your question. 
> I recently found the problem that after
finishing the installation of CCP4-6.2.0 on RHEL5, if the installation
destination is not the default path (/usr/local/), the ccp4.setup for
csh wouldn't take the customized TCLTK path correctly. No matter if I
used sh or csh to install the CCP4 package. This would result in
programs using wish failed to start (e.g., ccp4i) from csh. Perhaps it's
also related to the issue in this thread. 
> 
> The way to solve this
problem is to manually edit the ccp4.setup for csh and correct the TCLTK
path. If you have no idea you can just copy the correct one in the
ccp4.setup for sh. 
> Wei-Chun 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM,
Yuri wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> I have just downloaded and installed the
ccp4-6.2.0.
>> It says all I should do next is source the
/setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot
launch the program...
>> Any help is welcome...(it is probably something
really stupid on my part...)
>> Best,
> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Wei-Chun Kao
Hi,

where did you install CCP4? from the path of your setup-script it seems like
to be in the root (/) ?  It looks like the problem I posted some days before
but probably being buried in the middle of the other thread. Since it's more
related to this topic so I paste it again, hoping that it can solve your
question.

I recently found the problem that after finishing the installation of
CCP4-6.2.0 on RHEL5, if the installation destination is not the default path
(/usr/local/), the ccp4.setup for csh wouldn't take the customized TCLTK
path correctly. No matter if I used sh or csh to install the CCP4 package.
This would result in programs using wish failed to start (e.g., ccp4i) from
csh. Perhaps it's also related to the issue in this thread.

The way to solve this problem is to manually edit the ccp4.setup for csh and
correct the TCLTK path. If you have no idea you can just copy the correct
one in the ccp4.setup for sh.

Wei-Chun

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Yuri  wrote:

> Dear all,
> I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
> It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup
> file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
> Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my
> part...)
> Best,
>



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TEL: +49-761-203-5277

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Stefan-Meier-Str. 17
D-79104 Freiburg im Breisgau
Germany


Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri

I tried that too ... no success



On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:28:58 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:

On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote:

Dear all,
I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
It says all I should do next is source the 
/setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup file... I have done that, but I cannot 
launch the program...
Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my 
part...)

Best,



It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying 
to

source tsch script, which naturally fails.
Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.


--
Yuri Pompeu


Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 20:08 +0100, Yuri wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0. 
> It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup 
> file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
> Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...)
> Best, 


It is most likely that your default shell is bash and you are trying to
source tsch script, which naturally fails.
Try /setup-scripts/sh/ccp4.setup instead.

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Re: [ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
I've had problems too. Some of the files are non-readable, so you need to
do a

sudo chmod -R a+r *

to make them readable. Also it looks like the libraries changed a bit (at
least for ADP).

Bernie

On Fri, July 29, 2011 2:08 pm, Yuri wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0.
> It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup
> file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
> Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my
> part...)
> Best,
>


[ccp4bb] Newbie Installation Question

2011-07-29 Thread Yuri
Dear all,
I have just downloaded and installed the ccp4-6.2.0. 
It says all I should do next is source the /setup-scripts/csh/ccp4.setup 
file... I have done that, but I cannot launch the program...
Any help is welcome...(it is probably something really stupid on my part...)
Best,