Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
Hi Mark, What about UCSF Chimera? Very easy to use. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/movies08/moviemaking.html More on the topic: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/animations/animations.html Check out the Nuclear pores movie. Amazing stuff. A few years back one had to pay huge $$$ for Maya to make something like that. And the script to make that movie is only 6-7 lines (they removed it from the webpage for some reason). Chimera comes packaged with ffmpeg, which is an alternative to mencoder, and, by default, you won't even see the frames before they become the final product - your movie in the format and quality of your choice. Petr From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of mjvdwo...@netscape.net [mjvdwo...@netscape.net] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 22:21 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
Dear Mark, I am always using mencoder with Windows and it has so far always worked fine for me. I didn't need to install anything, normally I just copy the mencoder.exe file to the directory with my png frames. Then, I use the following command line in a DOS command window: c:\my_path\mencoder mf://*.png -mf fps=25:type=png -ovc lavc -ni -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4v2:vbitrate=1000:vhq -nosound -o MyVideo.avi Hope this helps. Maike On 07.03.2011 22:21, mjvdwo...@netscape.net wrote: All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
Hey Mark, You could also try the MPEGstreamclip for windows: http://www.squared5.com/. This would read .png files and put them together in a variety of supported formats. -Caroline On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:21 PM, mjvdwo...@netscape.net wrote: All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University
[ccp4bb] Question about movie making
All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
Hey Mark, In Window PC, I used ImageReady, which comes with Photoshop. see this: http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/movie/making_movie.html Alternatively, using Mac version of Pymol, you can easily make a movie and save it in quick time format see this: www.chem.umass.edu/.../*BMS2006*Files/.../PymolMorphingMovie.pdf HTH, Matt On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:21 PM, mjvdwo...@netscape.net wrote: All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University -- Matthew L.H. Chu, PhD Postdoctoral Scholar - Weis Lab Department of Structural Biology Fairchild D143, MC 5126 Stanford School of Medicine Stanford, CA 94305-5432 Lab: 650-724-3306 Alternative Email: matt...@stanford.edu
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
sorry, this is the right link for the mac-pymol movie: people.chem.umass.edu/jhardy/BMS2006Files/pymol%20morphing/PymolMorphingMovie.pdf On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Chu linghonmatt...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Mark, In Window PC, I used ImageReady, which comes with Photoshop. see this: http://sage.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/movie/making_movie.html Alternatively, using Mac version of Pymol, you can easily make a movie and save it in quick time format see this: www.chem.umass.edu/.../*BMS2006*Files/.../PymolMorphingMovie.pdf HTH, Matt On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:21 PM, mjvdwo...@netscape.net wrote: All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University -- Matthew L.H. Chu, PhD Postdoctoral Scholar - Weis Lab Department of Structural Biology Fairchild D143, MC 5126 Stanford School of Medicine Stanford, CA 94305-5432 Lab: 650-724-3306 Alternative Email: matt...@stanford.edu -- Matthew L.H. Chu, PhD Postdoctoral Scholar - Weis Lab Department of Structural Biology Fairchild D143, MC 5126 Stanford School of Medicine Stanford, CA 94305-5432 Lab: 650-724-3306 Alternative Email: matt...@stanford.edu
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:21 PM, mjvdwo...@netscape.net wrote: We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? I used VideoMach for exactly this circa 2004, and it was excellent, despite only being available on Windows. I would have preferred to do everything on Linux, but I couldn't find any other (free or inexpensive) program that was that easy to use and would generate MPEGs that were well-compressed, high-quality, and ran well on any computer. But why not download the trial version and see how you like it? (It will watermark your movies, which appears to be a new feature since I used it, but at least it'll give you a feel for the interface, etc.) -Nat
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
Hi Mark, just use the Windows Movie Maker - it's easy to use and comes along with Windows (or can be downloaded via microsoft.com). This will help you to generate .wmv output files of any kind of video and / or picture files you provide as input files. The best possible quality output format in Windows Movie Maker is 1080p, which should give you a good quality. If there is still the need to convert it to .mpeg, you can use ASF Converter, which is freeware as well (see here: http://www.boilsoft.com/download.html ). Matthias Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:21:02 -0500 From: mjvdwo...@netscape.net Subject: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
Dear Mark, I put together a post about creating a movie using PyMOL, eMovie (free) and Adobe ImageReady CS2 to generate a Quicktime movie. http://www.p212121.com/2009/03/24/easily-make-movie-pymol/ I hope that helps. Take Care, Sean P212121 http://store.p212121.com/
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
Hi Mark (and Matthias), I'm not sure if Windows Movie Maker is the same as (or maybe the predecessor to?) Windows Live Movie Maker (http://explore.live.com/windows-live-movie-maker?os=other), but this is what I used recently to string together a series of png images from pymol to make a wmv movie of a protein motion. With Windows 7, the movie maker is no longer included by default with the OS so it must be downloaded (for free) and installed. Eric Eric T. Larson, PhD Biomolecular Structure Center Department of Biochemistry Box 357742 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 email: larso...@u.washington.edu On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Matthias Haffke wrote: Hi Mark, just use the Windows Movie Maker - it's easy to use and comes along with Windows (or can be downloaded via microsoft.com). This will help you to generate .wmv output files of any kind of video and / or picture files you provide as input files. The best possible quality output format in Windows Movie Maker is 1080p, which should give you a good quality. If there is still the need to convert it to .mpeg, you can use ASF Converter, which is freeware as well (see here: http://www.boilsoft.com/download.html ). Matthias _ Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:21:02 -0500 From: mjvdwo...@netscape.net Subject: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
I use ImageJ for this purpose. There is a flag for something like 'use virtual stacks' or 'use virtual memory' that I needed to prevent crashing. Nat On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Sean Seaver s...@p212121.com wrote: Dear Mark, I put together a post about creating a movie using PyMOL, eMovie (free) and Adobe ImageReady CS2 to generate a Quicktime movie. http://www.p212121.com/2009/03/24/easily-make-movie-pymol/ I hope that helps. Take Care, Sean P212121 http://store.p212121.com/
Re: [ccp4bb] Question about movie making
VirtualDub is the (absolutely free) program of choice, I'd say. Good luck, Matthias Am 07/03/2011 21:21, schrieb mjvdwo...@netscape.net: All, Pardon the slightly off-topic question. We would like to use Pymol and generate movies with it on a WINDOWS computer. We are very familiar with Pymol and how to make the correct views etc. We write the individual frames out into PNG files. So what is left to do, is to stitch together the PNG images to an MPEG file. On Linux you could do this with mencoder. But we would like to do this on Windows and installing mencoder on windows is possible but not easy. We have found videomach, which costs a very small amount of money to obtain. Similarly, Adobe Premiere is affordable for an educational institution. We don't mind paying, but before we go there, does anyone have experience with making MPEG movies from PNG files on windows? What is your experience with quality of product and especially with user friendliness? If you have any insight, we would appreciate your comments. Thanks! Mark van der Woerd Colorado State University -- Dr. Matthias Zebisch Universität Leipzig Biotechnologisch-Biomedizinisches Zentrum Strukturanalytik von Biopolymeren Deutscher Platz 5 04103 Leipzig Germany Phone: 0049-341-97-31323 (lab) -31312 (office) Fax : 0049-341-97-31319 email: matthias.zebi...@bbz.uni-leipzig.de
