Re: [ccp4bb] Updating Ubuntu 18 LTS to 20?
I have updated Ubuntu on notebooks a couple of times from one LTS release to the next. This works well (and is tested) for those packages that are part of the old release, but it does not necessarily work well for packages outside the distribution. apt-mark showmanual should show those manually installed packages on Ubuntu. (With Arch Linux or Manjaro you can use pacman -Qe instead. In case of Fedora, dnf history userinstalled should produce a list. In CentOS 7, yum history addon-info may be a start.) Obviously you'll have to keep an eye on those extra packages. They will not necessarily be upgraded, and they may even prevent the upgrade from one LTS to the next. When taking this into account, upgrades of LTS versions have worked for me. Hope this helps, Kay To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] Updating Ubuntu 18 LTS to 20?
Dear Boaz I'm replying to the bulletin, for others to also benefit from the conversation. I was hoping for more (positive) replies and decided I will not upgrade it for now. I will wait for the 22 or 24 LTS release and then very likely buy a new SSD for a clean installation, keeping the current set-up intact on the old drive. Hope that helps. BW Domen On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 4:17 PM Boaz Shaanan wrote: > Hi Domen, > > Since I am also currently using 18.04, I would be most interested to hear > about your experience on the upgrade to 20.04, if and when you do this, and > of course which way you decided to go with the upgrade (I saw the replies > you received regarding the upgrade modes). > I would be most grateful. > > All the best, > > Boaz > > > > > > > > > > > > *Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life > Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the > Negev Beer-Sheva > 84105 > Israel > E-mail: > bshaa...@bgu.ac.il Phone: 972-8-647-2220 >Fax: 972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710* > > > > > > -- > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Domen > Zafred > *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2022 10:59 PM > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Updating Ubuntu 18 LTS to 20? > > Hi all, > > has anyone updated the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver to the never 20.04? > That means with programs we usually have installed (java, phython, xds, > ccp4 & coot, phenix, R, data warrior, pymol, nomacine, etc)? Any troubles, > recommendations? > 22 LTS is coming out this year, I'm not sure if jumping from 18 to 22 > would be a good idea, but 18 is getting old. > > Thanks for any hints > > Domen > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] Updating Ubuntu 18 LTS to 20?
Dear Jim and Jon Thanks very much for your information and thoughts! Cheers, Domen On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:09 PM Jim Fairman wrote: > Hi Domen, > > I have been running 20.04 for quite some time now without any issues. In > my experience, performing in-place upgrades from a previous version (eg: > 14.04 to 16.04, 16.04 to 18.04) caused some issues and I usually ended up > having to wipe the system and perform fresh installs, but your mileage may > vary. My standard operating procedure is to backup your home directory and > any important files and perform a fresh install. > > The rolling release distributions like Arch and Manjaro avoid the issues > of having to perform upgrades across major versions, but always running the > "latest" packages may sometimes cause issues. However, I haven't found > this in my usage of them over the past 4 or 5 years. > > Cheers, Jim > -- > Jim Fairman > C: 1-240-479-6575 > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 1:00 PM Domen Zafred > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> has anyone updated the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver to the never 20.04? >> That means with programs we usually have installed (java, phython, xds, >> ccp4 & coot, phenix, R, data warrior, pymol, nomacine, etc)? Any troubles, >> recommendations? >> 22 LTS is coming out this year, I'm not sure if jumping from 18 to 22 >> would be a good idea, but 18 is getting old. >> >> Thanks for any hints >> >> Domen >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 >> > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] Updating Ubuntu 18 LTS to 20?
Hi Domen, I have been running 20.04 for quite some time now without any issues. In my experience, performing in-place upgrades from a previous version (eg: 14.04 to 16.04, 16.04 to 18.04) caused some issues and I usually ended up having to wipe the system and perform fresh installs, but your mileage may vary. My standard operating procedure is to backup your home directory and any important files and perform a fresh install. The rolling release distributions like Arch and Manjaro avoid the issues of having to perform upgrades across major versions, but always running the "latest" packages may sometimes cause issues. However, I haven't found this in my usage of them over the past 4 or 5 years. Cheers, Jim -- Jim Fairman C: 1-240-479-6575 On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 1:00 PM Domen Zafred wrote: > Hi all, > > has anyone updated the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver to the never 20.04? > That means with programs we usually have installed (java, phython, xds, > ccp4 & coot, phenix, R, data warrior, pymol, nomacine, etc)? Any troubles, > recommendations? > 22 LTS is coming out this year, I'm not sure if jumping from 18 to 22 > would be a good idea, but 18 is getting old. > > Thanks for any hints > > Domen > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
[ccp4bb] Updating Ubuntu 18 LTS to 20?
Hi all, has anyone updated the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver to the never 20.04? That means with programs we usually have installed (java, phython, xds, ccp4 & coot, phenix, R, data warrior, pymol, nomacine, etc)? Any troubles, recommendations? 22 LTS is coming out this year, I'm not sure if jumping from 18 to 22 would be a good idea, but 18 is getting old. Thanks for any hints Domen To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
