Re: [ccp4bb] xds and cell refinement in cP

2010-02-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Jan,

there is now a new version of XDS at
http://www.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~kabsch/xds/

The old versions of XDS had a very low radius of convergence for the
cell refinement in high-symmetry spacegroups.

This is fixed in the latest version, and it has other enhancements, too.

best,

Kay

Jan Abendroth schrieb:
 Hi all,
 I am running into a strange behaviour fo xds for a primitive cubic data set.
 Neither in the INTEGRATE nor in the CORRECT step the cell parameters are
 refined and stay exactly at the value specified in XDS.INP. R-factors
 and I/sigmas of the XSCALE run look suspiciously high/low. When I reduce
 the symmetry to tetragonal and run an otherwise identical XDS.INP
 script, the cell parameters are refined again.
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks a bunch
 Jan
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 home: Jan.Abendroth_at_gmail.com
 
 
 
 


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Re: [ccp4bb] xds and cell refinement in cP

2009-10-09 Thread Kay Diederichs

Jan Abendroth schrieb:

Hi all,
I am running into a strange behaviour fo xds for a primitive cubic data set.
Neither in the INTEGRATE nor in the CORRECT step the cell parameters are 
refined and stay exactly at the value specified in XDS.INP. R-factors 
and I/sigmas of the XSCALE run look suspiciously high/low. When I reduce 
the symmetry to tetragonal and run an otherwise identical XDS.INP 
script, the cell parameters are refined again.

Any ideas?

Thanks a bunch
Jan


Jan,

I think that in the cubic system you cannot refine cell and distance at 
the same time.

If you have, in XDS.INP,
REFINE(INTEGRATE)=DISTANCE CELL 
and similar for REFINE(CORRECT) then XDS will keep the cell at the input 
value, and refine the distance. So just remove DISTANCE from both lines 
in XDS.INP to have it refine the cell instead.


The fact that the R-factors and I/sigmas of the XSCALE run look 
suspiciously high/low is unrelated, I'd say.


HTH,

Kay
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Re: [ccp4bb] xds and cell refinement in cP

2009-10-08 Thread Graeme Winter
Hi Jan,

Always worth a try is to process the data in P1 then assigning the
symmetry in CORRECT - that way the cell constants can refine to what
they want to. It also means you can check that the symmetry actually
is cubic.

For the majority of data sets in my experience it makes little
difference whether you assign the lattice constraints during
integration, unless they're wrong.

Cheers,

Graeme



2009/10/8 Jan Abendroth jan.abendr...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,
 I am running into a strange behaviour fo xds for a primitive cubic data set.
 Neither in the INTEGRATE nor in the CORRECT step the cell parameters are
 refined and stay exactly at the value specified in XDS.INP. R-factors and
 I/sigmas of the XSCALE run look suspiciously high/low. When I reduce the
 symmetry to tetragonal and run an otherwise identical XDS.INP script, the
 cell parameters are refined again.
 Any ideas?
 Thanks a bunch
 Jan
 --
 Jan Abendroth
 deCODE biostructures
 Seattle / Bainbridge Island WA, USA
 work: JAbendroth_at_decode.is
 home: Jan.Abendroth_at_gmail.com