Re: [ccp4bb] what happens when freezer goes down

2014-04-25 Thread David Blum
Jackie,

We grow cells routinely and freeze pellets after fermentation.  In general,
proteins are fairly stable until you break cells so you are probably ok
unless your protein is very heat labile and it sat at room temperature for
hours.  However as I mentioned, there is a kind of buffering from the cell
that can stabilize the protein until you are ready to use it.  The glycerol
stocks are probably ok as well since you need just a small inoculum to get
your culture growing.  The plasmids may be the most affected, but you can
sequence if you have aberrant expression.

Best,

David

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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Jacqueline Vitali jackie.vit...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear colleagues,

 I know this is not related to ccp4 but I am in need of an answer and many
 of you work with cells etc.

 My building had a major malfunction of electricity and the power backup
 did not kick in.  My -80C freezer was without power for over 24 hours until
 I found out.  Because it is small, it goes fast to room temp.  I had many
 glycerol stocks in it with cells, cells with plasmids etc. as well as cell
 pellets.  I am trying to rescue things.

 My question is what happens to cell pellets.  I had many as I like to
 start purification at the cell pellet level.  Are these destroyed when they
 go to room temp for 24 hours or are they ok?

 Thanks.

 Jackie Vitali
 Cleveland State University







Re: [ccp4bb] what happens when freezer goes down

2014-04-25 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hi,

My condolences. This is not a fun experience!

Your plasmids will be OK :)

Glycerol stocks may be rescued as long as after going to room temperature
they did NOT get frozen again. Re-freeze will greatly reduce viability -
but even after one re-freeze you should be able to streak the glycerol
stocks onto appropriate plates and get a few (or more) colonies. Notably
this does not mean that expression from these rescued glycerols will be
good; furthermore there are quite a few protein expression constructs in
our labs that do not store well as glycerol stocks - fresh DNA
transformation is the only way to get consistent expression for them.

Proteins in frozen cell pellets: that's iffy. The outcome greatly depends
on the protein itself - for instance I had several proteins that had
activity loss issues even when stored in LN2. In a -80 freezer they would
lose 40-50% activity in a week, and a single freeze/thaw/freeze would kill
them instantly (even in cell pellets). Then again, other proteins are fine
'no matter what'. In cases like yours it really helps to have some sort of
parameter you can follow (activity, or something).

Frozen protein samples - can be even more iffy than pellets.

Pellets are generally cheap to make, though. Unless they are
isotope-labeled or suchlike.

Artem

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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Jacqueline Vitali jackie.vit...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear colleagues,

 I know this is not related to ccp4 but I am in need of an answer and many
 of you work with cells etc.

 My building had a major malfunction of electricity and the power backup
 did not kick in.  My -80C freezer was without power for over 24 hours until
 I found out.  Because it is small, it goes fast to room temp.  I had many
 glycerol stocks in it with cells, cells with plasmids etc. as well as cell
 pellets.  I am trying to rescue things.

 My question is what happens to cell pellets.  I had many as I like to
 start purification at the cell pellet level.  Are these destroyed when they
 go to room temp for 24 hours or are they ok?

 Thanks.

 Jackie Vitali
 Cleveland State University