Re: Unknown oldie w/8" floppy drives in Cheyenne Wyoming auction

[COURYHOUSE]

remember c3 p meant 3 different selectable  processors...
 
 
In a message dated 6/10/2016 2:04:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
space...@gmail.com writes:

That  looks like an Ohio Scientific C3-B with two 74MB hard drives.

I'd  really like to get that, and I'm within reasonable distance, but I
don't  think I'll be able to do it.

Re: Unknown oldie w/8" floppy drives in Cheyenne Wyoming auction

[COURYHOUSE]

c 3b or  c 3p?
 
I remember a model c3p.
 
 
In a message dated 6/10/2016 2:04:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
space...@gmail.com writes:

That  looks like an Ohio Scientific C3-B with two 74MB hard drives.

I'd  really like to get that, and I'm within reasonable distance, but I
don't  think I'll be able to do it.

RE: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[CuriousMarc]

http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/Teaching/learning/junk.conferences.html 
(specifically, The Society of Digital Information and Wireless Communications 
(SDIWC) is in the list of a fake or bogus scientific publications)
http://bogus-conferences.blogspot.com/2012/11/junk-fake-and-bogus-conferences-by.html
 

-Original Message-
On Jun 10, 2016 22:41, "Joan Sali"  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> No need to push me out. I don't want to be part of a group that 
> promotes hatred and glorifies verbal and written lashing. Before I go, 
> please stop using foul words, it warps your values and orientation.
>
> Warm regards,
> Joan Sali
> Conference Manager
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:24 PM, geneb  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Joan Sali wrote:
> >
> > Hi there Mike,
> >> I love this note under your name
> >> 'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
> >> Just curious why you're treating me like a garbage.  :(
> >>
> >> So let me see if I have this right
> >
> > You post to a group of classic computer enthusiasts about a subject 
> > that isn't at all applicable to the topic at hand and then get 
> > butthurt over being called on it?
> >
> > Spammer, scammer, or neither, it's pretty damn obvious that you're 
> > not welcome here.
> >
> > Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
> >
> > g.
> >
> > --
> > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> > Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
> >
> > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value 
> > database for the masses, not the classes.
> > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
> >
>

RE: Anyone have MULTOS/8 running on SimH?

[Josh Dersch]

To follow up to my own post; I tried it again at home this evening, on my Mac.  
And it works perfectly.  My machine at work is a Windows box; I'm guessing 
there's something odd with the keyboard handling for the Ctrl-H sequence on 
SIMH Windows but that's mere speculation at this point...

So, problem solved... kind of.
- Josh


From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Josh Dersch 
[jo...@livingcomputermuseum.org]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 4:24 PM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: Anyone have MULTOS/8 running on SimH?

I'm investigating getting MULTOS/8 running on the 8/e here at the museum and I 
thought I'd start by getting acquainted with it on SIMH.

I've picked up the disk pack from Dave Gesswein's site here: 
https://www.pdp8online.com/pdp8cgi/os8_html?act=dir;fn=images/os8/multos8.rk05;sort=name
 and the manual here: http://www.pdp8.net/os/multos8/

MULTOS as currently configured on the RK05 image appears to be set up for two 
terminals and everything listed in BUILD looks to agree with respect to the 
SimH hardware configuration.  I set up a password file per the instructions, 
and after I set the DATE, I do an:

.R MULTOS

And am greeted with:

HELLO !

THIS IS THE MULTOS/8 MULTI-USER OS/8 TIMESHARING SYSTEM
CREATED BY COMPUTER METHODS
   7822 OAKLEDGE ROAD
   SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH 84121, USA
   PHONE 801-942-8000


PLEASE INPUT TIME IN 24-HOUR FORMAT
(E.G. 0925 FOR 9:25 AM AND 1935 FOR 7:35 PM):
1601

THANK YOU !

THE SYSTEM IS NOW  TIMESHARING


TYPE CONTROL/H TO LOG ON.


At this point, the system becomes unresponsive; CTRL-H appears to have no 
effect.   AC and MQ seem to be incrementing over time as the docs describe.

I've poked around and in PARAM.PG, the address of TTY #2 is set to 32 (VT78?), 
rather than the 40 I'd expect.  I changed this and reassembled the JOBS device 
handler, and then used BUILD to rebuild the system using it.  I'm still getting 
the same behavior, however...

I have a bit of experience with OS/8 (but I'm not an expert) and nearly zero 
experience with MULTOS, so before I start debugging in SimH I thought I'd check 
to see that I'm not doing anything intensely stupid here...

Thanks!
Josh

Decmate II motherbord

[pdaguytom]

Looking for a Decmate II motherboard.  Doesn't need to have the CPU.

Thanks,
Tom

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Mike Stein]

- Original Message - 
From: "Glen Slick" 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Strange ICS on eBay


> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Brent Hilpert  wrote:
>>
>> Siemens DL3416
>>
>> Here you go:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkGyWIuCIo
>>
>> Looks like they may have the decoder built into them.
>> And 16-segment as mike says.
>>
> 
> I have a little breadboard wired up with an HP DL1414 and an AT90S1200
> that does almost exactly the same thing.

Very similar, but no cursor or discrete addressing mode.

I've got some AIM65s that can also do almost exactly the same thing ;-)

m

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Glen Slick]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Brent Hilpert  wrote:
>
> Siemens DL3416
>
> Here you go:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkGyWIuCIo
>
> Looks like they may have the decoder built into them.
> And 16-segment as mike says.
>

I have a little breadboard wired up with an HP DL1414 and an AT90S1200
that does almost exactly the same thing.

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Mike Stein]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Hilpert" 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Strange ICS on eBay


On 2016-Jun-10, at 6:24 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> On 2016-Jun-10, at 6:19 PM, Ali wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
>> Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
>> weird...
>> -Ali
> 
> Those are 4-digit 14-segment LED displays.

Siemens DL3416

Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkGyWIuCIo

Looks like they may have the decoder built into them.
And 16-segment as mike says.

===

Yup, that's what they are, similar to the DL1416s used in the AIM65 and 
elsewhere.

A little more intelligent than just decoders & drivers; send it a 2 bit address 
and a 7 bit character and it'll store and display it (them) until cleared or 
replaced, easily cascaded for longer length.

m

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Brent Hilpert]

DL 3416 rather than 1416.

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/dlmain/Datasheets-8/DSA-153936.pdf

You can barely make out :
DL 3416
SIEMENS yymm

on the side of the units in one pic.
yymm looks to be 9328.



On 2016-Jun-10, at 6:40 PM, Mike Stein wrote:

> They look like DL1416s but are not high enough and have 22 pins vs. 20:
> http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/45154/SIEMENS/DL1416B.html
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteen-segment_display
> 
> m
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Donzelli" 
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Strange ICS on eBay
> 
> 
>> They are little LED alphanumeric displays. Probably programmable. Cool
>> things, actually.
>> 
>> --
>> Will
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Ali  wrote:
>>> Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
>>> Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
>>> weird...
>>> -Ali
>>> 

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Mike Stein]

They look like DL1416s but are not high enough and have 22 pins vs. 20:
http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/45154/SIEMENS/DL1416B.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteen-segment_display

m

- Original Message - 
From: "William Donzelli" 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: Strange ICS on eBay


> They are little LED alphanumeric displays. Probably programmable. Cool
> things, actually.
> 
> --
> Will
> 
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Ali  wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
>> Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
>> weird...
>> -Ali
>>

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Brent Hilpert]

On 2016-Jun-10, at 6:24 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> On 2016-Jun-10, at 6:19 PM, Ali wrote:
>> Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
>> Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
>> weird...
>> -Ali
> 
> Those are 4-digit 14-segment LED displays.



Siemens DL3416

Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkGyWIuCIo

Looks like they may have the decoder built into them.
And 16-segment as mike says.

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Mike Stein]

Look like 4x16 segment LED displays to me.

m

- Original Message - 
From: "Ali" 
To: "CCTalk Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Strange ICS on eBay


> Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
> Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
> weird...
> -Ali
>
>

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[William Donzelli]

They are little LED alphanumeric displays. Probably programmable. Cool
things, actually.

--
Will

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Ali  wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
> Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
> weird...
> -Ali
>

Re: Strange ICS on eBay

[Brent Hilpert]

On 2016-Jun-10, at 6:19 PM, Ali wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
> Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
> weird...
> -Ali

Those are 4-digit 14-segment LED displays.

Strange ICS on eBay

[Ali]

Just wondering if anyone knows what these chips are for/from/etc.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152124208945
Interesting look to them. I would say EPROM but the magnifying window is 
weird...
-Ali

RE: IO Selectric

[CuriousMarc]

Here is the link to my Selectric II documentation:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k8l6sumb5cjrp7a/AADQ3SgnWqtqmw8Jo6yHV84ea?dl=0
Some of the files are still syncing, should be done soon. When it's all done
you should have 4 manuals. 
Marc

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Wade
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 4:19 AM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: IO Selectric

Thanks Marc Sounds Great. Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 
> CuriousMarc
> Sent: 10 June 2016 08:09
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' 
> Subject: RE: IO Selectric
> 
> Dave,
> The best manual I have has 54 pages of visual diagrams for adjusting 
> the Selectric II, which should be mechanically similar to yours, save 
> the
added
> actuators. With about 7 adjustments depicted per page. Really. That's 
> no
trivial
> piece of mechanical machinery, it's up there with some of the most 
> complex mechanical calculators I have. But they are very well 
> documented (unlike
said
> mechanical calculators). I'm in the process of uploading a folder with 
> all
the
> Selectric II manuals I have accumulated to my public Dropbox, 
> including
that
> most useful "visual" guide. Once it's up through my minuscule upload 
> bandwidth I'll post a link.
> Marc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave 
> Wade
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 1:07 AM
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts'
> Subject: RE: IO Selectric
> 
> Thanks Chuck,
> 
>  I should have got those before as I have been a member on there for 
> ages,
just
> couldn't remember they were there. The stuff in mine looks very 
> similar to
the
> Louis Sanders article I have, so I am sure its from the same article.
> 
>  I now need to read the theory and clean, adjust and lubricate.
> 
> Dave
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Chuck Guzis
> > Sent: 08 June 2016 22:51
> > To: cct...@classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: IO Selectric
> >
> > I just did a quick check--the Yahoo golfballtypewritershop group 
> > does have
> the
> > Louis Sander 1983 article from Micro magazine about converting an 
> > I/O selectric for general computer use.
> >
> > There's also a two parter on the I/O Selectric theory of operation.
> >
> > You should have enough there to keep you busy.
> >
> > --Chuck
> 
> 

Re: Using the simh LGP-30 emulator

[Curious Marc]

Wow. Well done, and superbly written blog entries. Talk about a lovely and 
totally original replica project! I can feel the 1950's vibes emanating from 
the little art deco front panel. We have one of these on display at the CHM. 
Once you get yours going, it would be cool if you came to demonstrate next to 
the real thing and teach us all about it!
Marc

> On Jun 9, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Oscar Vermeulen  
> wrote:
> 
> Some time ago, there were two posts asking how to operate the simh LGP-30 
> emulator. It is not exactly obvious from the rudimentary manual, and it seems 
> nobody had figured it out completely. I am slightly obsessed with this 
> machine at the moment (it happens), so here is a how-to on operating the 
> emulator and running the tape library of Christian Corti on it - in the hope 
> it's of use to others looking for clues:
> 
> 
> http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.ch/2016/06/using-simh-lgp-30-emulator.html
> 
> 
> Corti's LGP-30 emulator, by the way, gives a much better feel for the 
> machine. But simh source is available, which I needed because I'm making a 
> replica hardware front panel for the machine.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Oscar.
> 
> 

Re: Unknown oldie w/8" floppy drives in Cheyenne Wyoming auction

[Curious Marc]

Nice tube tester in there too!
Marc

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Pete Lancashire  wrote:
> 
> http://nicodemusauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_0238.jpg
> 
> http://nicodemusauctions.com/event/houge-electric-estate-auction/
> 
> Other then getting the notice I have no connection

Anyone have MULTOS/8 running on SimH?

[Josh Dersch]

I'm investigating getting MULTOS/8 running on the 8/e here at the museum and I 
thought I'd start by getting acquainted with it on SIMH.

I've picked up the disk pack from Dave Gesswein's site here: 
https://www.pdp8online.com/pdp8cgi/os8_html?act=dir;fn=images/os8/multos8.rk05;sort=name
 and the manual here: http://www.pdp8.net/os/multos8/

MULTOS as currently configured on the RK05 image appears to be set up for two 
terminals and everything listed in BUILD looks to agree with respect to the 
SimH hardware configuration.  I set up a password file per the instructions, 
and after I set the DATE, I do an:

.R MULTOS

And am greeted with:

HELLO !

THIS IS THE MULTOS/8 MULTI-USER OS/8 TIMESHARING SYSTEM
CREATED BY COMPUTER METHODS
   7822 OAKLEDGE ROAD
   SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH 84121, USA
   PHONE 801-942-8000


PLEASE INPUT TIME IN 24-HOUR FORMAT
(E.G. 0925 FOR 9:25 AM AND 1935 FOR 7:35 PM):
1601

THANK YOU !

THE SYSTEM IS NOW  TIMESHARING


TYPE CONTROL/H TO LOG ON.


At this point, the system becomes unresponsive; CTRL-H appears to have no 
effect.   AC and MQ seem to be incrementing over time as the docs describe.

I've poked around and in PARAM.PG, the address of TTY #2 is set to 32 (VT78?), 
rather than the 40 I'd expect.  I changed this and reassembled the JOBS device 
handler, and then used BUILD to rebuild the system using it.  I'm still getting 
the same behavior, however...

I have a bit of experience with OS/8 (but I'm not an expert) and nearly zero 
experience with MULTOS, so before I start debugging in SimH I thought I'd check 
to see that I'm not doing anything intensely stupid here...

Thanks!
Josh

Re: VAX-11/780 Board Set on eBait

[devin davison]

Well I am still holding out hope to find a vax 780 and get it running. I
did not think i would ever be able to find a pdp 11 , but one crossed my
path and i managed to pick it up. Perhaps one will still show up around
here somewhere. In the meantime ive been trying to stockpile parts for the
one day i do manage to find one and it need a board.
On Jun 10, 2016 6:03 AM, "Noel Chiappa"  wrote:

> > From: Devin Davison
>
> > It looked like a good batch of boards and i was holding out on
> finding
> > a machine.
>
> I hope that "a machine" wasn't 'an empty machine to plug them into' -
> because
> AFAICT the chances are that happening are basically zero. (People seem to
> save either i) complete machines, or ii) just the boards - apparently not
> realizing that without the backplane, etc, the boards are only useful as
> spares.)
>
> > Any good place to get a 11/780 aside from watching the local scrap
> > centers with my fingers crossed one will be there?
>
> For some reasons, /780's seem to be pretty rare. I suspect it's a case of
> 'they were mostly all scrapped long ago in favour of later models which
> were
> faster and smaller' (we see the same thing in other lines).
>
>
> Don't get me wrong, I truly do fervently hope that you do find one somehow,
> but one has to be realistic, I think. (I'd love to have an RF11, but I'm
> pretty sure they almost all went to the big scrap-heap in the sky many
> moons
> ago; so I'm not holding on, waiting for one to appear - rather, I'm getting
> on with the stuff that _is_ still here.) Sorry to be such a downer... :-(
>
> Noel
>

Re: Unknown oldie w/8" floppy drives in Cheyenne Wyoming auction

[Eric Smith]

That looks like an Ohio Scientific C3-B with two 74MB hard drives.

I'd really like to get that, and I'm within reasonable distance, but I
don't think I'll be able to do it.

Re: Unknown oldie w/8" floppy drives in Cheyenne Wyoming auction

[Josh Dersch]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> http://nicodemusauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_0238.jpg
>
> http://nicodemusauctions.com/event/houge-electric-estate-auction/
>
> Other then getting the notice I have no connection
>


Looks like OSI hardware to me:
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos.asp?t=1&c=47&st=1$

- Josh

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS (Don North)

[Michael Thompson]

>
> From: Don North 
> Subject: Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS
>
> Actually the page listed below is a big out of date with respect to some
> M9312
> images (it is not an up to date mirror).
> The up to date page is at:  http://ak6dn.dyndns.org/PDP-11/M9312/
>
> --
> Don North
> AK6DN
>

RCS/RI has some PDP-11/34 systems that booted, I think using DDCMP, via a
COAX interface from a PDP-10 KL10. I think that it took four ROMs to hold
the boot loader. You might not have a copy of those ROMs.

-- 
Michael Thompson

Unknown oldie w/8" floppy drives in Cheyenne Wyoming auction

[Pete Lancashire]

http://nicodemusauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_0238.jpg

http://nicodemusauctions.com/event/houge-electric-estate-auction/

Other then getting the notice I have no connection

Interlan DEC Ethernet boards

[william degnan]

Other threads about DEC and Ethernet got me thinkingI have a couple of
QBUS  LSI Internal BD-NI2010A Ethernet boards.  Anyone using these to
connect to an Ethernet network on their system?  It appears the ethernet
address # is burned/hard wired into the card.  Mine come from the
University of Delaware.

Bill

-- 
@ BillDeg:
Web: vintagecomputer.net
Twitter: @billdeg 
Youtube: @billdeg 
Unauthorized Bio 

Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS (Don North)

[Don North]

On 6/10/2016 4:56 AM, Michael Thompson wrote:

From: Don North 
Subject: Re: UNIBUS M9312 ROMS

Actually the page listed below is a big out of date with respect to some
M9312
images (it is not an up to date mirror).
The up to date page is at:  http://ak6dn.dyndns.org/PDP-11/M9312/

--
Don North
AK6DN


RCS/RI has some PDP-11/34 systems that booted, I think using DDCMP, via a
COAX interface from a PDP-10 KL10. I think that it took four ROMs to hold
the boot loader. You might not have a copy of those ROMs.

There is a three PROM set 23-86[234]A9 for device code XM which is DDCMP boot 
over a DMC11/DMR11. Those PROMs are available and on my web page.


A two PROM set 23-E3[23]A9 has been found for etherNet DELUA/DEUNA boot (device 
code XE?) but it has not been reverse engineered. Hopefully soon the device 
patterns will be read and forwarded to me for processing.


I am not aware of the four PROM set you mention, but it could certainly be a 
custom one for that application.



(XM) DECnet DDCMP DMC11/DMR11 	23-862A9 
 	0x0625 	SRC 


LST   (1,2)
23-863A9  
0x063F 	SRC 

LST 
23-864A9  
0x0551 	SRC 

LST 


--
Don North
AK6DN

Re: IBM 3511

[Mark J. Blair]

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 09:14, William Donzelli  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mark mentioned the brochure - I assume he saw the one on 1000bit.

Yes. I just googled "ibm 3511", and it came up at around hit number 5 for me. 
It was a regular google search; an image search wasn't nearly as helpful.

http://www.1000bit.it/ad/bro/ibm/IBM-PS2-351x-StorageOption.pdf

The power panel on my PS/2 85 is mirrored vs. the 3511's, with the power button 
on the left and the display filler panel on the right. The cutout for the 
serial number label is still in the same spot on the left:

https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/691171883236995072




-- 
Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: IBM 3511

[William Donzelli]

[mid posting now]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Liam Proven  wrote:
> [Fixing the top-posting]
>
 On 10 June 2016 at 17:28, William Donzelli  wrote:

 That Italian site has scans from the original IBM promo material (with
 the smaller 3510).
>
>>>On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Liam Proven  wrote:
>>>
>>> Um. Which Italian site was that?
>
>> On 10 June 2016 at 17:41, William Donzelli  wrote:
>>
>> http://www.1000bit.it
>
> Er, OK. I do not recall that being mentioned in this thread before.

Mark mentioned the brochure - I assume he saw the one on 1000bit.

--
Will

>
> I tried its search box and got 0 hits for "3511" or "3510".
>
> --
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Re: IBM 3511

[Liam Proven]

[Fixing the top-posting]

>>> On 10 June 2016 at 17:28, William Donzelli  wrote:
>>>
>>> That Italian site has scans from the original IBM promo material (with
>>> the smaller 3510).

>>On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Liam Proven  wrote:
>>
>> Um. Which Italian site was that?

> On 10 June 2016 at 17:41, William Donzelli  wrote:
>
> http://www.1000bit.it

Er, OK. I do not recall that being mentioned in this thread before.

I tried its search box and got 0 hits for "3511" or "3510".

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RE: IBM 3511

[Ali]

> A bit of Googling found this page:
> 
> http://ps-2.kev009.com/madmax/madmax/profile0.htm
> 
> ... with the only pics of a 3511 (2 of 'em, in fact) I came across.

I bow to your googlefu. I did not find that picture... Thanks!

-Ali

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

[Fred Cisin]

[720K]

Easy enough to have missed their short-term domination of the market if you
happened to have been on holiday.


On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote:

By the time I started work and so started using PCs, DOS 3.3 was
current and PS/2s were proliferating.
I apologise for my ignorance.


What's to apologize for?
Missing out on the short-lived reign of 720K was not hard to do.
To me, being in college was a lot like being on holiday.  My generation 
was part of the transition from "wine, women, and song" over to "drugs, 
sex, and rock&roll".  We knew that personal computers would be coming 
soon, but they weren't yet available.  We had boxes of cards, and 
occasional tapes, instead of floppy disks.


The remark about missing it if on holiday is a "humorous" idiom.
The time of the 720K 3.5" was short enough in IBM, that you could almost 
have missed it if you slept late that day :-)


I was involved in disk format conversion, so I was one of the few people 
to whom it was important.



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RE: IBM 3511

[Ali]

> It would have to be ASCII art for this list.
> 

Could always use a service and post a link

Re: IBM 3511

[William Donzelli]

http://www.1000bit.it

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Liam Proven  wrote:
> On 10 June 2016 at 17:28, William Donzelli  wrote:
>> That Italian site has scans from the original IBM promo material (with
>> the smaller 3510).
>
>
> Um. Which Italian site was that?
>
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Re: IBM 3511

[Liam Proven]

On 10 June 2016 at 17:28, William Donzelli  wrote:
> That Italian site has scans from the original IBM promo material (with
> the smaller 3510).


Um. Which Italian site was that?

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Re: IBM 3511

[William Donzelli]

> A bit of Googling found this page:
>
> http://ps-2.kev009.com/madmax/madmax/profile0.htm
>
> ... with the only pics of a 3511 (2 of 'em, in fact) I came across.

That Italian site has scans from the original IBM promo material (with
the smaller 3510).

Anyway, it seems that these 3511s are not all that common...

--
Will

Re: IBM 3511

[Liam Proven]

On 10 June 2016 at 16:46, Ali  wrote:
> Pictures or it didn'didn't happen ;)
> -Ali


A bit of Googling found this page:

http://ps-2.kev009.com/madmax/madmax/profile0.htm

... with the only pics of a 3511 (2 of 'em, in fact) I came across.


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Re: IBM 3511

[William Donzelli]

Actually...hmmm...maybe a new Youtube video is in order. I have a van
load of interesting IBM bits that I just acquired...

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Ali  wrote:
> Pictures or it didn'didn't happen ;)
> -Ali
>
>  Original message 
> From: William Donzelli 
> Date: 6/9/2016  10:39 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
> Subject: IBM 3511
>
> So today I picked up something I had never seen before - an IBM 3511.
> This is a large tower expansion chassis for the PS/2 line. It looks
> very straightforward - but can any of you PS/2 fans comment on this?
> Was it an unsuccessful product? Low demand item?
>
> --
> Will

Re: IBM 3511

[William Donzelli]

It would have to be ASCII art for this list.

--
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Ali  wrote:
> Pictures or it didn'didn't happen ;)
> -Ali
>
>  Original message 
> From: William Donzelli 
> Date: 6/9/2016  10:39 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
> Subject: IBM 3511
>
> So today I picked up something I had never seen before - an IBM 3511.
> This is a large tower expansion chassis for the PS/2 line. It looks
> very straightforward - but can any of you PS/2 fans comment on this?
> Was it an unsuccessful product? Low demand item?
>
> --
> Will

RE: IBM 3511

[Ali]

Pictures or it didn'didn't happen ;)
-Ali

 Original message 
From: William Donzelli  
Date: 6/9/2016  10:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  
Subject: IBM 3511 

So today I picked up something I had never seen before - an IBM 3511.
This is a large tower expansion chassis for the PS/2 line. It looks
very straightforward - but can any of you PS/2 fans comment on this?
Was it an unsuccessful product? Low demand item?

--
Will

Re: FS: (PURGE) all sorts of classic computer parts, computers, networking, ink/toner, etc

[rescue]

Verry sorry everyone didn't realize that the reply's were going to 
the list... apologies for the noise


-- Curt

On 2016-06-07 13:54, Austin Pass wrote:

On 7 Jun 2016, at 18:35, rescue  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am looking to clean out some of my stuff.  I'm 'buried' in it.




Qty 4 Canon 24 Color



Where are you located?

-Austin.

Re: FS: (PURGE) all sorts of classic computer parts, computers, networking, ink/toner, etc

[rescue]

On 2016-06-07 13:54, Austin Pass wrote:

On 7 Jun 2016, at 18:35, rescue  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am looking to clean out some of my stuff.  I'm 'buried' in it.




Qty 4 Canon 24 Color



Where are you located?

-Austin.


I'm in Sharon, MA zip 02067

-- Curt

Re: LASM compatible cross assembler?

[Chris Osborn]

On Jun 10, 2016, at 4:47 AM, Tor Arntsen  wrote:

> Is LASM-TDL compatible with LASM?  There's source for the former. 

No, it's a different animal. It uses TDL syntax and isn't entirely LASM 
compatible and isn't able to assemble Kermit. The lasm.doc file included claims 
that it's a modified version of LASM3 by Steve Schlaifer, which also isn't able 
to assemble Kermit. It looks like there may have been a LASM2 by Pete Mack but 
I haven't found it.

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Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Jason Scott]

Now I want to go.
On Jun 10, 2016 22:41, "Joan Sali"  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> No need to push me out. I don't want to be part of a group that promotes
> hatred and glorifies verbal and written lashing. Before I go, please stop
> using foul words, it warps your values and orientation.
>
> Warm regards,
> Joan Sali
> Conference Manager
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:24 PM, geneb  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Joan Sali wrote:
> >
> > Hi there Mike,
> >> I love this note under your name
> >> 'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
> >> Just curious why you're treating me like a garbage.  :(
> >>
> >> So let me see if I have this right
> >
> > You post to a group of classic computer enthusiasts about a subject that
> > isn't at all applicable to the topic at hand and then get butthurt over
> > being called on it?
> >
> > Spammer, scammer, or neither, it's pretty damn obvious that you're not
> > welcome here.
> >
> > Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
> >
> > g.
> >
> > --
> > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> > Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
> >
> > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
> >
>

Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep ?

[Liam Proven]

On 8 June 2016 at 15:50, Fred Cisin  wrote:
> Easy enough to have missed their short-term domination of the market if you
> happened to have been on holiday.


I was still at university when the 80386, the PS/2 range and MS-DOS
3.3 were released.

I was the only person I knew in my year with their own computer -- a
48K ZX Spectrum, with Interface 1 and a microdrive, an Alphacom 32
printer (a narrow-strip thermal printer; it took till rolls) and an
old portable B&W TV as its display.

In my last year, I upgraded to a Spectrum 128, a DISCiPLE disk
interface plus a single DSDD 80t 5.25" floppy drive (780K per disk
with MGT's GDOS) and a 9-pin dot-matrix printer (a Panasonic KX-P
1081).

I also used the university's VAXcluster (2 x VAX 11/780).

In a corner of a side room in the computer centre, there was a single
IBM PC, with MDA, greenscreen, a single 5.25" floppy and a hard disk.
(So I presume a PC-XT but I don't know.)

Nobody much ever used it. It was the slowest computer in the place,
unless the VAXen were very heavily loaded, and even then, it couldn't
print and wasn't attached to the VAX as a terminal so there was no way
to get anything on or off it.

I discovered it had the Infocom Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy game
on it, and learned enough DOS to play that.

CD \HITCH
HITCH

A couple of years later, that got me a job in tech support. Yes, really.

So, I missed the news because:
[a] I wasn't in work yet
[b] I used "real computers" at Uni, not PCs
[c] ordinary Brits couldn't afford PCs; I had a Spectrum, bought
piecemeal, that cost around $500 or so for the whole system.

By the time I started work and so started using PCs, DOS 3.3 was
current and PS/2s were proliferating.

I apologise for my ignorance.




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Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Joan Sali]

Hi Mike,
No need to push me out. I don't want to be part of a group that promotes
hatred and glorifies verbal and written lashing. Before I go, please stop
using foul words, it warps your values and orientation.

Warm regards,
Joan Sali
Conference Manager

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:24 PM, geneb  wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Joan Sali wrote:
>
> Hi there Mike,
>> I love this note under your name
>> 'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
>> Just curious why you're treating me like a garbage.  :(
>>
>> So let me see if I have this right
>
> You post to a group of classic computer enthusiasts about a subject that
> isn't at all applicable to the topic at hand and then get butthurt over
> being called on it?
>
> Spammer, scammer, or neither, it's pretty damn obvious that you're not
> welcome here.
>
> Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
>

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Joan Sali]

Hi William,
My apology but you are promoting hatred.
List my fault but please without using foul words. I thought it's not
allowed here, why slam it on my face?

Again, I am Joan Sali, one of the conference managers of sdiwc.net. I'm an
IT professional, doing promotion as a sideline. I am real, okay?

Please check sdiwc.net and see the list of international conferences that
we organize. Hope this is enough to clear things up.



On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:03 PM, william degnan 
wrote:

> Joan or whomever you really are,
> You are an @ss.  Go away.  I hope that's clear.
>
> Everyone else,
> Stop replying, you're only helping to publicize Joan or BOT, or ??.  If you
> must respond to the baited replies from "Joan" at least remove the body of
> the original text to keep the OP links out of the archives.
>
> Watch what happens next.   ... wait for it...wait for it...
>
> B
>

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[geneb]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Joan Sali wrote:


Hi there Mike,
I love this note under your name
'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
Just curious why you're treating me like a garbage.  :(


So let me see if I have this right

You post to a group of classic computer enthusiasts about a subject that 
isn't at all applicable to the topic at hand and then get butthurt over 
being called on it?


Spammer, scammer, or neither, it's pretty damn obvious that you're not 
welcome here.


Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Joan Sali]

Hi Dale,
Appreciate your thoughts. :)
The conference that I promote embraces the world of technology, therefore,
all aspects of computers, their components and everything in the field of
technology is covered. The difference is, various topics are presented by
scholars, computer enthusiasts, students, faculties and the like in a
conference setting.

I am inviting every technology lover members here, that's why I'm posting
the event. My apology if you find it off. My intention is not to replace
your set of general rules, but rather, to invite.

Again, apologies.

Joan Sali
Conference Manager
sdiwc.net
infosec2017




On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Dale H. Cook  wrote:

> At 08:42 AM 6/10/2016, Joan Sali wrote:
>
> >I'm thinking this is a general discussion.
>
> This is a general discussion about classic computers. Will your conference
> address security needs of , say, CP/M computers of the 1980s, minicomputers
> of the 1970s, or mainframe computers of the 1960s? I suspect not, and if
> not the topic does not belong here and is therefore regarded by many of us
> as spam.
>
> Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
> Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640
> http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/index.html
>
>

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[william degnan]

Joan or whomever you really are,
You are an @ss.  Go away.  I hope that's clear.

Everyone else,
Stop replying, you're only helping to publicize Joan or BOT, or ??.  If you
must respond to the baited replies from "Joan" at least remove the body of
the original text to keep the OP links out of the archives.

Watch what happens next.   ... wait for it...wait for it...

B

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Dale H. Cook]

At 08:42 AM 6/10/2016, Joan Sali wrote:

>I'm thinking this is a general discussion.

This is a general discussion about classic computers. Will your conference 
address security needs of , say, CP/M computers of the 1980s, minicomputers of 
the 1970s, or mainframe computers of the 1960s? I suspect not, and if not the 
topic does not belong here and is therefore regarded by many of us as spam.

Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA
Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640
http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/index.html 

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Joan Sali]

Hi there Mike,
I love this note under your name
'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
Just curious why you're treating me like a garbage.  :(

Regards,
Joan Sali
Conference Manager
INFOSEC2017




On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Mike Ross  wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Joan Sali  wrote:
> > Hey there Curios Marc,
> > For sure we are on the same boat, promoting events, conferences and you
> > mentioned IEEE. Care to check the list of organizers with the privilege
> of
> > using this badge and I assure you 100%, SDIWC.NET is in the list. WE are
> > not SPAMMERS okay?
> >
> > If you have a format that would instantly tell the readers that a
> promotion
> > is a fraud or worthy to attend, then please share it. Otherwise, you are
> > just using your personal judgment which is unfair.
> >
> > Do you have proof that I am pocketing the required fees? If none, please
> > refrain from assuming. This is scary. No wonder this world is in chaos
> > because of people like you. Why not ask first then gather evidences
> before
> > judging?
> >
> > Again, I am not forcing you to believe me or the event I am promoting.
> Just
> > check the site, call the speakers, any one in the program committee or
> one,
> > two or all the reviewers. I'll tell you, you'll eat your words in a
> > heartbeat.
> >
> > Too high level sarcasm.  Thank you anyway for reading.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Joan Sali
> > Conference Manager
> > INFOSEC2017
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
>
> 'Joan'
>
> Get a horse.
>
> Mike
>
> http://www.corestore.org
> 'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
> Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame.
> For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.'
>

The life of Plastics

[Rod Smallwood]

I just took my copy of RT11 mini reference (1985) off the shelf and the 
front cover fell off.


Not through wear and tear but brittleness. I wonder what else is going 
to fall apart in the plastics line.


Oh well at least I have the finest book cover repair material known to 
man to hand. What is it? Green packing tape!



Rod

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Joan Sali]

Good day Wiliam,
Check our office then to justify your curiosity.
I'm thinking this is a general discussion. From the word alone, it is
general. I am not posting a hate or discriminating event. So please be fair
in your judgment.

Best regards,
Joan Sali,
Conference Manager
INFOSEC2017

http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:37 PM, william degnan 
wrote:

> I also got hit with this from my U of Delaware address.  Whatever your
> justification, your message is off topic.  The moderator should block
> these.
> b
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Joan Sali  wrote:
>
> > Hey there Curios Marc,
> > For sure we are on the same boat, promoting events, conferences and you
> > mentioned IEEE. Care to check the list of organizers with the privilege
> of
> > using this badge and I assure you 100%, SDIWC.NET is in the list. WE are
> > not SPAMMERS okay?
> >
> > If you have a format that would instantly tell the readers that a
> promotion
> > is a fraud or worthy to attend, then please share it. Otherwise, you are
> > just using your personal judgment which is unfair.
> >
> > Do you have proof that I am pocketing the required fees? If none, please
> > refrain from assuming. This is scary. No wonder this world is in chaos
> > because of people like you. Why not ask first then gather evidences
> before
> > judging?
> >
> > Again, I am not forcing you to believe me or the event I am promoting.
> Just
> > check the site, call the speakers, any one in the program committee or
> one,
> > two or all the reviewers. I'll tell you, you'll eat your words in a
> > heartbeat.
> >
> > Too high level sarcasm.  Thank you anyway for reading.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Joan Sali
> > Conference Manager
> > INFOSEC2017
> >
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Curious Marc 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's interesting. It's the new thing. I get spammed by these at work,
> > > maybe several a month now. It's more sophisticated than usual: they
> take
> > > the same name as legit conferences but with a very slight variation,
> copy
> > > or invent badges and affiliations, and are (supposedly) in unusual,
> > remote,
> > > but attractive places. Web sites are well done at first glance,
> although
> > it
> > > doesn't take long to figure they are slightly off in every respect, and
> > > always in the same format. Of course you need to pay to register, which
> > > will go straight to Joan who works for the famous organization @
> > gmail.com.
> > > Jay can you take down the impostor please.
> > >
> > > And by the way, don't forget, I am organizing an IEEE Conference on
> > Upside
> > > Down Pancakes in Peru in 2018. I haven't had the time to make the
> website
> > > yet but you can already send your money to me. I am not affiliated with
> > > Joan but my email ends with @gmail.com just the same, so you are in
> good
> > > hands.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > > On Jun 9, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Joan Sali  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In cooperation with Faculty of Management, Comenius University in
> > > > Bratislava, Slovakia, SDIWC is inviting everyone to attend and
> > > participate
> > > > in The Third International Conference on Information Security and
> Cyber
> > > > Forensics (INFOSEC2017)
> > > > <
> > >
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> > > >
> > > > that
> > > > will be held on June 29-July 1, 2017. The event will be held over
> three
> > > > days, with presentations delivered by researchers from the
> > international
> > > > community, including presentations from keynote speakers and
> > > > state-of-the-art lectures.
> > > >
> > > > All registered papers will be published in SDIWC Digital Library, and
> > in
> > > > the proceedings of the conference.
> > > >
> > > > The conference welcomes papers on (but not limited to) the research
> > > topics
> > > > posted below.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you so much and See you in the conference.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Joan Sali
> > > > Conference Manager
> > > > INFOSEC2017
> > > > <
> > >
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -IMPORTANT INFORMATION-
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> > > > Venue:  Faculty of Management, Comenius University in Bratislava,
> > > Slovakia
> > > > Date:  June 29-July 1, 2017
> > > > Contact email:  infose...@sdiwc.net
> > > >
> > > > Submission Deadline Open from now until May 01, 2017
> > > > Notification of Acceptance May 20, 2017 or 4-7 weeks from the
> > submission
> > > > date
> > > > Camera Read

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Mike Ross]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Joan Sali  wrote:
> Hey there Curios Marc,
> For sure we are on the same boat, promoting events, conferences and you
> mentioned IEEE. Care to check the list of organizers with the privilege of
> using this badge and I assure you 100%, SDIWC.NET is in the list. WE are
> not SPAMMERS okay?
>
> If you have a format that would instantly tell the readers that a promotion
> is a fraud or worthy to attend, then please share it. Otherwise, you are
> just using your personal judgment which is unfair.
>
> Do you have proof that I am pocketing the required fees? If none, please
> refrain from assuming. This is scary. No wonder this world is in chaos
> because of people like you. Why not ask first then gather evidences before
> judging?
>
> Again, I am not forcing you to believe me or the event I am promoting. Just
> check the site, call the speakers, any one in the program committee or one,
> two or all the reviewers. I'll tell you, you'll eat your words in a
> heartbeat.
>
> Too high level sarcasm.  Thank you anyway for reading.
>
> Warm regards,
> Joan Sali
> Conference Manager
> INFOSEC2017
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/

'Joan'

Get a horse.

Mike

http://www.corestore.org
'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame.
For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.'

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[william degnan]

I also got hit with this from my U of Delaware address.  Whatever your
justification, your message is off topic.  The moderator should block these.
b

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Joan Sali  wrote:

> Hey there Curios Marc,
> For sure we are on the same boat, promoting events, conferences and you
> mentioned IEEE. Care to check the list of organizers with the privilege of
> using this badge and I assure you 100%, SDIWC.NET is in the list. WE are
> not SPAMMERS okay?
>
> If you have a format that would instantly tell the readers that a promotion
> is a fraud or worthy to attend, then please share it. Otherwise, you are
> just using your personal judgment which is unfair.
>
> Do you have proof that I am pocketing the required fees? If none, please
> refrain from assuming. This is scary. No wonder this world is in chaos
> because of people like you. Why not ask first then gather evidences before
> judging?
>
> Again, I am not forcing you to believe me or the event I am promoting. Just
> check the site, call the speakers, any one in the program committee or one,
> two or all the reviewers. I'll tell you, you'll eat your words in a
> heartbeat.
>
> Too high level sarcasm.  Thank you anyway for reading.
>
> Warm regards,
> Joan Sali
> Conference Manager
> INFOSEC2017
>
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Curious Marc 
> wrote:
>
> > It's interesting. It's the new thing. I get spammed by these at work,
> > maybe several a month now. It's more sophisticated than usual: they take
> > the same name as legit conferences but with a very slight variation, copy
> > or invent badges and affiliations, and are (supposedly) in unusual,
> remote,
> > but attractive places. Web sites are well done at first glance, although
> it
> > doesn't take long to figure they are slightly off in every respect, and
> > always in the same format. Of course you need to pay to register, which
> > will go straight to Joan who works for the famous organization @
> gmail.com.
> > Jay can you take down the impostor please.
> >
> > And by the way, don't forget, I am organizing an IEEE Conference on
> Upside
> > Down Pancakes in Peru in 2018. I haven't had the time to make the website
> > yet but you can already send your money to me. I am not affiliated with
> > Joan but my email ends with @gmail.com just the same, so you are in good
> > hands.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > > On Jun 9, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Joan Sali  wrote:
> > >
> > > In cooperation with Faculty of Management, Comenius University in
> > > Bratislava, Slovakia, SDIWC is inviting everyone to attend and
> > participate
> > > in The Third International Conference on Information Security and Cyber
> > > Forensics (INFOSEC2017)
> > > <
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> > >
> > > that
> > > will be held on June 29-July 1, 2017. The event will be held over three
> > > days, with presentations delivered by researchers from the
> international
> > > community, including presentations from keynote speakers and
> > > state-of-the-art lectures.
> > >
> > > All registered papers will be published in SDIWC Digital Library, and
> in
> > > the proceedings of the conference.
> > >
> > > The conference welcomes papers on (but not limited to) the research
> > topics
> > > posted below.
> > >
> > > Thank you so much and See you in the conference.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Joan Sali
> > > Conference Manager
> > > INFOSEC2017
> > > <
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> > >
> > >
> > > -IMPORTANT INFORMATION-
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> > > Venue:  Faculty of Management, Comenius University in Bratislava,
> > Slovakia
> > > Date:  June 29-July 1, 2017
> > > Contact email:  infose...@sdiwc.net
> > >
> > > Submission Deadline Open from now until May 01, 2017
> > > Notification of Acceptance May 20, 2017 or 4-7 weeks from the
> submission
> > > date
> > > Camera Ready Submission Open from now until May 28, 2017
> > > Registration Deadline Open from now until May 28, 2017
> > > Conference Dates June 29-July 1, 2017
> >
>



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Unauthorized Bio 

Re: Attend and Participate Information Security and Cyber Forensics (INFOSEC2017)

[Joan Sali]

Hey there Curios Marc,
For sure we are on the same boat, promoting events, conferences and you
mentioned IEEE. Care to check the list of organizers with the privilege of
using this badge and I assure you 100%, SDIWC.NET is in the list. WE are
not SPAMMERS okay?

If you have a format that would instantly tell the readers that a promotion
is a fraud or worthy to attend, then please share it. Otherwise, you are
just using your personal judgment which is unfair.

Do you have proof that I am pocketing the required fees? If none, please
refrain from assuming. This is scary. No wonder this world is in chaos
because of people like you. Why not ask first then gather evidences before
judging?

Again, I am not forcing you to believe me or the event I am promoting. Just
check the site, call the speakers, any one in the program committee or one,
two or all the reviewers. I'll tell you, you'll eat your words in a
heartbeat.

Too high level sarcasm.  Thank you anyway for reading.

Warm regards,
Joan Sali
Conference Manager
INFOSEC2017
http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/




On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Curious Marc 
wrote:

> It's interesting. It's the new thing. I get spammed by these at work,
> maybe several a month now. It's more sophisticated than usual: they take
> the same name as legit conferences but with a very slight variation, copy
> or invent badges and affiliations, and are (supposedly) in unusual, remote,
> but attractive places. Web sites are well done at first glance, although it
> doesn't take long to figure they are slightly off in every respect, and
> always in the same format. Of course you need to pay to register, which
> will go straight to Joan who works for the famous organization @gmail.com.
> Jay can you take down the impostor please.
>
> And by the way, don't forget, I am organizing an IEEE Conference on Upside
> Down Pancakes in Peru in 2018. I haven't had the time to make the website
> yet but you can already send your money to me. I am not affiliated with
> Joan but my email ends with @gmail.com just the same, so you are in good
> hands.
>
> Marc
>
> > On Jun 9, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Joan Sali  wrote:
> >
> > In cooperation with Faculty of Management, Comenius University in
> > Bratislava, Slovakia, SDIWC is inviting everyone to attend and
> participate
> > in The Third International Conference on Information Security and Cyber
> > Forensics (INFOSEC2017)
> > <
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> >
> > that
> > will be held on June 29-July 1, 2017. The event will be held over three
> > days, with presentations delivered by researchers from the international
> > community, including presentations from keynote speakers and
> > state-of-the-art lectures.
> >
> > All registered papers will be published in SDIWC Digital Library, and in
> > the proceedings of the conference.
> >
> > The conference welcomes papers on (but not limited to) the research
> topics
> > posted below.
> >
> > Thank you so much and See you in the conference.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Joan Sali
> > Conference Manager
> > INFOSEC2017
> > <
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> >
> >
> > -IMPORTANT INFORMATION-
> >
> >
> http://sdiwc.net/conferences/3rd-international-conference-information-security-cyber-forensics/
> > Venue:  Faculty of Management, Comenius University in Bratislava,
> Slovakia
> > Date:  June 29-July 1, 2017
> > Contact email:  infose...@sdiwc.net
> >
> > Submission Deadline Open from now until May 01, 2017
> > Notification of Acceptance May 20, 2017 or 4-7 weeks from the submission
> > date
> > Camera Ready Submission Open from now until May 28, 2017
> > Registration Deadline Open from now until May 28, 2017
> > Conference Dates June 29-July 1, 2017
>

Re: LASM compatible cross assembler?

[Tor Arntsen]

On 9 June 2016 at 16:54, Chris Osborn  wrote:

> Alternately, is the source code for Ward Christensen's LASM available 
> anywhere? The best I could find was a note from a Kermit developer from 27 
> years ago asking for the source. I suppose I could use a disassembler, but 
> then I don't have proper labels or comments.
>

Is LASM-TDL compatible with LASM?  There's source for the former. The
build setup produces an executable called LASM.COM. From the docu:

"LASM-TDL Description

This  is  an  enhanced version of the public domain  LINKASM  assembler.
Originally authored by Digital Research, rewritten and 'LINKed' by Ward
Christenson, improved by Pete Mack, expanded by Steve Schlaifer and now
compatabile with TDL operands by Pete Rudenko.  The major remaining step
would be to MACROize it.  Current primary enhancement is the accomodation
of the TDL Z80  operands and a 'COPY' directive.   This variation is now
compatable with two Z80 disassemblers also in the public domain.
"

You can find lasm-tdl.lbr e.g. here:
http://oldcomputers.dyndns.org/public/pub/mirror/oakcpm2/cpm/asmutl/index.html

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

[Maciej W. Rozycki]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Dave Wade wrote:

> >  You can surely get a proper Linux support contract -- proper as in: if
> you
> > trigger a bug (which may be anything from a protocol violation, through a
> > security hole, to a crash) in the kernel or other core component, then you
> can
> > log it with your support provider's bug tracking system and get it fixed
> with an
> > update release of the offending component provided within an agreed
> > reasonable time frame, having live access to the bug status throughout the
> > cycle.
> 
> You can but you will have to pay a subscription, and that will be expensive.
> You will also have to stick to a supported release such as Red Enterprise
> Hat.

 Of course, that's the kind of arrangement I had in mind.

> >  Now can you get it with Windows?  This is a serious question -- I've been
> asking
> > various IT people about it many times over the years, and only got evasive
> > answers (if any), but perhaps I asked the wrong people.
> > 
> 
> There are several options. Basic support is provided in the base licence,
> i.e. you get the fixes. Some of the licencing options include additional
> support calls. If you are big enough you will have a Technical Account
> Manager (TAM) who will assist in managing these calls.  However, the bottom
> line is you can always raise a per-incident support call on supported
> software by ringing the support number and giving them a credit card. It
> used to be £200. I have done this thee times I the last 20 years. Twice its
> been a known problem and received a refund.

 Thanks, good to know.  Might be useful to adjust some people's attitude 
("you need to live with that") in the future. :)

  Maciej

RE: IO Selectric

[Dave Wade]

Thanks Marc Sounds Great. Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> CuriousMarc
> Sent: 10 June 2016 08:09
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' 
> Subject: RE: IO Selectric
> 
> Dave,
> The best manual I have has 54 pages of visual diagrams for adjusting the
> Selectric II, which should be mechanically similar to yours, save the
added
> actuators. With about 7 adjustments depicted per page. Really. That's no
trivial
> piece of mechanical machinery, it's up there with some of the most complex
> mechanical calculators I have. But they are very well documented (unlike
said
> mechanical calculators). I'm in the process of uploading a folder with all
the
> Selectric II manuals I have accumulated to my public Dropbox, including
that
> most useful "visual" guide. Once it's up through my minuscule upload
> bandwidth I'll post a link.
> Marc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave
> Wade
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 1:07 AM
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts'
> Subject: RE: IO Selectric
> 
> Thanks Chuck,
> 
>  I should have got those before as I have been a member on there for ages,
just
> couldn't remember they were there. The stuff in mine looks very similar to
the
> Louis Sanders article I have, so I am sure its from the same article.
> 
>  I now need to read the theory and clean, adjust and lubricate.
> 
> Dave
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
> > Guzis
> > Sent: 08 June 2016 22:51
> > To: cct...@classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: IO Selectric
> >
> > I just did a quick check--the Yahoo golfballtypewritershop group does
> > have
> the
> > Louis Sander 1983 article from Micro magazine about converting an I/O
> > selectric for general computer use.
> >
> > There's also a two parter on the I/O Selectric theory of operation.
> >
> > You should have enough there to keep you busy.
> >
> > --Chuck
> 
> 

RE: IO Selectric

[CuriousMarc]

Dave,
The best manual I have has 54 pages of visual diagrams for adjusting the
Selectric II, which should be mechanically similar to yours, save the added
actuators. With about 7 adjustments depicted per page. Really. That's no
trivial piece of mechanical machinery, it's up there with some of the most
complex mechanical calculators I have. But they are very well documented
(unlike said mechanical calculators). I'm in the process of uploading a
folder with all the Selectric II manuals I have accumulated to my public
Dropbox, including that most useful "visual" guide. Once it's up through my
minuscule upload bandwidth I'll post a link.
Marc

-Original Message-
From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Wade
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 1:07 AM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: IO Selectric

Thanks Chuck,

 I should have got those before as I have been a member on there for ages,
just couldn't remember they were there. The stuff in mine looks very similar
to the Louis Sanders article I have, so I am sure its from the same article.

 I now need to read the theory and clean, adjust and lubricate.

Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Guzis
> Sent: 08 June 2016 22:51
> To: cct...@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: IO Selectric
> 
> I just did a quick check--the Yahoo golfballtypewritershop group does 
> have
the
> Louis Sander 1983 article from Micro magazine about converting an I/O 
> selectric for general computer use.
> 
> There's also a two parter on the I/O Selectric theory of operation.
> 
> You should have enough there to keep you busy.
> 
> --Chuck

Re: VAX-11/780 Board Set on eBait

[Noel Chiappa]

> From: Devin Davison

> It looked like a good batch of boards and i was holding out on finding
> a machine.

I hope that "a machine" wasn't 'an empty machine to plug them into' - because
AFAICT the chances are that happening are basically zero. (People seem to
save either i) complete machines, or ii) just the boards - apparently not
realizing that without the backplane, etc, the boards are only useful as
spares.)

> Any good place to get a 11/780 aside from watching the local scrap
> centers with my fingers crossed one will be there?

For some reasons, /780's seem to be pretty rare. I suspect it's a case of
'they were mostly all scrapped long ago in favour of later models which were
faster and smaller' (we see the same thing in other lines).


Don't get me wrong, I truly do fervently hope that you do find one somehow,
but one has to be realistic, I think. (I'd love to have an RF11, but I'm
pretty sure they almost all went to the big scrap-heap in the sky many moons
ago; so I'm not holding on, waiting for one to appear - rather, I'm getting
on with the stuff that _is_ still here.) Sorry to be such a downer... :-(

Noel

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

[Dave Wade]

> > What would you expect. Properly maintained, managed enterprise and
> > locked down Windows/7 is solid and reliable.
> > In the UK it is hard to use Linux in the "Public Sector" and in the UK
> > most Hospitals are Public Sector.
> > You can use Linux BUT you must have a support contract in place and
> > run a supported distro.
> > Having costed this it brings the price up way beyond that of a Windows
> > desktop.
> 
>  You can surely get a proper Linux support contract -- proper as in: if
you
> trigger a bug (which may be anything from a protocol violation, through a
> security hole, to a crash) in the kernel or other core component, then you
can
> log it with your support provider's bug tracking system and get it fixed
with an
> update release of the offending component provided within an agreed
> reasonable time frame, having live access to the bug status throughout the
> cycle.

You can but you will have to pay a subscription, and that will be expensive.
You will also have to stick to a supported release such as Red Enterprise
Hat.

> 
>  Now can you get it with Windows?  This is a serious question -- I've been
asking
> various IT people about it many times over the years, and only got evasive
> answers (if any), but perhaps I asked the wrong people.
> 

There are several options. Basic support is provided in the base licence,
i.e. you get the fixes. Some of the licencing options include additional
support calls. If you are big enough you will have a Technical Account
Manager (TAM) who will assist in managing these calls.  However, the bottom
line is you can always raise a per-incident support call on supported
software by ringing the support number and giving them a credit card. It
used to be £200. I have done this thee times I the last 20 years. Twice its
been a known problem and received a refund.

>   Maciej

Dave
G4UGM