Re: 1966-68 Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516 Console

[william degnan]

Bill Degnan
twitter: billdeg
vintagecomputer.net
On Oct 16, 2016 6:12 AM, "jim stephens"  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2016 4:14 PM, william degnan wrote:
>>
>> I recently came upon the console for a Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516, which is
>> the older brother of the Honeywell Kitchen computer (DDP-316).  Took a
lot
>> of photos:
>>
>> http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655
>>
>> Bill
>
> Very nice photos.  Reminds me of Sherman's 440 console a lot
>
> The two empty slots may be for connector cards for the cabling from the
panel into the system?
> thanks
> Jim

The schematics available include console data and power paths.  Basically
there is a Teletype interface and a computer interface, similar to a front
panel cable to the computer.  That's where all that happens, plus power
connectors.
B

Re: VCFed, the BBS!

[couryhouse]

I could care less about telnet... I want to make the teletype  clack!   Ed#


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 Original message 
From: Rod Smallwood  
Date: 10/16/16  18:39  (GMT-07:00) 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  
Subject: Re: VCFed, the BBS! 



On 16/10/2016 14:10, william degnan wrote:
> On Oct 16, 2016 5:52 AM, "Evan Koblentz"  wrote:
>>> I mean  please add 110  Baud  Evan!
>>
>> I was giving examples, not carved-in-stone specifications.
> If the system is simple it'll be easier to support, 110b is not, given the
> number of persons coming in from the other end so slowly.  No one barely
> has a phone line anymore as it is, most (95%) of the external traffic will
> be telnet.  If the bbs allows those few of us with phone lines to connect
> at 300 to 1200b to get to a handshake and resolve to a simple welcome
> screen for hardware testing purposes, that would be a good start. Get that
> running see what kind of traffic results, and plan phase ii from there.
>
> I imagine it will be best once this system is up and running that people
> call in on Sunday afternoon so visitors to the museum hear the inbound
> calls in real time like a sys op would running a bbs from his basement.
> Bill
Speaking as a former Sysop from the 1980's.
What would be nice is a couple of DEC Rainbows running FidoBBS and 
connected via a phone line simulator.
Enter your mail message on one and see it get transferred to the other 
where it can be read.

Rod Smallwood

-- 
*PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now*

One last epay for the day, TEC terminal

[jim stephens]

Since some need to possibly use current loop, I was searching and 
thought it useful to bring this to people's attention.  The TEC is also 
one of the terminals in the video I posted a few days ago related to 
"Jobs" if you care to look.  I've used these and at the time the only 
problem I had was dropping them on your foot, they are not light.


the vendor says that Bitsavers has the manual, which may make this a bit 
attractive as well, saving looking all over the place for 
documentation.  The screen doesn't look great, but might be usable w/o a 
huge amount of work.


Another thing that ones here may be able to use is that it has the video 
output option installed, so one could drive a modern monitor, or 
presentation projector in a display situation with this one.


I think the ones we had were a bit fancier, and had a block of 
indicators on one side or the other that you could blink, this one does not.


1972-TEC-440-Serial-Terminal-/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262674442502

no affiliation, just wish I had room for it, hope someone can use it.

i'll throttle myself for a few days unless I see a random 360/50 or so 
for sale so I am not bothering those who don't like these. Apologies in 
advance.


thanks
Jim

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[Steven M Jones]

On 10/16/2016 15:38, Glen Slick wrote:
> 
> Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
> removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.

By my previous viewing of the pics in that auction - yes, somebody
ripped the platters out of the HDD, breaking the arms the R/W heads were
mounted on. Said heads were left dangling.

IIRC the auction copy indicated something had been done to the PSU as
well. There was a close-up of some wires soldered to some spade lugs,
but I don't recall seeing a good photo of the PSU itself.

It didn't sell, so there's a good chance it'll be listed again in a few
days. They tend to give things a few shots before they stop relisting.

--S.

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[James B DiGriz]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:38:55 +
william degnan  wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Glen Slick 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Oct 16, 2016 3:19 PM, "jim stephens"  wrote:  
> > >
> > >
> > > 48 min to go at 315 PDT
> > >
> > > Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious
> > > it is an  
> > 8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.  
> > >
> > >  
> > Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-
> > Multi-user-Computer  
> > >
> > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878  
> >
> > I had one of those that I gave to Josh. It was mostly working at
> > the time. It was Z80 based.
> >
> > Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
> > removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.
> >  
> 
> I think this is one page from the manual related to the 8500 board
> vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000
> 

My ACS8000-10 was a Z80 system with MP/M installed. Working condition,
but lost along with an ADDS Regent 25 terminal, a DS50 disk, the left
hand door to a DS990 rack, and other items, to the higher imperatives of
crackheads needing scrap to peddle, some time back. 

Moral of the story is along the lines of "the squeaky wheel gets the
grease", or maybe "money talks but bs walks", when it comes to secure
storage or shop facilities, but then patronage always comes at a price,
too. C'est la guerre, er, vie. 

Sorry to wax philosophical. 

jbdigriz

Re: VCFed, the BBS!

[Rod Smallwood]

On 16/10/2016 14:10, william degnan wrote:

On Oct 16, 2016 5:52 AM, "Evan Koblentz"  wrote:

I mean  please add 110  Baud  Evan!


I was giving examples, not carved-in-stone specifications.

If the system is simple it'll be easier to support, 110b is not, given the
number of persons coming in from the other end so slowly.  No one barely
has a phone line anymore as it is, most (95%) of the external traffic will
be telnet.  If the bbs allows those few of us with phone lines to connect
at 300 to 1200b to get to a handshake and resolve to a simple welcome
screen for hardware testing purposes, that would be a good start. Get that
running see what kind of traffic results, and plan phase ii from there.

I imagine it will be best once this system is up and running that people
call in on Sunday afternoon so visitors to the museum hear the inbound
calls in real time like a sys op would running a bbs from his basement.
Bill

Speaking as a former Sysop from the 1980's.
What would be nice is a couple of DEC Rainbows running FidoBBS and 
connected via a phone line simulator.
Enter your mail message on one and see it get transferred to the other 
where it can be read.


Rod Smallwood

--
*PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now*

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[william degnan]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Glen Slick  wrote:

> On Oct 16, 2016 3:19 PM, "jim stephens"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > 48 min to go at 315 PDT
> >
> > Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious it is an
> 8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.
> >
> >
> Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-
> Multi-user-Computer
> >
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878
>
> I had one of those that I gave to Josh. It was mostly working at the time.
> It was Z80 based.
>
> Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
> removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.
>

I think this is one page from the manual related to the 8500 board
vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000

Re: Xerox 6085 IOP firmware

[Al Kossow]

oops.

anyway, just put it up on bitsavers/pdf/xerox/6085 as well

On 10/16/16 5:04 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
> On messftp/uploads/6085_IOP_Firmware.zip
> 
> I have been working on trying to get Smalltalk running on it, so I went 
> through and checked
> all of my IOP boards for different revs of firmware. There are only two that 
> I found, the later
> one added support for >80mb disks.
> 
> The 6085 has a 80186 instead of the 8085 in the 8010, and there is much more 
> code running on it
> than what was on the 8010.
> 

Xerox 6085 IOP firmware

[Al Kossow]

On messftp/uploads/6085_IOP_Firmware.zip

I have been working on trying to get Smalltalk running on it, so I went through 
and checked
all of my IOP boards for different revs of firmware. There are only two that I 
found, the later
one added support for >80mb disks.

The 6085 has a 80186 instead of the 8085 in the 8010, and there is much more 
code running on it
than what was on the 8010.

Re: Offer: HP-200 Series S/W

[Jason T]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Jason T  wrote:
> I have two boxed copies of Text Editor/200 for the HP 200-Series (aka
> 9826, 9836, 9816, etc.) and I probably don't need two of them, so I
> may as well pass one on:

And like that, it's claimed.  Thanks!

-j

Offer: HP-200 Series S/W

[Jason T]

I have two boxed copies of Text Editor/200 for the HP 200-Series (aka
9826, 9836, 9816, etc.) and I probably don't need two of them, so I
may as well pass one on:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13043699/pics/HP200_1.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13043699/pics/HP200_2.jpg

It's so new it's still in the shrink wrap, so I can only go by the
text on the back (second pic link) that it includes both 3.5" and
5.25" disks.  The HP Museum site has Teledisk images of the 3.5"s
already, so you may as well leave it in its shrink for display (though
I would like to see the documentation scanned, someday...)

http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=34

Who wants it for cost of shipping?  I'm in the 60070 ZIP.

-j

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Fred Cisin]

"This was real. This was more real even than reality. This was
history. It might not be true, but that had nothing to do with it." -
Terry Pratchett "Wyrd Sisters"
On the other hand, the wood top for the Northstar Horizon was
plywood from Ashby Lumber.

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:

Fred, you're forgetting the "People's World Computer", out of Berkeley,
I believe.  Wood case complete with brass plaque.  I had a chance years
ago to get one and I passed it up.
I still have the boot disk, however.


Don't know that one.

There was also "Community Memory" (Lee Felsenstein), which had a coin-op 
wood housed terminal, but the computer that it communicated with wasn't 
wood.


There were a LOT of tiny computer companies that got started in Berkeley, 
such as "Thinker Toys" (Morrow) and "Kentucky Fried Computers" 
(Northstar).  Once they started to grow, they moved out of Berkeley as 
fast as they could.

(My business never grew that much)

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[Glen Slick]

On Oct 16, 2016 3:19 PM, "jim stephens"  wrote:
>
>
> 48 min to go at 315 PDT
>
> Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious it is an
8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.
>
>
Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-Multi-user-Computer
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878

I had one of those that I gave to Josh. It was mostly working at the time.
It was Z80 based.

Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.

Altos system mislisted on Epay

[jim stephens]

48 min to go at 315 PDT

Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious it is 
an 8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.


Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-Multi-user-Computer

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Chuck Guzis]

On 10/16/2016 01:49 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:

> "This was real. This was more real even than reality. This was
> history. It might not be true, but that had nothing to do with it." -
> Terry Pratchett "Wyrd Sisters"
> 
> 
> On the other hand, the wood top for the Northstar Horizon was
> plywood from Ashby Lumber.

Fred, you're forgetting the "People's World Computer", out of Berkeley,
I believe.  Wood case complete with brass plaque.  I had a chance years
ago to get one and I passed it up.

I still have the boot disk, however.

--Chuck

DEC Legacy 2016

[Dave Wade]

A few pics. I know is a facebook link but you should be able to view without
signing up.

 

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10211268710019994.1073741835.14268
00809
 =1=7dbd490379

 

 

Dave Wade

G4UGM & EA7KAE

 

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Fred Cisin]

I don't think I have any other wooden computers yet. The seller had an 
interesting tale about the origin of the wood in these particular 
computers. As the legend goes, the father of one of the principals of 
Processor Technology had a contract to remove wharfs from along the 
Mississippi river, which happened to be made of black walnut. And thus, 
the SOL-20 received stylish black walnut side panels, hopefully without 
too much lingering wharf smell. I don't know if the tale is true, but I 
have chosen to believe it.


"This was real. This was more real even than reality. This was history. It 
might not be true, but that had nothing to do with it." - Terry Pratchett 
"Wyrd Sisters"



On the other hand, the wood top for the Northstar Horizon was plywood from 
Ashby Lumber.

HP 9826A on Epay

[Rik Bos]

I was jusy crawling ePay and found this one.

For who is interested, about one hour left, 1 bid $100,- at this moment.

I'm not the seller or affiliated with him or her.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-9826-Hewlett-Packard-With-Catalog-parts-Or-Repair
-Only-/172369586516
 

 

 

-Rik

 

RE: LA36, LA120 prints

[Rob Jarratt]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Richard
> Loken
> Sent: 15 October 2016 17:14
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: Re: LA36, LA120 prints
> 
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Al Kossow wrote:
> 
> > scanned.. no time to post-process right now If someone REALLY needs
> > this, LMK
> 
> My read of this is that have all the Sun-1 and DECwriter II and III docs
that
> matter so I will pass on all this paper to somebody else without thinking
> furter about scanning them.
> 
> As for the Data Printer Corporation docs, I never expected them to be a
> sought after item and I have one candidate so I will send them them there.
> 
> I have access to a lot of old Sun and DEC documentation, is there anything
> from those two sources that you are looking for?  (Aside from Sun proms
> which I do not have.)  I have until January 1 to find homes for a lot of
this
> stuff before it stops being available to me and starts to be destroyed.
> 


I would say that at least anything listed on Manx as not being online would
be worth saving.

Regards

Rob

Re: VCFed, the BBS!

[COURYHOUSE]

??? 
from the modem end  a Hayes  or anything else that   does   300/1200 also  
did  110  as I  remember as  that was under the bell 103  spec. (110 adn 300 
baud)  I  suppose  just a matter of  your  uart being able to   talk  to 
the modem at that  speed  ( which  should not be a  problem??!)
 
Ed#  _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)  
 
 
In a message dated 10/16/2016 6:10:10 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
billdeg...@gmail.com writes:

On Oct  16, 2016 5:52 AM, "Evan Koblentz"   wrote:
>>
>> I mean  please add 110  Baud   Evan!
>
>
> I was giving examples, not carved-in-stone  specifications.

If the system is simple it'll be easier to support,  110b is not, given the
number of persons coming in from the other end so  slowly.  No one barely
has a phone line anymore as it is, most (95%)  of the external traffic will
be telnet.  If the bbs allows those few  of us with phone lines to connect
at 300 to 1200b to get to a handshake and  resolve to a simple welcome
screen for hardware testing purposes, that  would be a good start. Get that
running see what kind of traffic results,  and plan phase ii from there.

I imagine it will be best once this  system is up and running that people
call in on Sunday afternoon so  visitors to the museum hear the inbound
calls in real time like a sys op  would running a bbs from his  basement.
Bill

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[Mark J. Blair]

The gunstock wood origin story sounds more plausible, but less fragrant.

-- 
Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

[j...@cimmeri.com]

On 10/16/2016 5:54 AM, Corey Cohen wrote:

On Oct 15, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Mark J. Blair  wrote:


I don't think I have any other wooden computers yet. The seller had an 
interesting tale about the origin of the wood in these particular computers. As 
the legend goes, the father of one of the principals of Processor Technology 
had a contract to remove wharfs from along the Mississippi river, which 
happened to be made of black walnut. And thus, the SOL-20 received stylish 
black walnut side panels, hopefully without too much lingering wharf smell. I 
don't know if the tale is true, but I have chosen to believe it.

--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/


That's a new story to me, I always heard they came across a bunch of gunstock 
wood and were looking for a project.  The wood is very good condition for 
reclaimed wood that made up a dock that was near water and in sun. I have seen 
old docks and that wood is good for kindling and not furniture.

Still would be good to try to confirm the story.

Cheers.
Corey


I agree.  Even if the wharfwood was 
useable, the amount of working
it would need over other forms would not 
usually be considered worth
the time, especially for such small 
pieces.   Also, walnut is not

a preferred wood for dock building.

- J.

Re: Getting out of the hobby

[Jon Elson]

On 10/15/2016 10:48 PM, Steven M Jones wrote:

On 10/15/2016 19:39, Chuck Guzis wrote:

My point blew right past you, apparently--yet I stated it as clearly as
I could.

I got your point, Chuck, one hundred percent. It's a depressing
perspective, but I acknowledge the truth of it in my own life. Almost
every day I'm reminded that nothing is as exciting as it used to be.

Well, I'm not sure.  In 1996 I built a laser photoplotter.  
See http://pico-systems.com/photoplot.html
for some description and a picture.  It ran on a Windows 3.1 
computer with an ISA bus DMA card.
I was still using it to make PC board artwork and stencils 
for solder paste up to 2014, but was worried the old PC 
would fail to boot someday.  The program that generated the 
raster image files was written in Turbo Pascal for Windows, 
run under a virtual machine, and I was not sure I could 
recompile it, either.  I used fpc (Free Pascal Compiler) to 
recompile it and clean up a bunch of things, then wrote a 
program that used run-length compression to compress the 
raster file.  I got a Beagle Bone computer, and wrote some 
code for the PRU to uncompress the run-length encoding on 
the fly, and emulate the DMA card on the PC.  I got all this 
working in a matter of weeks, and felt REALLY good!  I 
haven't done that sort of software/hardware project in quite 
some time.


Jon

Re: Comdyna GP-6 Analog Computer Repairs Needed

[dwight]

Where are you at and what seems to be the problem?

Dwight



From: cctalk  on behalf of Bill Phillips 

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 12:38:34 PM
To: cct...@classiccmp.org
Subject: Comdyna GP-6 Analog Computer Repairs Needed

I have a Comdyna GP-6 analog computer that I need repaired ASAP.  Anyone
available to help me out?

Bill Phillips
wcphill...@verizon.net

Re: VCFed, the BBS!

[william degnan]

On Oct 16, 2016 5:52 AM, "Evan Koblentz"  wrote:
>>
>> I mean  please add 110  Baud  Evan!
>
>
> I was giving examples, not carved-in-stone specifications.

If the system is simple it'll be easier to support, 110b is not, given the
number of persons coming in from the other end so slowly.  No one barely
has a phone line anymore as it is, most (95%) of the external traffic will
be telnet.  If the bbs allows those few of us with phone lines to connect
at 300 to 1200b to get to a handshake and resolve to a simple welcome
screen for hardware testing purposes, that would be a good start. Get that
running see what kind of traffic results, and plan phase ii from there.

I imagine it will be best once this system is up and running that people
call in on Sunday afternoon so visitors to the museum hear the inbound
calls in real time like a sys op would running a bbs from his basement.
Bill

Bootable 8" floppy needed for PDP-11/23

[Scott Baker]

Hi,

I have a PDP-11/23 system with a DSD-440 dual 8" floppy drive.
On reset, it prints:

28
START?

and waits for the operator to insert a bootable 8" floppy and type DY0.
The problem is I do not have a bootable 8" floppy.

The DSD-440 should be compatible with either RX01 or RX02.

Can anyone on this list help me out with a bootable 8" floppy?
I will gladly pay for the floppy + shippng costs.

Thanks,
Scott

PS: Pictures of the system can be found here:
http://sierracircuitdesign.ddns.net/temp/pdp11

Re: 1966-68 Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516 Console

[COURYHOUSE]

Nice  Find Bill!
 
The mention of the kitchen computer makes me
wonder how  many of those still exist
or... how many were sold?
 
Has anyone  dome a detailed  write up on it?
 
Ed#   _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)  
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/14/2016 4:14:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,   
writes:

I  recently came upon the console for a Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516, which is
the  older brother of the Honeywell Kitchen computer (DDP-316).  Took a  lot
of  photos:

http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655

Bill

Re: 1966-68 Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516 Console

[jim stephens]

On 10/14/2016 4:14 PM, william degnan wrote:

I recently came upon the console for a Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516, which is
the older brother of the Honeywell Kitchen computer (DDP-316).  Took a lot
of photos:

http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655

Bill

Very nice photos.  Reminds me of Sherman's 440 console a lot

The two empty slots may be for connector cards for the cabling from the 
panel into the system?

thanks
Jim

Comdyna GP-6 Analog Computer Repairs Needed

[Bill Phillips]

I have a Comdyna GP-6 analog computer that I need repaired ASAP.  Anyone
available to help me out?

Bill Phillips
wcphill...@verizon.net

1966-68 Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516 Console

[william degnan]

I recently came upon the console for a Honeywell u-COMP DDP-516, which is
the older brother of the Honeywell Kitchen computer (DDP-316).  Took a lot
of photos:

http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=655

Bill

Re: NWA auctions

[Todd Goodman]

* Noel Chiappa  [161013 16:37]:
> > From: Jim Stephens
> 
> > The two bay 11/45 went for twice the bid, since it was listed as 2 pcs
> > @ 1500 each
> 
> Yeah, I couldn't quite work that out - did it mean there were two mostly
> identical ones, and they only had pictures of one, or did it mean 'two racks'?
> 
>   Noel

Well, I have to confess that I won both those auctions.

I thought originally when I was bidding that it was two identical
systems (of two racks each) but now I think it just meant the two racks
pictured.  So I got half of what I was expecting for my bid.

Not to mention I really shouldn't have been bidding at all in the first
place.  It was just too tempting to pass up.

Todd

AWA - Raised Floor

[Cory Heisterkamp]

Someone asked yesterday if the raised floor was being sold. Looks like
bidding ends this morning.

https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/aspr/Quantity-static-flooring-throughout-building/32465315/LotDetail.asp?lid=32465315


-Cory

Re: Getting out of the hobby

[Todd Goodman]

* Jason Howe  [161014 10:15]:
[..SNIP..]
> Okay, I'll bite.   I'm in my mid-30's.  I've always loved older gear of 
> all types: A/V, computers, photographic, automotive, you name it.
> 
> For me, its the thrill of running something discarded or obsolete, 
> learning all I can about it, fixing it and then doing something useful 
> with it.
> 
> I'm currently writing this on an ATARI 800, booted to a "VT100" terminal 
> program off a 5 1/4 disk drive, talking through an original serial 
> interface box, direct to OPA0 on my VMS box.  The only modern piece of 
> hardware between me and the world right now is the internet connection.
> 
> I don't spend much on the pieces I aquire, but I tend to stay pretty 
> focused.  Similarly, I don't sell the stuff I pass on for very much 
> either.  I try to keep it in the community -- when I cut my pile in half 
> a couple years ago, I probably could have doubled or tripled my money 
> had I sold on ebay rather than to local club members.
> 
> All that having been said, I really really want to aquire a PDP-11 and 
> build an S100 machine and find a real VT100.  Given the price of these 
> things in the world right now...  And here is where I agree with the OP, 
> it sucks, competing between the scrappers and the heavy duty collectors 
> is just something this guy can't do.
> 
> Anyway, not sure this actually contributes to the conversation, but I 
> felt compelled to chime in at some point.
> 
> Best,
> 
> -- 
> Jason
> 
> Sent from my DEC 3000 running VMS 8.4

Hi Jason,

You might want to indicate where you are geographically as someone near
you might have a PDP-11?

As for building an S-100 system.  Check out the s100computers Google
group for newly designed S-100 boards available pretty much at cost as
long as you're up to sourcing parts and doing all the soldering
yourself.  Feel free to contact me via private email if you're
interested and I can point you to the group (and I have many of the
boards available as well.)

Todd

Re: PDP-11/23 System available for sale in Bedford, NH

[Steven Maresca]

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Stephen Pereira 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have my PDP-11/23 system for sale in Bedford, NH.
>
> Please see this message thread at VCFED.ORG  for my
> description:
>
> http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?54193-FS-Clean-
> fully-working-PDP-11-23-system  showthread.php?54193-FS-Clean-fully-working-PDP-11-23-system>
>
> I would greatly prefer local pickup, but if necessary, we can discuss what
> shipping to your location might cost, and how much time it might take me to
> get the equipment properly packaged for shipment.
>
> smp
> --
> Stephen M. Pereira
> Bedford, NH  03110
> KB1SXE
>
>
>
Stephen,

Many thanks again for offering your 11/23.  I wanted to publicly share my
appreciation here on the list. It was a pleasure meeting with you and
chatting, and I hope that you continue to enjoy your Rainbow, Altair,
FPGAs, and other fun acquisitions in the future.

Looking forward to a first boot,
Steve

RE: Where are the cctech archives before November 2014 ?

[Jason Scott]

I am happy to provide material support towards this project.

On Oct 12, 2016 10:29 PM, "Jay West"  wrote:

> Walter
>
> I think you need to ask a few questions before you toss that kind of
> nonsense out.
>
> For your info - this is a hobby. It is done in spare time. The time period
> you speak of - the archives have NOT been lost. Because unlike what you
> intone - we do care. Those archives are safe and sound, just not in a
> publicly accessible format. One of our kind listmembers has been working
> for eons to reconstruct the publicly viewable content from them.
>
> I will tell him that you are going to volunteer to help him.
>
> J
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Walter
> F.J. Mueller
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:22 PM
> To: cct...@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Where are the cctech archives before November 2014 ?
>
> Hi,
>
> I detected that links I had to previous postings where invalid. Looking at
>
>http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/
>
> I see that the archives before November 2014 are lost. When I look into
> the WayBackMachine I see
>
>https://web.archive.org/web/20141025062159/http://www.
> classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/
>https://web.archive.org/web/20150103042513/http://www.
> classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/
>
> that between October 25th. 2014 and January 3rd, 2015 some incident
> happened which wiped out the archives before November 2014.
>
> How comes that the 'classical computing' lost it's memory ??
>
>
>  With best regards,   Walter
>
>
> P.S.: It's a bit astonishing to me that a list like cctech, which is
>in some ways about history, has lost it's own history, and even
>doesn't seem to care about it.
>
>
>