Re: soviet resistor identification help and maybe lamps?

2020-03-07 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:

> trying to identify these soviet resistors anyone familiar with how they
> marked them i see 620 on these ones for the panel bulbs
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49633358106/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> want to test all the lamps with power but i dont know where to start with
> testing.
> 
> i see markings for 220V on the power feed plug
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49621260392/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> bulbs
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49623473996/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49623475146/in/dateposted-public/

Not mutch to see on your pictures..better photos?

The Lamps seems to be neon lampes and at 220V the only  resitor volue
that makes sense and has a 620 in it is 620K.
The resistors could be labeled with 620k or witn M620.

Regards,

Holm

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Re: soviet resistor identification help and maybe lamps?

2020-03-07 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
yea i do but its not giving me anything thats making sens the value jumps
all over the place. on the ones ive tried

lamps not sure how u tell what they are no marking on them rather tiny

join the discord u woulda seen it there


Re: soviet resistor identification help and maybe lamps?

2020-03-07 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk


On 2020-Mar-07, at 11:10 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:

> trying to identify these soviet resistors anyone familiar with how they
> marked them i see 620 on these ones for the panel bulbs
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49633358106/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> want to test all the lamps with power but i dont know where to start with
> testing.
> 
> i see markings for 220V on the power feed plug
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49621260392/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> bulbs
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49623473996/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49623475146/in/dateposted-public/

Are they neon lamps or filament (incandescent) lamps?

It would seem a little odd to be using neon lamps like that on a solid-state 
machine but it's not impossible.

As for R value, you have a multi-meter don't you?

Why are you being so shy, hiding the good stuff from us?:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49620991591/in/dateposted-public/

soviet resistor identification help and maybe lamps?

2020-03-07 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
trying to identify these soviet resistors anyone familiar with how they
marked them i see 620 on these ones for the panel bulbs
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49633358106/in/dateposted-public/

want to test all the lamps with power but i dont know where to start with
testing.

i see markings for 220V on the power feed plug
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49621260392/in/dateposted-public/

bulbs
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49623473996/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/49623475146/in/dateposted-public/


Re: Is this IBM keyboard compatible with the IBM 3279?

2020-03-07 Thread sales--- via cctalk

On 2020-03-03 10:48, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
The connector is the correct one. It has four jumpers that could be 
used

for setting one of the keyboard types using the KB ident lines.

https://i.imgur.com/PhfvKaV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VPT38cK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nN1gtFu.jpg

Which terminal was it used for originally?

/Mattis


https://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Model_F

It appears to be from a 3101?

Cindy


Re: Printer Transparencies?

2020-03-07 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On March 7, 2020 at 4:08 PM Zane Healy via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Here is a strange question. Does anyone happen to know how long unused Laser 
> Printer and Ink Jet transparencies last? Do they go bad, or break down? I 
> have a stack of them, still in the boxes, a lot are unopened. I scavenged 
> them about 10 years ago, when people were getting rid of them.
> I wanted them for a Photography Project, that I’ve never had time to try. At 
> this point, I’d like to know if I’m wasting space storing them.
> Zane


I have printed on some after about 7 years of having an open box.  Never had 
any problems.  I also have some that were printed maybe 15 years ago that don't 
seem to have degraded at all.  But that is only from looking at them and what 
is printed on them.  They are PCB layouts with 10 mil traces which seem to have 
held up well.  The material seems the same as fresh out of the box.  My guess 
is they would still be printable.






"The names of global variables should start with// "  -- https://isocpp.org


Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 3/7/2020 5:23 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:

On 3/7/20 9:10 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

On Mar 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk  
wrote:


Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...

Mike


If VSI doesn’t have the ability to issue VAX versions of the VMS license, will 
it be possible to buy VAX licenses?  I’m curious as about five years ago, I had 
to help buy VAX/VMS licenses for a project.


My understanding is if something doesn't change to allow VSI to
issue VAX licenses there will be no way to legally run a VMS on
a VAX as HPE will be out of the business completely.

bill


I would think that those that already have legal VAX PAKs/licenses could still 
run them. It's just no *NEW* PAKs could be legally generated.

--
John H. Reinhardt




Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

On 3/7/20 9:10 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

On Mar 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk  
wrote:


Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...

Mike


If VSI doesn’t have the ability to issue VAX versions of the VMS license, will 
it be possible to buy VAX licenses?  I’m curious as about five years ago, I had 
to help buy VAX/VMS licenses for a project.


My understanding is if something doesn't change to allow VSI to
issue VAX licenses there will be no way to legally run a VMS on
a VAX as HPE will be out of the business completely.

bill



Printer Transparencies?

2020-03-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
Here is a strange question.  Does anyone happen to know how long unused Laser 
Printer and Ink Jet transparencies last?  Do they go bad, or break down?  I 
have a stack of them, still in the boxes, a lot are unopened.  I scavenged them 
about 10 years ago, when people were getting rid of them.  

I wanted them for a Photography Project, that I’ve never had time to try.  At 
this point, I’d like to know if I’m wasting space storing them.

Zane





Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:

For those interested, HPE has finally, formally announced the end of their 
participation in the OpenVMS Hobbyist Program.  A number of people have 
received the below message from HPE, probably everyone they have on record 
as having current Hobbyist licenses.


I humbly suggest that HPE might issue VAX hobbyist licenses that don't 
expire since they and VSI don't have a significant financial interest in it. 
Removing the expiration date does not remove any obligation from the licence 
holder and does not remove HPE's rights as the owner of the software.


Alpha and Itanium licenses are a differant matter, there is still a market
for them and development continuues to some degree.

I only run an Alpha hobby machine so I have nothing to gain from a lifetime
VAX license.  I have both PMDF and Multinet licenses that don't expire and
I paid honest money for them but I doubt I can afford the price of a VMS
license.
--
  Richard Loken VE6BSV: "...underneath those tuques we wear,
  Athabasca, Alberta Canada   : our heads are naked!"
  ** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black


Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
One of the machines I have still has it's permanent license (along with 
the pretty paper license) for the OS.  It's all the auxiliary packages 
you need to do anything useful that are going to be the headache.


--Jason

On 3/7/20 9:27 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:



On Mar 7, 2020, at 9:07 AM, John H. Reinhardt 
 wrote:

On 3/7/2020 8:10 AM, Zane Healy wrote:

On Mar 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:

Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...

Mike

If VSI doesn’t have the ability to issue VAX versions of the VMS license, will 
it be possible to buy VAX licenses?  I’m curious as about five years ago, I had 
to help buy VAX/VMS licenses for a project.
Zane

On the HECnet list, David Moylan had sent an inqujiry to the OpenVMS Customer 
Lab and got this as a response

"  Users who wish to avail of HPE OpenVMS long term licenses are encouraged to

  purchase permanent licenses at standard prices. You may contact [Fellman, Jon]

   for the same."


So this HP person, Jon Fellman looks like the person to ask about buying an OpenVMS VAX 
license.  I've sent him an email but I don't expect a response until Monday at least.  
The "standard prices" part doesn't' look encouraging.

--
John H. Reinhardt
  
The thing is, most people don’t know they need a real VAX/VMS license, until they find themselves doing something that will require it at some point in the future.  It’s not a normal need, but it is one I’ve seen.  I sure can’t justify buying any right now.


Zane




Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk



> On Mar 7, 2020, at 9:07 AM, John H. Reinhardt 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 3/7/2020 8:10 AM, Zane Healy wrote:
>> On Mar 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
>>> proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
>>> issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
>>> legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
>>> we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...
>>> 
>>> Mike
>> If VSI doesn’t have the ability to issue VAX versions of the VMS license, 
>> will it be possible to buy VAX licenses?  I’m curious as about five years 
>> ago, I had to help buy VAX/VMS licenses for a project.
>> Zane
> 
> On the HECnet list, David Moylan had sent an inqujiry to the OpenVMS Customer 
> Lab and got this as a response
> 
> "  Users who wish to avail of HPE OpenVMS long term licenses are encouraged to
> 
>  purchase permanent licenses at standard prices. You may contact [Fellman, 
> Jon]
> 
>   for the same."
> 
> 
> So this HP person, Jon Fellman looks like the person to ask about buying an 
> OpenVMS VAX license.  I've sent him an email but I don't expect a response 
> until Monday at least.  The "standard prices" part doesn't' look encouraging.
> 
> -- 
> John H. Reinhardt
 
The thing is, most people don’t know they need a real VAX/VMS license, until 
they find themselves doing something that will require it at some point in the 
future.  It’s not a normal need, but it is one I’ve seen.  I sure can’t justify 
buying any right now.

Zane




RE: Can't Select a Custom Device in Eagle

2020-03-07 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Never mind, I just realised there was a little "+" sign well away from the
symbol that allowed me to select it. It looks like the symbol is somehow
much bigger that how I have drawn it. I should be able to work it out now.

 

Regards

 

Rob

 

From: Rob Jarratt  
Sent: 07 March 2020 17:12
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts (cctalk@classiccmp.org)

Subject: Can't Select a Custom Device in Eagle

 

I have been using Eagle to reverse engineer a PSU schematic. I decided I
needed to make a custom device in Eagle for the transformer. I have done
this and it seems to be fine, except that when I put the symbol on a
schematic, after I have confirmed its position, I can't select it, so I
can't move it or anything.

 

I have done some web searches but I can't find anything about this. Anyone
know what the problem might be?

 

I am using the free version, and I am on version 7.2.0. Looks like later
versions are subscription only and I am reluctant to do that because they
could take away access at any time.

 

Thanks

 

Rob



Re: Can't Select a Custom Device in Eagle

2020-03-07 Thread alan--- via cctalk
It sounds like when you created the symbol in the library editor, you 
didn't place what you drew near the center anchor point in the sheet.  
Now that that device is place on a real schematic sheet, it's origin 
point is located somewhere far away from where you are trying to select.


Both for symbols and packages, Eagle's selection tool only selects the 
parts' original cross hairs.


-Alan

On 2020-03-07 12:12, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
I have been using Eagle to reverse engineer a PSU schematic. I decided 
I
needed to make a custom device in Eagle for the transformer. I have 
done

this and it seems to be fine, except that when I put the symbol on a
schematic, after I have confirmed its position, I can't select it, so I
can't move it or anything.



I have done some web searches but I can't find anything about this. 
Anyone

know what the problem might be?



I am using the free version, and I am on version 7.2.0. Looks like 
later
versions are subscription only and I am reluctant to do that because 
they

could take away access at any time.



Thanks



Rob


Can't Select a Custom Device in Eagle

2020-03-07 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I have been using Eagle to reverse engineer a PSU schematic. I decided I
needed to make a custom device in Eagle for the transformer. I have done
this and it seems to be fine, except that when I put the symbol on a
schematic, after I have confirmed its position, I can't select it, so I
can't move it or anything.

 

I have done some web searches but I can't find anything about this. Anyone
know what the problem might be?

 

I am using the free version, and I am on version 7.2.0. Looks like later
versions are subscription only and I am reluctant to do that because they
could take away access at any time.

 

Thanks

 

Rob



Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 3/7/2020 8:10 AM, Zane Healy wrote:

On Mar 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:


Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...

Mike


If VSI doesn’t have the ability to issue VAX versions of the VMS license, will 
it be possible to buy VAX licenses?  I’m curious as about five years ago, I had 
to help buy VAX/VMS licenses for a project.

Zane




On the HECnet list, David Moylan had sent an inqujiry to the OpenVMS Customer 
Lab and got this as a response

"  Users who wish to avail of HPE OpenVMS long term licenses are encouraged to

  purchase permanent licenses at standard prices. You may contact [Fellman, Jon]

   for the same."


So this HP person, Jon Fellman looks like the person to ask about buying an OpenVMS VAX 
license.  I've sent him an email but I don't expect a response until Monday at least.  
The "standard prices" part doesn't' look encouraging.

--
John H. Reinhardt


Re: Good picture of a S360.

2020-03-07 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/3/20 7:24 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
> From Imgur. The question: How the heck can you wear stiletto heels in a
> data center?
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/rakM62J.jpg


That photo must be making the rounds; I found it in an ED article by
Bill Wong in my inbox today:

https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/embedded-revolution/article/21123625/cobol-contracts-and-clarification

--Chuck


Re: 2.11bsd rogue can't build

2020-03-07 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:25 PM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the leads, everyone!
>
> I made a little progress: I did read enough about ld to get it to load
> the .o files from the initial cc run into a separate I&d overlaid
> executable.  But when I execute it, it gives me Segmentation fault
> (core dumped).. There was one complaint of Undefined during the ld run
> even though I said -lc_p (and validated that _environ is in that .a
> file using nm.
>
> Undefined:
> _environ
>
> but it seemed to succeed in building the executable despite that.
> Well, I'm guessing it succeeded because the output file rogue is
> sitting there afterwards and has been marked executable, which,
> according to the man page, ld doesn't mark that way unless it
> succeeds.
>
> [35] root--> ld -t -v -M -i -X -x init.o main.o level.o score.o
> machdep.o inventory.o -Z hit.o monster.o -Z message.o move.o -Z
> object.o pack.o play.o -Z curses.o random.o ring.o -Z room.o -Z save.o
> spec_hit.o -Z throw.o trap.o -Z use.o zap.o -Y -o rogue -lcurses
> -ltermlib -lc_p
>
> [36] root--> size rogue
> textdatabss dec hex
> 44928   18554   10520   74002   12112   total text: 88704
> overlays: 7616,6144,7488,1856,4352,6144,3840,6336
>
> [37] root--> ./rogue
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>
> See anything amiss in my process?  That Undefined _environ during ld
> still bugs me.
> Is the next step dissecting the program or its core with adb to find
> what's wrong?
>

You should check to see if crt saves the third argument to start/main.
That's what environ is. But you'll need to look at the code.

src/lib/libc/gen/getenv expects environ to be a global variable:

extern char **environ;


and if getenv is called, that may be where that comes from. It's defined in
pdp/csu/crt0.s:_environ: .=.+2 /   others
where it also looks to be set. Is crt0.o not getting pulled in for some
reason?

Warner


Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Mar 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk  
wrote:
> 
> Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
> proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
> issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
> legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
> we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...
> 
> Mike

If VSI doesn’t have the ability to issue VAX versions of the VMS license, will 
it be possible to buy VAX licenses?  I’m curious as about five years ago, I had 
to help buy VAX/VMS licenses for a project.

Zane




Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread Michael Kerpan via cctalk
Well that's sad news. Since VMS Software may or may not ever launch a
proper hobbyist program and has stated that they don't have the ability to
issue licenses for VAX versions of VMS, that means we have until 2021 to
legally use VMS on the vintage hardware or emulations. After that, I guess
we will have to either sail the seven seas or learn to love 4.3BSD...

Mike

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 6:33 AM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> For those interested, HPE has finally, formally announced the end of their
> participation in the OpenVMS Hobbyist Program.  A number of people have
> received the below message from HPE, probably everyone they have on record
> as having current Hobbyist licenses.
>
>
> If you have any current or future ( at least before the end of 2021 )
> interest in Hobbyist licenses for any version of OpenVMS from 5.0 through
> 8.4 for VAX ( only up to 7.3) or Alpha and Itanium, then register now.  HPE
> is looking to find out how many are interested in Hobbyist offerings and
> even though the new license will be good through 2021, I don't expect them
> to be generating them past the end of 2020 and maybe sooner.
>
> Register for Hobbyist PAKs at one of the following (I suggest the HPE
> address first):
>
> https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548
>
> http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php
> Note the underscore between hobbyist and registration in
> hobbyist_registration.
>
> One Hobbyist user reports this:
>
>
> I’ve just received an update from the OpenVMS Customer lab:
>
> Here’s the message from the OpenVMS team.  The idea was that hobbyists
> would visit the site and renew their licenses, and in response, we would
> provide the final set of licenses,
>
> explaining the scenario:
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>As we approach the end of the HPE OpenVMS V8.4 standard support
> period, HPE
>
>plans to conclude the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program.
>
>The HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses we are issuing in 2020 will be
> the last set.
>
>Subsequently, HPE will not issue new HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses.
> Attached
>
>is the final set of the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses. These final
> licenses
>
>are valid through December 31st, 2021. We hope that this additional
> validity
>
>period will enable users to plan for the future.
>
>Users who wish to avail of HPE OpenVMS long term licenses are
> encouraged to
>
>purchase permanent licenses at standard prices. You may contact
> [Fellman, Jon]
>
>mailto:jon.fell...@hpe.com>> for the same.
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> Cheers, Wiz!!
>
>
> John H. Reinhardt
>
>
> *From:*owner-hec...@update.uu.se [mailto:owner-hec...@update.uu.se] *On
> Behalf Of *David Moylan
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 March 2020 4:14 PM
> *To:* hec...@update.uu.se
> *Subject:* [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just received the e-mail below. I’ve hunted around all the various
> Hobbyist locations and licensing pages and can’t find any additional
> information.
>
> I’ve already replied back to ask what the impact of Hobbyist renewal
> licensing will be. I have no further information at this stage.
>
> Have others received this as well? Does anyone have any further knowledge
> on this?
>
> I can see a few people have forwarded/posted the same message on
> comp.os.vms.
>
> Cheers, Wiz!!
>
> *From:*OpenVMS Customer Lab [mailto:openvmscustomer...@hpe.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 7 March 2020 3:13 PM
> *Cc:* OpenVMS Customer Lab
> *Subject:* OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification
>
> Dear HPE OpenVMS hobbyist,
>
> This is to inform you that HPE is concluding the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist
> license program in alignment with the HPE OpenVMS support roadmap.
>
> If you wish to understand more details, please reach out to us at the
> earliest through the usual license renewal webpage.
>
> Thank you.
>
> HPE OpenVMS team
>
>


HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

For those interested, HPE has finally, formally announced the end of their 
participation in the OpenVMS Hobbyist Program.  A number of people have 
received the below message from HPE, probably everyone they have on record as 
having current Hobbyist licenses.


If you have any current or future ( at least before the end of 2021 ) interest 
in Hobbyist licenses for any version of OpenVMS from 5.0 through 8.4 for VAX ( 
only up to 7.3) or Alpha and Itanium, then register now.  HPE is looking to 
find out how many are interested in Hobbyist offerings and even though the new 
license will be good through 2021, I don't expect them to be generating them 
past the end of 2020 and maybe sooner.

Register for Hobbyist PAKs at one of the following (I suggest the HPE address 
first):

https://www.hpe.com/h41268/live/index_e.aspx?qid=24548

http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php
   Note the underscore between hobbyist and registration in 
hobbyist_registration.

One Hobbyist user reports this:


   I’ve just received an update from the OpenVMS Customer lab:

   Here’s the message from the OpenVMS team.  The idea was that hobbyists would 
visit the site and renew their licenses, and in response, we would provide the 
final set of licenses,

   explaining the scenario:

   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

  As we approach the end of the HPE OpenVMS V8.4 standard support period, 
HPE

  plans to conclude the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program.

  The HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses we are issuing in 2020 will be the last 
set.

  Subsequently, HPE will not issue new HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses. 
Attached

  is the final set of the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses. These final 
licenses

  are valid through December 31st, 2021. We hope that this additional 
validity

  period will enable users to plan for the future.

  Users who wish to avail of HPE OpenVMS long term licenses are encouraged 
to

  purchase permanent licenses at standard prices. You may contact [Fellman, 
Jon]

  mailto:jon.fell...@hpe.com>> for the same.

   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

   Cheers, Wiz!!


John H. Reinhardt


*From:*owner-hec...@update.uu.se [mailto:owner-hec...@update.uu.se] *On Behalf 
Of *David Moylan
*Sent:* Saturday, 7 March 2020 4:14 PM
*To:* hec...@update.uu.se
*Subject:* [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

Hi all,

Just received the e-mail below. I’ve hunted around all the various Hobbyist 
locations and licensing pages and can’t find any additional information.

I’ve already replied back to ask what the impact of Hobbyist renewal licensing 
will be. I have no further information at this stage.

Have others received this as well? Does anyone have any further knowledge on 
this?

I can see a few people have forwarded/posted the same message on comp.os.vms.

Cheers, Wiz!!

*From:*OpenVMS Customer Lab [mailto:openvmscustomer...@hpe.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, 7 March 2020 3:13 PM
*Cc:* OpenVMS Customer Lab
*Subject:* OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification

Dear HPE OpenVMS hobbyist,

This is to inform you that HPE is concluding the HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license 
program in alignment with the HPE OpenVMS support roadmap.

If you wish to understand more details, please reach out to us at the earliest 
through the usual license renewal webpage.

Thank you.

HPE OpenVMS team



Re: RDI BriteLite

2020-03-07 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:23:30 +0200
> From: Plamen Mihaylov 
> Subject: RDI BriteLite
>
>  Does anyone have such machine ? I miss the PSU adapter as well as the Sbus
> framebuffer which connects the LCD panel to the mainboard. Any info is
> appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> Plamen
>

I have several BriteLites, including IPC, IPX, and LX versions.
I will see what power supplies go with them.
The Sbus video board is something special for the LCD panel.

-- 
Michael Thompson


Re: RDI BriteLite

2020-03-07 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk



According to the label, the BriteLite IPX power input is 18V 3.1A.

alan

On 3/6/20 1:07 AM, Plamen Mihaylov wrote:
Alan, thank you for the photos. I have no idea it was a proprietary 
framebuffer. Do you remember what voltage the RDI uses ?


Best regards,
Plamen

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:04 PM Alan Perry via cctech 
mailto:cct...@classiccmp.org>> wrote:




On 3/5/20 7:44 AM, Alan Perry via cctech wrote:
 >
 >
 >> On Mar 5, 2020, at 05:20, Plamen Mihaylov via cctech
mailto:cct...@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
 >>
 >>  Does anyone have such machine ? I miss the PSU adapter as well
as the Sbus
 >> framebuffer which connects the LCD panel to the mainboard. Any
info is
 >> appreciated.
 >
 >
 > I had one, but sold it to someone on this list last year.
 >
 > I used a generic power supply, one with multiple cord tips and
selectable output. However, when I exhibited the BriteLite and had
it running all day, the power supply died after a day and a half.
 >
 > Good luck on finding a frame buffer for it. I don’t remember the
details about it, but I took lots of photos of it.

Here is a Flickr album of the insides of what was my BriteLite IPX,
including the LCD frame buffer - https://flic.kr/s/aHsmLNnBuU

alan

 >
 > alan
 >
 >
 >>
 >> Best regards,
 >> Plamen
 >