ancient 5" SMD message

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

5.25" SMD drives


From: David C. Jenner 
Date: Tue Jun 24 19:28:00 2003

I have complete docs (User's Manual and Reference Manual, both
very long) for both of the Seagate drives (the manuals cover
both). And a stock of the 1.2GB drives, including power supply
and cables. And QD33 Qbus adapters. I'll be glad to entertain
offers for these offline, especially trades for PDP-11 equipment.

Dave

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wonder if

- he is still on the list
- still has the manuals

Re: Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROM collection archived anywhere?

[Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk]

On Thu, 1 Oct 2020, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:

> > As one example of something that I was recently unable to find online
> > anywhere is a copy of either of these, which might have been available
> > on some of the Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROMs:
> > 297372 16-Mbit Flash Product Family User’s Manual
> > 297508 FLASHBuilder Design Resource Tool
> > Those are mentioned in various Intel flash memory datasheets and
> > databooks from around the 1995 timeframe.
> 
>  Sadly neither seems to be among the files I have copied.  I could yet 
> check Intel Dec 1995 Data on Demand discs I happen to have, and do have 
> here, but they are cumbersome to handle as they use a proprietary format 
> requiring a DOS app to access, and yet more hassle to get anything 
> exported (assuming I can recall how I did that many years ago), so it'll 
> take a little.

 That was fun.  I have since reconfigured the box a little hardware-wise, 
but all the configured DOS sofware setup remained the same, so things not 
quite worked, not at least all of them.  I ended up digging out my old 
serial mouse I had to replace the burnt out IR transmitters in a couple 
years ago and chasing 5.25" Windows 3.1 installation disks so as to move 
the mouse to COM2 (COM1 has been since consumed for the serial console 
used to control the system remotely when it runs Linux, its usual 
application).

 Anyway I managed to get Data on Demand apps going, both the DOS one, and 
also the Windows 3.1 one.  The latter is important as it allows one print 
individual document pages to PostScript, which can then then be further 
processed for something more useful.

 Unfortunately the bad news is neither document has been included in the 
set.  I did a little research and I suspect 297372 was one of the paid 
books; ISTR that was usually the case with documents Intel referred to as 
"manuals" rather than "databooks", "datasheets", "application notes" or 
"specification updates".  Paid books were naturally not included with 
documentation available free of charge.  The 1995 Flash Memory databook 
available online:



refers to 297372 as: "28F016SA User's Manual" or "28F016SA 16-Mbit 
FlashFile Memory User's Manual".  The part's corresponding datasheet is 
290489 and I have revs 3, 4, 5 available if that would help.

 I could yet check old printed Intel literature guides for any price 
quoted for the two documents to confirm or deny my suspicion, however just 
as the Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROMs I have them elsewhere.

 Now the FLASHBuilder is a software package, so it may yet be there on the 
Insight CD-ROMs, but it'll have to wait until I get at them unless someone 
else chimes in.

 Sorry to help so little if at all.

  Maciej

Re: Intel Developers' Insight CD-ROM collection archived anywhere?

[Glen Slick via cctalk]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 6:55 PM Maciej W. Rozycki  wrote:
>
>  Sadly neither seems to be among the files I have copied.  I could yet
> check Intel Dec 1995 Data on Demand discs I happen to have, and do have
> here, but they are cumbersome to handle as they use a proprietary format
> requiring a DOS app to access, and yet more hassle to get anything
> exported (assuming I can recall how I did that many years ago), so it'll
> take a little.

If you have some Intel "Data on Demand" CD-ROMs it would be nice if
.ISO images of those could be captured and uploaded somewhere. Then
leave it up to anyone interested to deal with extracting documents
from them.

I found this document while looking online. It's not clear to me if
that is a list of documents that are contained on the December 1995
"Data on Demand" CD-ROMs or if some of those are only available
elsewhere.

http://alt.ife.tugraz.at/datashts/intel/litguide.pdf

Re: Zuse Z4 - Oldest Surviving Computer in the World - Lost in the archives

[dwight via cctalk]

It is going to need a lot of contact cleaning.
The one thing I like is the carry design the Zuse used. Really fast for relays 
but not of much use for solid state.
Dwight


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cctech 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 6:07 AM
To: cct...@classiccmp.org 
Subject: Zuse Z4 - Oldest Surviving Computer in the World - Lost in the archives

A few days ago, it was published on BLOC@CACM that a lost user manual
for the Z4 and notes on flutter calculations was found in the ETH Zürich
archives. See:
https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/247521-discovery-user-manual-of-the-oldest-surviving-computer-in-the-world/fulltext

Zuse Z4, a relay computer of 1945,  however, due to lack of
documentation, its functionality was largely unknown. Now a manual for
the machine has appeared at ETH Zurich, that was buried in the archives.
And this in the digital age ...

Thomas

Zuse Z4 - Oldest Surviving Computer in the World - Lost in the archives

[osi.superboard via cctalk]

A few days ago, it was published on BLOC@CACM that a lost user manual 
for the Z4 and notes on flutter calculations was found in the ETH Zürich 
archives. See:

https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/247521-discovery-user-manual-of-the-oldest-surviving-computer-in-the-world/fulltext

Zuse Z4, a relay computer of 1945,  however, due to lack of 
documentation, its functionality was largely unknown. Now a manual for 
the machine has appeared at ETH Zurich, that was buried in the archives. 
And this in the digital age ...


Thomas