Re: Looking for the numeric pad "1" key on VT-100 vintage keyboard

2021-03-03 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den tors 4 mars 2021 kl 08:06 skrev Marc Howard via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org>:

> Does anyone out there have a "1" key (the one in the numeric keypad, not
> the 1 / ! key) that they are willing to sell: me?  I saw a couple of
> partial keyboards go fairly cheap on ePay a couple of months ago but didn't
> see it until it was sold.
>


Here are two VT100 keyboards. One has the "1" key on the numeric keypad.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/294035271047

/Mattis


>
> Thanks,
>
> Marc Howard
>


Looking for the numeric pad "1" key on VT-100 vintage keyboard

2021-03-03 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
Does anyone out there have a "1" key (the one in the numeric keypad, not
the 1 / ! key) that they are willing to sell: me?  I saw a couple of
partial keyboards go fairly cheap on ePay a couple of months ago but didn't
see it until it was sold.

Thanks,

Marc Howard


Re: RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?

2021-03-03 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
I'll chip in too if you won it and can copy the stuff off.

Marc

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 3:44 PM Ron Pool via cctalk 
wrote:

> No boards for me, but I'll PayPal you a bit towards your purchase.
>
> On 3/3/21, 2:14 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk" <
> cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org on behalf of cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On 3/3/21 11:11 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> > On 3/3/21 10:42 AM, Lee Gleason via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >>The auction starts at  more than I have in my computer budget
> this month
> > I went ahead and bought these, but paypal contributions to my email
> would be helpful
> > this is way more than I can afford as well.
>
> I have a set of RK11-D boards w/o backplane
> that I'll need to sell to help cover the cost if
> anyone wants to make an offer.
>
>
>


Re: Intellec MCS-8 8008 monitor program ROM files

2021-03-03 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
FWIW, I have an MCS-8 User Manual I was about to give away.
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPxTeFNI5YY-Ig_xZihpEyeaVjivCjDrU1_vmOa
If either of you want it, it's yours.

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 11:48 AM Bill Degnan via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Although this may not be what you're looking for, it's in the ballpark
> (newer version?):  Note the board part number and compare with yours, I
> don't see off hand which board exactly you have.
> https://www.vintagecomputer.net/intel/IMM_6-26/
> Bill
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 11:25 AM Jon Elson via cctech <
> cct...@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On 03/03/2021 07:17 AM, Roland via cctech wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > > Does anyone have the Intellec MCS-8 8008 system monitor ROM files?
> > > According to the Intellec MCS-8 manual the System Monitor is contained
> > in five 1702A PROMs.My ROMs have a disk loader, but the disks system is
> > long gone...
> > >
> > > Any papertape software is also welcome for this machine!
> > > Thanks in advance!Regards, Roland Huisman
> > >
> > Wow, I have an old 8008-based embedded device I built back
> > in 1976. It has the MCS 8008 CPU board, 1702 EPROM board and
> > a RAM board.  I never had the system monitor, I did
> > everything on that project "bare iron".  I think I did
> > development with a PDP-11 and a homebrew cross assembler.
> >
> > Jon
> >
>


digital group's Richard Bemis

2021-03-03 Thread Brad H via cctalk
Hi there,

I am working on a 30 minute historical video about the digital group.  For 
source material there isn't a ton of stuff out there unfortunately and much of 
the account of what happened to the company comes from the late Dr. Robert 
Suding.  In his account, Suding sort of points fingers at Richard "Dick" Bemis 
for mismanagement of the company.  

I am wondering if anyone knows what became of Mr. Bemis after his stint running 
dg.  Apart from a couple of (slightly snarky) letters to Dr. Dobb's Journal 
when dg was still operational, there's literally no trace of him on the 
internet.  If he's still around I'd love to get his side of the story to 
balance things out, or at least find out what he did afterwards.

Thought I'd write here in case anyone knew.

Brad


Re: RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?

2021-03-03 Thread Ron Pool via cctalk
No boards for me, but I'll PayPal you a bit towards your purchase.

On 3/3/21, 2:14 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk" 
 wrote:

On 3/3/21 11:11 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> On 3/3/21 10:42 AM, Lee Gleason via cctalk wrote:
> 
>>The auction starts at  more than I have in my computer budget this 
month
> I went ahead and bought these, but paypal contributions to my email would 
be helpful
> this is way more than I can afford as well.

I have a set of RK11-D boards w/o backplane
that I'll need to sell to help cover the cost if
anyone wants to make an offer.




Re: PIC programmers? More generic programmer? Port?

2021-03-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/3/21 2:15 PM, Anders Nelson wrote:
> I was a field application engineer for Microchip from 2008-2011, making
> POCs for big name customers in the bay area using 8, 16 and 32-bit PICs.
> 
> You will likely find that Microchip support is awful, even if their
> products are pretty neat. There was an Arduino port for PICs called
> "ChipKit" but I don't know if that's still being developed.
> 
> The PicKit 3 is decent, if pretty slow. The ICD3 and later versions are
> good. MPLAB X is excellent IMO. I should still hold a design partner
> discount so if you want to get some tools, contact me offline and I'll
> see if I can save you some money.
> 
> That all said, I'm a huge fan of the STM32 ARM devices and the community
> is nearly as good as Nordic, and what Atmel used to be before it was
> acquired by Microchip.

I remember getting a PIC32 Uno32 from Digilent (long given away) that
featured a Arduino-compatible library.   It was interesting for the time.

https://reference.digilentinc.com/reference/microprocessor/uno32/start

Digilent (wisely) seems to have dropped the MCU line of boards
completely and now concentrates on FPGA.

But the array of ARM-Cortex boards out there is wonderful.  I've still
got a parts box full of various AVR and PIC MCUs, but nowadays, I find
myself reaching for an STM32 ARM.   STM's documentation can be daunting,
if you're interested in things at the low level, however.  1000 pages
seems to be about the minimum ante in terms of technical documentation,
but then there's a lot of functionality built into those bits of fused sand.

--Chuck


Re: PIC programmers? More generic programmer? Port?

2021-03-03 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
I was a field application engineer for Microchip from 2008-2011, making
POCs for big name customers in the bay area using 8, 16 and 32-bit PICs.

You will likely find that Microchip support is awful, even if their
products are pretty neat. There was an Arduino port for PICs called
"ChipKit" but I don't know if that's still being developed.

The PicKit 3 is decent, if pretty slow. The ICD3 and later versions are
good. MPLAB X is excellent IMO. I should still hold a design partner
discount so if you want to get some tools, contact me offline and I'll see
if I can save you some money.

That all said, I'm a huge fan of the STM32 ARM devices and the community is
nearly as good as Nordic, and what Atmel used to be before it was acquired
by Microchip.

--
Anders Nelson


On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:26 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 3/3/21 10:47 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> >  > Any gotchas with the PICKit-3 clones out there? I have the feeling
> >  > that sticking with PIC would be better than trying to port to
> >  > Arduino, and imagine that as things continue to age there will be
> >  > more applications for interfaces. Any better but still cheapish
> >  > alternatives for programming?
> >
> > IIRC the PK-3 doesn't get any new device support at this point.
> > Existing stuff continues to work.  Depending on the nature of the
> > devices you might want to use in the future, it might be worth
> > considering a PK-4.
>
> I've used a PK-2 on PIC32MX devices.  I used MPLAB for a time, but
> OpenOCD also supports it.   After all, it's JTAG, sort of.
>
> What chips specifically?  On the PIC12 through PIC18 devices, I used the
> JDM cheapie with PonyProg.   Of course, you need a real serial port--I
> don't know of a USB one will work.
>
> Personally, you might find it more interesting to go with some of the
> STM32 ARM Cortex MCUs.  Many are 5V tolerant and will probably be around
> for a long time.   There's even an Arduino suite or two for the low-end
> ones.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>
>


Re: PIC programmers? More generic programmer? Port?

2021-03-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/3/21 10:47 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
>  > Any gotchas with the PICKit-3 clones out there? I have the feeling
>  > that sticking with PIC would be better than trying to port to
>  > Arduino, and imagine that as things continue to age there will be
>  > more applications for interfaces. Any better but still cheapish
>  > alternatives for programming?
> 
> IIRC the PK-3 doesn't get any new device support at this point.
> Existing stuff continues to work.  Depending on the nature of the
> devices you might want to use in the future, it might be worth
> considering a PK-4.

I've used a PK-2 on PIC32MX devices.  I used MPLAB for a time, but
OpenOCD also supports it.   After all, it's JTAG, sort of.

What chips specifically?  On the PIC12 through PIC18 devices, I used the
JDM cheapie with PonyProg.   Of course, you need a real serial port--I
don't know of a USB one will work.

Personally, you might find it more interesting to go with some of the
STM32 ARM Cortex MCUs.  Many are 5V tolerant and will probably be around
for a long time.   There's even an Arduino suite or two for the low-end
ones.

--Chuck





Re: RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?

2021-03-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk

On 3/3/21 11:11 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:

On 3/3/21 10:42 AM, Lee Gleason via cctalk wrote:


   The auction starts at  more than I have in my computer budget this month

I went ahead and bought these, but paypal contributions to my email would be 
helpful
this is way more than I can afford as well.


I have a set of RK11-D boards w/o backplane
that I'll need to sell to help cover the cost if
anyone wants to make an offer.


Re: RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?

2021-03-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk

On 3/3/21 10:42 AM, Lee Gleason via cctalk wrote:


   The auction starts at  more than I have in my computer budget this month

I went ahead and bought these, but paypal contributions to my email would be 
helpful
this is way more than I can afford as well.


Re: PIC programmers? More generic programmer? Port?

2021-03-03 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
 > Any gotchas with the PICKit-3 clones out there? I have the feeling
 > that sticking with PIC would be better than trying to port to
 > Arduino, and imagine that as things continue to age there will be
 > more applications for interfaces. Any better but still cheapish
 > alternatives for programming?

IIRC the PK-3 doesn't get any new device support at this point.
Existing stuff continues to work.  Depending on the nature of the
devices you might want to use in the future, it might be worth
considering a PK-4.

I actually do very little PIC stuff, so I can't speak to which devices,
how Microchip removes support from their software, etc. and recommend
salt grains here.

De


Re: Intellec MCS-8 8008 monitor program ROM files

2021-03-03 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Although this may not be what you're looking for, it's in the ballpark
(newer version?):  Note the board part number and compare with yours, I
don't see off hand which board exactly you have.
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/intel/IMM_6-26/
Bill

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 11:25 AM Jon Elson via cctech 
wrote:

> On 03/03/2021 07:17 AM, Roland via cctech wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > Does anyone have the Intellec MCS-8 8008 system monitor ROM files?
> > According to the Intellec MCS-8 manual the System Monitor is contained
> in five 1702A PROMs.My ROMs have a disk loader, but the disks system is
> long gone...
> >
> > Any papertape software is also welcome for this machine!
> > Thanks in advance!Regards, Roland Huisman
> >
> Wow, I have an old 8008-based embedded device I built back
> in 1976. It has the MCS 8008 CPU board, 1702 EPROM board and
> a RAM board.  I never had the system monitor, I did
> everything on that project "bare iron".  I think I did
> development with a PDP-11 and a homebrew cross assembler.
>
> Jon
>


Re: Intellec MCS-8 8008 monitor program ROM files

2021-03-03 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 03/03/2021 07:17 AM, Roland via cctech wrote:

Hello everyone,
Does anyone have the Intellec MCS-8 8008 system monitor ROM files?
According to the Intellec MCS-8 manual the System Monitor is contained in five 
1702A PROMs.My ROMs have a disk loader, but the disks system is long gone...

Any papertape software is also welcome for this machine!
Thanks in advance!Regards, Roland Huisman

Wow, I have an old 8008-based embedded device I built back 
in 1976. It has the MCS 8008 CPU board, 1702 EPROM board and 
a RAM board.  I never had the system monitor, I did 
everything on that project "bare iron".  I think I did 
development with a PDP-11 and a homebrew cross assembler.


Jon


Intellec MCS-8 8008 monitor program ROM files

2021-03-03 Thread Roland via cctalk
Hello everyone,
Does anyone have the Intellec MCS-8 8008 system monitor ROM files? 
According to the Intellec MCS-8 manual the System Monitor is contained in five 
1702A PROMs.My ROMs have a disk loader, but the disks system is long gone...

Any papertape software is also welcome for this machine!
Thanks in advance!Regards, Roland Huisman


SPARCengine CP1200

2021-03-03 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
I just acquired a Sun SPARCengine CP1200. To my knowledge the CP1200 is the
only 32bit SPARC with a PCI bus, which makes it pretty cool. It was also
extremely unpopular, because who wants a 100MHz MicroSPARC IIep when you
can have a SPARCengine CP1500 with a 270MHz UltraSPARC IIi (they were
released at the same time, and I suspect the cost difference wasn't all
that much).

Would anyone know where I can find a Sun PROM image? mine has a VxWorks
ROM, but I'd rather run Solaris on it. I've searched everywhere, and
couldn't find anything. Most "usual" places (e.g. the FE handbook) barely
acknowledge its existence if at all. AFAIK this predates field upgradeable
flash PROMs, so it's not hidden in a patch somewhere.

thanks
Rico


RSX11D disks on EBAY- anyone interested?

2021-03-03 Thread Lee Gleason via cctalk



  Saw this on EBAY today - three RK05s with what looks like at least 
part of RSX11D on them. Who knows, it might be a distribution - RSX11D 
distributions came on 3 RK05s.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/PDP-11-RSX-11D-Executive-Programs-Phase-II-3xRK05-DEC-Digital-PDP-1974/353406977959?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D7a0eb90cc60e434aae8c080e337e19f4%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D373481540837%26itm%3D353406977959%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DDEC&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A2a42bf6d-7c4f-11eb-873a-7260bc9e9eed%7Cparentrq%3Af95f330c1770a1b5a55bbf2dfff9e980%7Ciid%3A1

  The auction starts at  more than I have in my computer budget this 
month, though - would some other RSX historians like to go in together 
on this (preferably at least one person with an RK05 drive)?


  I'd just like the contents of the disks - I don't care about the 
physical disks, just what's on 'em


--
Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
Control-G Consultants
lee.glea...@comcast.net


PIC programmers? More generic programmer? Port?

2021-03-03 Thread Scott Quinn via cctalk
Looking for suggestions on hobbyist PIC setup. So far I have just used
Arduino type direct-connect microcontrollers (back in the day
programmers for general devices were expensive), but the currently
existing SGI proprietary system to PS/2 keyboard adapter is PIC (and I
have a couple different systems that all use my single SGI proprietary
keyboard).
Any gotchas with the PICKit-3 clones out there? I have the feeling that
sticking with PIC would be better than trying to port to Arduino, and
imagine that as things continue to age there will be more applications
for interfaces. Any better but still cheapish alternatives for
programming?