[cctalk] Re: VAXstation 100 ROM image

[Glen Slick via cctalk]

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:18 AM Al Kossow via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> On 9/21/21 9:58 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
> > How the hell did I miss *that*? Cool beans device, I've never heard of a 
> > VS100. Was it in a Rainbow sized box or a Pro/350 box?
>
> Smaller. I have access to one to take pictures and dump the firmware

Reviving a year old thread, did anyone get around to dumping the
VAXstation 100 firmware?

I don't see it where I looked here:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/vaxstation100/
http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/

[cctalk] Re: You have Apple Lisa 1 "twiggy" system to trade for my IBM 5100 Portable PC?

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 9/3/22 17:38, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:


Well, it ain't in the 5150/5160 range!
The 5100 new was $10K to $20K.
I had a 5100 that a dentist had bought as soon as it  came out and he 
added the floppy drives and printer.  It was a direct IBM buy for 31000.

thanks

Also a fair amount of software.

Jim

[cctalk] Re: Next Week: VCF Midwest

[Jon Elson via cctalk]

On 8/30/22 22:50, Jason T via cctalk wrote:

Hello vintage computing fans across the country and around the globe
(that's right - we're international!) The 17th Vintage Computer
Festival Midwest is coming up in just two weeks! The hotel is sold out
(months ago!), the tables are all booked (and then some!), now all we
need is YOU!

I will be at the VCFMW both days.  I am bringing a bunch of 
stuff to sell.  I have a big box of Q-bus boards from my 
Micro-VAX II system.  I also have two ESDI disks that have 
VMS 4.7 on them, and an Emulex QD21 controller.  I'm hoping 
somebody at the Fest can image the disk that was last used.


I also have a Nat Semi 16032 system that I cloned back about 
1982.  This was built on the Multibus I bus.  Unfortunately 
I overwrote the disk with VMS when I set up my VAX.


I also have a whole bunch of Nat Semi 16032 development 
boards from a multiprocessor project  (Multibus I).


I also have a Multibus I ADC board from Data Translation.

I also have a Nat Semi 8500 graphics demo board.

And, not for sale, I will be showing a Honeywell Alert 
airborne CPU that was developed in 1965 for the X-15 
project, to help get the pilot back to Edwards AFB with the 
right energy to land in one shot.


It was the first all IC computer delivered.  (The Apollo 
Guidance Computer project started first, but due to the 
complex software, it was delivered a bit later.)


Jon

[cctalk] Re: Flipping an 8" diskette

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, dwight via cctalk wrote:

When punching holes in the envelope I've always had a piece of thin cardboard 
between the back of the punch and the disk. I've never had a problem this way.
I damaged a disk once with the punch and the lesson was learned.
You just cut the cardboard  to slip conveniently in the center hole, between 
the disk and the envelope.
Dwight


I found an ordinary handheld hole punch from stationery stores, that had a 
piece of clear blue plastic covering the lower jaw, that caught any loose 
Chad.  I didn't damage any 5.25" nor 8" disks using that.  But, obviously 
I still could have.


I supplied those with the Flip-Jig.


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
OB_Irrelevant: "No matter how much you 'push the envelope', it's still 
stationery."   and"They hung Chad for messing with an election"

[cctalk] Re: Flipping an 8" diskette

[dwight via cctalk]

When punching holes in the envelope I've always had a piece of thin cardboard 
between the back of the punch and the disk. I've never had a problem this way.
I damaged a disk once with the punch and the lesson was learned.
You just cut the cardboard  to slip conveniently in the center hole, between 
the disk and the envelope.
Dwight

From: Mike Stein via cctalk 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 7:39 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
Cc: Mike Stein 
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Flipping an 8" diskette

Flipping disks to use both sides in a single-side drive was really only
feasible in Commodore and similar drives that did not rely on an index hole
for locating the data on the disk; the notch was to allow writing to the
disk and had to be added on the opposite edge.

To use a flipped 5 1/4" disk in any other drive requires punching holes for
the index sensor in the opposite location, as well as the write (un)protect
notch; this can be tricky and it's easy to damage the actual 'cookie'
unless you remove it first.

All 8" drives use an index hole and also require punching corresponding
index holes but, as Jonathan points out, it's a little more complicated
because  the original location of the hole is different depending on
whether the disk is single- or double-sided .

On the other hand, you don't have to add a notch on an 8" drive unless you
want to write-protect it; the notch acts the reverse of the 5 1/4" notch,
i.e. notch=protect, no notch=write enabled.

Finally, there's the issue of the medium itself; if you're flipping
single-sided disks the early 8" disks are more likely to have flaws on the
unused side than the later 5 1/4" diskettes.

m

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 4:10 AM Liam Proven via cctalk 
wrote:

> Someone on Fesse Bouc just found a sealed box of SS/SD 8" floppies in
> their garage.
>
> Most FB types are too young to know 8" disks existed, of course.
>
> Someone suggested punching a notch in them and using both sides.
>
> Was that even possible on 8" disks?
>
> (TBH single-sided actually-floppy floppies are before my time and I
> never used 'em. When they were on low-end American 8-bit home
> computers, this impecunious young Brit couldn't afford floppy drives
> at all. By the time I could, 5.25" DS/DD was the cheapest drive and
> cheapest media.)
>
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[cctalk] Re: Bringing up a Sun 386i: Can I use a modern monitor

[Mike Niswonger via cctalk]

It it used the 13W3 D connector, I've used these (years ago) before with 
success:


https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-100071-13W3-M-Video-Port-Adapter/dp/B007TZG526

Actually, not the specific brand, just 13W3 to VGA adapters...

    -- Mike

On 9/4/22 00:54, jjacocks--- via cctalk wrote:

Likely the RGB2HDMI board found here:

https://github.com/hoglet67/RGBtoHDMI

Get Outlook for Android

From: Chris Zach via cctalk 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 5:10:41 PM
To: CCTalk mailing list 
Cc: Chris Zach 
Subject: [cctalk] Bringing up a Sun 386i: Can I use a modern monitor

Continuing my exploration of my old stuff pile I'm starting to work on
my Sun 386i systems. Old, no doubt but still there.

First step would be finding a monitor for them. The video cards I have
are the monochrome one, the CGI3 and a CGI5 board. For the color
monitors the cable I have goes to the RGBSync and of course to the
keyboard/mouse combination.

Question: Is there an adapter that can turn the Sun's output to HDMI or
VGA for a more modern monitor?

C

[cctalk] Re: Bringing up a Sun 386i: Can I use a modern monitor

[jjacocks--- via cctalk]

Likely the RGB2HDMI board found here:

https://github.com/hoglet67/RGBtoHDMI

Get Outlook for Android

From: Chris Zach via cctalk 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 5:10:41 PM
To: CCTalk mailing list 
Cc: Chris Zach 
Subject: [cctalk] Bringing up a Sun 386i: Can I use a modern monitor

Continuing my exploration of my old stuff pile I'm starting to work on
my Sun 386i systems. Old, no doubt but still there.

First step would be finding a monitor for them. The video cards I have
are the monochrome one, the CGI3 and a CGI5 board. For the color
monitors the cable I have goes to the RGBSync and of course to the
keyboard/mouse combination.

Question: Is there an adapter that can turn the Sun's output to HDMI or
VGA for a more modern monitor?

C