[cctalk] Re: VCF this weekend, any one up for a trade?

[Steve Lewis via cctalk]

I can't make it to VCF this weekend - though I'm hoping to make it to the
one in September.

I actually am looking for something: any working IEC device for a C64 (1541
drive, printer, plotter?).   More for an experiment than collection, but do
prefer clean and presentable.


Earlier this year, I reached someone with a working Poly-88.  But then in
March they reported health issues and hospital stays, so I haven't heard
since.  Would be interested if anyone else is aware of a still-working one.

We're still working on recovery of an IBM 5100 "launch title" tape
(analytic functions) - practicing with other tapes first.  Its 2-channel
deal so far isn't quite that straightforward.  But if the Tektronics folks
can do it with their QIC tapes, I'm somewhat hopeful we can too (although
late 70s/early 80s Tektronic is apparently a more proper IEEE-488).

Only thing I could offer right now is a fairly not-working 5110 (display
don't work, PSU don't work, cards don't work - but the case is pristine).

-Steve





On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 8:49 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk 
wrote:

> >> I did not get any of whatever mailings there were.
> >>
> >> I don't exhibit, but I do have an excessive amount of stuff to sort and
> >> pack for sale and giveaway.
> >> --
> >> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > We'll just have to organize a VCF Fred at some point.  That way, they
> come
> > to you.
> >
> > I mean, after all, that's why I started the VCF ;)
>
> Yes, but you handed it over to a swell bunch of people before I finished
> parting with my stuff!
>
> --
> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
>

[cctalk] Re: SCO on Virtualbox

[Doug Jackson via cctalk]

Years ago I had the 5.25" installation floppies and the important yellow
slips of paper with the authorisation keys to install the operating system
and various extensions

Sadly I tossed them when I moved to FreeBSD.

Nowadays - I wonder how useful the installers would be without the licence
/ activation keys?

Kindest regards,

Doug Jackson

em: d...@doughq.com
ph: 0414 986878

Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net



On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 10:29, jim stephens via cctalk 
wrote:

>
>
> On 8/3/23 13:21, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
> > My efforts have failed. My host is Ubuntu 22.04 with Virtualbox 7.0.10.
> I'd be curious given the nature of SCO if anyone has posted the goods to
> install any of them, and what versions.
>
> That aside, as mentioned by Grant, the system then was broken down with
> so many bits and pieces with different tariffs on the parts that it was
> a bitch to get one running.  Not only was Linux "free" to get early on,
> but it didn't screw with holding back anything. Not to mention you were
> on your own to fix stuff and contribute to the effort.
>
> I don't know how many engineers SCO had working on support, but once
> Linux took off there were a lot working on it, and later a lot of
> resources to ask for help and support, vs. sending a bug report or
> support request down the black hole at SCO.
>
> I'd certainly try virtualbox, vmware and QEMU to see if it ran.  I'm
> still playing with the latter to get guest networking going, and with
> older NICs on old SCO distributions, you may have some challenges having
> support.  But the 3M controllers seemed to be a hardware universal
> device pre virtualization, and I'd hope any i386 virtualization would
> still have support.
>
> I still have boxes with hopefully SCO install goods, but haven't looked
> into getting them running in a long time.
> thanks
> Jim
>
>

[cctalk] Looking for the MAD-1 drive unit

[Brad H via cctalk]

I have 3 of the 4 pieces of Modular Advanced Design's MAD-1 and every now
and again I like to reach out and see if anyone might have the last missing
piece I need.  The MAD-1 is sort of like the evil twin of the Mindset..
although nowhere near the graphics prowess.  Unfortunately like the Mindset
the disk drives are a separate unit and unlike the Mindset the MAD-1 can't
operate without them because the enclosure also contains the PSU for the
whole computer.  The floppy drives are nothing special.. just SA-455 360k. 

 

Anyway, Sellam's msg about trades prompted me to reach out again.  If you
aren't familiar here is a link to a pic of one CHM has.

 

https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/X1620.99A

 

Many thanks!!

 

Brad

 

Brad - The Tech Time Traveller

b...@techtimetraveller.com

 

[cctalk] Re: VCF this weekend, any one up for a trade?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

I did not get any of whatever mailings there were.

I don't exhibit, but I do have an excessive amount of stuff to sort and
pack for sale and giveaway.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com



On Thu, 3 Aug 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:

We'll just have to organize a VCF Fred at some point.  That way, they come
to you.

I mean, after all, that's why I started the VCF ;)


Yes, but you handed it over to a swell bunch of people before I finished 
parting with my stuff!


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

[cctalk] Re: VCF this weekend, any one up for a trade?

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:20 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk 
wrote:

> I did not get any of whatever mailings there were.
>
> I don't exhibit, but I do have an excessive amount of stuff to sort and
> pack for sale and giveaway.
>
> --
> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


We'll just have to organize a VCF Fred at some point.  That way, they come
to you.

I mean, after all, that's why I started the VCF ;)

Sellam

[cctalk] Re: VCF this weekend, any one up for a trade?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

I did not get any of whatever mailings there were.

I don't exhibit, but I do have an excessive amount of stuff to sort and 
pack for sale and giveaway.


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

On Thu, 3 Aug 2023, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:




On 8/3/23 20:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Once again, the first that I am hearing about it is too late to pack 
up stuff to take!


In the future, would everybody who knows about it mention it at 
least once a week for the month preceding?


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
I saw a lot about it on Facebook groups from individuals, but not much 
in the way of communications from the organizers.


Erik Klein sent out reminders, the latest was 6/23 to my vcf email 
receptacle.  I thought you'd exhibited, are you n not getting those 
emails as well as ads / postings?


Thanks
Jim

[cctalk] Re: VCF this weekend, any one up for a trade?

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 8/3/23 20:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Once again, the first that I am hearing about it is too late to pack 
up stuff to take!


In the future, would everybody who knows about it mention it at least 
once a week for the month preceding?


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
I saw a lot about it on Facebook groups from individuals, but not much 
in the way of communications from the organizers.


Erik Klein sent out reminders, the latest was 6/23 to my vcf email 
receptacle.  I thought you'd exhibited, are you n not getting those 
emails as well as ads / postings?


Thanks
Jim

[cctalk] Re: VCF this weekend, any one up for a trade?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

Once again, the first that I am hearing about it is too late to pack 
up stuff to take!


In the future, would everybody who knows about it mention it at least once 
a week for the month preceding?


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


On Thu, 3 Aug 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:


I'm sure there are at least a couple of you who will be attending the VCF
this weekend in Mountain View at the Computer History Museum.

Is there anything that anyone might want/need?  Please send me a private
message if you're looking for something and if I have what you want I can
bring it with me.

I'll only be there Saturday.

Sellam

[cctalk] VCF this weekend, any one up for a trade?

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

I'm sure there are at least a couple of you who will be attending the VCF
this weekend in Mountain View at the Computer History Museum.

Is there anything that anyone might want/need?  Please send me a private
message if you're looking for something and if I have what you want I can
bring it with me.

I'll only be there Saturday.

Sellam

[cctalk] Re: SCO on Virtualbox

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 8/3/23 13:21, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:

My efforts have failed. My host is Ubuntu 22.04 with Virtualbox 7.0.10.
I'd be curious given the nature of SCO if anyone has posted the goods to 
install any of them, and what versions.


That aside, as mentioned by Grant, the system then was broken down with 
so many bits and pieces with different tariffs on the parts that it was 
a bitch to get one running.  Not only was Linux "free" to get early on, 
but it didn't screw with holding back anything. Not to mention you were 
on your own to fix stuff and contribute to the effort.


I don't know how many engineers SCO had working on support, but once 
Linux took off there were a lot working on it, and later a lot of 
resources to ask for help and support, vs. sending a bug report or 
support request down the black hole at SCO.


I'd certainly try virtualbox, vmware and QEMU to see if it ran.  I'm 
still playing with the latter to get guest networking going, and with 
older NICs on old SCO distributions, you may have some challenges having 
support.  But the 3M controllers seemed to be a hardware universal 
device pre virtualization, and I'd hope any i386 virtualization would 
still have support.


I still have boxes with hopefully SCO install goods, but haven't looked 
into getting them running in a long time.

thanks
Jim

[cctalk] Re: SCO on Virtualbox

[KenUnix via cctalk]

Grant,

Thanks. I think for now I'll stick with GhostBSD and Linuix.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:50 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 8/3/23 1:21 PM, KenUnix wrote:
> > Hi.
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> > Has anyone got SCO Unix to successfully install and run on Virtualbox?
>
> *Which* *version* of SCO?  UnixWare, OpenServer, or something older?
>
> > My efforts have failed. My host is Ubuntu 22.04 with Virtualbox 7.0.10.
>
> I don't remember the last time that I installed any SCO product in
> virtualization, but I am quite certain that I've gotten a basic
> installation of, probably, OpenServer 5. in VirtualBox.
>
> I assume that I didn't try to do anything with guest additions.
>
> I /think/ that Microsoft supported SCO OpenServer and / or UnixWare in
> MS-VirtualPC.  So you might be able to enable nested virtualization and
> run SCO {OpenServer,UnixWare} in MS-VPS in Windows in VirtaulBox.
>
> N.B. There is a small chance that I was using KVM and not VirtualBox as
> around that time I was making heavy use of both virtualization
> solutions, sometimes concurrently on the same system.  But I'm fairly
> certain that I've installed SCO OpenServer 5.x in VirtualBox.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
>


-- 
End of line
JOB TERMINATED

[cctalk] Re: ROM data for Lear Siegler ADM31?

[John Robertson via cctalk]

Hi Peter,

Thanks, I'll check with Ian if he tried those or not...

John :-#)#

On 2023/08/03 11:58 a.m., Peter Ekstrom wrote:

Hi John,

Would these be what you are looking for?

https://bitsavers.org/pdf/learSiegler/ADM_31/firmware/

-Peter

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:47 PM John Robertson via cctalk 
 wrote:


I sold my Lear Siegler ADM31 recently and the new owner (Ian) has
found
that one of the ROMs failed before he could archive it - or it was
defective to start with.

So my question to the list is - does anyone have the ROM codes (there
are three of them) archived?

I don't think Ian is a member of this list, otherwise I'm sure I
would
have spotted a post with a subject line like mine...

Thanks!

John :-#)#

-- 
                  John's Jukes Ltd.

7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
flippers.com 
  "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"



--
 John's Jukes Ltd.
7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
 flippers.com
 "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

[cctalk] Re: ROM data for Lear Siegler ADM31?

[Peter Ekstrom via cctalk]

Hi John,

Would these be what you are looking for?

https://bitsavers.org/pdf/learSiegler/ADM_31/firmware/

-Peter

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:47 PM John Robertson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I sold my Lear Siegler ADM31 recently and the new owner (Ian) has found
> that one of the ROMs failed before he could archive it - or it was
> defective to start with.
>
> So my question to the list is - does anyone have the ROM codes (there
> are three of them) archived?
>
> I don't think Ian is a member of this list, otherwise I'm sure I would
> have spotted a post with a subject line like mine...
>
> Thanks!
>
> John :-#)#
>
> --
>   John's Jukes Ltd.
> 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
> Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
>   flippers.com
>   "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
>
>

[cctalk] Re: SCO on Virtualbox

[Grant Taylor via cctalk]

On 8/3/23 1:21 PM, KenUnix wrote:

Hi.


Hi Ken,


Has anyone got SCO Unix to successfully install and run on Virtualbox?


*Which* *version* of SCO?  UnixWare, OpenServer, or something older?


My efforts have failed. My host is Ubuntu 22.04 with Virtualbox 7.0.10.


I don't remember the last time that I installed any SCO product in 
virtualization, but I am quite certain that I've gotten a basic 
installation of, probably, OpenServer 5. in VirtualBox.


I assume that I didn't try to do anything with guest additions.

I /think/ that Microsoft supported SCO OpenServer and / or UnixWare in 
MS-VirtualPC.  So you might be able to enable nested virtualization and 
run SCO {OpenServer,UnixWare} in MS-VPS in Windows in VirtaulBox.


N.B. There is a small chance that I was using KVM and not VirtualBox as 
around that time I was making heavy use of both virtualization 
solutions, sometimes concurrently on the same system.  But I'm fairly 
certain that I've installed SCO OpenServer 5.x in VirtualBox.




--
Grant. . . .

[cctalk] ROM data for Lear Siegler ADM31?

[John Robertson via cctalk]

I sold my Lear Siegler ADM31 recently and the new owner (Ian) has found 
that one of the ROMs failed before he could archive it - or it was 
defective to start with.


So my question to the list is - does anyone have the ROM codes (there 
are three of them) archived?


I don't think Ian is a member of this list, otherwise I'm sure I would 
have spotted a post with a subject line like mine...


Thanks!

John :-#)#

--
 John's Jukes Ltd.
7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
 flippers.com
 "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

[cctalk] SCO on Virtualbox

[KenUnix via cctalk]

Hi.

Has anyone got SCO Unix to successfully install and run on Virtualbox?

My efforts have failed. My host is Ubuntu 22.04 with Virtualbox 7.0.10.

Thanks, Ken

-- 
WWL 

[cctalk] Re: Apple 1

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Wed, 2 Aug 2023, Murray McCullough wrote:

Classic computers have a value in our capitalist society. Take the Apple-1:


Not necessarily. Something only gets a value if there is a demand or 
market. As I repeatedly see old classic systems scrapped because nobody 
wants them/has space to store them, there can't be such a high value. For 
example, how do you tax a Mincal 523? We have the only one that survived. 
I'd say, it's "priceless", you can't attribute a value to it, because 
there's neither a market nor a reference to compare with.
The only reason why the Apple 1 has a monetary value is because it has 
become a pure investment object. Everything else is just worthless, except 
perhaps the video shift registers ;-)


Christian