[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

[Andrew Diller via cctalk]

Hope this helps, I put it together to keep track of them all.

-andy


> On Jan 25, 2024, at 2:47 PM, Ali via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali
>  Original message From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk 
>  Date: 1/25/24  11:45 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: "General 
> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Cc: Sellam 
> Abraham  Subject: [cctalk] VCF SoCal I'll be 
> attending VCF SoCal on February 17-18 in Orange (California) in thecapacity 
> of a presenter (on a panel and a solo presentation).Is anyone else planning 
> to attend the event?Sellam

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:37 PM Michael Mulhern via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> As a denizen of the antipodes I’ve heard about VCFSoCal, but maybe I’m more
> into the socials.
>
> Maybe VCF(etal) should be also sending notifications through email lists
> and boards.
>

I agree, they should.


> Hoping anyone local(ish) to VCFSoCal can get there and have a great time.
>
> M.
>

Sellam

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

[Michael Mulhern via cctalk]

As a denizen of the antipodes I’ve heard about VCFSoCal, but maybe I’m more
into the socials.

Maybe VCF(etal) should be also sending notifications through email lists
and boards.

Hoping anyone local(ish) to VCFSoCal can get there and have a great time.

M.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 8:33 am, Fred Cisin via cctalk 
wrote:

> >> First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > Forgive me, I should not have assumed everyone already knew about it.
> > February 17-18 at the Hotel Fera Event Center in Orange, California.
> > https://www.vcfsocal.com/
>
> California VCF's tend to not be announced here!
>
> Last august, I missed VCF West, because I didn't hear about it in time.
>
> --
> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
>

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali


On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:

Forgive me, I should not have assumed everyone already knew about it.
February 17-18 at the Hotel Fera Event Center in Orange, California.
https://www.vcfsocal.com/


California VCF's tend to not be announced here!

Last august, I missed VCF West, because I didn't hear about it in time.

--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

Forgive me, I should not have assumed everyone already knew about it.

February 17-18 at the Hotel Fera Event Center in Orange, California.

https://www.vcfsocal.com/

Sellam

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:47 AM Ali via cctalk 
wrote:

> First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali
>  Original message From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> Date: 1/25/24  11:45 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: "General
> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Cc:
> Sellam Abraham  Subject: [cctalk] VCF SoCal I'll
> be attending VCF SoCal on February 17-18 in Orange (California) in
> thecapacity of a presenter (on a panel and a solo presentation).Is anyone
> else planning to attend the event?Sellam

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

[Ali via cctalk]

First time I am hearing of this. Are details up on the vcf site?-Ali
 Original message From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk 
 Date: 1/25/24  11:45 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Cc: Sellam 
Abraham  Subject: [cctalk] VCF SoCal I'll be attending 
VCF SoCal on February 17-18 in Orange (California) in thecapacity of a 
presenter (on a panel and a solo presentation).Is anyone else planning to 
attend the event?Sellam

[cctalk] VCF SoCal

[Sellam Abraham via cctalk]

I'll be attending VCF SoCal on February 17-18 in Orange (California) in the
capacity of a presenter (on a panel and a solo presentation).

Is anyone else planning to attend the event?

Sellam

[cctalk] Re: The MAC at 40

[Tom Gardner via cctalk]

 

 

-Original Message-

From: Sellam Abraham  
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:16 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
Subject: [cctalk] Re: The MAC at 40

 

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 2:04 PM Andrew Diller via cctalk <  
 cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

 

 That 

> story of "stolen from PARC" IMHO is just weak writing back when the 

> Internet didn't have the info it has today which gives full context over what 
> was going on.



 

I read a narrative more recently that more accurately depicted the actual 
events.  I wish I could remember any details about it, otherwise I would link 
it up so others could read it.

 

But basically, Jobs never stole anything.  He was pretty much invited to take a 
look, and then entered into some sort of exclusivity deal (I may be wrong about 
this detail) to use Xerox tech.  Xerox upper execs didn't see a market in this 
kind of hardware; copiers were their game, so they didn't get what they had, 
and didn't care.  If anything, Apple should be thanked for taking what would 
have been deadend technology at Xerox and making a product with it.  Basically.

 

Sellam

Xerox was a pre-IPO investor in Apple and Xerox Development Corp (XDC) is 
reported to have granted Jobs visits to PARC in December 1979.  Jes Raskin 
claims to have also facilitated at least one visit after the investment.

 

What is not well known is Jobs had a visit to PARC prior to the Xerox 
investment which was conducted by the President of Shugart Corporation, then a 
subsidiary of Xerox.  Jobs had offered pre-IPO stock to the Shugart executives, 
but when they requested advice from XDC as to whether it was OK, XDC took on 
the investment.   Apple was then Shugart’s largest customer and needing to kill 
some time before a meeting Shugart’s President, Don Massaro, took Jobs thru 
PARC where Jobs purportedly first viewed the various technologies.  It is lost 
to history what sort of disclosure agreements existed at that time between 
Apple and Shugart Corp.

 

Tom

[cctalk] Re: Looking for 1970s OAK keyboard switches...

[John Robertson via cctalk]

On 2024/01/25 6:28 a.m., Paul Koning wrote:



On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:52 PM, John Robertson via cctalk  
wrote:

I've been hunting for a while now for OAK PCB mount keyboard switches that I 
can't find a part number for. I've attached a product listing for the switch 
that shows it pretty well. DPST-NO preferred.

Only $0.40 in the early '70s!

I don't know about Oak, but I remember that Cherry switches were still 
available (new) fairly recently.  A friend of mine used them to build replica 
PLATO keyboards -- using the same switches that were in the original.

paul

Cherry switches are quite different in size and mount from the ones I'm 
looking for unfortunately.


John :-#(#

[cctalk] Re: Looking for 1970s OAK keyboard switches...

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:52 PM, John Robertson via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've been hunting for a while now for OAK PCB mount keyboard switches that I 
> can't find a part number for. I've attached a product listing for the switch 
> that shows it pretty well. DPST-NO preferred.
> 
> Only $0.40 in the early '70s!

I don't know about Oak, but I remember that Cherry switches were still 
available (new) fairly recently.  A friend of mine used them to build replica 
PLATO keyboards -- using the same switches that were in the original.

paul