[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700
I did run a hackintosh on one very long ago. IIRC it was a core I 2 not very bright bulb. That's not on topic either, but worth knowing. thanks Jim On 4/5/24 19:41, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: I find them to be painfully slow Actually I think it got a lot better once I installed debian in it. Sorry you're having issues. B On Fri, Apr 5, 2024, 7:47 PM Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: On Fri, 2024-04-05 at 22:25 +, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:45 PM Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: I have a Dell Vostro. Sellam responded: Um... ...Yeah. Both extremely helpful. Thanks.
[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700
I find them to be painfully slow Actually I think it got a lot better once I installed debian in it. Sorry you're having issues. B On Fri, Apr 5, 2024, 7:47 PM Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 2024-04-05 at 22:25 +, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:45 PM Van Snyder via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > > I have a Dell Vostro. > > > > Sellam responded: > > > > > Um... > > > > ...Yeah. > > Both extremely helpful. Thanks. >
[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700
On Fri, 2024-04-05 at 22:25 +, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:45 PM Van Snyder via cctalk > wrote: > > > I have a Dell Vostro. > > Sellam responded: > > > Um... > > ...Yeah. Both extremely helpful. Thanks.
[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700
That's not quite on topic here but I used to own one. Just close the lid and walk away slowly. On Fri, Apr 5, 2024, 6:25 PM Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:45 PM Van Snyder via cctalk > wrote: > > > I have a Dell Vostro. > > Sellam responded: > > >Um... > > ...Yeah. >
[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:45 PM Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > I have a Dell Vostro. Sellam responded: >Um... ...Yeah.
[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700
Um... On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:45 PM Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > I have a Dell Vostro. > > When I boot, the screen briefly flashes and then remains dark. > > I have another one on which the screen would stay lit for a minute or > two, then go black. If I closed the lid and opened it, it would stay > lit for a few more minutes, then go black again. I corrected that by > replacing the backlight power supply. > > In this one, is the problem more likely a defective power supply for > the backlight, or a defective backlight, or something else? > > > Thanks, > Van Snyder > >
[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 7:18 PM Kevin Bowling via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > There is an ebay seller 'biff-howard-tanen' that has some C200s up > right now. All their items have "Make an Offer'' and they tend to be > fairly reasonable as long as you account for the free shipping they > offer. I've had mostly good luck with buying from them, and they made > right the couple oops. > > Regards, > Kevin > I can also vouch for "Biff". I've transacted with him before (traded an IMSAI 8080 for an Alpha Syntauri system he had listed on eBay...I proposed the trade and he was kind enough to go with it, so I know he will work with you). FWIW we are also "Facebook Friends" and he's known in the computer collecting circles there. A very great guy. He runs an e-waste processing facility in the midwest. Sellam
[cctalk] Problem with Dell Vostro 1700
I have a Dell Vostro. When I boot, the screen briefly flashes and then remains dark. I have another one on which the screen would stay lit for a minute or two, then go black. If I closed the lid and opened it, it would stay lit for a few more minutes, then go black again. I corrected that by replacing the backlight power supply. In this one, is the problem more likely a defective power supply for the backlight, or a defective backlight, or something else? Thanks, Van Snyder
[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180
Kevin, Thanks. but isn't there a big risk with that item that it doesn't work at all, given the "for parts" designation? I suppose I can email and ask if it POSTS... Thanks On 4/5/2024 1:10 PM, Kevin Bowling via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:33 AM Keith Monahan wrote: Thanks guys for pointing out what's available and the references which will be useful the next time something good comes around! The C200 runs the newer 64-bit processor, the PA8200, which is RISC 2.0, and (I'd imagine is) quite a bit different than the PA7300. You can still run a 32b OS or 32b applications depending on your preference on the C200. PA-RISC is a well designed superset of its prior ISA versions. I re-read your post and it seems you want chipset compatibility though, in which case yes you'd want to find a LASI system like the C160L/C180L if going to C-class. Here is a good candidate: https://www.ebay.com/itm/195201664655 I don't understand the silly pricing either. Who's buying them? Who is forking over $1000, $1500, etc for these old machines? I don't really even buy the "some business relies on this and have never updated" because you'd have to have some smart folks on standby who could reinstall software, reconfigure machines with licenses, etc. Assuming you still had the necessary CDs etc. I think there is a small subset of PA-RISC machines that are used as controllers for ABB PLCs, maybe other types of industrial and lab equipment. It might not be a big deal to spend $1200 to maintain something like that and not have to understand how to make it run on other types of systems. The sellers then extrapolate that to everything is worth its weight in gold. Keith On 4/4/2024 11:06 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: On Apr 4, 2024, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: There is an ebay seller 'biff-howard-tanen' that has some C200s up right now. All their items have "Make an Offer'' and they tend to be fairly reasonable as long as you account for the free shipping they offer. I've had mostly good luck with buying from them, and they made right the couple oops. I can vouch for them as a seller in the same way, I've also gotten reasonable prices from them when making offers that account for shipping, and the seller actually knows how to pack stuff. Same with eBay seller jonnyadler, though their list price for a C180 is, let's say, "optimistic.") -- Chris
[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:33 AM Keith Monahan wrote: > > Thanks guys for pointing out what's available and the references > which will be useful the next time something good comes around! > > The C200 runs the newer 64-bit processor, the PA8200, which is RISC 2.0, > and (I'd imagine is) quite a bit different than the PA7300. You can still run a 32b OS or 32b applications depending on your preference on the C200. PA-RISC is a well designed superset of its prior ISA versions. I re-read your post and it seems you want chipset compatibility though, in which case yes you'd want to find a LASI system like the C160L/C180L if going to C-class. Here is a good candidate: https://www.ebay.com/itm/195201664655 > I don't understand the silly pricing either. Who's buying them? Who is > forking over $1000, $1500, etc for these old machines? I don't really > even buy the "some business relies on this and have never updated" > because you'd have to have some smart folks on standby who could > reinstall software, reconfigure machines with licenses, etc. Assuming > you still had the necessary CDs etc. I think there is a small subset of PA-RISC machines that are used as controllers for ABB PLCs, maybe other types of industrial and lab equipment. It might not be a big deal to spend $1200 to maintain something like that and not have to understand how to make it run on other types of systems. The sellers then extrapolate that to everything is worth its weight in gold. > > Keith > > > On 4/4/2024 11:06 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2024, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > >> > >> There is an ebay seller 'biff-howard-tanen' that has some C200s up > >> right now. All their items have "Make an Offer'' and they tend to be > >> fairly reasonable as long as you account for the free shipping they > >> offer. I've had mostly good luck with buying from them, and they made > >> right the couple oops. > > > > I can vouch for them as a seller in the same way, I've also gotten > > reasonable prices from them when making offers that account for shipping, > > and the seller actually knows how to pack stuff. Same with eBay seller > > jonnyadler, though their list price for a C180 is, let's say, > > "optimistic.") > > > >-- Chris
[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180
Thanks guys for pointing out what's available and the references which will be useful the next time something good comes around! The C200 runs the newer 64-bit processor, the PA8200, which is RISC 2.0, and (I'd imagine is) quite a bit different than the PA7300. I don't understand the silly pricing either. Who's buying them? Who is forking over $1000, $1500, etc for these old machines? I don't really even buy the "some business relies on this and have never updated" because you'd have to have some smart folks on standby who could reinstall software, reconfigure machines with licenses, etc. Assuming you still had the necessary CDs etc. Keith On 4/4/2024 11:06 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: On Apr 4, 2024, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: There is an ebay seller 'biff-howard-tanen' that has some C200s up right now. All their items have "Make an Offer'' and they tend to be fairly reasonable as long as you account for the free shipping they offer. I've had mostly good luck with buying from them, and they made right the couple oops. I can vouch for them as a seller in the same way, I've also gotten reasonable prices from them when making offers that account for shipping, and the seller actually knows how to pack stuff. Same with eBay seller jonnyadler, though their list price for a C180 is, let's say, "optimistic.") -- Chris
[cctalk] Re: Seeking out Joe Rigdon / John Lawson
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:33 PM Tony Duell wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 8:58 PM Zane Healy via cctalk > wrote: > > > Have you checked with Eric Smith or Dave McGuire? I want to say that Dave > > was in the same general area as Joe when he lived in Florida. > > I've asked Wlodek Mier-J of the British HPCC calculator club if he has > any contact details. Unfortunately Wlodek has been unable to contact Joe Rigdon as well. -tony
[cctalk] Re: Seeking out Joe Rigdon / John Lawson
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 8:58 PM Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > Have you checked with Eric Smith or Dave McGuire? I want to say that Dave > was in the same general area as Joe when he lived in Florida. I've asked Wlodek Mier-J of the British HPCC calculator club if he has any contact details. -tony
[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes
> > > > >> Found it (on paper): "Generating characters" by Kenneth Perry and > >> Everett Aho, > Electronics, Jan 3, 1958, pp. 72-75. > > > >> Bitsavers has it in the MIT/LincolnLaboratory section: > https://bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/lincolnLaboratory/Perry_and_Aho__Generating_Characters_-_Electronics_19580103.pdf > > > > Very interesting. Here's a link to the patent for the display system > on the Wyle Labs calculator: > > > > > https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/17/51/58/89c19cee6c60e2/US3305843.pdf > > > > The concepts are very similar to the paper written up in ELECTRONICS > magazine in early 1958 that you found. Your memory is incredible to have > been able to have this pop into your mind when you read my description of > the way the calculator generates its display. > > > > DEC made the KV8/I option ( http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/pdp8i/DEC-8I-H6MA-D_KV_Graphic_Display_System_Maint_Apr70.pdf) for the PDP-8/I and PDP-8/L. It had a analog function generator which could draw vectors and circles. The board is A312 and is a Dual module. My board look like this: https://svn.so-much-stuff.com/svn/trunk/Eagle/projects/DEC/Axxx/A312/A312Efront.jpg THE KV8 was made for connecting to storage displays like the Tek 611 / VT01 and not displays that need continuous updates.
