[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
On 3/19/23 11:06 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 3/19/23 07:58, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Wow, very interesting! I never knew that. (I wonder what the Mazak people call their machines in UK/Europe?) In my experience,"Mitsubishi". --Chuck I believe the parent company is Yamazaki. They use Mitsubishi in their controls. Ed.
[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
On 3/19/23 07:58, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Wow, very interesting! I never knew that. (I wonder what the Mazak > people call their machines in UK/Europe?) In my experience,"Mitsubishi". --Chuck
[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
On 3/18/23 15:48, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: Jon said On 3/18/23 04:34, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: G'day all, I have just uploaded the engineering drawings for the early PDP-11/05, the one with the solid (no slots) Mazak lower bezel Huh? Mazak made machine tools. Did you mean Zamak (zinc-based die casting alloy)? Jon It's Zamak in the US, and Mazak in the UK (possibly Europe too?) and other parts of the world. I'm in the other parts of the world bit. Wow, very interesting! I never knew that. (I wonder what the Mazak people call their machines in UK/Europe?) Jon
[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote: Just like Anacin and Anadin - when things move across international boundaries,local copyrights are a mess! In USA, copyright and trademark are handled by two different departments. Copyright registration is handled by Library of Congress. Although registration is not required, in the event of an infringement suit, it makes the copyright largely uncontestable, rendering THAT part of the suit moot. Trademark is handled by the Patent And Trademark Office. Registration is advisable. But even an unregistered trademark, if well documented, can be used to show "prior use", to defend in a suit, or to contest a new registration. Many trademarks have entered common usage, such as "kleenex" for facial tissue, or "Xerox", and are rather diluted, although still not available for competitors to use. In 1987, while doing some business at PTO (Patent and Trademark), I confirmed that "MS-DOS" was trademarked, whereas "PC-DOS was NOT trademarked. IBM considered it to be a description of the product, not the NAME. Similarly, you would not be able to trademark "DOS" due to extensive prior use. I don't know the details of what happened when Concurrent CP/M-86 was briefly marketed as "Concurrent PC-DOS". OB_Disclaimer: IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer), although I did costume as one on Halloween one year. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
Just like Anacin and Anadin - when things move across international boundaries,local copyrights are a mess! On 2023-03-18 16:48, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: Jon said On 3/18/23 04:34, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: G'day all, I have just uploaded the engineering drawings for the early PDP-11/05, the one with the solid (no slots) Mazak lower bezel Huh? Mazak made machine tools. Did you mean Zamak (zinc-based die casting alloy)? Jon It's Zamak in the US, and Mazak in the UK (possibly Europe too?) and other parts of the world. I'm in the other parts of the world bit. Adrian said I thought it was Mazak too - eg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Myford-Mazak-hand-dials-ML7-and-ML7R-/325571981560 I had those exact same original Mazak handwheel dials on my ML7, changed them out for the machined resettable ones from Myford. Much nicer! -- Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591
[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
Jon said > On 3/18/23 04:34, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: >> G'day all, >> I have just uploaded the engineering drawings for the early PDP-11/05, >> the one with the solid (no slots) Mazak lower bezel > > Huh? Mazak made machine tools. Did you mean Zamak > (zinc-based die casting alloy)? > > Jon It's Zamak in the US, and Mazak in the UK (possibly Europe too?) and other parts of the world. I'm in the other parts of the world bit. Adrian said I thought it was Mazak too - eg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Myford-Mazak-hand-dials-ML7-and-ML7R-/325571981560 I had those exact same original Mazak handwheel dials on my ML7, changed them out for the machined resettable ones from Myford. Much nicer!
[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
I thought it was Mazak too - eg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Myford-Mazak-hand-dials-ML7-and-ML7R-/325571981560 On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 2:54 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 3/18/23 04:34, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: > > G'day all, > > I have just uploaded the engineering drawings for the early > PDP-11/05, the one with the solid (no slots) Mazak lower bezel > > Huh? Mazak made machine tools. Did you mean Zamak > (zinc-based die casting alloy)? > > Jon > >
[cctalk] Re: PDP-11/05 early print set for download
On 3/18/23 04:34, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: G'day all, I have just uploaded the engineering drawings for the early PDP-11/05, the one with the solid (no slots) Mazak lower bezel Huh? Mazak made machine tools. Did you mean Zamak (zinc-based die casting alloy)? Jon
