Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Rod Smallwood via cctalk]

On 20/09/2017 17:30, Ulrich Tagge via cctalk wrote:

Hi Rod,

I have not the chance to go into the basement before Weekend, but have 
document the installation here:

http://www.pdp-11.de/index.php/pdp-11/rt11-5-4g-installation/

My 11/84 have the KDJ11-B (m8190).



Vielen Dank am interessantesten. Ich muss auch genau die Einstellung 
kennen, die du auf deinem Konfigurationsbildschirm hast - Rod


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Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Ulrich Tagge via cctalk]

Hi Rod,

I have not the chance to go into the basement before Weekend, but have 
document the installation here:

http://www.pdp-11.de/index.php/pdp-11/rt11-5-4g-installation/

My 11/84 have the KDJ11-B (m8190).

Many Greetings
Ulrich

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Ulrich Tagge via cctalk]

Hi Rod,

I missed this in my last reply.
You can also verify the Bootstrap code placed in the KDJ11 EEPROM, maybe 
there is an error in.


Many Greetings
Ulrich

PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Mattis Lind via cctalk]

onsdag 20 september 2017 skrev Rod Smallwood via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org
>:

>
> I installed the RX01 Unibus adapter in slot 5
>
> Then replaced the slot 5 NPG  jumper (RX01 is not DMA) They are underneath
> the motherboard on an 11/94
>
> Next I connected up the RX01 and used original DEC RT-11 v5.4 RX01
> distribution disks.
>
> Then turned on and tried to boot DX.
>
> Same result it says Trying.


Some things to check unless you already done so:

The RX11 (M7846) and  RX211 (M8256) are known working?

Are they correctly configured in regards to address and vector?

Is it possible to access the CSR of the boards through the ODT prompt?

Is it possible to do simple commands through the CSR port using ODT?

After it hangs in the boot can you get into ODT mode and check if the
bootstrap has read in the bootblock to address 0 and onwards ( or whatever
the ROM boot code reads the bootblock to).

/Mattis


> If you have an 11/84 then whats on the KDJ-11 dialog screen would be very
> interesting.
> Which KDJ-11 do you have?
>
> Can you get a picture of your console screen set up to boot from  an RX01
> or RX01?
>
> Rod
>
>
> On 20/09/2017 13:47, Ulrich Tagge via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Hi Rod,  > > I had an similar issue, when trying to boot a RX02 Disk
>> created on
>>
> my > /84 on a /34a. Have bypassed this and have installed a fresh RT11, >
> but had no time to figure out the problem. Would it of interest for > you,
> to get RX02 Images (PDP11GUI) of my RT-11 V5.4 G Distribution > Set? With
> them, you could install your /94 from scratch, ... . > > Many Greetings > >
> Ulrich >
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Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Rod Smallwood via cctalk]

I installed the RX01 Unibus adapter in slot 5

Then replaced the slot 5 NPG  jumper (RX01 is not DMA) They are 
underneath the motherboard on an 11/94


Next I connected up the RX01 and used original DEC RT-11 v5.4 RX01 
distribution disks.


Then turned on and tried to boot DX.

Same result it says Trying.

If you have an 11/84 then whats on the KDJ-11 dialog screen would be 
very interesting.

Which KDJ-11 do you have?

Can you get a picture of your console screen set up to boot from  an 
RX01 or RX01?


Rod


On 20/09/2017 13:47, Ulrich Tagge via cctalk wrote:
Hi Rod,  > > I had an similar issue, when trying to boot a RX02 Disk created on 
my > /84 on a /34a. Have bypassed this and have installed a fresh RT11, 
> but had no time to figure out the problem. Would it of interest for > 
you, to get RX02 Images (PDP11GUI) of my RT-11 V5.4 G Distribution > 
Set? With them, you could install your /94 from scratch, ... . > > Many 
Greetings > > Ulrich >

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Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Ulrich Tagge via cctalk]

Hi Rod,

I had an similar issue, when trying to boot a RX02 Disk created on my 
/84 on a /34a.
Have bypassed this and have installed a fresh RT11, but had no time to 
figure out the problem.
Would it of interest for you, to get RX02 Images (PDP11GUI) of my RT-11 
V5.4 G Distribution Set? With them, you could install your /94 from 
scratch, ... .


Many Greetings

Ulrich

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Rod Smallwood via cctalk]

Hi

   1.   The complete RX02 with cable and disk (initialized and 
system copied /boot to it) boots the 11/73 on an RX02 controller so mode 
is correct.


   2.        The 11/94 boot menu allows you to choose DY0 or DY1 and 
both have been tried after moving the floppy of course.


    3.   As the startup messages appear the disk is being read.


Rod




On 20/09/2017 12:30, Ulrich Tagge via cctalk wrote:

Hi Rod,

I'm sure you are aware about, ... the /94 have a MDM card/module, 
where you can set the NPG jumper via switches. Is this set correct for 
all the slots, no mismatch in counting the small switches?
Have you checked the flat ribbon cable - I had much fun with damaged 
cables?

Have you tried dy0 and dy1?
Is the RX02 set to the correct mode?
The known good 8" disk, is a rx02 disk and not a rx01?

Many Greetings

Ulrich



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Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Ulrich Tagge via cctalk]

Hi Rod,

I'm sure you are aware about, ... the /94 have a MDM card/module, where 
you can set the NPG jumper via switches. Is this set correct for all the 
slots, no mismatch in counting the small switches?

Have you checked the flat ribbon cable - I had much fun with damaged cables?
Have you tried dy0 and dy1?
Is the RX02 set to the correct mode?
The known good 8" disk, is a rx02 disk and not a rx01?

Many Greetings

Ulrich

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Mattis Lind via cctalk]

2017-09-20 11:58 GMT+02:00 Rod Smallwood via cctalk :

> Well I did get the 11/73 booted from RX50 floppy on an RQDX3.
>
> I then went on to get a SCSI (DEC DSP5200) Hard Drive on a CQD220 booting
> and running RT-11 V5.4.
>
> In the process I established that I have a good working RX01 and a good
> working RX02 that both boot RT-11 V5.4 from 8 inch Floppy.
>
> I have the parts for another RX02 and that only lacks the circuit breaker
> on the PSU. (AIRPAX type anybody got one?)
>
> There is a lot of interaction between RT-11v5.4, RQDX3, CQD220 and the
> RX01 and RX02 controllers.
>
> I have read up all the back references (VCF and so on) on this subject but
> I am not sure I fully understand all of the ramifications.
>
>
> So back to the main event, the 11/94.
>
> This is the last of the PDP/11's and is a hybrid.
>
> KJD-11 CPU in a Q-bus back plane bridged to a Unibus.
>
> The KJD works and all of its monitor and boot controls are available via
> the console terminal.
>
> I have Unibus interface cards for both RX01 and RX02.
>
> So grant and terminator cards in the right places and RX02 Unibus card in
> the correct slot.
>
> Connect up the cable (Red stripe to AA on BERG's)
>
> Known bootable RT-11 8 inch floppy in the RX02.
>
> Turn on RX02 then 11/94 (Nice healthy clonk from the drive)
>
> Pick DY off the boot ROM list and sure enough the system starts to load
> from the RX02.
>
> Then it just hangs.
>
> Comments please



Checked the NPG jumper in the backplane for the RX02 board?


/Mattis


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PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

[Rod Smallwood via cctalk]

Well I did get the 11/73 booted from RX50 floppy on an RQDX3.

I then went on to get a SCSI (DEC DSP5200) Hard Drive on a CQD220 
booting and running RT-11 V5.4.


In the process I established that I have a good working RX01 and a good 
working RX02 that both boot RT-11 V5.4 from 8 inch Floppy.


I have the parts for another RX02 and that only lacks the circuit 
breaker on the PSU. (AIRPAX type anybody got one?)


There is a lot of interaction between RT-11v5.4, RQDX3, CQD220 and the 
RX01 and RX02 controllers.


I have read up all the back references (VCF and so on) on this subject 
but I am not sure I fully understand all of the ramifications.



So back to the main event, the 11/94.

This is the last of the PDP/11's and is a hybrid.

KJD-11 CPU in a Q-bus back plane bridged to a Unibus.

The KJD works and all of its monitor and boot controls are available via 
the console terminal.


I have Unibus interface cards for both RX01 and RX02.

So grant and terminator cards in the right places and RX02 Unibus card 
in the correct slot.


Connect up the cable (Red stripe to AA on BERG's)

Known bootable RT-11 8 inch floppy in the RX02.

Turn on RX02 then 11/94 (Nice healthy clonk from the drive)

Pick DY off the boot ROM list and sure enough the system starts to load 
from the RX02.


Then it just hangs.

Comments please


Rod






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