Re: P112 runs RSX-11
On 12/05/2018 05:00 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: > There is a "contact" link on this page: > http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?rsx180 > Maybe it works. > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:48 PM Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: >> >> >> On 12/4/18 7:51 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: >>> > That's all I could find, too. If anyone knows where the source might >>> > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well. >>> >>> I think that's Hector Peraza's site. His email address is listed; you >>> could try writing to him. >>> >>> De >>> >> Subject: Re: Interested in a Z280 SBC >> Posted by >> hperaza >> on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:44:09 GMT >> View Forum Message >> <> >> Reply to Message >> lowen wrote on Wed, 11 October 2017 06:44While I personally would like to >> see a bit more >> coordination of efforts especially in the area of the C compiler, assembler, >> and emulator, I know of >> several efforts by several people already underway. I am very interested in >> the emulation side of >> things, and even going as far as a VHDL or verilog core that could be used >> in an FPGA. With the >> annoying bugs fixed, of course! >> Some of the bugs could even be emulated (if they are not of erratic nature, >> of course). That could >> be useful in case someone wants to test a program on the FPGA version that >> is intended to work >> on the real iron as well. The "compatibility" mode could be controlled by a >> bit in an additional CPU >> control register. >> Which brings up another question: is there any updated list somewhere of the >> known Z280 bugs? >> So far the information available is rather fragmented and incomplete. >> Quote:To all who are involved in doing a compiler, assembler, or emulator: I >> know you've probably >> posted before, but I would like to get a list together of all of these >> efforts and see what >> coordination might be possible. >> OK, here is my list: >> native Z280 (macro)-assembler, preferably M80 or SLR compatible (currently >> working on that) >> debugger (e.g. like DDTZ, but using the single-step capabilities of the >> chip) get UZI280 working >> (haven't even looked at it yet) and add more utilities, etc. same for Fuzix >> port of MP/M better hard >> disk support (e.g. via FDISK utility like the one for the P112, with >> automatic recognition of >> partitions in CP/M and UZI so one will not have to change the BIOS every >> time partitions change) >> better ROM setup? again taking the P112 as an example (i.e. adding disk >> timing parameters to >> the NV RAM, if possible add a simple embedded debugger?) a Verilog or VHDL >> Z280 core, >> perhaps taking T80 as the base. And if I really get the time, would like to >> make something like this, >> so it could be plugged directly into the CPU280 CPU socket. and like Lamar I >> also have my own, >> other niche project - a port of a multitasking, RSX-11M-like OS I wrote many >> years ago for the Z80 >> (now ported to the Z180). The PDP-11 always was my favorite machine, and the >> Z280 has many >> PDP-ish features, including a similar MMU, so for me is an interesting hobby >> project. >> >> > I'd love to see source and to my eyes its the first really new OS on z80 family hardware since the few from near the '80s. I don't happen to have a P112 but versions for other hardware has me interested. I have S100 (Compupro, North*star, AmproLB+, SB180, BCC180, kaypros, and more than a few others. Maybe I should crank a system using real late version Z280s . RSX (RT-11 and others) on PDP-11 is why I have a bunch of Qbus 11s as they are fairly small and friendly. Allison
Re: P112 runs RSX-11
There is a "contact" link on this page: http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?rsx180 Maybe it works. On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:48 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 12/4/18 7:51 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > > That's all I could find, too. If anyone knows where the source might > > > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well. > > > > I think that's Hector Peraza's site. His email address is listed; you > > could try writing to him. > > > > De > > > > Subject: Re: Interested in a Z280 SBC > Posted by > hperaza > on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:44:09 GMT > View Forum Message > <> > Reply to Message > lowen wrote on Wed, 11 October 2017 06:44While I personally would like to see > a bit more > coordination of efforts especially in the area of the C compiler, assembler, > and emulator, I know of > several efforts by several people already underway. I am very interested in > the emulation side of > things, and even going as far as a VHDL or verilog core that could be used in > an FPGA. With the > annoying bugs fixed, of course! > Some of the bugs could even be emulated (if they are not of erratic nature, > of course). That could > be useful in case someone wants to test a program on the FPGA version that is > intended to work > on the real iron as well. The "compatibility" mode could be controlled by a > bit in an additional CPU > control register. > Which brings up another question: is there any updated list somewhere of the > known Z280 bugs? > So far the information available is rather fragmented and incomplete. > Quote:To all who are involved in doing a compiler, assembler, or emulator: I > know you've probably > posted before, but I would like to get a list together of all of these > efforts and see what > coordination might be possible. > OK, here is my list: > native Z280 (macro)-assembler, preferably M80 or SLR compatible (currently > working on that) > debugger (e.g. like DDTZ, but using the single-step capabilities of the chip) > get UZI280 working > (haven't even looked at it yet) and add more utilities, etc. same for Fuzix > port of MP/M better hard > disk support (e.g. via FDISK utility like the one for the P112, with > automatic recognition of > partitions in CP/M and UZI so one will not have to change the BIOS every time > partitions change) > better ROM setup? again taking the P112 as an example (i.e. adding disk > timing parameters to > the NV RAM, if possible add a simple embedded debugger?) a Verilog or VHDL > Z280 core, > perhaps taking T80 as the base. And if I really get the time, would like to > make something like this, > so it could be plugged directly into the CPU280 CPU socket. and like Lamar I > also have my own, > other niche project - a port of a multitasking, RSX-11M-like OS I wrote many > years ago for the Z80 > (now ported to the Z180). The PDP-11 always was my favorite machine, and the > Z280 has many > PDP-ish features, including a similar MMU, so for me is an interesting hobby > project. > > -- mvh Torfinn
Re: P112 runs RSX-11
On 12/4/18 7:51 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > That's all I could find, too. If anyone knows where the source might > > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well. > > I think that's Hector Peraza's site. His email address is listed; you > could try writing to him. > > De > Subject: Re: Interested in a Z280 SBC Posted by hperaza on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:44:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message lowen wrote on Wed, 11 October 2017 06:44While I personally would like to see a bit more coordination of efforts especially in the area of the C compiler, assembler, and emulator, I know of several efforts by several people already underway. I am very interested in the emulation side of things, and even going as far as a VHDL or verilog core that could be used in an FPGA. With the annoying bugs fixed, of course! Some of the bugs could even be emulated (if they are not of erratic nature, of course). That could be useful in case someone wants to test a program on the FPGA version that is intended to work on the real iron as well. The "compatibility" mode could be controlled by a bit in an additional CPU control register. Which brings up another question: is there any updated list somewhere of the known Z280 bugs? So far the information available is rather fragmented and incomplete. Quote:To all who are involved in doing a compiler, assembler, or emulator: I know you've probably posted before, but I would like to get a list together of all of these efforts and see what coordination might be possible. OK, here is my list: native Z280 (macro)-assembler, preferably M80 or SLR compatible (currently working on that) debugger (e.g. like DDTZ, but using the single-step capabilities of the chip) get UZI280 working (haven't even looked at it yet) and add more utilities, etc. same for Fuzix port of MP/M better hard disk support (e.g. via FDISK utility like the one for the P112, with automatic recognition of partitions in CP/M and UZI so one will not have to change the BIOS every time partitions change) better ROM setup? again taking the P112 as an example (i.e. adding disk timing parameters to the NV RAM, if possible add a simple embedded debugger?) a Verilog or VHDL Z280 core, perhaps taking T80 as the base. And if I really get the time, would like to make something like this, so it could be plugged directly into the CPU280 CPU socket. and like Lamar I also have my own, other niche project - a port of a multitasking, RSX-11M-like OS I wrote many years ago for the Z80 (now ported to the Z180). The PDP-11 always was my favorite machine, and the Z280 has many PDP-ish features, including a similar MMU, so for me is an interesting hobby project.
Re: P112 runs RSX-11
> That's all I could find, too. If anyone knows where the source might > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well. I think that's Hector Peraza's site. His email address is listed; you could try writing to him. De
Re: P112 runs RSX-11
On 12/4/18 10:28 AM, Warner Losh wrote: On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 7:45 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: >> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw >> >> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my >> hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge, >> Gitlab, et al. >> >> > I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180 > That's all I could find, too. If anyone knows where the source might be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well. I have two P112's. :-) http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?downloads has two links to download binaries at the bottom for RSX-180 What about the source? Binaries are fun, but the source would be a lot more fun. bill
Re: P112 runs RSX-11
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 7:45 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: > >> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw > >> > >> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my > >> hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge, > >> Gitlab, et al. > >> > >> > > I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180 > > > That's all I could find, too. If anyone knows where the source might > > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well. > > > I have two P112's. :-) > http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?downloads has two links to download binaries at the bottom for RSX-180 Warner
Re: P112 runs RSX-11
On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: >> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw >> >> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my >> hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge, >> Gitlab, et al. >> >> > I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180 > That's all I could find, too. If anyone knows where the source might be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well. I have two P112's. :-) bill
Re: P112 runs RSX-11
On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: > > I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw > > If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my > hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge, > Gitlab, et al. > > I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180 Allison