Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 01:41:53PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I have never had Windows stop working despite not activating it and have > gone at least 6 months without doing so. Despite now working for MS, I > don't know the ins and outs of Windows activation. (I work on embedded > Linux there.) The Windows 7 VM I've been using to run MCP Express hasn't stopped working, but it recently started telling me I need to register to regain full functionality. I haven't figured out what functionality has been limited yet. Its desktop now has a black background with "Unregistered Version" in the lower right hand corner. Has anyone managed to get MCP Express running with Wine on Linux? I've heard of people getting OS/2200 Express running under Wine, but it doesn't have the Windows services MCP Express does. I might consider registering a copy of Windows to run under VirtualBox if Microsoft would stop trying to make the user interface look worse with each new version. I don't mind Windows 7, but newer versions look absolutely horrid. Even the new Office 365 on my Windows 7 PC at work looks terrible. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
Alan, On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 01:41:53PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I have never had Windows stop working despite not activating it and have > gone at least 6 months without doing so. That's encouraging. > I have been using those blogs to remind myself of how it all work. As someone new to MCP they've been a big help. This morning I started reading through the system operations guide, 86000387-512. Some concepts are going to take some getting used to. MCP physical and logical files are a bit different than AS/400 physical and logical files. Also, according to the system operations guide, a CD-ROM is a magnetized disk. I thought all CD-ROMs were optical disks. > I did my day-to-day work with CANDE (Command AND Editor) and with MCP > Express one get to that through MARC. However, when I run the MARC > script, the Windows VM crashes. This blog post: https://Unite.org/wp/tuning-the-mcp-express-installation/ says that other terminal emulators can be used to access the communications interfaces, including MARC and CANDE. Does anyone know how? I've tried connecting with PuTTY to the standard telnet port and the port the included MARC terminal shortcut uses to no avail. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
On 7/2/20 1:05 PM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: Alan, On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:00:00PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Got it installed and running on a Windows 10 VM on my MacBook. Pretty interesting, but I haven't used MCP since '89 and seldom used the ODT (console) on A Series systems when I did, so lots of trying to recall how to do stuff. I got it installed and running on a Windows 7 VM on my 2009 Mac last night. I've never used MCP before, so there's been lots of reading trying to learn how to do stuff. I didn't have much time to work with it last night, so I haven't gotten very far yet. Has anyone attempted to run MCP Express under Wine on Linux? I don't know how long I'll be able to use the VM I currently have it running on. I don't have a Windows license key for it. I have never had Windows stop working despite not activating it and have gone at least 6 months without doing so. Despite now working for MS, I don't know the ins and outs of Windows activation. (I work on embedded Linux there.) I have been using those blogs to remind myself of how it all work. I worked on products where PCs (ET2000 PC compatibles and B2x BTOS systems) interacted with mainframes. Now the joys of block mode terminals are coming back to me. I did my day-to-day work with CANDE (Command AND Editor) and with MCP Express one get to that through MARC. However, when I run the MARC script, the Windows VM crashes. alan
Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
Alan, On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:00:00PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > Got it installed and running on a Windows 10 VM on my MacBook. Pretty > interesting, but I haven't used MCP since '89 and seldom used the ODT > (console) on A Series systems when I did, so lots of trying to recall > how to do stuff. I got it installed and running on a Windows 7 VM on my 2009 Mac last night. I've never used MCP before, so there's been lots of reading trying to learn how to do stuff. I didn't have much time to work with it last night, so I haven't gotten very far yet. Has anyone attempted to run MCP Express under Wine on Linux? I don't know how long I'll be able to use the VM I currently have it running on. I don't have a Windows license key for it. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
On 7/1/20 12:33 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 01/07/2020 19:26, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: I submitted the form last night and got the download link about 8am Pacific time this morning. The download was 2.66G. I haven't installed it yet. alan "The software license expires on July 31st of each calendar year and must be renewed by re-registering with Unisys and then downloading and installing a new package." Maybe I'll wait a few weeks before requesting a licence? Got it installed and running on a Windows 10 VM on my MacBook. Pretty interesting, but I haven't used MCP since '89 and seldom used the ODT (console) on A Series systems when I did, so lots of trying to recall how to do stuff. The disk image and machine config file are stored separately from ClearPath MCP Express, so I should be able to just point the new package to it when renewal time comes up. alan
Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
On 01/07/2020 19:26, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: I submitted the form last night and got the download link about 8am Pacific time this morning. The download was 2.66G. I haven't installed it yet. alan "The software license expires on July 31st of each calendar year and must be renewed by re-registering with Unisys and then downloading and installing a new package." Maybe I'll wait a few weeks before requesting a licence? Antonio -- Antonio Carlini anto...@acarlini.com
Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
On 7/1/20 11:09 AM, Stan Sieler via cctalk wrote: i> From: Alan Perry Why would one get OS/2200 when they can get https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-forward/clearpath-forward-products/clearpath-mcp-software/clearpath-mcp-express ? thanks! As an old MCP user/developer (although outside the lab), that's really interesting to me! Note: you have to register to get the software. That's apparently done by clicking on "Downloads". Then you're presented with a registration form. After submitting it, you're told you'll receive an email. Don't hold your breath. It's been 20 minutes, and no email from Unisys :( (And, no email --> no download) I submitted the form last night and got the download link about 8am Pacific time this morning. The download was 2.66G. I haven't installed it yet. alan
Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)
i> From: Alan Perry > Why would one get OS/2200 when they can get > https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-forward/clearpath-forward-products/clearpath-mcp-software/clearpath-mcp-express > ? thanks! As an old MCP user/developer (although outside the lab), that's really interesting to me! Note: you have to register to get the software. That's apparently done by clicking on "Downloads". Then you're presented with a registration form. After submitting it, you're told you'll receive an email. Don't hold your breath. It's been 20 minutes, and no email from Unisys :( (And, no email --> no download) Stan
