cdrecord dies on CD to CD copy

2001-07-23 Thread Christian Robottom Reis


Hi,

I'm using a vanilla CD-Rom + HP CD-R IDE setup through ide-scsi and sg on
a Linux 2.4.7 box, and I've noticed the following:

when copying to /dev/scd1 (0,1,0) using

cdrecord -v dev=0,1,0 -isosize /dev/scd0

At the end of scd0 cdrecord reports an error (can't copy now, but the gist
of it was input stream ended) and fails to fixate the disc. Basically,
all the data from the CD has been read, but since the reading child dies,
I think cdrecord notices it and dies on the spot. I would very much like
to hear a report that this works - what happens when the source CD ends?
No error message?

The CD recorded was, of course, lost. So I attempted (successfuly) to copy
using the crude:

cat /dev/scd0 | cdrecord -v dev=0,1,0 -waiti -

And this worked, though it reported fifo=0% through 99% of the process.
Is there a way to do this in a more intelligent fashion?

TIA, folks.

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Re: Key2Audio

2001-07-23 Thread schilling

From: Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Currently the newpapers here are writing articles about a new copy
protection scheme, Key2Audio, that CD companies seem to be secretly
applying to new CDs. They claim it makes CDs uncopyable, and that they
even cannot be played on computer CD-ROM drives.

Any comments?

I did not yet see such a new protected CD.

If they are using illegal TOC entries, use Plextor drives.
Return the CD to the vendor after making a copy because it carries a
Compact-Disk logo but isnt red book compliant.

If they have C2 errors on the disk, use Plextor drives, they
have interpolation for uncorrectable audio even when doing DAE.
Return the disk after making a copy because the disk if junk.
(no brand-new CD may have any C2 error at all).

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Re: Where to find the lists archives?

2001-07-23 Thread Stephen Isard

Georg Koss wrote:

 My question is where to find the list archives stated in the
 subscriber confirmation as
 
 ...archived publically on http://lists.debian.org/
 
Try http://www.mail-archive.com/cdwrite@other.debian.org/index.html

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Re: DVD Player not playing music CD-R

2001-07-23 Thread schilling

From: Trenton D. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is there different ways of writing a CD-R with music that could cause it
not to work in my DVD Player?  If so, what types of writing should I
try?
 
p.s.
I have a Sony DVD player.  Since sony owns a couple of Record companies,
it might be possible they designed it that way on purpose to prevent
copying music and listening to it on the DVD Player.


Try different media. In many cases the laser is not compliant and has 
problems.

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Re: Where to find the lists archives?

2001-07-23 Thread James Pearson

 My question is where to find the list archives stated in the
 subscriber confirmation as
 
 ...archived publically on http://lists.debian.org/
 
Try http://www.mail-archive.com/cdwrite@other.debian.org/index.html

Also at:

http://groups.google.com/groups?group=mailing.comp.cdwrite

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Re: Key2Audio

2001-07-23 Thread Johan Vromans

Dave Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 -  Will Philips and/or Sony declare that discs manufactured in this
way are violating the Red Book specifications, to the extent that
they can no longer use the Compact Disc logos on the disc and
packaging?

According to one of the newspaper articles, Sony (in Austria) is one
of the companies that apply copy protection.

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Re: Key2Audio

2001-07-23 Thread schilling

From: Dave Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Several interesting questions come to mind:

-  Are there CD-ROM drives which can already rip these discs
   accurately, by implementing error concealment on the data sent over
   the bus interface?  I'd be interested to see how well Plextor
   drives do, as these have an extremely good reputation for ripping
   quality.

Plextor

   
-  Will CD-ROM drive vendors upgrade their firmware to add error
   concealment, or start shipping new models which have it?  If so,
   will the music labels file criminal charges against the drive
   manufacturers, claiming that such firmware violates the Digital
   Millennium Copyright Act by creating a copy-protection
   circumvention device?

No comments ;-) Sorry the information from several drive vendors
is not intended to become public 

-  Will Philips and/or Sony declare that discs manufactured in this
   way are violating the Red Book specifications, to the extent that
   they can no longer use the Compact Disc logos on the disc and
   packaging?

I believe that any customer may go and sue the vendors of such disks.
These disks definitely violate the Red book and must not carry the compat
disk logo. (at least the try from Bertelsmann last year had a CD logo).
In Europe it is no problem to go to a consumer protection organisation
and they will for and sue the vendors because the products do not
have a promised property.

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Re: Plextor 16/10/40A Problems

2001-07-23 Thread schilling

From: Georg Koss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I installed my brand-new Plextor 16/10/40 ATAPI CD-RW today on my
Apple-G4/DebianGNU/Linux-Box running Woody (rsync-kernel 2.4.7-pre7
from BenH-tree).

Scsi-ide enabled, cdrecord -scanbus found the device at 0,0,0 - so far
so good.

When I tried=20
cdrecord -v -dummy fs=3D10m driveropts=3Dburnproof speed=3D16 ./foo.iso

it fails with following output (complete -v output at the mail-end):

cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error=
=20
CDB:  55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 26 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x26 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in parameter list) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)=20
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s
DMA addr: 0x size: 0 - using copy buffer
cdrecord: fifo had 156 puts and 156 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.

In the man cdrecord I read the diagnosis-chapter without success
(couldn't find scsierrs.c on my system BTW - where do I have to look
for).

Cdrecord 1.9 (powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J=F6rg Sch=
illing

A general note: if you have problems, you never should use outdated versions...

http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/problems.html

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Re: Key2Audio

2001-07-23 Thread Joerg Schilling

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 If they have C2 errors on the disk, use Plextor drives, they
 have interpolation for uncorrectable audio even when doing DAE.
 Return the disk after making a copy because the disk if junk.
 (no brand-new CD may have any C2 error at all).

Is there any way to query a Plextor CD-ROM or CD-RW drive to find
the number of C1 or C2 errors on a disc, or the number of error
concealment operations which occurred?

RTFM ;-)

readcd -c2scan

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Re: cdrecord dies on CD to CD copy

2001-07-23 Thread Christian Robottom Reis

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At the end of scd0 cdrecord reports an error (can't copy now, but the gist
 of it was input stream ended) and fails to fixate the disc. Basically,
 all the data from the CD has been read, but since the reading child dies,
 I think cdrecord notices it and dies on the spot. I would very much like
 to hear a report that this works - what happens when the source CD ends?
 No error message?

 Read README.copy  README.verify

I'm afraid I wasn't logging with the proper facility, so the error is
lost. It's basically an error reporting the input stream ended. From what
I can grasp from README.copy the problem is probably the two unreadable
sectors at the end of the disk, perhaps combined with read-ahead on the
device. Apart from using sdd or readcd, is the only way to avoid this
subtracting the two sectors from the sector count of the copy?

 cat /dev/scd0 | cdrecord -v dev=0,1,0 -waiti -

 And this worked, though it reported fifo=0% through 99% of the process.
 Is there a way to do this in a more intelligent fashion?

 If this works, then there is a cat/kernel bug!

It worked fine (though the buffer reported 0% all the way). Why shouldn't
it? Would a 0% fifo break the recording?

I switched to using dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=64k as the source of the pipe and
the buffer reported being 100% full all the way; it worked fine,
additionally.

Perhaps a pointer to the README.copy/verify files could be included in
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/problems.html
or, if this is a faq, add a little FAQ section so people aren't
overwhelmed by the 35 README files distributed with cdrecord. ;)

Take care,
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Re: cdrecord dies on CD to CD copy

2001-07-23 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Christian Robottom Reis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Read README.copy  README.verify

I'm afraid I wasn't logging with the proper facility, so the error is
lost. It's basically an error reporting the input stream ended. From what
I can grasp from README.copy the problem is probably the two unreadable
sectors at the end of the disk, perhaps combined with read-ahead on the
device. Apart from using sdd or readcd, is the only way to avoid this
subtracting the two sectors from the sector count of the copy?



I switched to using dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=64k as the source of the pipe and
the buffer reported being 100% full all the way; it worked fine,
additionally.

Don't do that, cdrecord does the job better. In any case, it is a good
idea not to copy without image.

Perhaps a pointer to the README.copy/verify files could be included in
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/problems.html
or, if this is a faq, add a little FAQ section so people aren't
overwhelmed by the 35 README files distributed with cdrecord. ;)

Mmmm... there are 38 README's ;-)

Jörg

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Re: Key2Audio

2001-07-23 Thread Joerg Schilling


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 23 21:44:17 2001

 RTFM ;-)

Ummm... as of cdrtools 1.11a06, the c2scan option is not
documented in the man page for readcd, or any of the other
man pages, or in any of the AN* announcement files.  The
only place it's mentioned, as far as I can tell, is in the
readcd --help output.

Hence, RTFM is an answer which really doesn't apply in this
case, since TFM doesn't have anything to R!

Now, you could have said Use the Source, Luke! and it would
have applied well enough ;-)


And may the source be always with you ...

Here is the new part of the man page:

 -c2scan
  Scans the whole  CD  or  the  range  specified  by  the
  sectors=range  for C2 errors. C2 errors are errors that
  are uncorrectable after the second stage of the 24/28 +
  28/32  Reed  Solomon  correction  system at audio level
  (2352 bytes sector size). If an audio CD has C2 errors,
  interpolation  is  needed to hide the errors. If a data
  CD has C2  errors,  these  errors  are  in  most  cases
  corrected by the ECC/EDC code that makes 2352 bytes out
  of 2048 data bytes. The ECC/EDC code should be able  to
  correct about 100 C2 error bytes per sector.


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Re: Key2Audio

2001-07-23 Thread Dave Platt

 RTFM ;-)

Ummm... as of cdrtools 1.11a06, the c2scan option is not
documented in the man page for readcd, or any of the other
man pages, or in any of the AN* announcement files.  The
only place it's mentioned, as far as I can tell, is in the
readcd --help output.

Hence, RTFM is an answer which really doesn't apply in this
case, since TFM doesn't have anything to R!

Now, you could have said Use the Source, Luke! and it would
have applied well enough ;-)


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Re: Key2Audio

2001-07-23 Thread Joerg Schilling


From: Dave Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I ran into a very interesting result while trying this feature
out, using my IDE/ATAPI drive under SCSI emulation.  The first
CD I tried reported some C2 errors:

radagast:~$ readcd dev=1,0,0 --c2scan
Capacity: 296830 Blocks = 593660 kBytes = 579 MBytes = 607 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (1,0,0) disk to file '/dev/null'
end:296830
C2 in sector: 179819 first at byte:  160 (0xF0) total: 2168 errors
C2 in sector: 179820 first at byte:0 (0xFF) total:  376 errors
C2 in sector: 224619 first at byte: 1102 (0x02) total:  524 errors
C2 in sector: 224620 first at byte:4 (0x0F) total: 1559 errors
C2 in sector: 224621 first at byte:0 (0xF0) total:  156 errors
addr:   296830 cnt: 28
Time total: 406.963sec
Read 767004.08 kB at 1884.7 kB/sec.
C2 errors total: 4783 bytes in 5 sectors on disk
C2 errors rate: 0.000685% 

So did the second CD:

and the errors are in the same place!  The third CD showed
a very similar pattern:

My guess is that this drive (a Toshiba XM-6402B) has a firmware
problem affecting Red Book operations, but I can't be sure of
that.

I believe so. IIRC, there was a discussion in de.comp.l*.brenner
some time ago...

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Cdrecord: problems with NT

2001-07-23 Thread Baruch . Sabbah



I'm working with the latest cdrecord win32 alfa version (V1.11a04  24/6/01).
   The Mkisofs and cygwin1.dll are also the latest version.

   Statistically,  only 1 out of 4 records attempts succeed.
   Per the other 3, I'm encountering SCSI error write_g1 0x8 (Busy).
   This error  always comes up between recording of the 1 to 14 Mb.
Once it passes 14Mb with no error, it will complete the record successfully
(Regardless of ISO file size).
The problem occurs in:  Dummy or real mode, BurnFree on or off, Speed ranges
4  to 12.

   Some other CD record programs are working OK (EasyCD, DirectCD ...).

   Hereby computer details:

  Computer:  DELL Precision 330 (Pentium 4 1.5 Ghz).
   Operating System:  Windows NT 4.0 + Service Pack 6.
   SCSI controller:Adaptec 29160N
   ASPI  layer:   Adaptec ASPI  Version 4.60.

 Hereby operation details:

cdrecord.exe dev=2,1,0 speed=12 -v -nofix -dummy driveropts=burnproof -eject
./cdburn.iso


Cdrecord 1.11a04 (i586-pc-cygwin) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 J


örg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
Driveropts: 'burnproof'
atapi: -1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC LINKED
Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR '
Identifikation : 'CD-R   PX-W1210S'
Revision   : '1.01'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R16 SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P
RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 4194304 = 4096 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data   45 MB
Total size:  52 MB (05:11.06) = 23330 sectors
Lout start:  52 MB (05:13/05) = 23330 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 4
  Is not unrestricted
  Is not erasable
  Disk sub type: Medium Type C, low Beta category (C-) (6)
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11569 (97:27/56)
  ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 12
Manufacturer: Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 336519
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 12 in dummy mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting dummy write in 9 seconds.  
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is ON.
Starting new track at sector: 0

Track 01:   0 of  45 MB written.
Track 01:   1 of  45 MB written (fifo  98%).
Track 01:   2 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   3 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   4 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   5 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   6 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   7 of  45 MB written (fifo  98%).
Track 01:   8 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   9 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  10 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  11 of  45 MB written (fifo 100%).

./cdrecord I/O error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB: 2A 00 00 00 0E A7 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x8 (BUSY)
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s
sens bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
write track data: error after 12380160 bytes
Writing  time:   14.562s


I will appreciate your assistance.

Baruch Sabbah



Re: Cdrecord: problems with NT

2001-07-23 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm working with the latest cdrecord win32 alfa version (V1.11a04  24/6/01).
   The Mkisofs and cygwin1.dll are also the latest version.

   Statistically,  only 1 out of 4 records attempts succeed.
   Per the other 3, I'm encountering SCSI error write_g1 0x8 (Busy).
   This error  always comes up between recording of the 1 to 14 Mb.
Once it passes 14Mb with no error, it will complete the record successfully
(Regardless of ISO file size).
The problem occurs in:  Dummy or real mode, BurnFree on or off, Speed ranges

You did not disable CD change detection.

Read README.win32

Jörg

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