Re: License issue?

2005-08-19 Thread Bill Davidsen




Joerg Schilling wrote:

  Alvaro Lopez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
Hi all,

   I have been reading the dvd+rw-tools FAQ and I have found this in
   there:

===
Version 5.6 adds support for Solaris 2.x [commercial licensing terms
for distribution on Solaris are to be settled with Inserve
Technology].
===

  
  
As the program claims to use the GPL, such note would not be legal
and commercial use cannot be limited to a single company.


You may be right in Europe, in the USA if I hold the copyright I may
grant several non-exclusive licenses under different terms. It's not
even unusual. With commercial software I may sell a right to use
quantity one to an end user, a site or company license to a large
organization, and a right to duplicate and resell to another (if I
trust them to pay royalties). And I might grant a free right to use to
a charity if I was a nice person.
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Re: License issue?

2005-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri 19 Aug 2005 00:32:53 NZST +1200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> > As the program claims to use the GPL, such note would not be legal
> > and commercial use cannot be limited to a single company.
>
> > Once you put some code under a OSI compliant license, you cannot
> > give someone else exclusive rights anymore.
>
> How very interesting. I remember a certain Mr Schilling trying to
> restrict the rights to cdrecord away from the GPL for a certain named
> company.

Trying to troll again?

As you are on this list for a long time, I would expect that you know
that a company was named only because this company did violate the GPL.

Jörg

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Re: License issue?

2005-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:41:20PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Once you put some code under a OSI compliant license, you cannot
> > give someone else exclusive rights anymore.
>
> That is not correct.
>
> The copyright holder can give the code to Microsoft and say, "Here, use
> this in the next version of Windows any way you like."  Microsoft will
> *not* be under the obligations of the GPL.

Why would someone need such a special license?
Only in order to make hidden changes.

If there was any hope to get customers that are interested in hidden
changes, I would expect a different text.

Jörg

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Re: License issue?

2005-08-19 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 19 Aug 2005 00:32:53 NZST +1200, Joerg Schilling wrote:

> As the program claims to use the GPL, such note would not be legal
> and commercial use cannot be limited to a single company.

> Once you put some code under a OSI compliant license, you cannot
> give someone else exclusive rights anymore.

How very interesting. I remember a certain Mr Schilling trying to
restrict the rights to cdrecord away from the GPL for a certain named
company.

Volker

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Re: License issue?

2005-08-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:41:20PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Once you put some code under a OSI compliant license, you cannot
> give someone else exclusive rights anymore.

That is not correct.

The copyright holder can give the code to Microsoft and say, "Here, use
this in the next version of Windows any way you like."  Microsoft will
*not* be under the obligations of the GPL.

However, if Microsoft takes the GPL-licensed version of the software
and incorporates it into Windows, then they *would* have to comply with
the terms of the GPL.


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Re: License issue?

2005-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:43:59PM +0100, Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote:
> > ===
> > Version 5.6 adds support for Solaris 2.x [commercial licensing terms
> > for distribution on Solaris are to be settled with Inserve
> > Technology].
> > ===
> > 
> >   I am wondering how is it possible to this be compatible with the GPL
> >   license (which is the only license I have found on
> >   dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8/LICENSE file).
>
> The person who writes the software holds the copyright on it.
> The copyright holder may release the software to various people or
> organizations under as many licenses as he likes.

True but irelevent:

The source has already been published under GPL that allows a commercial
distribution of derived binaries if you include source.

Jörg

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