Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-20 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello,

till today I have never tried to write + media on my writer...

I have one media now:

dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
 Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
 Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
 Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #0:4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #1:2.4x1385=3324KB/s
 Write Speed #2:2.0x1385=2770KB/s
 Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
 Media Book Type:   A1h, DVD+R book [revision 1]
 Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
READ DISC INFORMATION:
 Disc status:   blank
 Number of Sessions:1
 State of Last Session: empty
 Number of Tracks:  1
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
 Track State:   blank
 Track Start Address:   0*2KB
 Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
 Free Blocks:   2295104*2KB
 Track Size:2295104*2KB

Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):

#!/bin/tcsh

setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m speed=1 
-eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -

(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)

What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
compatibility?

Thank you very much,

Grégoire
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Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-20 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello,

till today I have never tried to write + media on my writer...

I have one media now:

dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
 Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
 Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
 Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #0:4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #1:2.4x1385=3324KB/s
 Write Speed #2:2.0x1385=2770KB/s
 Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
 Media Book Type:   A1h, DVD+R book [revision 1]
 Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
READ DISC INFORMATION:
 Disc status:   blank
 Number of Sessions:1
 State of Last Session: empty
 Number of Tracks:  1
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
 Track State:   blank
 Track Start Address:   0*2KB
 Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
 Free Blocks:   2295104*2KB
 Track Size:2295104*2KB

Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):

#!/bin/tcsh

setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m 
speed=1 -eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -

(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)

What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
compatibility?

Thank you very much,

Grégoire
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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-20 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:58:51PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:

> The same command as above

:-) Great, I was thinking cdrecord-prodvd didn't support + media, nice
to know it's false!!!

> Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.

What's then the right invocation?

Thank you very much,

Grégoire
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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Gregoire Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):

>#!/bin/tcsh

>setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
>setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
>mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m speed=1 
>-eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -

>(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)

>What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
>compatibility?

The same command as above

Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.

Jörg

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-21 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:58:51PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >From: Gregoire Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):
> 
> >#!/bin/tcsh
> 
> >setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
> >setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
> >mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m speed=1 
> >-eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -
> 
> >(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)
> 
> >What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
> >compatibility?
> 
> The same command as above

Well, not a success:

mkisofs: Warning: -follow-links does not always work correctly; be careful.
mkisofs: Warning: -follow-links does not always work correctly; be careful.
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: 'ATAPI:0,0,0'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha.
Warning: There may be fatal problems.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'.
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'SONY'
Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-500A '
Revision   : '2.0h'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: DVD+R
Profile: DVD+R (current)
Profile: DVD+RW 
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite 
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite 
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording 
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+R driver (mmc_dvdplusr).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 4718592 = 4608 KB
FIFO size  : 67108864 = 65536 KB
Track 01: data  3573 MB
Total size: 3573 MB = 1829399 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Blocks total: 2295104 Blocks current: 2295104 Blocks remaining: 465705
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 9 seconds.  0.27% done, estimate finish 
Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  0.55% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  0.82% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  1.09% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  1.37% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:53:35 2004
   8 seconds.  1.64% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:53:22 2004
   0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:4 of 3573 MB written (fifo  99%) [buf  92%]  11.6x.cdrecord-prodvd: 
Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 08 B8 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: F1 00 03 FF FD 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, deferred error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk -196608 (valid) 
cmd finished after 63.710s timeout 100s

write track data: error after 4571136 bytes
cdrecord-prodvd: A write error occured.
cdrecord-prodvd: Please properly read the error message above.
Writing  time:   69.045s
Average write speed  39.2x.
Fixating...
Fixating time:0.002s
cdrecord-prodvd: fifo had 1095 puts and 73 gets.
cdrecord-prodvd: fifo was 0 times empty and 8 times full, min fill was 99%.

> Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.

Also for that point, I have read the doc, but didn't find any info on what I should
put instaed, anyone could give me the answer?

Thank you very much,

Grégoire
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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote:

From: Gregoire Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   

 

Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):
   

 

#!/bin/tcsh
   

 

setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m speed=1 -eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -
   

 

(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)
   

 

What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
compatibility?
   

The same command as above

Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.
 

I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses DMA with 
ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and check, I replaced the 
CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit which doesn't work with anything.

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-22 Thread csj
On 22. April 2004 at 7:06AM -0400,
Rob Bogus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Joerg Schilling wrote:

[...]

> >The same command as above
> >
> >Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
> >is s slow.
> 
> I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
> DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
> check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
> which doesn't work with anything.

I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.


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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-23 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> >The same command as above
>> >
>> >Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
>> >is s slow.
>> 
>> I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
>> DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
>> check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
>> which doesn't work with anything.

>I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
>about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
>use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.


This is the general problem with Linux :-(

They invent a new incompatible interface every even year

If you have problems, ask the Linux kernel people.

Jörg

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-23 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 02:17:03PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >> >The same command as above
> >> >
> >> >Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
> >> >is s slow.
> >> 
> >> I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
> >> DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
> >> check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
> >> which doesn't work with anything.
> 
> >I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
> >about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
> >use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.
> 
> 
> This is the general problem with Linux :-(
> 
> They invent a new incompatible interface every even year
> 
> If you have problems, ask the Linux kernel people.

Is that to be understood as my command was good and I use DMA?

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-24 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

 

The same command as above

Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
is s slow.
   

I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
which doesn't work with anything.
 

 

I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.
   



This is the general problem with Linux :-(

They invent a new incompatible interface every even year

If you have problems, ask the Linux kernel people.
 

How would the kernel people know what your software does. to restate, 
cdrecord seems to use DMA with 2.6, write audio very fast with little or 
no CPU use. Does pro-dvd also use DMA? That's a yes/no question, 
although any clarification would be useful.

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-20 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:58:51PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:

> The same command as above

:-) Great, I was thinking cdrecord-prodvd didn't support + media, nice
to know it's false!!!

> Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.

What's then the right invocation?

Thank you very much,

Grégoire
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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Gregoire Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):

>#!/bin/tcsh

>setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
>setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
>mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m 
>speed=1 -eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -

>(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)

>What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
>compatibility?

The same command as above

Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.

Jörg

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-21 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:58:51PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >From: Gregoire Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):
> 
> >#!/bin/tcsh
> 
> >setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
> >setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
> >mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m 
> >speed=1 -eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -
> 
> >(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)
> 
> >What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
> >compatibility?
> 
> The same command as above

Well, not a success:

mkisofs: Warning: -follow-links does not always work correctly; be careful.
mkisofs: Warning: -follow-links does not always work correctly; be careful.
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: 
private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: 'ATAPI:0,0,0'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha.
Warning: There may be fatal problems.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'.
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'SONY'
Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-500A '
Revision   : '2.0h'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: DVD+R
Profile: DVD+R (current)
Profile: DVD+RW 
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite 
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite 
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording 
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+R driver (mmc_dvdplusr).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 4718592 = 4608 KB
FIFO size  : 67108864 = 65536 KB
Track 01: data  3573 MB
Total size: 3573 MB = 1829399 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Blocks total: 2295104 Blocks current: 2295104 Blocks remaining: 465705
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 9 seconds.  0.27% done, estimate 
finish Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  0.55% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  0.82% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  1.09% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:52:22 2004
  1.37% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:53:35 2004
   8 seconds.  1.64% done, estimate finish Wed Apr 21 22:53:22 2004
   0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:4 of 3573 MB written (fifo  99%) [buf  92%]  
11.6x.cdrecord-prodvd: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 08 B8 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: F1 00 03 FF FD 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, deferred error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk -196608 (valid) 
cmd finished after 63.710s timeout 100s

write track data: error after 4571136 bytes
cdrecord-prodvd: A write error occured.
cdrecord-prodvd: Please properly read the error message above.
Writing  time:   69.045s
Average write speed  39.2x.
Fixating...
Fixating time:0.002s
cdrecord-prodvd: fifo had 1095 puts and 73 gets.
cdrecord-prodvd: fifo was 0 times empty and 8 times full, min fill was 99%.

> Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.

Also for that point, I have read the doc, but didn't find any info on what I 
should
put instaed, anyone could give me the answer?

Thank you very much,

Grégoire
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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-22 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote:
From: Gregoire Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   

 

Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):
   

 

#!/bin/tcsh
   

 

setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m speed=1 -eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -
   

 

(I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)
   

 

What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
compatibility?
   

The same command as above
Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing is s slow.
 

I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses DMA with 
ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and check, I replaced the 
CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit which doesn't work with anything.

--
E. Robert Bogusta
 It seemed like a good idea at the time


Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-22 Thread csj
On 22. April 2004 at 7:06AM -0400,
Rob Bogus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Joerg Schilling wrote:

[...]

> >The same command as above
> >
> >Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
> >is s slow.
> 
> I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
> DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
> check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
> which doesn't work with anything.

I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.



Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-23 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> >The same command as above
>> >
>> >Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
>> >is s slow.
>> 
>> I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
>> DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
>> check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
>> which doesn't work with anything.

>I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
>about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
>use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.


This is the general problem with Linux :-(

They invent a new incompatible interface every even year

If you have problems, ask the Linux kernel people.

Jörg

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-23 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 02:17:03PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >> >The same command as above
> >> >
> >> >Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
> >> >is s slow.
> >> 
> >> I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
> >> DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
> >> check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
> >> which doesn't work with anything.
> 
> >I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
> >about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
> >use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.
> 
> 
> This is the general problem with Linux :-(
> 
> They invent a new incompatible interface every even year
> 
> If you have problems, ask the Linux kernel people.

Is that to be understood as my command was good and I use DMA?

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R?

2004-04-24 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

 

The same command as above
Note that with dev=ATAPI: you will never get DMA and writing
is s slow.
   

I thought that had been fixed, I would swear that cdrecord uses
DMA with ATAPI and 2.6 kernels. Now I have to go back and
check, I replaced the CD-R drive with an unsupported DVD unit
which doesn't work with anything.
 

 

I'm a bit confused myself.  The documentation isn't too clear
about the difference between dev=ATA and dev=ATAPI.  I tend to
use dev=ATA with linux 2.6.
   


This is the general problem with Linux :-(
They invent a new incompatible interface every even year
If you have problems, ask the Linux kernel people.
 

How would the kernel people know what your software does. to restate, 
cdrecord seems to use DMA with 2.6, write audio very fast with little or 
no CPU use. Does pro-dvd also use DMA? That's a yes/no question, 
although any clarification would be useful.

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-21 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:40:56PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:

Could I use this:

growisofs -dry-run -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc 
obs=32k seek=0'

I mean without the -dry-run? It seems it don't do anything with it...
In my /data/dvd/vdrsync I got the VIDEO_TS dir.

> Hello,
> 
> till today I have never tried to write + media on my writer...
> 
> I have one media now:
> 
> dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
> INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
> GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
>  Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
>  Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
>  Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s
>  Write Speed #0:4.0x1385=5540KB/s
>  Write Speed #1:2.4x1385=3324KB/s
>  Write Speed #2:2.0x1385=2770KB/s
>  Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
> READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
>  Media Book Type:   A1h, DVD+R book [revision 1]
>  Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
> READ DISC INFORMATION:
>  Disc status:   blank
>  Number of Sessions:1
>  State of Last Session: empty
>  Number of Tracks:  1
> READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
>  Track State:   blank
>  Track Start Address:   0*2KB
>  Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
>  Free Blocks:   2295104*2KB
>  Track Size:2295104*2KB
> 
> Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):
> 
> #!/bin/tcsh
> 
> setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
> setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
> mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m speed=1 
> -eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -
> 
> (I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)
> 
> What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
> compatibility?

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-21 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 11:11:09PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:40:56PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:
> 
> Could I use this:
> 
> growisofs -dry-run -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync
> Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc 
> obs=32k seek=0'
> 
> I mean without the -dry-run? It seems it don't do anything with it...
> In my /data/dvd/vdrsync I got the VIDEO_TS dir.

Well, not a success:

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP
/data/dvd/vdrsync
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |
builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1385KBps.
:-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h]: Invalid argument
builtin_dd: 2256*2KB out @ average 0.1x1385KBps
:-( write failed: Invalid argument
/dev/hdc: flushing cache
/dev/hdc: closing track
/dev/hdc: closing disc
/dev/hdc: reloading tray

dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
 Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
 Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
 Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #0:4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #1:2.4x1385=3324KB/s
 Write Speed #2:2.0x1385=2770KB/s
 Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
 Media Book Type:   A1h, DVD+R book [revision 1]
 Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
READ DISC INFORMATION:
 Disc status:   blank
 Number of Sessions:1
 State of Last Session: empty
 Number of Tracks:  1
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
 Track State:   blank
 Track Start Address:   0*2KB
 Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
 Free Blocks:   2295104*2KB
 Track Size:2295104*2KB

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-23 Thread Andy Polyakov
> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP
> /data/dvd/vdrsync
> Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |
> builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
> /dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1385KBps.
> :-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h]: Invalid argument
> builtin_dd: 2256*2KB out @ average 0.1x1385KBps

If below dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, then I'd
say that it means only one thing: poor media support by your firmware
(or poor media quality).

> dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
> INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
> GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
>  Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
>  Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
  ^ Everything that follows / is kind of
common suffix [same suffixes can be observed from different media
manufacturers]. As far as I understand this suffix is used to pick laser
power from a table in firmware. This means that new suffix might require
a firmware upgrade. And it's first time I observe /0R...

>  Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s

You *might* help to minimize the write speed with -speed=1. Note that
elder versions of growisofs didn't even try to control DVD+R recording
velocity, so you might have to upgrade. Keep in mind that -speed=1
essentially means "pick *lowest* speed among those offered by unit,"
meaning that you can observe that recording will still be performed at
higher velocity.

>  Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
> READ DISC INFORMATION:
>  Disc status:   blank
  ^ This is the very reason why I wrote "if
this dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, it means poor
media support or poor media." It looks as if the unit filled the buffer,
but didn't actually managed to record a single sector to the media. A.


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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-25 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:15:16AM +0200, Andy Polyakov wrote:

> If below dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, then I'd
> say that it means only one thing: poor media support by your firmware
> (or poor media quality).

Another media that my Sony don't want to write to :-(

>   ^ Everything that follows / is kind of
> common suffix [same suffixes can be observed from different media
> manufacturers]. As far as I understand this suffix is used to pick laser
> power from a table in firmware. This means that new suffix might require
> a firmware upgrade. And it's first time I observe /0R...

I think I already got the latest firmware from Sony...

> You *might* help to minimize the write speed with -speed=1. Note that
> elder versions of growisofs didn't even try to control DVD+R recording
> velocity, so you might have to upgrade. Keep in mind that -speed=1
> essentially means "pick *lowest* speed among those offered by unit,"
> meaning that you can observe that recording will still be performed at
> higher velocity.

I'll try that one :-)

>   ^ This is the very reason why I wrote "if
> this dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, it means poor
> media support or poor media." It looks as if the unit filled the buffer,
> but didn't actually managed to record a single sector to the media. A.


In case it works with -speed=1, I'll report here :-)

Thank you very much,

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 04:02:26PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:
> I think I already got the latest firmware from Sony...

The word "latest" is a big red flag for me.  If you just want to say
that you don't know what version of the firmware you have, then say
that.  Don't ever say "I have the latest..." because then we'll assume
that you don't know what version you have *and* that you don't know
which version is the newest at the time of your writing.

This applies to all the different forms of end-user support that I'm
involved in, not just CD/DVD writer firmware.  If you come into #debian
and say you "have the latest kernel", and it turns out you're actually
running 2.2.20-idepci because you just hit Enter on the Debian 3.0
installer's boot prompt, expect to be ridiculed. ;-)


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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-26 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:18:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> The word "latest" is a big red flag for me.  If you just want to say
> that you don't know what version of the firmware you have, then say
> that.  Don't ever say "I have the latest..." because then we'll assume
> that you don't know what version you have *and* that you don't know
> which version is the newest at the time of your writing.

Please read the beginning of the thread where you could read the
firmware of my drive... which is the latest Sony released, at least on
today.

Why are yu assuming all other are stupid and don't know there firmware
is a mystery for me, but doesn't matter ;-(

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-21 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:40:56PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:

Could I use this:

growisofs -dry-run -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP 
/data/dvd/vdrsync
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |builtin_dd 
of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'

I mean without the -dry-run? It seems it don't do anything with it...
In my /data/dvd/vdrsync I got the VIDEO_TS dir.

> Hello,
> 
> till today I have never tried to write + media on my writer...
> 
> I have one media now:
> 
> dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
> INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
> GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
>  Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
>  Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
>  Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s
>  Write Speed #0:4.0x1385=5540KB/s
>  Write Speed #1:2.4x1385=3324KB/s
>  Write Speed #2:2.0x1385=2770KB/s
>  Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
> READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
>  Media Book Type:   A1h, DVD+R book [revision 1]
>  Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
> READ DISC INFORMATION:
>  Disc status:   blank
>  Number of Sessions:1
>  State of Last Session: empty
>  Number of Tracks:  1
> READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
>  Track State:   blank
>  Track Start Address:   0*2KB
>  Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
>  Free Blocks:   2295104*2KB
>  Track Size:2295104*2KB
> 
> Normally, I use this script to write my DVD (video):
> 
> #!/bin/tcsh
> 
> setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -f -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
> setenv CDR_SECURITY "8:d ... "
> mkisofs -dvd-video -f -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 fs=64m 
> speed=1 -eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -
> 
> (I am running kernel 2.6.5-mm6)
> 
> What should I do to use the DVD+R and become a maximum DVD video
> compatibility?

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-21 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 11:11:09PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:40:56PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:
> 
> Could I use this:
> 
> growisofs -dry-run -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP 
> /data/dvd/vdrsync
> Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |builtin_dd 
> of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
> 
> I mean without the -dry-run? It seems it don't do anything with it...
> In my /data/dvd/vdrsync I got the VIDEO_TS dir.

Well, not a success:

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP
/data/dvd/vdrsync
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |
builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1385KBps.
:-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h]: Invalid argument
builtin_dd: 2256*2KB out @ average 0.1x1385KBps
:-( write failed: Invalid argument
/dev/hdc: flushing cache
/dev/hdc: closing track
/dev/hdc: closing disc
/dev/hdc: reloading tray

dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
 Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
 Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
 Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #0:4.0x1385=5540KB/s
 Write Speed #1:2.4x1385=3324KB/s
 Write Speed #2:2.0x1385=2770KB/s
 Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
 Media Book Type:   A1h, DVD+R book [revision 1]
 Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
READ DISC INFORMATION:
 Disc status:   blank
 Number of Sessions:1
 State of Last Session: empty
 Number of Tracks:  1
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
 Track State:   blank
 Track Start Address:   0*2KB
 Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
 Free Blocks:   2295104*2KB
 Track Size:2295104*2KB

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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-23 Thread Andy Polyakov
> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP
> /data/dvd/vdrsync
> Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video -V LMARLT-FP /data/dvd/vdrsync |
> builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
> /dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1385KBps.
> :-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h]: Invalid argument
> builtin_dd: 2256*2KB out @ average 0.1x1385KBps

If below dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, then I'd
say that it means only one thing: poor media support by your firmware
(or poor media quality).

> dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
> INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-500A ][2.0h]
> GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
>  Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
>  Media ID:  POMSA001/0R
  ^ Everything that follows / is kind of
common suffix [same suffixes can be observed from different media
manufacturers]. As far as I understand this suffix is used to pick laser
power from a table in firmware. This means that new suffix might require
a firmware upgrade. And it's first time I observe /0R...

>  Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s

You *might* help to minimize the write speed with -speed=1. Note that
elder versions of growisofs didn't even try to control DVD+R recording
velocity, so you might have to upgrade. Keep in mind that -speed=1
essentially means "pick *lowest* speed among those offered by unit,"
meaning that you can observe that recording will still be performed at
higher velocity.

>  Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>  Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
> READ DISC INFORMATION:
>  Disc status:   blank
  ^ This is the very reason why I wrote "if
this dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, it means poor
media support or poor media." It looks as if the unit filled the buffer,
but didn't actually managed to record a single sector to the media. A.



Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-25 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:15:16AM +0200, Andy Polyakov wrote:

> If below dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, then I'd
> say that it means only one thing: poor media support by your firmware
> (or poor media quality).

Another media that my Sony don't want to write to :-(

>   ^ Everything that follows / is kind of
> common suffix [same suffixes can be observed from different media
> manufacturers]. As far as I understand this suffix is used to pick laser
> power from a table in firmware. This means that new suffix might require
> a firmware upgrade. And it's first time I observe /0R...

I think I already got the latest firmware from Sony...

> You *might* help to minimize the write speed with -speed=1. Note that
> elder versions of growisofs didn't even try to control DVD+R recording
> velocity, so you might have to upgrade. Keep in mind that -speed=1
> essentially means "pick *lowest* speed among those offered by unit,"
> meaning that you can observe that recording will still be performed at
> higher velocity.

I'll try that one :-)

>   ^ This is the very reason why I wrote "if
> this dvd+rw-mediainfo output is for resulting recording, it means poor
> media support or poor media." It looks as if the unit filled the buffer,
> but didn't actually managed to record a single sector to the media. A.


In case it works with -speed=1, I'll report here :-)

Thank you very much,

Grégoire
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Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 04:02:26PM +0200, Gregoire Favre wrote:
> I think I already got the latest firmware from Sony...

The word "latest" is a big red flag for me.  If you just want to say
that you don't know what version of the firmware you have, then say
that.  Don't ever say "I have the latest..." because then we'll assume
that you don't know what version you have *and* that you don't know
which version is the newest at the time of your writing.

This applies to all the different forms of end-user support that I'm
involved in, not just CD/DVD writer firmware.  If you come into #debian
and say you "have the latest kernel", and it turns out you're actually
running 2.2.20-idepci because you just hit Enter on the Debian 3.0
installer's boot prompt, expect to be ridiculed. ;-)



Re: Best way to write DVD+R? growisofs ?

2004-04-26 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:18:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> The word "latest" is a big red flag for me.  If you just want to say
> that you don't know what version of the firmware you have, then say
> that.  Don't ever say "I have the latest..." because then we'll assume
> that you don't know what version you have *and* that you don't know
> which version is the newest at the time of your writing.

Please read the beginning of the thread where you could read the
firmware of my drive... which is the latest Sony released, at least on
today.

Why are yu assuming all other are stupid and don't know there firmware
is a mystery for me, but doesn't matter ;-(

Grégoire
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