Re: [cellml-discussion] clarification required?

2007-06-10 Thread James Lawson
Hi David/Andre,

We decided it was more useful to give the number of individual models in
the repository, rather than the number of model files (including
versions and variants). Personally I think this is better, but I'd also
like to see a few other important stats there too, including the total
number of versions that we used to have and perhaps a few other things
as well, like curated models.

David Nickerson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I noticed the other day that on the front page of the model repository 
 at cellml.org, the simple total number of models in the repository has 
 now changed to the number of peer reviewed models in the repository. I 
 was just wondering what this means and why the total number of models in 
 the repository is no longer given?
 
 
 Thanks,
 David.
 

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Re: [cellml-discussion] clarification required?

2007-06-10 Thread David Nickerson
 We decided it was more useful to give the number of individual models in
 the repository, rather than the number of model files (including
 versions and variants). Personally I think this is better, but I'd also
 like to see a few other important stats there too, including the total
 number of versions that we used to have and perhaps a few other things
 as well, like curated models.

Who is we? And yes, definitely more statistics would be good. This could 
have been achieved by enhancing the existing feature rather than 
arbitrarily removing it and replacing it with something different and, 
in my opinion, less valuable.

Also, given that it is the CellML Model Repository, it is likely assumed 
that peer reviewed models refers to the CellML model being peer 
reviewed - which is not the case. The use of peer reviewed models should 
be clarified in that statement.


David.

 
 David Nickerson wrote:
 Hi all,

 I noticed the other day that on the front page of the model repository 
 at cellml.org, the simple total number of models in the repository has 
 now changed to the number of peer reviewed models in the repository. I 
 was just wondering what this means and why the total number of models in 
 the repository is no longer given?


 Thanks,
 David.

 
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Re: [cellml-discussion] PMR categories

2007-06-10 Thread Tommy Yu
Matt wrote:
 I have concluded that they are now talking about the web site and not
 keywords in general.
 
 My assumption was that the category field selections are not persisted
 in the model metadata at all.
 

Actually they are.  Keywords are defined in the CellML metadata specifications 
and are already being used in various files.  Feel free to check the CellML 
files of the old repository and scroll down the to keyword section.  An example 
follows.

From http://www.cellml.org/examples/models/beeler_reuter_model_1977.html:

  !--  Keyword(s) --
  bqs:reference rdf:parseType=Resource
dc:subject rdf:parseType=Resource
  bqs:subject_typekeyword/bqs:subject_type
  rdf:value
rdf:Bag
  rdf:liventricular myocyte/rdf:li
  rdf:lielectrophysiological/rdf:li
/rdf:Bag
  /rdf:value
/dc:subject
  /bqs:reference

I do understand it may be different from the full CellML metadata specification 
as found in 
http://www.cellml.org/specifications/metadata/cellml_metadata_1.0#sec_bqs, but 
all other models pretty much follow this RDF format and so I wound up having to 
follow the above format to pick up the keyword metadata.

 I would have liked some indication that the 'categories' used also end
 up in the model keywords attributed to the model in addition to the
 keywords supplied by the author when creating or uploading the model.
 

That is already the case, the 'categories' *are* keywords that are chosen by 
Peter as a selectable choice in the filtering drop box for the repository 
listing.

 I would like there to be as many keywords allowed as the
 author/uploader wants (perhaps just a lines field will do for now for
 this). Constraining them to a single extra keyword in addition to a
 selected category makes no sense to me.
 

In the Edit Keyword interface, any keyword of the model that matches one of the 
'blessed' keywords will be highlighted in the category list.  All other 
keywords will be in the lines field editor.  Feel free to log into the site (I 
assume you have an account) and try out the editing interface.  I do agree it 
is currently slightly clunky, but James has no complaints with it and he has 
already added/verified keyword for half the curated models (I think) of the 
repository.

Again, the category field is a *subset* of keywords to limit the number of 
choices in the filtering menu and not a distinct entity.

Hope this clear things up.

Tommy.

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Re: [cellml-discussion] clarification required?

2007-06-10 Thread David Nickerson
 True, that does present a point of confusion. What we (perhaps not so
 obviously) meant was that there are that number of models that are based
 on peer reviewed papers.

I see the repository has now been updated, but the new statement is even 
more confusing and putting more emphasis on the peer review of the 
underlying CellML model rather than published articles, as I think you 
actually intend.

It would probably more correct and less ambiguous to use something along 
the lines of: There are currently 473 CellML models in this model 
repository based on 243 unique publications.



David.
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