Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-19 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 08:52 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> >-Original Message-
> >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf
> >Of William L. Maltby
> 

> >I think for maximum performance, if you have a secondary channel, put
> >the linux disk on that channel, rather than primary channel.
> 
> The flat cables won't reach. 8-}

<*chuckle*>

I can't tell you how many times I've found myself in that situation...
*after* I installed the drive and *then* tried to attach the cables.
This was back when a whole bunch of screws were involved.

When the cables were only 40 conductor I bought a whole roll and a bunch
of connectors and made my own as needed. Now that stuff is 80 wires, I
don't do that. Since I use full towers, this was a problem. I searched
on-line and found some quality extended ones, but they were fairly
expensive. For your use, they may not be worth it. Or budgets may
intrude, etc.

Anyway, glad your setup is working now.

> 

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Re: [CentOS] Missing Thunderbird Updates

2009-05-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/18/2009 08:23 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> Any update on this is greatly appreciated.  I'm asking because of this
> forum post [1]:

Should be there today
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Re: [CentOS] Missing Thunderbird Updates

2009-05-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/19/2009 12:10 AM, Greg Bailey wrote:
> And now, upstream 4.8 is released...  who will be handling this one?
> Karanbir?

The announcements came through last night, however the packages and isos 
had not come through when I looked last.

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Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of William L. Maltby
>Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP
>
>> >I think for maximum performance, if you have a secondary channel, put
>> >the linux disk on that channel, rather than primary channel.
>>
>> The flat cables won't reach. 8-}
>
><*chuckle*>

Yeah, I know it sounds pretty daft to fail on such a lo-tech issue... But
there it is. ;-)


>I can't tell you how many times I've found myself in that situation...
>*after* I installed the drive and *then* tried to attach the cables.
>This was back when a whole bunch of screws were involved.
>
>When the cables were only 40 conductor I bought a whole roll and a bunch
>of connectors and made my own as needed. Now that stuff is 80 wires, I
>don't do that. Since I use full towers, this was a problem. I searched
>on-line and found some quality extended ones, but they were fairly
>expensive. For your use, they may not be worth it. Or budgets may
>intrude, etc.

Nah, not worth all the extra trouble to optimise with different channels,
better cables and whatnot, the performance isn't a problem anyway. My main
concern, and goal, is general stability.


>Anyway, glad your setup is working now.

Well, my new run through the documented procedures totally failed for some
reason... I need to retrace the steps I took and see where it went wrong and
why. 8-/ 

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[CentOS] Missing perl-DBD-Pg security update

2009-05-19 Thread Ned Slider
Hi,

Any news when we may expect the missing perl-DBD-Pg security update for 
CentOS 5 from last week?

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0479.html

It came out the same day as the poppler security update that CentOS 
pushed 2 days later so I'm wondering why the perl-DBD-Pg security update 
still hasn't appeared. Is there an issue? Did it just get missed? Should 
we wait longer?

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[CentOS] RPM date strangeness (was: rpmbuild date shift)

2009-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hrbáč wrote:
> Ralph Angenendt napsal(a):
> > Yes, I'm seeing that too:
> > 
> > Even if that is changed to UTC, it still is May 13th (and it doesn't explain
> > why subsequent changelog entries are one day off, too.
> 
> Thanks Ralph. Yes, it has nothing to do with time zone. 

It has. I don't know why, yet.

> I'm not sure if
> I've seen it before last rpmbuild update.

Also happens when you use *5.2* in mock to build the packages. And that
has an older version of rpm.

Watch and cry (I Cc: centos-devel, as I know that JBJ reads there, too).
Please do answer in centos-devel, thanks.

JBJ: 

Here's what happens: I take a src.rpm:

[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$rpm -qp -...@hangelog canlock-2b-3.el5.src.rpm
|head -2
* Tue May 19 2009 Ralph Angenendt  -2b.2
- This is a test bump

I rebuild it with rpmbuild:

[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$rpmbuild --rebuild canlock-2b-3.el5.src.rpm
[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$rpm -qp --changelog
../RPMS/x86_64/canlock-2b-3.el5.x86_64.rpm |head -2
* Tue May 19 2009 Ralph Angenendt  -2b.2
- This is a test bump

All is fine. Now let me churn it through mock.

[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$mock -r centos-5-x86_64 --autocache
canlock-2b-3.el5.src.rpm 
[...]
[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$rpm -qp --changelog
/var/lib/mock/centos-5-x86_64/result/canlock-2b-3.el5.x86_64.rpm |head
-2
* Wed May 20 2009 Ralph Angenendt  -2b.2
- This is a test bump

Ummm?

[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$date
Tue May 19 13:19:25 CEST 2009

Yay! I invented a time machine! (or someone did).

Okay, let's move the machine from Germany to the UK

[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London
/etc/localtime
[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$date
Tue May 19 12:20:17 BST 2009
[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$rpm -qp --changelog
/var/lib/mock/centos-5-x86_64/result/canlock-2b-3.el5.x86_64.rpm |head
-2
* Tue May 19 2009 Ralph Angenendt  -2b.2
- This is a test bump

Hmmm. Who moved the international date line to the Channel?

What about mock? Let's move the machine back to Germany first.

[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin
/etc/localtime
[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$date
Tue May 19 13:22:08 CEST 2009
[angen...@shutdown SRPMS]$mock -r centos-5-x86_64 shell
init
mock-chroot> date
Tue May 19 07:22:18 EDT 2009

So mock uses EDT which is 6 hours behind. Which does not explain why
moving from BST (EDT +0500) still gives me the correct date in the
changelog, moving the machine one step further to CEST (EDT +0600) moves
me to the next day, though.

What about the rpm built with rpmbuild? Let's move the machine to
Sidney:

[r...@shutdown etc]# cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney localtime
[r...@shutdown etc]# date
Tue May 19 21:27:50 EST 2009
[r...@shutdown etc]# rpm -qp --changelog
/home/angenenr/redhat/RPMS/x86_64/canlock-2b-3.el5.x86_64.rpm 
* Tue May 19 2009 Ralph Angenendt  -2b.2
- This is a test bump

Strange. This is 8 hours in the future (and not 6), but still shows me
the correct date.

Something is not right here. Is this something to worry about? How and
why does that happen? Why are there even calculations on the date line
in a changelog?

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] X Windows has quit working

2009-05-19 Thread Equinox86
mmm you can paste the error in Xorg.0.log file? only error --> (EE)

and you can paste the section pertinent the graphic driver and monitor?
thanks :D

2009/5/19 Thomas Dukes 

>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: centos-boun...@centos.org
> > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of A. Kirillov
> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:38 AM
> > To: CentOS mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] X Windows has quit working
> >
> > > > Not sure when it stopped working as I don't use it often.  Maybe
> > > > since the upgrade from 5.2 to 5.3.  Can't say for sure as
> > it's been
> > > > a while since tried to start X.
> > > >
> > > > The errors I receive when startin X are:
> > > >
> > > > (EE) I810(0): unknown reason for exception
> > > > (EE) I810(0): cannot continue
> > > > (EE) I810(0): VBE initialization failed
> > > > (EE) Screen(s) found but none have a usable configuration
> > > >
> > > > Fatal server error:
> > > > No screens found
> >
> > If you're on x86_64 try intel driver instead of i810.
> > See section "9.3. x86_64 Architectures" of upstream release notes.
> > HTH
>
> No, this is IBM Netvista.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] Missing perl-DBD-Pg security update

2009-05-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ned Slider wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Any news when we may expect the missing perl-DBD-Pg security update for 
> CentOS 5 from last week?
> 
> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0479.html
> 
> It came out the same day as the poppler security update that CentOS 
> pushed 2 days later so I'm wondering why the perl-DBD-Pg security update 
> still hasn't appeared. Is there an issue? Did it just get missed? Should 
> we wait longer?

Will get pushed today afaics, we tried to work out what the problem with
the changelog date shift before putting it out. 

See my other mail regarding the date issue.

Ralph


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[CentOS] what happened to spampoison.com?

2009-05-19 Thread Michael Casey
What happened to

http://www.spampoison.com/

?

Does anybody know a good site, that makes similar activity?
I mean to "fight" against spam?
Like putting a link to a site, and that link points to another site,
what's full with False email addresses :)

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Re: [CentOS] what happened to spampoison.com?

2009-05-19 Thread Michael Casey
Plus, does someone has the full video (it was about ~20 minutes) of the BBC
clickonline botnet programme?
I found a shorter one of it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/7932816.stm
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[CentOS] Weird CentOS 5.3 problem

2009-05-19 Thread Randall Martin
I reimaged a compute node on our cluster with the latest 5.3 updates (we
were previously running 5.2), but we kept the kernel at 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5
until I can find time to rebuild some of our kernel modules.  After the
image install finishes and the system reboots, the eth0 ethernet interface
disappears.  If I do an ifconfig ­a, I see what should be eth0, but it¹s
listed as __tmp2081258173.

[r...@node0770 ~]# ifconfig -a
__tmp2081258173 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1E:68:86:67:04
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:66

The dmesg output isn¹t very helpful:

[r...@node0770 ~]# dmesg|grep eth0
eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 0108e:534b bound to :00:08.0


If I remove our lustre modules that were built for the 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5
kernel and reboot, the eth0 interface reappears.  Another piece to this
puzzle is that this problem only seems to happen on our Sun X2200¹s.  Our
Dell 1950¹s work just fine after putting on the 5.3 updates.  Anyone know
what could cause this behavior?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.2 install: mbr or no bootloader ?

2009-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On Mon, 18 May 2009 15:58:26 -0700 jackson byers wrote:
>
>
>One peculiarity:
>I believe I was given the choice of:
>--installing the bootloader into mbr
>or
>--no bootloader install
>
>I did not want my mbr overwritten, so  I chose  no bootloader
>
>Why is there no choice of 1st sector of root partition?
>
>or did I just miss it?

You need to select 'install bootloader' to the hard disk, and then advanced 
options, where you can tell it to install 
it to /boot instead of MBR. You should have created /boot in the partitioning 
stage.

I assume you are using some other boot manager.

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Re: [CentOS] Weird CentOS 5.3 problem

2009-05-19 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 19 May 2009 09:04:43 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I reimaged a compute node on our cluster with the latest 5.3 updates (we
> were previously running 5.2), but we kept the kernel at 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5
> until I can find time to rebuild some of our kernel modules.  After the
> image install finishes and the system reboots, the eth0 ethernet interface
> disappears.  If I do an ifconfig ­a, I see what should be eth0, but it¹s
> listed as __tmp2081258173.
> 
> [r...@node0770 ~]# ifconfig -a
> __tmp2081258173 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1E:68:86:67:04
>   BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
>   Interrupt:66
> 
> The dmesg output isn¹t very helpful:
> 
> [r...@node0770 ~]# dmesg|grep eth0
> eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 0108e:534b bound to :00:08.0
> 
> 
> If I remove our lustre modules that were built for the 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5
> kernel and reboot, the eth0 interface reappears.  Another piece to this
> puzzle is that this problem only seems to happen on our Sun X2200¹s.  Our
> Dell 1950¹s work just fine after putting on the 5.3 updates.  Anyone know
> what could cause this behavior?

Check /etc/modprobe.conf (and
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if-cfg-eth0) -- if you are doing a
disk-to-disk backup type of install, the alias for eth0 is very likely
wrong (and the HW address in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if-cfg-eth0
is also wrong).  You may have to manually update these two files on the
'new' machine, since it likely has a different NIC, requiring a
different driver.  It will also have a different MAC (HW) address as
well. In the old days, kudzu would detect this and pop up during the
boot process.

What does lspci display?

> 
> Thanks,
> Randy
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[CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Anne Wilson
I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically 
- but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.

It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to 
keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install 
security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications 
perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.

Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that anacron 
picks it up?

I'd be glad of any advice.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0474 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 acpid Update

2009-05-19 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 10:50 -0400, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0474 Moderate
> 
> Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0457.html

When I check this, it seems to be the wrong url. Points to the libwmf
one?

> 

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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 51, Issue 7

2009-05-19 Thread centos-announce-request
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   1. CESA-2009:0431 Important CentOS 5 x86_64  kdegraphics Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   2. CESA-2009:0431 Important CentOS 5 i386kdegraphics Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   3. CESA-2009:0258 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 thunderbird Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   4. CESA-2009:0258 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64   thunderbird Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   5. CESA-2009:0457 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 libwmf  Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   6. CESA-2009:0457 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 libwmfUpdate
  (Karanbir Singh)
   7. CESA-2009:0474 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 acpid Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   8. CESA-2009:0474 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 acpid Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   9. CEBA-2009:0477  CentOS 5 i386 gfs2-utils Update (Karanbir Singh)
  10. CEBA-2009:0477 CentOS 5 x86_64 gfs2-utils Update (Karanbir Singh)
  11. CESA-2009:0479 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 perl-DBD-Pg Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  12. CESA-2009:0479 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64   perl-DBD-Pg Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  13. CESA-2009:1036 Important CentOS 5 x86_64  ipsec-tools Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  14. CESA-2009:1036 Important CentOS 5 i386ipsec-tools Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  15. CESA-2009:1039 Important CentOS 5 i386 ntp Update (Karanbir Singh)
  16. CESA-2009:1039 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 ntp  Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  17. Re: CESA-2009:0474 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 acpid Update
  (Karanbir Singh)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:32:46 -0400
From: Karanbir Singh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0431 Important CentOS 5 x86_64
kdegraphics Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: <20090519143246.ga26...@tantra.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0431 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0431.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
846744734a942745ae329975907afdd3  kdegraphics-3.5.4-12.el5_3.x86_64.rpm
446a991d86d5f257619518b7db722f9b  kdegraphics-devel-3.5.4-12.el5_3.i386.rpm
339de9071a8060f59b1779958d86c971  kdegraphics-devel-3.5.4-12.el5_3.x86_64.rpm

Source:
8d61e793b28a302eed489122f8a480f6  kdegraphics-3.5.4-12.el5_3.src.rpm


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:32:45 -0400
From: Karanbir Singh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0431 Important CentOS 5 i386
kdegraphics Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: <20090519143245.ga26...@tantra.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0431 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0431.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
4daf4c205eaee91c35b08637f027c4e5  kdegraphics-3.5.4-12.el5_3.i386.rpm
114475afadfa864af421d4e51dc8cbd8  kdegraphics-devel-3.5.4-12.el5_3.i386.rpm

Source:
8d61e793b28a302eed489122f8a480f6  kdegraphics-3.5.4-12.el5_3.src.rpm


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:34:53 -0400
From: Karanbir Singh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0258 Moderate CentOS 5 i386
thunderbird Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: <20090519143453.ga27...@tantra.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0258 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0258.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
88d9d0a1a3128ea8d2a1a6b798c288fa  thunderbird-2.0.0.21-1.el5.centos.i386.rpm

Source:
7f0fc0f612aafbd06f1f1fc389d0ebca  thunderbird-2.0.0.21-1.el5.centos.src.rpm


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Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:34:53 -0400
From: Karanbir Singh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0258 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64
thunderbird Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: <20090519143

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, 
> basically 
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.
> 
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to 
> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install 
> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications 
> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
> 
> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that anacron 
> picks it up?
> 
> I'd be glad of any advice.

Rather than do auto updates (sometimes there are conflicts or other
issues needing *intellegent* intervention -- the recent update from
CentOS 5.2 to 5.3 required that glibc be updated before the rest of the
updates for example), maybe you should schedule a regular visit to this
fellow.  Not only will this make sure the machine is properly updated
it also gives you a chance to check for any problems that will have
cropped up.

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100
Anne Wilson wrote:

> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to 
> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install 
> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications 
> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.

yum-updatesd

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread JohnS

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, 
> basically 
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.
> 
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to 
> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install 
> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications 
> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
> 
> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that anacron 
> picks it up?
> 
> I'd be glad of any advice.
> 
> Anne
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That's just the thing you don't have to do anything. Yumupdatesd will
handle that for you. Or stop the service and put on a cronjob. Just that
easy.

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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.2 install: mbr or no bootloader ?

2009-05-19 Thread jackson byers
Julian responded

> You need to select 'install bootloader' to the hard disk, and then advanced 
> options,
> where you can tell it to install
> it to /boot instead of MBR.
> You should have created /boot in the partitioning stage.

> I assume you are using some other boot manager
> Julian Thomas

Thanks, Julian, that tells me what I missed.

FYI:
I am not using a /boot partition,  all of centos is  in  sdb5.

I am using grub, but it is installed into a small ~ 10 Mb  grub-only
partition sdb9.
That chainloads all my os's,
 centos(sdb5),
 fc5(sdb6),
 f10(sda1)   I havent been able to get f10 X working.



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Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2 or greater availability

2009-05-19 Thread Kaplan, Andrew H.
Hi there --

Thanks for the info...I added the c5-testing repository, and the package updated
successfully.  

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Subject: Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2 or greater availability

Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote:
>
> Hi there --
>
> Is there a repository that has php version 5.2 or greater available 
> for use with the Centos 5.3 distribution?
> This includes the development libraries package. Thanks.
>
There's packages in testing ( 
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories  / 
http://dev.centos.org/centos/5/CentOS-Testing.repo) rebuilt from the 
RHWAS packages. The more people use them and provide feedback, the 
quicker they'll hit a more mainstream (ie - centos) repo;

[e...@centos-boxen ~]$ sudo yum info --disablerepo=* 
--enablerepo=c5-testing php

Available Packages
Name   : php
Arch   : i386
Version: 5.2.6
Release: 2.el5s2
Size   : 1.2 M
Repo   : c5-testing
Summary: The PHP HTML-embedded scripting language
URL: http://www.php.net/
License: PHP
Description: PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. PHP attempts to 
make it easy for developers to write dynamically generated webpages. PHP 
also offers built-in
   : database integration for several commercial and 
non-commercial database management systems, so writing a 
database-enabled webpage with PHP is fairly simple. The
   : most common use of PHP coding is probably as a replacement 
for CGI scripts.  The php package contains the module which adds support 
for the PHP language to
   : Apache HTTP Server.

[e...@centos-boxen ~]$sudo yum search --disablerepo=* 
--enablerepo=c5-testing php
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, protectbase
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
=== 
Matched: php 

php-pear.noarch : PHP Extension and Application Repository framework
php.i386 : The PHP HTML-embedded scripting language
php-bcmath.i386 : A module for PHP applications for using the bcmath library
php-cli.i386 : Command-line interface for PHP
php-common.i386 : Common files for PHP
php-dba.i386 : A database abstraction layer module for PHP applications
php-debuginfo.i386 : Debug information for package php
php-devel.i386 : Files needed for building PHP extensions
php-gd.i386 : A module for PHP applications for using the gd graphics 
library
php-imap.i386 : A module for PHP applications that use IMAP
php-ldap.i386 : A module for PHP applications that use LDAP
php-mbstring.i386 : A module for PHP applications which need multi-byte 
string handling
php-mysql.i386 : A module for PHP applications that use MySQL databases
php-ncurses.i386 : A module for PHP applications for using ncurses 
interfaces
php-odbc.i386 : A module for PHP applications that use ODBC databases
php-pdo.i386 : A database access abstraction module for PHP applications
php-pgsql.i386 : A PostgreSQL database module for PHP
php-snmp.i386 : A module for PHP applications that query SNMP-managed 
devices
php-soap.i386 : A module for PHP applications that use the SOAP protocol
php-suhosin.i386 : Advanced protection system for PHP installations
php-suhosin-debuginfo.i386 : Debug information for package php-suhosin
php-xml.i386 : A module for PHP applications which use XML
php-xmlrpc.i386 : A module for PHP applications which use the XML-RPC 
protocol

(non-relevant packages removed for clarity)
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Re: [CentOS] what happened to spampoison.com?

2009-05-19 Thread MHR
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Michael Casey  wrote:
> What happened to
>
> http://www.spampoison.com/
>
> ?
>

What's wrong with it?  Seems to be just fine

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread nate
Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very
> insecure.
>
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
>
> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that anacron
> picks it up?

Wasn't there some special process you had to go through when going
from 5.2 to 5.3? Something along the lines of having to manually update
one(or more) packages before upgrading the rest of the system? I see
that sort of issue as being very problematic for anything that auto
installs updates.

http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.3#head-198f803bc13b52348780db429ae42e0daf82282b

I think a better solution would be an Ubuntu LTS installation, it's
more geared for that type of person, and provides pretty seamless
upgrades for minor and major versions in my experience.

Debian has a nice system in that I can "fix" the configuration file
for apt-get to force it to the current release of the product(the
default is to point to whatever is the current "stable" release),
which will make sure all updates applied to the system are 100%
compatible. If/when I decide to go to a newer version I can take
the time to read the release notes and change the configuration
to point to the next major version of the distro, otherwise you
can fall into a similar trap, having a system blindly try to apply
updates that may be out of order for a major version change.

Not everyone keeps up to date on the day a particular release comes
out.

Ubuntu solves that by placing an easy to use button on the update
manager to update to the next version of the distro or you can
keep getting packages from the existing version, of course it's
only maintained for so long. My sister's laptop was so out of date
(and wasn't on a LTS version at the time), I had to jump through
a few hoops to get it updated as the intermediate versions were
no longer on the main mirror sites. I think her laptop was 3
releases behind at the time.

Major version changes on a RHEL-system are even more complicated,
even Red hat advises doing a clean install.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Installation_Guide/ch-upgrade-x86.html

SuSE used to be pretty good at upgrading as well though it's been
a few years since I used it.

RHEL/CentOS are great for servers, and perhaps managed workstations
(thinking of replacements for things like Sun/SGI/HP-UX workstations,
and perhaps corporate desktops), I don't see it as a good candidate
for many other things, but that's why there are multiple distributions,
no distro is good at everything.

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-19-2009 8:11 AM Anne Wilson spake the following:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, 
> basically 
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.
> 
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to 
> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install 
> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications 
> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
> 
> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that anacron 
> picks it up?
> 
> I'd be glad of any advice.
> 
> Anne
Maybe you could arrange to do some remote access every 3 or 4 months or so and
just update it for him. You could also show him how to do it during this time,
and it might give him some confidence and a better sense of independence which
he will probably very much appreciate.



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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Frank Thommen
Hi Anne,

> [...] he feels very insecure.
> 
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to 
> keep it securely patched.  [...]
> 
> I'd be glad of any advice.

Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other 
distibution in this case.  Ubuntu might be a good choice or maybe SuSE. 
  Both are probably better suited for non-commandline techies :-).

Both distributions offer easy-to-use update tools.

I'd also suggest not to use Fedora or OpenSuse.  They have both very 
fast release cycles, forcing you to updating very often.

On the other hand, showstoppers can always happen and in this case 
probably nothing will save you a personal appearance :-)

Cheers

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Re: [CentOS] Weird CentOS 5.3 problem

2009-05-19 Thread Randall Martin



> From: Robert Heller 
> Organization: Deepwoods Software
> Reply-To: CentOS mailing list 
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:46:15 -0400
> To: CentOS mailing list 
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Weird CentOS 5.3 problem
> 
> At Tue, 19 May 2009 09:04:43 -0400 CentOS mailing list 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I reimaged a compute node on our cluster with the latest 5.3 updates (we
>> were previously running 5.2), but we kept the kernel at 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5
>> until I can find time to rebuild some of our kernel modules.  After the
>> image install finishes and the system reboots, the eth0 ethernet interface
>> disappears.  If I do an ifconfig ­a, I see what should be eth0, but it¹s
>> listed as __tmp2081258173.
>> 
>> [r...@node0770 ~]# ifconfig -a
>> __tmp2081258173 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1E:68:86:67:04
>>   BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
>>   Interrupt:66
>> 
>> The dmesg output isn¹t very helpful:
>> 
>> [r...@node0770 ~]# dmesg|grep eth0
>> eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 0108e:534b bound to :00:08.0
>> 
>> 
>> If I remove our lustre modules that were built for the 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5
>> kernel and reboot, the eth0 interface reappears.  Another piece to this
>> puzzle is that this problem only seems to happen on our Sun X2200¹s.  Our
>> Dell 1950¹s work just fine after putting on the 5.3 updates.  Anyone know
>> what could cause this behavior?
> 
> Check /etc/modprobe.conf (and
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if-cfg-eth0) -- if you are doing a
> disk-to-disk backup type of install, the alias for eth0 is very likely
> wrong (and the HW address in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if-cfg-eth0
> is also wrong).  You may have to manually update these two files on the
> 'new' machine, since it likely has a different NIC, requiring a
> different driver.  It will also have a different MAC (HW) address as
> well. In the old days, kudzu would detect this and pop up during the
> boot process.
> 
> What does lspci display?
> 


We add the two lines at the end of modprobe.conf for lustre.

alias eth0 tg3
alias eth1 tg3
alias eth2 forcedeth
alias eth3 forcedeth
alias scsi_hostadapter sata_nv
options lnet networks="tcp0(eth0)"
options ksocklnd enable_irq_affinity=0


The /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 has the correct settings for
this host.  We actually generate this file during the post-install.  Here's
what it looks like:

DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
STARTMODE=onboot
ONBOOT=yes
USERCTL=no
TYPE=Ethernet
IPV6INIT=no
IPADDR=192.168.3.91
BROADCAST=192.168.255.255
NETMASK=255.255.0.0
GATEWAY=192.168.100.1


Here's the lspci output:

00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SMBus (rev a3)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a1)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:04.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 IDE (rev a1)
00:05.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller (rev a3)
00:06.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI bridge (rev a2)
00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a3)
00:09.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a3)
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a3)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a3)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a3)
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a3)
00:0f.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] Link Control
00:19.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration
00:19.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] Address Map
00:19.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] DRAM Controller
00:19.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control
00:19.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron,
Athlon64, Sempron] Link Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ASPEED Technology, Inc. AST20

Re: [CentOS] what happened to spampoison.com?

2009-05-19 Thread Michael Casey
It was down when I posted, thanks for the reply, It's online now :)

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:28 PM, MHR  wrote:

> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Michael Casey 
> wrote:
> > What happened to
> >
> > http://www.spampoison.com/
> >
> > ?
> >
>
> What's wrong with it?  Seems to be just fine
>
> mhr
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
>> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, 
>> basically
>> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.
>>
>> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
>> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
>> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
>> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
>>
>> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that anacron
>> picks it up?
>>
>> I'd be glad of any advice.
>>
>> Anne
> ---
> That's just the thing you don't have to do anything. Yumupdatesd will
> handle that for you. Or stop the service and put on a cronjob. Just that
> easy.

The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
cron job. update yum and then update.

However, on very rare occasions, he might get bitten in the rear. As
someone else suggested, possibly you could drop in and update his
system, once a month or so, in case something goes awry? The risk to
that is that he would not have the latest and greatest versions, after
they are updated for security/stability. The plus side is that he
might get very confused if something  goes awry with an automatic
update. I would think that if he uses a Desktop, CentOS will be very
good for him. Consider adding the Multimedia stuff for him? From what
I've read on the list, CentOS on a Laptop can be problematic, but if
he's using a Desktop, should be good to go. GL
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread JohnS

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS  wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> >> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, 
> >> basically
> >> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very 
> >> insecure.
> >>
> >> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
> >> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
> >> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
> >> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
> >>
> >> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that 
> >> anacron
> >> picks it up?
> >>
> >> I'd be glad of any advice.
> >>
> >> Anne
> > ---
> > That's just the thing you don't have to do anything. Yumupdatesd will
> > handle that for you. Or stop the service and put on a cronjob. Just that
> > easy.
> 
> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
> cron job. update yum and then update.
---
I do not disagree with that. But we have a problem you see! That problem
is an ordinary user has of no use in reading that manual. I in fact have
tried that with my father in law. All he was interested in was email web
browsing and saving his pictures. Especially if he/she is new to Linux
or computers.

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[CentOS] Does anyone use pmacct?

2009-05-19 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi all,

I've been advised to use pmacct on a CentOS server, in order to keep track
of network traffic used by the XEN domU's / VPS' / VM's on the server. I
don't see a .rpm on their website so I don't know if it's safe to install
the tarball. I also don't see an rpm in the dag wiers repository.

Has anyone installed it on CentOS before? And if so, did you run into any
problems?

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, JohnS  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS  wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
>> >> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, 
>> >> basically
>> >> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very 
>> >> insecure.
>> >>
>> >> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
>> >> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
>> >> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
>> >> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that 
>> >> anacron
>> >> picks it up?
>> >>
>> >> I'd be glad of any advice.
>> >>
>> >> Anne
>> > ---
>> > That's just the thing you don't have to do anything. Yumupdatesd will
>> > handle that for you. Or stop the service and put on a cronjob. Just that
>> > easy.
>>
>> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
>> cron job. update yum and then update.
> ---
> I do not disagree with that. But we have a problem you see! That problem
> is an ordinary user has of no use in reading that manual. I in fact have
> tried that with my father in law. All he was interested in was email web
> browsing and saving his pictures. Especially if he/she is new to Linux
> or computers.

Possibly the best way is for the updates to be setup to run
automatically and in the rare (but possible) event that something goes
awry, then the user call for on site help, to straighten it out. The
majority of the updates work properly, without any intervention, but
once in awhile
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread John Kennedy
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 16:11:35 Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels
> very insecure.
>
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
>
> Maybe this could be done with a script run under cron.daily, so that
> anacron picks it up?
>
> I'd be glad of any advice.
>
> Anne

As much as I like CentOS, I tend to agree with the other posts. I don't think 
it is the right distro for non techies.
I set up my in-laws with Linux Mint (running KDE, of course) and they could 
even handle installing the codecs and other non OSS stuff. Mint is a nice 
distro based on Ubuntu.
John
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Re: [CentOS] Shell Script Pointers?

2009-05-19 Thread Eric Sisolak
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM, James Bensley  wrote:
>
> > if you're already going to the effort of downloading the entire
> > blacklist every night, why not dump the old database, and just insert
> > the newly downloaded one?
>
> Because we also add our own entries to the current blacklist so we are
> just adding any new entries from the nightly updates of our blacklist
> provides
>
> >> tar -cxf blacklist.tar
> >
> > this will suck your computer into a vortex of doom. I recommend either
> > creating a tarball, or extracting one, but not both at the same time. :)
>
> Its ok the blacklist is text so its a 10mb tarball of text. Takes
> about 30 seconds to download and it will take about 2 minutes for the
> script to run ;)
>
> > In all honesty, you might be better targeting this query to squidGuard
> > users, as this may be something they do regularly.
>
> Should be simple text manipulation :( none the less a good idea I will
> post my question there. Thanks!
>
> -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
>  Version: 3.1
> GIT/MU/U dpu s: a--> C++>$ U+> L++> B-> P+> E?> W+++>$ N K W++ O M++>$ V-
> PS+++ PE++ Y+ PGP t 5 X+ R- tv+ b+> DI D+++ G+ e(+) h--(++) r++ z++
> --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
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Why have you custom black list separate?  Then when doing updates,
remove the current list, concatenate the update with the custom and
then put that in place.

This would presumably make it easier for you to manage your custom
stuff, but still be up to date.

Also you could try

for FOLDER in `find /usr/local/squidGuard/db -maxdepth 1 -type d`; do

instead of
find /usr/local/squidGuard/db -maxdepth 1 -type d | while read FOLDER; do

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Re: [CentOS] Shell Script Pointers?

2009-05-19 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 22:06 -0400, Eric Sisolak wrote:
> Also you could try
> 
> for FOLDER in `find /usr/local/squidGuard/db -maxdepth 1 -type d`; do

This is a classic mistake. It has two problems:
1) The list of files created by the embedded find can exceed the maximum
command length.
2) Directories with spaces in their name will be split by the tokenizer,
resulting in $FOLDER containing invalid or dangerous paths.

> instead of
> find /usr/local/squidGuard/db -maxdepth 1 -type d | while read FOLDER; do

This is the correct way to combine a shell loop with a program that
creates a list of files.

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Robert Heller
>Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:20 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Cc: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?
>
>> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need
to
>> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
>> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
>> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.

Go for it! Did the same thing for my mother a few years ago. She had WinXP
running in Workgroup mode. Somehow she'd managed to aquire a rootkit on her
computer. After a few hours trying to get rid of it, I gave up, took her
computer home to my place and installed Fedora Core 5. She's now at CentOS
5.3 and happily surfing along. She's most happy with Evolution, it works
very well with for her.


>Rather than do auto updates (sometimes there are conflicts or other
>issues needing *intellegent* intervention -- the recent update from
>CentOS 5.2 to 5.3 required that glibc be updated before the rest of the
>updates for example), maybe you should schedule a regular visit to this
>fellow.

I second that.

That's how I solved updates for the beloved mother, by enabling
yum-updatesd. Yum-cron and yum-updateobboot are both disabled, but may be
useful for simple systems. Minor version updates I do manually for her, and
since I visit her every once in a while I also check up her computer. For
the last three or four years CentOS has been doing very well for her.
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Frank Cox
>Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:22 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Cc: Anne Wilson
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?
>
>> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need
to
>> keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
>> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
>> perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.
>
>yum-updatesd

Isn't that only the notifier thing in the panel?

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