[CentOS-virt] Can I bridge a bonded and vlan tagged interface directly to a guest?

2009-07-31 Thread David Knierim
I am running CentOS 5.3 x86_64 as my dom0 and CentOS 5.3 on my domU's.   On
the dom0, I have two interfaces that are bonded and have tagged VLANs.   I
can get the networks to the domU's by creating a bridge for each of the
VLANS (bond0.3, bond0.4, etc).   On the domU, the interfaces show up as
eth0, eth1, etc.

Is there a way to set up the network on the dom0 so my domU's see a single
interface with tagged VLAN support??

Thanks!
   David
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Re: [CentOS-es] modem 3g

2009-07-31 Thread Walter Cervini
Verifica en Firefox, en la pestaña del menu Archivo Trabajar sin
conexion este desactivada, a mi me sucede mucho


Saludos

El 31 de julio de 2009 15:55,
alejandroalejandro_garr...@click.com.py escribió:
 hola, tengo el modem huawei E226 y fedora 11.

 mi proble es que al conectar el modem al equipo, lo detecta todo bien y
 dice que esta conectado a la red banda ancha GSM, y hasta ahi todo bien,
 pero despues quiero navegar y nada, no abre la pagina.

 nadie sabe porque debe ser, busque y probe un monton de cosas como,
 direcciones DNS pero nada de nada, si alguien me puede dar una mano les
 voy a estar agradecido.

 un saludo

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Re: [CentOS-es] problema de validacion con samba como PDC y LDAP

2009-07-31 Thread samuel correa
Hola a todos.

Los que me comentaron lo del SELinux, ya lo deshabilite y nada pasó.. todo
está igual.
para deshabilitarlo usé el comando:

system-config-securitylevel

y luego en la opción:  Deshabilitar.
Reinicié el equipo y nada.

Lo del smbldap-tools, claro que lo instalé y configuré, acá pongo los
archivos de configuración:


*/etc/smbldap-tools/smbldap_bind.conf *

slaveDN=cn=Manager,dc=idealix,dc=org
slavePw=secret
masterDN=cn=cacique,dc=prueba,dc=cs,dc=udea,dc=edu,dc=co
masterPw=secret


*/etc/smbldap-tools/*

##
#
# General Configuration
#
##

SID=S-1-5-21-3913098102-3033589265-2515174398
##
#
# LDAP Configuration
#
##
slaveLDAP=127.0.0.1
slavePort=389

masterLDAP=127.0.0.1
masterPort=389

ldapTLS=0

verify=require

cafile=/etc/smbldap-tools/ca.pem

clientcert=/etc/smbldap-tools/smbldap-tools.pem

clientkey=/etc/smbldap-tools/smbldap-tools.key

suffix=dc=prueba,dc=cs,dc=udea,dc=edu,dc=co

usersdn=ou=estudiantes,${suffix}

computersdn=ou=maquinas,${suffix}

groupsdn=ou=grupos,${suffix}

idmapdn=ou=Idmap,${suffix}

sambaUnixIdPooldn=cn=NextFreeUnixId,${suffix}

scope=sub

hash_encrypt=MD5

crypt_salt_format=%s

##
#
# Unix Accounts Configuration
#
##

userLoginShell=/bin/bash

userHome=/Estudiantes/%U

userHomeDirectoryMode=755

userGecos=Luis  fernando Padilla Almanza

defaultUserGid=513

defaultComputerGid=515

skeletonDir=/etc/skel

defaultMaxPasswordAge=45

##
#
# SAMBA Configuration
#
##

userSmbHome=\\SIONA\%U

userProfile=

userHomeDrive=X:

mailDomain=prueba.cs.udea.edu.co

##
#
# SMBLDAP-TOOLS Configuration (default are ok for a RedHat)
#
##

with_smbpasswd=0
smbpasswd=/usr/bin/smbpasswd



Por favor!!.. siguan sugiriendome cosas!!... ustedes son mi única
esperanza!.-
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samuel

2009/7/30 Germán C. Basisty german.basi...@eipsistemas.com.ar

  Pregunta tonta, pero no me queda claro en tu mail:



 Instalaste y configuraste smbldap-tools?


 Saludos.



 *De:* centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] *En
 nombre de *samuel correa
 *Enviado el:* jueves, 30 de julio de 2009 06:12 p.m.

 *Para:* centos-es@centos.org
 *Asunto:* Re: [CentOS-es] problema de validacion con samba como PDC y LDAP



 Hola.

 Gracias por responder, lamento decirlo pero la solución que me propones no
 me dió el resultado esperado, es decir, sigo con el mismo problema...

 alguna otra sugerencia??...

 (es de caracter HYPERIMPORTANTE!)

 Samuel


  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Germán C. Basisty 
 german.basi...@eipsistemas.com.ar wrote:

 Tenes que modificar el registro de xp.



 Hklm\system\currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters\requiresignorseal
 que esta en 1 pasarlo a 0.



 Si esta todo bien tiene que salir andando derecho.



 Saludos.





 *Germán C. Basisty*

 *EIP SISTEMAS*

 *Consultor - Tecnología Informática*

 tel./fax +54 (299) 436 6929

 cel. +54 (2942) 15 472 223

 german.basi...@eipsistemas.com.ar

 http://ww.eipsistemas.com.ar





 *De:* centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] *En
 nombre de *samuel correa
 *Enviado el:* jueves, 30 de julio de 2009 02:20 p.m.
 *Para:* centos-es@centos.org
 *Asunto:* Re: [CentOS-es] problema de validacion con samba como PDC y LDAP



 Hola.. no se si ya me respondieron.. es que no estaba inscrito a la lista y
 no sabria si ya respondieron o no.. si ya respondieron podrian hacerlo de
 nuevo que ya si estoy inscrito en la lista... de lo contrario.. podrian
 colaborarme con esto???

 gracias.


 ---

 Buenas Tardes a todos.

 Tengo el siguiente problema:

 Tengo un servidor con la ultima version de Centos 5.
 Luego instale y configure OpenLdap (openldap-servers-2.3.43-3.

 el5).
 Luego configure el dominio Samba (Version 3.0.33-3.7.el5) con OpenLdap.

 

Re: [CentOS-es] problema de validacion con samba como PDC y LDAP

2009-07-31 Thread Juan Pablo Botero
Mira el Log de samba que pasa cuando alguien intenta ingresar
'/var/log/samba'




¿Es posible realizar la prueba conectando un equipo linux?.
Entre el PDC  y la red hay algún firewall?.



2009/7/31 samuel correa samuel.cor...@gmail.com

 Hola a todos.

 Los que me comentaron lo del SELinux, ya lo deshabilite y nada pasó.. todo
 está igual.
 para deshabilitarlo usé el comando:

 system-config-securitylevel

 y luego en la opción:  Deshabilitar.
 Reinicié el equipo y nada.

 Lo del smbldap-tools, claro que lo instalé y configuré, acá pongo los
 archivos de configuración:


 
 */etc/smbldap-tools/smbldap_bind.conf *

 slaveDN=cn=Manager,dc=idealix,dc=org
 slavePw=secret
 masterDN=cn=cacique,dc=prueba,dc=cs,dc=udea,dc=edu,dc=co
 masterPw=secret


 
 */etc/smbldap-tools/*


 ##
 #
 # General Configuration
 #

 ##

 SID=S-1-5-21-3913098102-3033589265-2515174398

 ##
 #
 # LDAP Configuration
 #

 ##
 slaveLDAP=127.0.0.1
 slavePort=389

 masterLDAP=127.0.0.1
 masterPort=389

 ldapTLS=0

 verify=require

 cafile=/etc/smbldap-tools/ca.pem

 clientcert=/etc/smbldap-tools/smbldap-tools.pem

 clientkey=/etc/smbldap-tools/smbldap-tools.key

 suffix=dc=prueba,dc=cs,dc=udea,dc=edu,dc=co

 usersdn=ou=estudiantes,${suffix}

 computersdn=ou=maquinas,${suffix}

 groupsdn=ou=grupos,${suffix}

 idmapdn=ou=Idmap,${suffix}

 sambaUnixIdPooldn=cn=NextFreeUnixId,${suffix}

 scope=sub

 hash_encrypt=MD5

 crypt_salt_format=%s


 ##
 #
 # Unix Accounts Configuration
 #

 ##

 userLoginShell=/bin/bash

 userHome=/Estudiantes/%U

 userHomeDirectoryMode=755

 userGecos=Luis  fernando Padilla Almanza

 defaultUserGid=513

 defaultComputerGid=515

 skeletonDir=/etc/skel

 defaultMaxPasswordAge=45


 ##
 #
 # SAMBA Configuration
 #

 ##

 userSmbHome=\\SIONA\%U

 userProfile=

 userHomeDrive=X:

 mailDomain=prueba.cs.udea.edu.co


 ##
 #
 # SMBLDAP-TOOLS Configuration (default are ok for a RedHat)
 #

 ##

 with_smbpasswd=0
 smbpasswd=/usr/bin/smbpasswd


 

 Por favor!!.. siguan sugiriendome cosas!!... ustedes son mi única
 esperanza!.-
 .

 samuel

 2009/7/30 Germán C. Basisty german.basi...@eipsistemas.com.ar

   Pregunta tonta, pero no me queda claro en tu mail:



 Instalaste y configuraste smbldap-tools?


 Saludos.



 *De:* centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org]
 *En nombre de *samuel correa
 *Enviado el:* jueves, 30 de julio de 2009 06:12 p.m.

 *Para:* centos-es@centos.org
 *Asunto:* Re: [CentOS-es] problema de validacion con samba como PDC y
 LDAP



 Hola.

 Gracias por responder, lamento decirlo pero la solución que me propones no
 me dió el resultado esperado, es decir, sigo con el mismo problema...

 alguna otra sugerencia??...

 (es de caracter HYPERIMPORTANTE!)

 Samuel


  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Germán C. Basisty 
 german.basi...@eipsistemas.com.ar wrote:

 Tenes que modificar el registro de xp.



 Hklm\system\currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters\requiresignorseal
 que esta en 1 pasarlo a 0.



 Si esta todo bien tiene que salir andando derecho.



 Saludos.





 *Germán C. Basisty*

 *EIP SISTEMAS*

 *Consultor - Tecnología Informática*

 tel./fax +54 (299) 436 6929

 cel. +54 (2942) 15 472 223

 german.basi...@eipsistemas.com.ar

 http://ww.eipsistemas.com.ar





 *De:* centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org]
 *En nombre de *samuel correa
 *Enviado el:* jueves, 30 de julio de 2009 02:20 p.m.
 *Para:* centos-es@centos.org
 *Asunto:* Re: [CentOS-es] problema de validacion con samba como PDC y
 LDAP



 Hola.. no se si ya me respondieron.. es que no estaba inscrito a la lista
 y no sabria si ya respondieron o no.. si ya respondieron podrian hacerlo de
 nuevo que ya si estoy inscrito en la lista... de lo 

[CentOS-es] Problema con mtrr Centos 5.3 Kernel i386 2.6.18-128.2.1.PAE

2009-07-31 Thread Carlos German Tejero
Al final les cuento que hoy me decidi y descargue y compile el kernel
2.6.30.3 de kernel.org. Funciono perfecto y no tuve mayores problemas, salvo
unos modules para el kernel de sunray, gracias a dios alguien los habia
modificado para el kernel 2.6.29, y con esas modificaciones anduvo todo ok.
Ahora el /proc/mtrr reporta los valores esperados y hasta es posible
modificarlo normalmente, en el dmesg tira el mensaje de que mi BIOS setea la
mascara en el mtrr de forma incorrecta y dice que lo corrige. Realmente no
se a quien creerle, si al fabricante o a los desarrolladores del kernel.
Igual por suerte pude sortear el obstáculo.

 Has probado a arrancar con todas las sugerencias de parámetros
 relativos a acpi, etc?

No, no creo que tenga que ver con acpi, el problema es el mtrr

Has buscado si hay un reporte de tu problema registrado como bug del
kernel (http://bugzilla.kernel.org/)? O en Red Hat
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/)? Busca con algo como mtrr freeze o
mencionando el modelo de motherboard.

No realmente no tuve mucho tiempo, necesitaba poner el server online lo
antes posible

Has probado a reemplazar la memoria, intercambiar bancos de lugar, o
reducir el tamaño de la memoria, y registrar si hay diferencias en el
dmesg de los sucesivos arranques? Eso puede orientarte en la búsqueda
del presunto bug.

Probe con todas las configuraciones posibles de memoria, y nada, el
/proc/mtrr sigue mal

Si no lo hay y ninguna de las cosas que pruebes arregla tu problema,
deberías pensar en registrar un bug.

Puede que el lunes lo reporte, pero me parece que es un problema ya
conocido.

Has probado el kernel de centosplus?

Si tambien probe por las dudas

Saludos

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Re: [CentOS] LDAP howto using ds-base and ds-admin and related consoles

2009-07-31 Thread Tony Molloy
On Thursday 30 July 2009 19:23:24 Kwan Lowe wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Rob Kampenrkam...@kampensonline.com
 wrote: [snip]

  I have read many hundreds of pages, have purchased O'reilly's LDAP System
  Administration but cannot seem to get my dirsrv based LDAP to function.
  I do understand that ds uses LDIF files to store and set things up, but
  seem unable to grasp the arcane entries that need to exist so I can
  access it with a basic LDAP client to load my users etc.
  Also I guess there are certain schemas that need to be used to allow
  basic functions to work.
  My wish list:
  linux user authentication and authorization
  windows user authentication and authorization (via samba?)
  customer contact list (name, address, company, phone numbers, email
  addresses)
  - this last one to be used by Thunderbird and my SIP phone system - both
  of which profess to speak LDAP
  I'm sure there are many small business folk that would like something
  like this, however I cannot find a template with all my searches, so for
  those of you with better LDAP and or google skills - please point me in
  the right direction.


I'm going through the same process as Rob ( the OP ) at the moment. I want to 
setup centos-directory server. initially I want it to replace a NIS and Samba 
system with about 1200 existing users. 

 There's a pretty straightforward guide at HowToForge.com (search for
 CentOS LDAP). It's a little dated, but works as advertised.  In a
 nutshell the installation requires installing the centos-ds packages
 (about 4), installing a Sun Java, and then populating the database.
 The client side is even simpler.

Installing centos-ds is not a problem. It's what you do after it. Especially 
for people like me who have no experience with OpenLDAP.


 Linux and Windows user authentication is straightforward, with GUI
 based setup and editing.


With 1200 existing users to be migrated then GUI based setup and editing is 
not very useful.

 The default schema I use doesn't include address, company, etc., but
 these are very easily added.  I tested with kaddressbook and a couple
 other LDAP browsers without any glitches.

I'm going through the Howto:Samba from directory.fedoraproject.org at the 
moment and hopefully that will get me started.

But what would be nice is:

1. Howto:migtate existing NIS to CentosDS
2. Howto:migrate existing Samba to CentosDS

Regards,

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[CentOS] Weird permission

2009-07-31 Thread muhammad panji
Dear all,
I got weird permission on one of my server, when I ls -l the / i got
permission for all directory set to drwxr-xr-x. there are dot after
the executable permission for others. what dot mean in permission and
how to fix it? the actual problem is I could login via ssh but cannot
login via winscp. any idea how to fix this? thanks in advance
best regards,




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Re: [CentOS] Weird permission

2009-07-31 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Muhammad panji wrote on Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:48:29 +0700:

 I got weird permission on one of my server, when I ls -l the / i got
 permission for all directory set to drwxr-xr-x. there are dot after
 the executable permission for others. what dot mean in permission and
 how to fix it?

I have never seen or heard of this. I would assume that is a formatting 
glitch produced by some shell login setting. It might help if you showed 
the whole output.


the actual problem is I could login via ssh but cannot
 login via winscp

Change the default WinSCP login from SFTP to SCP.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] Weird permission

2009-07-31 Thread Mike A. Harris
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muhammad panji wrote:
 Dear all,
 I got weird permission on one of my server, when I ls -l the / i got
 permission for all directory set to drwxr-xr-x. there are dot after
 the executable permission for others. what dot mean in permission and
 how to fix it? the actual problem is I could login via ssh but cannot
 login via winscp. any idea how to fix this? thanks in advance
 best regards,

IIRC, the . at the end of the permissions indicates that the file has
additional permission controls beyond the standard DAC bits, such as
filesystem ACLs, filesystem capabilities, or other attributes.

Filesystem capabilities support is not present in CentOS 5, so are you
using ACLs?  What does the following show:

getfacl --tabular /*


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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/31/2009 02:27 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 I don't have any legal obligation to help old ladies cross the street,
 or rescue cats from trees. It's what you do because you're a good
 person. Doing this in a community sense is what makes you a good
 neighbor, and what helps build community reputation.

 I have to agree with Jim here.  It is not legal obligation or
 anything.

I believe thats the same point that Johnny was making - these are 
choices we have, and we would like to do this. So, not because we have 
to but because we want to.

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[CentOS] DNS zone delegation

2009-07-31 Thread Gopinath Achari
Hi,

i have configured a Master DNS server, i have also created 
records to delegate a zone to child dns server
But when named service is started it says 

Jul 31 14:33:30 localhost named[21581]: dns.zone:9: ignoring out-of-zone data 
(child.dns.com)

I am using bind-9.3.4-10.P1.el5_3.3. on CEntos 5.2

Please help. Thanks in advance. 

how to delegate the zone, is there any other configuration needed


my zone file ...

$TTL86400
@   IN  SOA dns.com. root.dns.com.  (
  1997022700 ; Serial
  28800  ; Refresh
  14400  ; Retry
  360; Expire
  86400 ); Minimum
IN  NS  dns.com.
child.dns.com.  IN  NS  ns.child.dns.com.

101 IN  PTR dns.com.
@   IN  A   192.168.1.101

ns.childIN  A   192.168.1.107
www 0   IN  A   192.168.1.101
www 0   IN  A   192.168.1.102
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[CentOS] [fun] 10th annual System Administrator Appreciation Day

2009-07-31 Thread kOoLiNuS
Friday, July 31, 2009, is the 10th annual System Administrator 
Appreciation Day. On this special international day, give your System 
Administrator something that shows that you truly appreciate their hard 
work and dedication. (All day Friday, 24 hours, your local timezone).

http://www.sysadminday.com/


^___^

Thank You SysAdmins !!!




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Re: [CentOS] Weird permission

2009-07-31 Thread Stephen Harris
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:46:53AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 IIRC, the . at the end of the permissions indicates that the file has
 additional permission controls beyond the standard DAC bits, such as
 filesystem ACLs, filesystem capabilities, or other attributes.

FACLs are normally indicated by a + at the end of the permissions.

  $ ls -ld .
  drwxr-xr-x 2 sweh sweh 4096 Jul 31 06:38 ./
  
  $ setfacl -m user:named:- .
  
  $ ls -ld .
  drwxr-xr-x+ 2 sweh sweh 4096 Jul 31 06:38 ./
[note the +]

  $ getfacl .
  # file: .
  # owner: sweh
  # group: sweh
  user::rwx
  user:named:---
  group::r-x
  mask::r-x
  other::r-x

Attributes (chattr) don't get shown by any special character
  $ ls -ld .
  drwxr-xr-x 2 sweh sweh 4096 Jul 31 06:41 ./

  $ chattr +d .

  $ ls -ld .
  drwxr-xr-x 2 sweh sweh 4096 Jul 31 06:41 ./

  $ lsattr -ad .
  --d-- .


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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article 20090730170329.ge4...@roque.1407.org,
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote:
 If possible, maintain the centos name.
 
 Is there a .os tld? cent.os ? :)

No:

$ host -tns com.
com name server g.gtld-servers.net.
com name server h.gtld-servers.net.
com name server i.gtld-servers.net.
com name server j.gtld-servers.net.
com name server k.gtld-servers.net.
com name server l.gtld-servers.net.
com name server m.gtld-servers.net.
com name server a.gtld-servers.net.
com name server b.gtld-servers.net.
com name server c.gtld-servers.net.
com name server d.gtld-servers.net.
com name server e.gtld-servers.net.
com name server f.gtld-servers.net.
$ host -tns os.
Host os not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
$ 

Cheers
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[CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread sam R
I have very basic question:

I have downloaded *CentOS-5.3-i386-LiveCD* from CentOS website. Now I need
to install it on my Acer Laptop permanently not as a liveCD. How do I burn
it to a DVD to be able to install it by simply restarting my laptop?

Thank you,

Sam
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:14 +0300 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 
 
 I have very basic question:
 
 I have downloaded *CentOS-5.3-i386-LiveCD* from CentOS website. Now I need
 to install it on my Acer Laptop permanently not as a liveCD. How do I burn
 it to a DVD to be able to install it by simply restarting my laptop?

The CentOS Live CD are not 'install' CDs -- they don't include the
installer or the RPMs.  You should download the CentOS install DVD and
burn that.

 
 Thank you,
 
 Sam
 
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Re: [CentOS] Centos convert to rhel?

2009-07-31 Thread Ingemar Nilsson
Tom Brown wrote:

 why is everyone getting so jumpy - its only a domain name thats at 
 stake, he's been AWOL for a year or more and the project has been OK
 
 people should worry less

I understand the worries. The news have reached the front page of 
Slashdot, and thus might reach certain technically inclined managers, 
which in turn may cause questions about contingency plans to be directed 
at the IT staff. I have a feeling that I have no contingency plan, 
don't worry, the problem will be solved is not such a good answer to 
such queries.

Thus, the worrying.

Regards
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 31 July 2009 13:05:52 Robert Heller wrote:
 At Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:14 +0300 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:
  I have very basic question:
 
  I have downloaded *CentOS-5.3-i386-LiveCD* from CentOS website. Now I
  need to install it on my Acer Laptop permanently not as a liveCD. How do
  I burn it to a DVD to be able to install it by simply restarting my
  laptop?

 The CentOS Live CD are not 'install' CDs -- they don't include the
 installer or the RPMs.  You should download the CentOS install DVD and
 burn that.

And to answer the 'how-to' bit - you can burn the cd in Windows or Linux.  
Normally any burning program will have an option to 'burn an image', or 
similar.  It's not usually as obvious as a plain burn, but tucked away in a 
menu.  Now you know what you are looking for you should find it easily enough.

One thing.  Most burning applications give you the option to verify after the 
burn.   What this means is that it calculates a checksum of the original file, 
then compares with the checksum of the burned file.  It's a good idea to get 
into the habit of always setting the verify when it is available to you.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos convert to rhel?

2009-07-31 Thread Tom Brown

 I understand the worries. The news have reached the front page of 
 Slashdot, and thus might reach certain technically inclined managers, 
 which in turn may cause questions about contingency plans to be directed 
 at the IT staff. I have a feeling that I have no contingency plan, 
 don't worry, the problem will be solved is not such a good answer to 
 such queries.

 Thus, the worrying.


   

tell said managers to open the coffers and pay for support if they are 
that worried

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Re: [CentOS] X Crashing on 64 Bit CentOS

2009-07-31 Thread Paul Griffith
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:55:42 -0400, Clint Dilks cli...@scms.waikato.ac.nz 
wrote:

 Hi People,

 I have a user who is regularly having X Crash.  This seemed to happen
 once a month but has increased to once or twice a week.  It doesn't seem
 to be application specific.  The only information about whats causing
 the crash is from the X log.  But this doesn't really give much to go on.

 Backtrace:
 0: /usr/bin/Xorg(xf86SigHandler+0x71) [0x4865b1]
 1: /lib64/libc.so.6 [0x3475430280]
 2: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfb.so(fbCopyAreammx+0x274) [0x2b917c4dbe14]
 3: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfb.so(fbComposite+0x5db) [0x2b917c4cc65b]
 4: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libxaa.so(XAAComposite+0x2ac) [0x2b917c71d94c]
 5: /usr/bin/Xorg [0x51379d]
 6: /usr/bin/Xorg [0x50fb54]
 7: /usr/bin/Xorg [0x5032ef]
 8: /usr/bin/Xorg(Dispatch+0x1ca) [0x449c9a]
 9: /usr/bin/Xorg(main+0x44e) [0x4325ee]
 10: /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf4) [0x347541d974]

 Any suggestions as to how I diagnose this further?  I have just applied
 the latest update

I would start by turning off the composite extensions! Try bumping up the 
debug/logging level!

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 21:15 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Akemi Yagi wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Jim Perrinjper...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Johnny Hughesjoh...@centos.org wrote:
  
  Why ... we are under no obligation to tell people how how we spend
  monies.  There are costs that are incurred for any organization.  We are
  probably going to disclose how monies are spent in the future because we
  choose to.  If you run a private organization, must you tell me how you
  spend your money?  You get an OS and can chose to donate monies or not.
  We're not under any obligation to tell people how the money gets
  spent, but doing so certainly goes a long way building good will. In
  my opinion, a simple 'We got X monies in donations which were used to
  purchase dedicated hosting, bandwidth, and various novelties for booth
  and show kit' once in a while would do worlds of good for showing
  people how we use the money they choose to give us.
 
  I don't have any legal obligation to help old ladies cross the street,
  or rescue cats from trees. It's what you do because you're a good
  person. Doing this in a community sense is what makes you a good
  neighbor, and what helps build community reputation.
  
  I have to agree with Jim here.  It is not legal obligation or
  anything. IF I am running a project and ask the community for help and
  I receive donations (monetary or in the form of thousands of donated
  hours), I would feel obliged to return back to the community.  And in
  doing so, I would want to disclose everything.  Once again, this is
  not due to any legal requirements but because I would feel the project
  is no longer my private toy and I owe the community.
  
  We are hiding nothing ... why exactly does CentOS need to provide that
  information to you?
  
  Thinking that this is entirely an internal manner is a bit
  short-sighted. Keeping all the problems internal doesn't solve them.
  Not to speak for Dag, but judging by his blog reaction to the news,
  the finance issue and lack of openness is part of what drove his
  departure. If we move to adopt a slightly more open approach and
  include more community efforts, I believe that we'll see a great deal
  of good from it.
 
  It's not that we OWE the community anything. It's that we should do it
  because it's how we want to be treated, and how we SHOULD deal with
  them while we participate in the project.
  
  I mostly agree with Jim.  As I wrote above, if this was my project, I
  would feel I *owe* the community.  But that is strictly my personal
  feelings.  I cannot imagine how I can ever pay back if those who
  donated their time ask for refund. :)
 
 Actually, I agree with Jim too :)
 
 We will likely do all or most of these things because we want to do so,
 but not because we have too.
 
 My point was that we wanted to give someone the benefit of the doubt
 because we were trying to do right by him too ... now we (as a group)
 think we need to do something differently, and we will.  Regardless of
 what else we do, we still have to acknowledge that without Lance, there
 would have been no CentOS at all ... and because of that we probably
 waited to long to push this issue.  However, we did it because of good
 intentions and hopes of someone doing the right thing, not to hide
 anything.

totally agree and just want to add one more thing...I am very happy to
see Johnny posting to this list. It has been a long time and I hope you
are well.

Craig


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Re: [CentOS] LDAP howto using ds-base and ds-admin and related consoles

2009-07-31 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 08:20 +0100, Tony Molloy wrote:
 On Thursday 30 July 2009 19:23:24 Kwan Lowe wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Rob Kampenrkam...@kampensonline.com
  wrote: [snip]
 
   I have read many hundreds of pages, have purchased O'reilly's LDAP System
   Administration but cannot seem to get my dirsrv based LDAP to function.
   I do understand that ds uses LDIF files to store and set things up, but
   seem unable to grasp the arcane entries that need to exist so I can
   access it with a basic LDAP client to load my users etc.
   Also I guess there are certain schemas that need to be used to allow
   basic functions to work.
   My wish list:
   linux user authentication and authorization
   windows user authentication and authorization (via samba?)
   customer contact list (name, address, company, phone numbers, email
   addresses)
   - this last one to be used by Thunderbird and my SIP phone system - both
   of which profess to speak LDAP
   I'm sure there are many small business folk that would like something
   like this, however I cannot find a template with all my searches, so for
   those of you with better LDAP and or google skills - please point me in
   the right direction.
 
 
 I'm going through the same process as Rob ( the OP ) at the moment. I want to 
 setup centos-directory server. initially I want it to replace a NIS and Samba 
 system with about 1200 existing users. 
 
  There's a pretty straightforward guide at HowToForge.com (search for
  CentOS LDAP). It's a little dated, but works as advertised.  In a
  nutshell the installation requires installing the centos-ds packages
  (about 4), installing a Sun Java, and then populating the database.
  The client side is even simpler.
 
 Installing centos-ds is not a problem. It's what you do after it. Especially 
 for people like me who have no experience with OpenLDAP.
 
 
  Linux and Windows user authentication is straightforward, with GUI
  based setup and editing.
 
 
 With 1200 existing users to be migrated then GUI based setup and editing is 
 not very useful.
 
  The default schema I use doesn't include address, company, etc., but
  these are very easily added.  I tested with kaddressbook and a couple
  other LDAP browsers without any glitches.
 
 I'm going through the Howto:Samba from directory.fedoraproject.org at the 
 moment and hopefully that will get me started.
 
 But what would be nice is:
 
 1. Howto:migtate existing NIS to CentosDS
 2. Howto:migrate existing Samba to CentosDS

seriously...I don't think you are ever going to find such a beast.

There are some really good tools from padl to migrate nis to ldap (on
Redhat/CentOS installed as part of openldap-servers package). This may
require some amount of script-fu (perl, sed, awk, etc.) but not too
much. Then to add the samba attributes/passwords/machine accounts will
require a larger dose of script-fu.

But this all would be virtually impossible without a decent knowledge of
how LDAP works and that is regardless of whether you use CentOS-DS or
OpenLDAP.

Craig


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[CentOS] Somewhat OT: OpenOffice.org Headless issues as non-root user

2009-07-31 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi,

I've installed recently OpenOffice.org 3.1 on Centos 5.3. I use OOo in
headless mode. I have no problem when running as root, but I'd prefer
run it as non-root user (oooserver user). When I run the script in
debug mode this is the output:

sh -x/tmp/ooo-headless-nonroot start
+ . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
++ TEXTDOMAIN=initscripts
++ umask 022
++ PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
++ export PATH
++ '[' -z '' ']'
++ COLUMNS=80
++ '[' -z '' ']'
+++ /sbin/consoletype
++ CONSOLETYPE=pty
++ '[' -f /etc/sysconfig/i18n -a -z '' ']'
++ . /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
+++ sourced=0
+++ for langfile in /etc/sysconfig/i18n '$HOME/.i18n'
+++ '[' -f /etc/sysconfig/i18n ']'
+++ . /etc/sysconfig/i18n
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
+++ sourced=1
+++ for langfile in /etc/sysconfig/i18n '$HOME/.i18n'
+++ '[' -f /root/.i18n ']'
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ '[' 1 = 1 ']'
+++ '[' -n en_US.UTF-8 ']'
+++ export LANG
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_ADDRESS
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_CTYPE
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_COLLATE
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_IDENTIFICATION
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_MEASUREMENT
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_MESSAGES
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_MONETARY
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_NAME
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_NUMERIC
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_PAPER
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_TELEPHONE
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_TIME
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LC_ALL
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LANGUAGE
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset LINGUAS
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ unset _XKB_CHARSET
 /sbin/consoletype
+++ consoletype=pty
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ '[' -n en_US.UTF-8 ']'
+++ case $LANG in
+++ '[' xterm = linux ']'
+++ unset SYSFONTACM SYSFONT
+++ unset sourced
+++ unset langfile
++ '[' -z '' ']'
++ '[' -f /etc/sysconfig/init ']'
++ . /etc/sysconfig/init
+++ BOOTUP=color
+++ GRAPHICAL=yes
+++ RES_COL=60
+++ MOVE_TO_COL='echo -en \033[60G'
+++ SETCOLOR_SUCCESS='echo -en \033[0;32m'
+++ SETCOLOR_FAILURE='echo -en \033[0;31m'
+++ SETCOLOR_WARNING='echo -en \033[0;33m'
+++ SETCOLOR_NORMAL='echo -en \033[0;39m'
+++ LOGLEVEL=3
+++ PROMPT=yes
+++ AUTOSWAP=no
++ '[' pty = serial ']'
++ '[' color '!=' verbose ']'
++ INITLOG_ARGS=-q
++ 
__sed_discard_ignored_files='/\(~\|\.bak\|\.orig\|\.rpmnew\|\.rpmorig\|\.rpmsave\)$/d'
+ ooffice=/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin
+ prog='OpenOffice.org Headless'
+ pidfile=/var/run/ooo-headless/ooo-headless.pid
+ lockfile=/var/lock/subsys/ooo-headless
+ OPTIONS='-headless -nofirststartwizard -nologo -norestore -invisible
-accept=socket,host=localhost,port=2002;urp;StarOffice.Service'
+ RETVAL=0
+ case $1 in
+ start
+ echo -n 'Starting OpenOffice.org Headless: '
Starting OpenOffice.org Headless: + su oooserver '-c
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin -headless -nofirststartwizard
-nologo -norestore -invisible
-accept=socket,host=localhost,port=2002;urp;StarOffice.Service
/dev/null 21 '

End oif Output

You can see the ps output too:

root 19432  0.0  0.2   4908  1228 pts/0S+   10:46   0:00  |
 \_ su oooserver -c /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin
-headless -nofirststartwizard -nologo -norestore -invisible
-accept=socket,host=localhost,port=2002;urp;StarOffice.Service
/dev/null 21 
500  19433  0.0  0.2   4484  1040 ?Ss   10:46   0:00  |
 \_ bash -c  /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin
-headless -nofirststartwizard -nologo -norestore -invisible
-accept=socket,host=localhost,port=2002;urp;StarOffice.Service
/dev/null 21 
500  19434  6.4  5.0 100492 22520 ?Sl   10:46   0:00  |
 \_ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin -headless
-nofirststartwizard -nologo -norestore -invisible
-accept=socket,host=localhost,port=2002


Problem is that it fails at listening on port 2002 and it never
creates  pid file:

ls -ld /var/run/ooo-headless/
drwxr-xr-x 2 oooserver oooserver 4096 Jul 30 15:07 /var/run/ooo-headless/

Please could you help me to root as non-root user?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [CentOS] DNS zone delegation

2009-07-31 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, July 31, 2009 4:54 PM +0530 Gopinath Achari 
gopin...@signal-networks.com wrote:

   i have configured a Master DNS server, i have also created 
 records to
 delegate a zone to child dns server But when named service is started it
 says

 Jul 31 14:33:30 localhost named[21581]: dns.zone:9: ignoring out-of-zone
 data (child.dns.com)

http://www.google.com/search?q=ignoring+out+of+zone+data

At a guess, from looking at a few hits from that search, you need an origin 
statement and don't want a fully-qualified name for the child NS record.


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Re: [CentOS] files not showing up in an nfs mounted filesysetm in timely manner

2009-07-31 Thread Blackburn, Marvin
Alan,
We set actimeo=3 and this has significantly improved our problem.
I saw this value in an HP thread and seemed reasonable.

Thanks for the heads up. 

_
He's no failure. He's not dead yet.
William Lloyd George

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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Alan Sparks
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:58 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] files not showing up in an nfs mounted filesysetm
in timely manner

Blackburn, Marvin wrote:

 We have and nfs mount from a windows pc nfs server.  A file is created
 on the server, but can take as long as 50 seconds to become available
 on the client.

 We are running Centos 5.2 (final), using NFS version 3.  Is there
 anything we can do from the client side to see the file more quickly. 
 The files are very small, usually about 1k


Look at the nfs man page and consider mount options such as acdirmin,
acdirmax (or actimeo), possibly even noac in specific circumstances.
-Alan

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Connie Sieh wrote:
 
 On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Les Mikesell wrote:
 
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
 Has anyone considered joining forces with Scientific Linux to reduce the
   workload and give both a more robust infrastructure?
 Yes, but the goals are rather different.
 I thought both had upstream compatibility as the main goal - and both
 seem competent enough that I wouldn't expect many problems in this
 regard.  SL also claims a secondary goal of making site customization
 easy - perhaps Centos as we know it could simply be one of those
 customizations and going forward other variations would be easy.  If the
 people doing the work aren't getting any value out of the brand name, I
 don't see the point of fragmenting the user community for what is
 essentially the same thing.
 
 I was expecting it to be the other way around.  With Centos the base and 
 SL a site(or something like it). In RHEL 6 I expect the distro rebuild tools 
 to make sites easier.  This 
 comment is based on the distro rebuild tools in Fedora.  We built a custom 
 Fedora 10 to test this idea.  These are pungi, revisor and the iso image 
 tool(forgot its name).
 
 -Connie Sieh
 
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CentOS and Scientific Linux together would be like dream come true.

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Re: [CentOS] LDAP howto using ds-base and ds-admin and related consoles

2009-07-31 Thread Tony Molloy
On Friday 31 July 2009 15:05:29 Craig White wrote:

snip
  I'm going through the Howto:Samba from directory.fedoraproject.org at
  the moment and hopefully that will get me started.
 
  But what would be nice is:
 
  1. Howto:migtate existing NIS to CentosDS
  2. Howto:migrate existing Samba to CentosDS

 
 seriously...I don't think you are ever going to find such a beast.

True, it was a wish list after all ;-)

 There are some really good tools from padl to migrate nis to ldap (on
 Redhat/CentOS installed as part of openldap-servers package). This may
 require some amount of script-fu (perl, sed, awk, etc.) but not too
 much. Then to add the samba attributes/passwords/machine accounts will
 require a larger dose of script-fu.

I've got them and they are useful. As I said I'm going through the Howto:Samba 
now.

 But this all would be virtually impossible without a decent knowledge of
 how LDAP works and that is regardless of whether you use CentOS-DS or
 OpenLDAP.

 Craig

After reading Carter's book I think i've got some idea of how LDAP works. Just 
a pity that most books/documentation seem to be about OpenLDAP so it takes a 
while to convert to Centos-DS.

regards,
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Re: [CentOS] LDAP howto using ds-base and ds-admin and related consoles

2009-07-31 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 16:00 +0100, Tony Molloy wrote:
  But this all would be virtually impossible without a decent
 knowledge of
  how LDAP works and that is regardless of whether you use CentOS-DS
 or
  OpenLDAP.
 
  Craig
 
 After reading Carter's book I think i've got some idea of how LDAP
 works. Just 
 a pity that most books/documentation seem to be about OpenLDAP so it
 takes a 
 while to convert to Centos-DS.

I agree that Gerald Carter's book makes LDAP understandable.

The reality is that the LDAP API is pretty much the same and you
actually use openldap-client and nss-ldap tools even with CentOS-DS. I
haven't used CentOS-DS but I have used Fedora-DS and it is built from
Fedora-DS. The difference between them is setup of schema, certificates,
ACL's/ACI's and I found once I understood OpenLDAP, that Fedora-DS was
easy enough to use with only a few questions.

I think you might want to subscribe to
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-directory-users

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
 Connie Sieh wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
 Has anyone considered joining forces with Scientific Linux to reduce the
   workload and give both a more robust infrastructure?
 Yes, but the goals are rather different.
 I thought both had upstream compatibility as the main goal - and both
 seem competent enough that I wouldn't expect many problems in this
 regard.  SL also claims a secondary goal of making site customization
 easy - perhaps Centos as we know it could simply be one of those
 customizations and going forward other variations would be easy.  If the
 people doing the work aren't getting any value out of the brand name, I
 don't see the point of fragmenting the user community for what is
 essentially the same thing.
 I was expecting it to be the other way around.  With Centos the base and 
 SL a site(or something like it). In RHEL 6 I expect the distro rebuild tools 
 to make sites easier.  This 
 comment is based on the distro rebuild tools in Fedora.  We built a custom 
 Fedora 10 to test this idea.  These are pungi, revisor and the iso image 
 tool(forgot its name).
 
 CentOS and Scientific Linux together would be like dream come true.

My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely 
minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there 
would be a way that anyone could 'publish' their installed list of 
repositories and packages and anyone else could duplicate that machine's 
setup just by picking that list from a set of choices with the installer 
dealing with the hardware differences for you.  This would eliminate 
most of the need for custom rebuilds and respins - at least for anyone 
with network access, and in my opinion the optimal combination of many 
thousands of packages is something that deserves to be be crowdsourced. 
  But, so far no one has done it and whenever the discussion of modified 
CentOS respins comes up the developers have seemed pretty lukewarm to 
the idea, as though it would devalue their brand.

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Re: [CentOS] LDAP howto using ds-base and ds-admin and related consoles

2009-07-31 Thread Tony Molloy
On Friday 31 July 2009 16:12:12 Craig White wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 16:00 +0100, Tony Molloy wrote:
   But this all would be virtually impossible without a decent
 
  knowledge of
 
   how LDAP works and that is regardless of whether you use CentOS-DS
 
  or
 
   OpenLDAP.
  
   Craig
 
  After reading Carter's book I think i've got some idea of how LDAP
  works. Just
  a pity that most books/documentation seem to be about OpenLDAP so it
  takes a
  while to convert to Centos-DS.

 
 I agree that Gerald Carter's book makes LDAP understandable.

 The reality is that the LDAP API is pretty much the same and you
 actually use openldap-client and nss-ldap tools even with CentOS-DS. I
 haven't used CentOS-DS but I have used Fedora-DS and it is built from
 Fedora-DS. The difference between them is setup of schema, certificates,
 ACL's/ACI's and I found once I understood OpenLDAP, that Fedora-DS was
 easy enough to use with only a few questions.

 I think you might want to subscribe to
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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 53, Issue 10

2009-07-31 Thread centos-announce-request
-nspr-devel-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-devel-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.i386.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 i386 installations by running the command:

yum update seamonkey

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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:1185

seamonkey security update for CentOS 3 x86_64:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1185.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

x86_64:
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-chat-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-devel-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-dom-inspector-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-js-debugger-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-mail-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-devel-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-devel-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.41.el3.centos3.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 x86_64 installations by running the command:

yum update seamonkey

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[CentOS] (no subject)

2009-07-31 Thread rray_1
I have 2 video devices LML33 and PV155

$ lspci
06:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Zoran Corporation ZR36057PQC Video 
cutting chipset (rev 02)
07:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video 
Capture (rev 11)
07:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture 
(rev 11)
07:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video 
Capture (rev 11)
07:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture 
(rev 11)
07:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video 
Capture (rev 11)
07:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture 
(rev 11)
07:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video 
Capture (rev 11)
07:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture 
(rev 11)

$ udevinfo -q path -n /dev/video0
/class/video4linux/video0
$ udevinfo -a -p /class/video4linux/video0

Udevinfo starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device
found, all possible attributes in the udev rules key format.
A rule to match, can be composed by the attributes of the device
and the attributes from one single parent device.

   looking at device '/class/video4linux/video0':
 KERNEL==video0
 SUBSYSTEM==video4linux
 SYSFS{name}==LML33_0_
 SYSFS{dev}==81:0

$ udevinfo -q path -n /dev/video1
no record for 'video1' in database
$ udevinfo -q path -n /dev/video2
no record for 'video2' in database
$ udevinfo -q path -n /dev/video3
no record for 'video3' in database
$ udevinfo -q path -n /dev/video4
no record for 'video4' in database

The problem is sometimes when I boot the LML33 is /dev/video0 and 
sometimes /dev/video4
I tried a udev rule
SUBSYSTEM==video4linux, SYSFS{name}==LML33_0_,SYMLINK=lml33
but it doesn't work
What do I need to do to get consistant device naming?

I am using CentOS 5.3, kernel 2.6.18-92.1.22.el5.centos.plus, and
udev-095-14.20.el5_3 package

Thanks
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Re: [CentOS] LDAP howto using ds-base and ds-admin and related consoles

2009-07-31 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Tony Molloytony.mol...@ul.ie wrote:

 Installing centos-ds is not a problem. It's what you do after it. Especially
 for people like me who have no experience with OpenLDAP.


 Linux and Windows user authentication is straightforward, with GUI
 based setup and editing.


 With 1200 existing users to be migrated then GUI based setup and editing is
 not very useful.

I had to move about 200 Unix users from OpenLDAP to RHDS. For a brief
moment I considered just manually doing it, but reason got the better
of me.  The approach I took:

1) Exported the database from OpenLDAP. Actually, just used an
ldapsearch and pulled over all the users and groups and dropped it
into and LDIF.

2) Created a few test users on Fedora DS then ran a similar export
process. This gave me an LDIF that I could compare.

3) Next was a matter of writing a bunch of awk scripts to convert the
OpenLDAP to Fedora LDIF format. The biggest problem I had was the
password format. I don't recall much of the details exactly, but there
were some issues with the crypt method. In the end I wrote another
script that wrapped mkpasswd and then just did an update. It emailed
the users with the new password. For those without an email address
(maybe 30 or so),  it set a default password based on the username.



 The default schema I use doesn't include address, company, etc., but
 these are very easily added.  I tested with kaddressbook and a couple
 other LDAP browsers without any glitches.

 I'm going through the Howto:Samba from directory.fedoraproject.org at the
 moment and hopefully that will get me started.

 But what would be nice is:

 1. Howto:migtate existing NIS to CentosDS
 2. Howto:migrate existing Samba to CentosDS

For the LDAP information itself, you could probably do a similar
thing. E.g., parse the relevant passwd, group, shadow and login files
then create an LDIF to import. OpenLDAP has a bunch of scripts to
migrate from NIS/local files also, so they would be my first step.
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Les Mikesell wrote:
 Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
 Connie Sieh wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
 Has anyone considered joining forces with Scientific Linux to reduce the
   workload and give both a more robust infrastructure?
 Yes, but the goals are rather different.
 I thought both had upstream compatibility as the main goal - and both
 seem competent enough that I wouldn't expect many problems in this
 regard.  SL also claims a secondary goal of making site customization
 easy - perhaps Centos as we know it could simply be one of those
 customizations and going forward other variations would be easy.  If the
 people doing the work aren't getting any value out of the brand name, I
 don't see the point of fragmenting the user community for what is
 essentially the same thing.
 I was expecting it to be the other way around.  With Centos the base and 
 SL a site(or something like it). In RHEL 6 I expect the distro rebuild 
 tools to make sites easier.  This 
 comment is based on the distro rebuild tools in Fedora.  We built a custom 
 Fedora 10 to test this idea.  These are pungi, revisor and the iso image 
 tool(forgot its name).
 CentOS and Scientific Linux together would be like dream come true.
 
 My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely 
 minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there 
 would be a way that anyone could 'publish' their installed list of 
 repositories and packages and anyone else could duplicate that machine's 
 setup just by picking that list from a set of choices with the installer 
 dealing with the hardware differences for you.  This would eliminate 
 most of the need for custom rebuilds and respins - at least for anyone 
 with network access, and in my opinion the optimal combination of many 
 thousands of packages is something that deserves to be be crowdsourced. 
   But, so far no one has done it and whenever the discussion of modified 
 CentOS respins comes up the developers have seemed pretty lukewarm to 
 the idea, as though it would devalue their brand.
 
Hi

The idea of a minimal installation is interesting. Could this be done 
with a kickstart or a installation CD? Then you download/customize with
yum groupinstall something.

I think I didn't understand it would devalue their brand. How could do 
it if you reaching a wider public, working with more people with (more 
or less) same goal? I would say more than less. To me, as user, 
seems that you will your brand more appealing.

Besides, it seems, from the comment about the Fedora 10 tools, that the 
customization could be easier in RHEL 6.

Regards

mg.


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[CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Boris Epstein
Hi all,

It appears that on my nice little CentOS 5.3 machines Apache only
allows me to store content in directories which are under /var/www/

For instance, putting content in /var/www/test and defining the following alias:

Alias /test /var/www/test

then accessing it under http://hostname/test works great.

Not copy that same content to /home/test, change the alias to:

Alias /test /home/test

and you get Error 403.

Any idea why that would be?

Never had this sort of trouble anywhere, including under CentOS 5.0 and 5.1

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Boris.
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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:17, Boris Epsteinborepst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any idea why that would be?

It's SELinux. Files exported by Apache must have context
httpd_sys_content_t. You can use ls -Z to see the context of a
certain file. You can use chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t /home/test to
change the context of all the files in the /home/test directory,
however that will not apply to new files created under that directory,
in which case you have to add new rules using semanage fcontext (see
the examples man semanage for help on how to do that).

In general I would advise you to try to adapt your application so that
the files that need to be seen by Apache are under /var/www, if you
have that flexibility it will be simpler and have less chance of
breaking in the future.

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, July 31, 2009 1:24 PM -0400 Filipe Brandenburger 
filbran...@gmail.com wrote:

 In general I would advise you to try to adapt your application so that
 the files that need to be seen by Apache are under /var/www, if you
 have that flexibility it will be simpler and have less chance of
 breaking in the future.

IIRC, there's a policy and boolean to allow users to have web content in 
~/public_html.

If one has stuff in other locations (say, /usr/share/someapp/webcontent or 
/opt/someapp/webcontent), one could use a loopback mount to attach it to a 
subdirectory of /var/www.

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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Boris Epstein
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Filipe Brandenburger
filbran...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:17, Boris Epsteinborepst...@gmail.com wrote:
  Any idea why that would be?

 It's SELinux. Files exported by Apache must have context
 httpd_sys_content_t. You can use ls -Z to see the context of a
 certain file. You can use chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t /home/test to
 change the context of all the files in the /home/test directory,
 however that will not apply to new files created under that directory,
 in which case you have to add new rules using semanage fcontext (see
 the examples man semanage for help on how to do that).

 In general I would advise you to try to adapt your application so that
 the files that need to be seen by Apache are under /var/www, if you
 have that flexibility it will be simpler and have less chance of
 breaking in the future.

 HTH,
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I found an even simplier solution - disabled SELinux. I've got a
firewall and that is plenty.

Thanks a lot, Filipe!
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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Jim Perrin
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Boris Epsteinborepst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found an even simplier solution - disabled SELinux. I've got a
 firewall and that is plenty.

No. It's really not. If someone exploits apache, or php, they'll be
coming in via port 80 or 443 which your firewall has helpfully allowed
so that you can run your server. The vast majority of successful
penetrations I've seen are of two types. Brute ssh attacks, and
apache/php exloits.   If you were running mod_security, that might be
slightly more analogous to selinux. I really don't recommend that
people disable selinux simply because they can't be bothered to learn
it.

Real world reasons for selinux on web servers -
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9176


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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Boris Epstein
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Jim Perrinjper...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Boris Epsteinborepst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found an even simplier solution - disabled SELinux. I've got a
 firewall and that is plenty.

 No. It's really not. If someone exploits apache, or php, they'll be
 coming in via port 80 or 443 which your firewall has helpfully allowed
 so that you can run your server. The vast majority of successful
 penetrations I've seen are of two types. Brute ssh attacks, and
 apache/php exloits.   If you were running mod_security, that might be
 slightly more analogous to selinux. I really don't recommend that
 people disable selinux simply because they can't be bothered to learn
 it.

 Real world reasons for selinux on web servers -
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9176


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I am running mod_security and also if the intruder gets to the shell
level they will be able to bypass the SELinux entirely. I believe in
security too but security should not be crippling.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos convert to rhel and support

2009-07-31 Thread Geoff Galitz



 
 tell said managers to open the coffers and pay for support if they are
 that worried

Maybe they would, but there is no content on the Centos wiki on the 
commercial support page.  Considering the allegations of mishandling
of funds, I doubt any organization would donate directly Centos
at this time.

I'm not trying to be a pest about that commercial support page, but
it is frustrating.  I know the team said they would bring it up at the
next dev meeting, but I have no idea when that is/was and what may
have happened.



-geoff


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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread jacob
sounds like current default apache security
 
near the begining you of httpd.conf you will find 
 
Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
/Directory

Directory /var/www/html
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

 
This effectively blocks you from sharing any directory (even aliased ones) 
unless the actual directory (no symlinks or aliases) is under /var/www. 
 
to add in exceptions put this under your alias statement.
 

Alias /test /home/test
Directory /home/test
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
 
 



From: centos-boun...@centos.org on behalf of Boris Epstein
Sent: Fri 7/31/2009 9:17 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www



Hi all,

It appears that on my nice little CentOS 5.3 machines Apache only
allows me to store content in directories which are under /var/www/

For instance, putting content in /var/www/test and defining the following alias:

Alias /test /var/www/test

then accessing it under http://hostname/test works great.

Not copy that same content to /home/test, change the alias to:

Alias /test /home/test

and you get Error 403.

Any idea why that would be?

Never had this sort of trouble anywhere, including under CentOS 5.0 and 5.1

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Boris.
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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, July 31, 2009 2:07 PM -0400 Boris Epstein 
borepst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am running mod_security and also if the intruder gets to the shell
 level they will be able to bypass the SELinux entirely.

How? The selinux commands require root access. First you'd have to get a 
root escalation exploit to promote from user apache to root, and then 
disable selinux. The exploit in the linked article is stopped because it 
can't run the escalation program which was downloaded to /tmp.

 I believe in security too but security should not be crippling.

Do you also disable iptables, because a firewall is too complicated to 
configure just to run an IP service?

SELinux is just another kind of firewall, but one between 
user/process/resource triplets. As with a good network firewall, it denies 
all by default and one selectively allows the triplets that make sense for 
one's application.
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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Jim Perrin
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Boris Epsteinborepst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am running mod_security and also if the intruder gets to the shell
 level they will be able to bypass the SELinux entirely. I believe in
 security too but security should not be crippling.

Agreed, however your statement is contradictory. A person not versed
in iptables would find the default firewall crippling when attempting
to run apache. By your logic, they should disable the firewall?


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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:36:51 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
[] 
 My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely
 minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there
 would be a way that anyone could 'publish' their installed list of
 repositories and packages and anyone else could duplicate that machine's
 setup just by picking that list from a set of choices with the installer
 dealing with the hardware differences for you.  This would eliminate
 most of the need for custom rebuilds and respins - at least for anyone
 with network access, and in my opinion the optimal combination of many
 thousands of packages is something that deserves to be be crowdsourced.

   But, so far no one has done it and whenever the discussion of modified
 CentOS respins comes up the developers have seemed pretty lukewarm to
 the idea, as though it would devalue their brand.

Such an OS, or release of an OS, would be mighty welcome to those 
of us with early notebooks/netbooks/whatever (such as the EeePC 701). 

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.


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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread P Marvin Eberly
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 06:59 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 21:15 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
  Akemi Yagi wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Jim Perrinjper...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Johnny Hughesjoh...@centos.org wrote:
   
   Why ... we are under no obligation to tell people how how we spend
   monies.  There are costs that are incurred for any organization.  We are
   probably going to disclose how monies are spent in the future because we
   choose to.  If you run a private organization, must you tell me how you
   spend your money?  You get an OS and can chose to donate monies or not.
   We're not under any obligation to tell people how the money gets
   spent, but doing so certainly goes a long way building good will. In
   my opinion, a simple 'We got X monies in donations which were used to
   purchase dedicated hosting, bandwidth, and various novelties for booth
   and show kit' once in a while would do worlds of good for showing
   people how we use the money they choose to give us.
  
   I don't have any legal obligation to help old ladies cross the street,
   or rescue cats from trees. It's what you do because you're a good
   person. Doing this in a community sense is what makes you a good
   neighbor, and what helps build community reputation.
   
   I have to agree with Jim here.  It is not legal obligation or
   anything. IF I am running a project and ask the community for help and
   I receive donations (monetary or in the form of thousands of donated
   hours), I would feel obliged to return back to the community.  And in
   doing so, I would want to disclose everything.  Once again, this is
   not due to any legal requirements but because I would feel the project
   is no longer my private toy and I owe the community.
   
   We are hiding nothing ... why exactly does CentOS need to provide that
   information to you?
   
   Thinking that this is entirely an internal manner is a bit
   short-sighted. Keeping all the problems internal doesn't solve them.
   Not to speak for Dag, but judging by his blog reaction to the news,
   the finance issue and lack of openness is part of what drove his
   departure. If we move to adopt a slightly more open approach and
   include more community efforts, I believe that we'll see a great deal
   of good from it.
  
   It's not that we OWE the community anything. It's that we should do it
   because it's how we want to be treated, and how we SHOULD deal with
   them while we participate in the project.
   
   I mostly agree with Jim.  As I wrote above, if this was my project, I
   would feel I *owe* the community.  But that is strictly my personal
   feelings.  I cannot imagine how I can ever pay back if those who
   donated their time ask for refund. :)
  
  Actually, I agree with Jim too :)
  
  We will likely do all or most of these things because we want to do so,
  but not because we have too.
  
  My point was that we wanted to give someone the benefit of the doubt
  because we were trying to do right by him too ... now we (as a group)
  think we need to do something differently, and we will.  Regardless of
  what else we do, we still have to acknowledge that without Lance, there
  would have been no CentOS at all ... and because of that we probably
  waited to long to push this issue.  However, we did it because of good
  intentions and hopes of someone doing the right thing, not to hide
  anything.
 
 totally agree and just want to add one more thing...I am very happy to
 see Johnny posting to this list. It has been a long time and I hope you
 are well.
 
 Craig
 
 
  +1


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Re: [CentOS] Centos convert to rhel?

2009-07-31 Thread Ingemar Nilsson
Tom Brown wrote:

 tell said managers to open the coffers and pay for support if they are 
 that worried

Well, it hasn't happened to me (yet). I just thought that it might be 
why some people seem to be somewhat worried.

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Marcus Moeller
Hi,

 My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely
 minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there
 would be a way that anyone could 'publish' their installed list of
 repositories and packages and anyone else could duplicate that machine's
 setup just by picking that list from a set of choices with the installer
 dealing with the hardware differences for you.  This would eliminate
 most of the need for custom rebuilds and respins - at least for anyone
 with network access, and in my opinion the optimal combination of many
 thousands of packages is something that deserves to be be crowdsourced.

   But, so far no one has done it and whenever the discussion of modified
 CentOS respins comes up the developers have seemed pretty lukewarm to
 the idea, as though it would devalue their brand.

        Such an OS, or release of an OS, would be mighty welcome to those
 of us with early notebooks/netbooks/whatever (such as the EeePC 701).

Re-Spins are yet possible. You can take a look at the LiveCD project:

https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/

to learn how to spin a custom CentOS LiveCD.

But please note: CentOS itself has a clear strategy which means
upstream compatibility. Nothing more and nothing less. No focus on
specialized systems (which does not mean you can create a custom spin
for an specific purpose, e.g. a CentOS netbook spin)

IMHO CentOS is not the best choice for latest consumer hardware nor
the best desktop OS (please don't blame me for that Dag ;)

Fedora already offers a lot of spins for different (end)use(r) cases.

Best Regards
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Marcus Moellerm...@marcus-moeller.de wrote:

 But please note: CentOS itself has a clear strategy which means
 upstream compatibility. Nothing more and nothing less. No focus on
 specialized systems (which does not mean you can create a custom spin
 for an specific purpose, e.g. a CentOS netbook spin)

This is one of the reasons I chose CentOS -- specifically because it
is a Red Hat rebuild with upstream compatibility. Although, in my
opinion, CentOS stands on its own -- I figured it was a plus that
while I was learning CentOS I was also learning Red Hat. I first found
CentOS via Trixbox and asterisk (I'm a Nortel phone tech with interest
in asterisk). As it turns out a career change may be forced on me --
so I'm now studying to take the Red Hat Technician (or Engineering)
certification exams to augment my resume. It has been a huge head
start to have been using Red Hat for the past year and a half.

So, I guess, this is just a vote for keeping CentOS as is. Although
I think community rebuild projects would be cool also.

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Re: [CentOS] Apache not liking directories outside of /var/www

2009-07-31 Thread Ned Slider
Boris Epstein wrote:
 
 I found an even simplier solution - disabled SELinux. I've got a
 firewall and that is plenty.
 

Wow, not sure I'd place all my faith in a firewall.

There is an SELinux tutorial on the Wiki that explicitly covers how to 
handle Apache serving content outside of DocumentRoot:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SELinux

Anyway, it's only one command to fix the issue - not exactly daunting.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread sam R
Are you talking about this one:

http://ftp.itu.edu.tr/Mirror/CentOS/5.3/isos/i386/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote:

  At Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:14 +0300 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 wrote:

 
 
 
  I have very basic question:
 
  I have downloaded *CentOS-5.3-i386-LiveCD* from CentOS website. Now I
 need
  to install it on my Acer Laptop permanently not as a liveCD. How do I
 burn
  it to a DVD to be able to install it by simply restarting my laptop?

 The CentOS Live CD are not 'install' CDs -- they don't include the
 installer or the RPMs.  You should download the CentOS install DVD and
 burn that.

 
  Thank you,
 
  Sam
 
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Ned Slider
Beartooth wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:36:51 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
   [] 
 My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely
 minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there
 would be a way that anyone could 'publish' their installed list of
 repositories and packages and anyone else could duplicate that machine's
 setup just by picking that list from a set of choices with the installer
 dealing with the hardware differences for you.  This would eliminate
 most of the need for custom rebuilds and respins - at least for anyone
 with network access, and in my opinion the optimal combination of many
 thousands of packages is something that deserves to be be crowdsourced.
 
   But, so far no one has done it and whenever the discussion of modified
 CentOS respins comes up the developers have seemed pretty lukewarm to
 the idea, as though it would devalue their brand.
 
   Such an OS, or release of an OS, would be mighty welcome to those 
 of us with early notebooks/netbooks/whatever (such as the EeePC 701). 
 

A minimal install CD was discussed a while back, but it never got past 
the discussion stage...

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2008-November/003639.html

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Ned Slider
Marcus Moeller wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely
 minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there
 would be a way that anyone could 'publish' their installed list of
 repositories and packages and anyone else could duplicate that machine's
 setup just by picking that list from a set of choices with the installer
 dealing with the hardware differences for you.  This would eliminate
 most of the need for custom rebuilds and respins - at least for anyone
 with network access, and in my opinion the optimal combination of many
 thousands of packages is something that deserves to be be crowdsourced.
   But, so far no one has done it and whenever the discussion of modified
 CentOS respins comes up the developers have seemed pretty lukewarm to
 the idea, as though it would devalue their brand.
Such an OS, or release of an OS, would be mighty welcome to those
 of us with early notebooks/netbooks/whatever (such as the EeePC 701).
 
 Re-Spins are yet possible. You can take a look at the LiveCD project:
 
 https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/
 
 to learn how to spin a custom CentOS LiveCD.
 

Sounds like all you folks need to get together, start a CentOS minimal 
install CD SIG and get on with it :)

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Les Mikesell
Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
 
 My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely 
 minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there 
 would be a way that anyone could 'publish' their installed list of 
 repositories and packages and anyone else could duplicate that machine's 
 setup just by picking that list from a set of choices with the installer 
 dealing with the hardware differences for you.  This would eliminate 
 most of the need for custom rebuilds and respins - at least for anyone 
 with network access, and in my opinion the optimal combination of many 
 thousands of packages is something that deserves to be be crowdsourced. 
   But, so far no one has done it and whenever the discussion of modified 
 CentOS respins comes up the developers have seemed pretty lukewarm to 
 the idea, as though it would devalue their brand.

 Hi
 
 The idea of a minimal installation is interesting. Could this be done 
 with a kickstart or a installation CD? Then you download/customize with
 yum groupinstall something.

Sure - anything that gets you to the point of being able to run yum with 
disk and network access.  But there is a little more to what I want than 
a yum groupinstall can currently handle.  I'd like anyone with a 
configuration that they think is worth duplicating/sharing to be able to 
upload both their repository configuration and their installed package 
list to either a public or local server where that configuration would 
be saved with a unique ID, description, and author listing (and perhaps 
allow for user rating/comments).  Then anyone else should be able to 
give some command to update to match any of the ID's they want.  There 
are probably some hardware-related packages that would need special 
consideration in this scheme, but the worst part is that different 
repositories exist with different but same-named packages  and yum can't 
even keep this straight when updating the original machine much less 
reproduce it on another one.

 I think I didn't understand it would devalue their brand. How could do 
 it if you reaching a wider public, working with more people with (more 
 or less) same goal? I would say more than less. To me, as user, 
 seems that you will your brand more appealing.

The discussion was not about the scheme I'm describing, but generally in 
the context of either making a distro that wouldn't be called CentOS or 
one that had the Centos branding but modified content.  If I recall 
correctly, the former was grudgingly permitted but no help or advice 
offered, and latter was not permitted or at least highly discouraged 
unless it was a strict superset of the stock distro so problems related 
to the modifications don't affect CentOS's reputation.  Personally I've 
always preferred to install from the k12ltsp respin which is a fairly 
strict superset with a lot of useful additions.  However, it's not clear 
where that project is headed with the incorporation of part of its 
content into fedora packaging (but probably not others like the 
push-button commands to get flash, Sun java, realplayer, MS fonts,etc.).

 Besides, it seems, from the comment about the Fedora 10 tools, that the 
 customization could be easier in RHEL 6.

Yes, that will be a possibility, but building a million iso images that 
are out of date the next day and still won't have the exact setup you 
want just seems like the wrong approach.  What we need is one thing that 
handles hardware differences (and might also fix things up if you move a 
disk from one machine to another or restore a backup on a new machine) 
and another thing that can save and re-install lists of packages 
repeatably even if the repositories won't cooperate with their package 
names.  The rest would happen by itself as people came up with 
interesting combinations of packages tuned to different purposes and 
optimized for different types of hardware.

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[CentOS] Upgrade fm 4.7 to 5.3: mptscsi module?

2009-07-31 Thread Curt Mills

First issue:  I did an upgrade from 4.7 to 5.3 on an HP DL380G3 box.
I got yum working again and upgraded 160+ packages.  During that
process I saw:

---
   Installing : kernel-PAE[157/322]
WARNING: No module mptscsi found for kernel 2.6.18-128.2.1.el5PAE, continuing 
anyway
   Installing : kernel[158/322]
WARNING: No module mptscsi found for kernel 2.6.18-128.2.1.el5, continuing 
anyway
---

Since I'm running with SCSI drives on that box and lsmod shows me
this:

---
# ./lsmod | grep mpt
mptctl 31301  1 
mptsas 37193  0 
scsi_transport_sas 30529  1 mptsas
mptspi 23625  0 
scsi_transport_spi 26305  1 mptspi
mptfc  21829  0 
mptscsih   36929  3 mptsas,mptspi,mptfc
scsi_transport_fc  37449  1 mptfc
mptbase76901  5 mptctl,mptsas,mptspi,mptfc,mptscsih
scsi_mod  141589  17
mptctl,ib_iser,iscsi_tcp,libiscsi,scsi_transport_iscsi,scsi_dh,st,sg,mptsas,scsi_transport_sas,mptspi,scsi_transport_spi,mptfc,mptscsih,scsi_transport_fc,cciss,sd_mod
---

I'm a bit worried about rebooting the system.  Should I be?  Did
some other driver take over the responsibilities of the mptscsi
driver?


Second issue:  I also had to remove some repositories from yum, do a
yum clean all, and still manually remove a few more packages before yup
update would work.  There are still quite a few el4 packages left
on the system even now.  History:

# history
  1006  yum update;date
  1007  yum clean all
  1008  yum update;date
  1009  yum remove freetype-utils cyrus-imapd-murder cyrus-imapd-nntp
  1010  yum update;date
  1011  yum remove seamonkey
  1012  yum update;date
  1013  rpm -qa | grep -i el4

Some of the el4 packages that are left are probably one's that I
installed by hand outside the yum repository scheme, but certainly
not all of them are.  I expected the upgrade off DVD and then the
yum update to take care of most of those.

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[CentOS] how to disable scim

2009-07-31 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr
Hello:

I keep getting these

  An IOException occurred at 
scim_bridge_client_imcontext_set_cursor_location ()

messages -- and I'd like to turn them off.  I won't mind having scim 
just plain turned off.
However, in using Google, I find a hint such as right click on the 
tray, ... -- so where's
the tray?  A second part of that hint suggested using 
System:Administration:Language
Support -- there's a Language (which allows me to select my default 
language) but
nothing about scim.

So, any hints about how to nuke scim?

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:45 PM, James B. Byrnebyrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote:

 However, having been bitten once, I feel that I must ask this more
 formal question.  What steps, if any, have been taken to establish
 the CentOS project as a separate legal entity distinct from any
 individual contributor? What protections are being put in place to
 prevent future misappropriations of donations and advertising
 revenue, even if it turns out that no such thing has as yet
 happened?

Okay, I'm a mere CentOS desktop user (at this point) but I'm curious
as to how *you've* been bitten here? While it's true that your
donation money apparently did not go to the project as  intended, it's
also true that you've still received a solid and continuously updated
OS (as paid for). So, even though it is regretful that the ability of
the CentOS project to promote its distribution has been hampered -- I
can't see where you've, personally, suffered any damage.

It seems to me the ones bitten here, are those who have donated so
much of their own time developing and maintaining CentOS. But despite
the handicap this situation has imposed on them, they are still
providing a great distribution.

I do agree that, going forward, everything will become more
transparent -- but I think that's the general goal and the reason
for the open letter in the first place.

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Re: [CentOS] kvm in Centos 5.3

2009-07-31 Thread Farkas Levente
On 07/30/2009 08:45 PM, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 18:56 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
 see around (it's there since 06.28):
 http://www.lfarkas.org/linux/packages/centos/5/x86_64/virt/RPMS/libvirt-0.6.4-2.el5.x86_64.rpm

 FYI: when I try to install libvirt from your repo, libvirt in the CentOS
 base and updates repos keep replacing it, even though I've excluded the
 package.  I've tried cleaning the yum cache and a few other trouble
 shooting steps, all to no avail.

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread William L. Maltby

On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 15:01 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 snip

  
  The idea of a minimal installation is interesting. Could this be done 
snip
Les Mikesell
  lesmikes...@gmail.com

In spite of the fact that all thse ideas for what the new CentOS org
could or would do, they really don't belong cluttering a thread of
serious import about the organization/personnel issues.

Many who've added to this clutter have, in the past, complained about
others hi-jacking a thread. Although I understand how these things
mutate, if we really want a good discussion to appear in the archives,
these suggestions should be in their own thread. Maybe eventually as an
open item in a (future) bugzilla.

I would rather be reading and possibly contributing some thoughts about
the issue the thread was intended to address. It's an important topic
for the missing person, the currently active project member and the
community as a whole. Let's see if we can, from here forward, do the
impossible - stay on topic.

In good cheer and
MHO
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:56 AM, sam Rsamca...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have very basic question:
 I have downloaded CentOS-5.3-i386-LiveCD from CentOS website. Now I need to
 install it on my Acer Laptop permanently not as a liveCD. How do I burn it
 to a DVD to be able to install it by simply restarting my laptop?

I suggest you go ahead and burn the LiveCD image you downloaded to a
CD and see if this OS will run, properly, on your HW, before you
install it. If so, then download the CD's or DVD for a regular
install. Hang onto the LiveCD, in case you need to test on other HW,
in case you have a problem and need to rescue, or if go out of town
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread Jake Shipton

On 31/07/09 22:01, Lanny Marcus wrote:

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:56 AM, sam Rsamca...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

I have very basic question:
I have downloaded CentOS-5.3-i386-LiveCD from CentOS website. Now I need to
install it on my Acer Laptop permanently not as a liveCD. How do I burn it
to a DVD to be able to install it by simply restarting my laptop?
 

I suggest you go ahead and burn the LiveCD image you downloaded to a
CD and see if this OS will run, properly, on your HW, before you
install it. If so, then download the CD's or DVD for a regular
install. Hang onto the LiveCD, in case you need to test on other HW,
in case you have a problem and need to rescue, or if go out of town
and want to run on someone elses HW without leaving tracks.

   
May also want to consider using the netinstall images if you have a 
constant network
connection during install. Saves downloading a whole DVD or a bunch of 
CD's ;-)


Although do try the LiveCD as stated above.

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Kai Schaetzl
James B. Byrne wrote on Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:45:21 -0400 (EDT):

 However, having been bitten once, I feel that I must ask this more
 formal question.  What steps, if any, have been taken to establish
 the CentOS project as a separate legal entity distinct from any
 individual contributor? What protections are being put in place to
 prevent future misappropriations of donations and advertising
 revenue, even if it turns out that no such thing has as yet
 happened?

I think these are fair questions, but a bit premature. Give the team time 
to settle this, uhm, let's call it, mess. I'm sure once this matter is 
resolved the team will also give more information about the new structure 
and funding etc. Patience, folks! One thing at a time!

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Lanny Marcus
 Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Craig Whitecraigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
snip
t totally agree and just want to add one more thing...I am very happy to
 see Johnny posting to this list. It has been a long time and I hope you
 are well.
+1  :-) I was planning to begin a new thread, welcome
back Johnny! until I read  Craigs words here. I do not want to hijack
this thread, but WELCOME BACK JOHNNY!
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Les Mikesell
William L. Maltby wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 15:01 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 snip
 
 The idea of a minimal installation is interesting. Could this be done 
 snip

 
 In spite of the fact that all thse ideas for what the new CentOS org
 could or would do, they really don't belong cluttering a thread of
 serious import about the organization/personnel issues.

That's somewhat a difference of opinion.  As much as I appreciate the 
past stability of CentOS, I see moving to Scientific Linux as a 
perfectly reasonable thing to do, with more than a little connection to 
this topic.  And merging the projects seems even more reasonable, from 
an outside point of view.

 Many who've added to this clutter have, in the past, complained about
 others hi-jacking a thread. Although I understand how these things
 mutate, if we really want a good discussion to appear in the archives,
 these suggestions should be in their own thread. Maybe eventually as an
 open item in a (future) bugzilla.
 
 I would rather be reading and possibly contributing some thoughts about
 the issue the thread was intended to address. It's an important topic
 for the missing person, the currently active project member and the
 community as a whole. Let's see if we can, from here forward, do the
 impossible - stay on topic.

It's a bigger issue than dealing with a missing person.  While I have no 
complaints about the product and highly respect the developers for their 
competence and dedication, the project doesn't have the kind of 
transparency and community involvement that gives you faith that it can 
survive more than a few personnel problems. I'm already hearing 
rumblings about risks from others in the company who don't know much 
about the situation but know we are using Centos and saw a news posting 
somewhere - and I suspect that is happening in every large company.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Jake Shiptonjak...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 May also want to consider using the netinstall images if you have a
 constant network connection during install. Saves downloading a whole
 DVD or a bunch of CD's
 ;-)

 Although do try the LiveCD as stated above.

Netinstall is about the only way I install CentOS now. The last time I
misplaced my netinstall CD, so I used the utility from the LiveCD.
Just be sure to find your repository source *before* starting the
install -- unless you have another computer connected to the Internet.

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/31/2009 08:56 PM, Ned Slider wrote:
 Sounds like all you folks need to get together, start a CentOS minimal
 install CD SIG and get on with it :)

or a shared editor, and write a kickstart :)

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Re: [CentOS] how to disable scim

2009-07-31 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 16:17 -0400, Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
 Hello:
 
 I keep getting these
 
   An IOException occurred at 
 scim_bridge_client_imcontext_set_cursor_location ()
 
 messages -- and I'd like to turn them off.  I won't mind having scim 
 just plain turned off.
 However, in using Google, I find a hint such as right click on the 
 tray, ... -- so where's
 the tray?  A second part of that hint suggested using 
 System:Administration:Language
 Support -- there's a Language (which allows me to select my default 
 language) but
 nothing about scim.
 
 So, any hints about how to nuke scim?

I haven't played with scim on CentOS but on Fedora, it seems that
creating a symbolic link in users home directory...

ls -l ~/.xinputrc
.xinputrc - /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim.conf

is what launches scim at user login

so you might want to look for something like that.

Craig


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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Drew
 I'm already hearing
 rumblings about risks from others in the company who don't know much
 about the situation but know we are using Centos and saw a news posting
 somewhere - and I suspect that is happening in every large company.

No doubt. And if the people who mange the CentOS servers in their
organization are doing their job, the people who pay the cheques are
being made aware of the situation, what the organization's options
are, and what costs are associated with each option.

Among those options, and this is our organization's fall back, is to
pay for a subscription to access the upstream vendor's support system
for package updates.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on Acer Laptop

2009-07-31 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:49:46 +0300 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 
 
 Are you talking about this one:
 
 http://ftp.itu.edu.tr/Mirror/CentOS/5.3/isos/i386/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso

Yes, this is the install DVD image.

 
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote:
 
   At Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:14 +0300 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
  wrote:
 
  
  
  
   I have very basic question:
  
   I have downloaded *CentOS-5.3-i386-LiveCD* from CentOS website. Now I
  need
   to install it on my Acer Laptop permanently not as a liveCD. How do I
  burn
   it to a DVD to be able to install it by simply restarting my laptop?
 
  The CentOS Live CD are not 'install' CDs -- they don't include the
  installer or the RPMs.  You should download the CentOS install DVD and
  burn that.
 
  
   Thank you,
  
   Sam
  
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Re: [CentOS] Weird permission

2009-07-31 Thread muhammad panji
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Mike A. Harrismhar...@mharris.ca wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 muhammad panji wrote:
 Dear all,
 I got weird permission on one of my server, when I ls -l the / i got
 permission for all directory set to drwxr-xr-x. there are dot after
 the executable permission for others. what dot mean in permission and
 how to fix it? the actual problem is I could login via ssh but cannot
 login via winscp. any idea how to fix this? thanks in advance
 best regards,

 IIRC, the . at the end of the permissions indicates that the file has
 additional permission controls beyond the standard DAC bits, such as
 filesystem ACLs, filesystem capabilities, or other attributes.

 Filesystem capabilities support is not present in CentOS 5, so are you
 using ACLs?  What does the following show:

 getfacl --tabular /*
AFAIK by default on centos partition mounted with acl option but I
haven't set anything related to ACL

the output of getfacl --tabular /*
# file: bin
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: boot
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: dev
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: etc
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: home
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: lib
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: lost+found
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  ---
other---

# file: media
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: mnt
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: opt
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: proc
USER   root  r-x
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: root
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: sbin
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: selinux
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: srv
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: sys
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: tmp
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  rwx
otherrwx

# file: usr
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

# file: var
USER   root  rwx
GROUP  root  r-x
otherr-x

seems normal to me :) more clues please
regards,


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Re: [CentOS] Weird permission

2009-07-31 Thread muhammad panji
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Kai Schaetzlmailli...@conactive.com wrote:
 Muhammad panji wrote on Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:48:29 +0700:

 I got weird permission on one of my server, when I ls -l the / i got
 permission for all directory set to drwxr-xr-x. there are dot after
 the executable permission for others. what dot mean in permission and
 how to fix it?

 I have never seen or heard of this. I would assume that is a formatting
 glitch produced by some shell login setting. It might help if you showed
 the whole output.


 the actual problem is I could login via ssh but cannot
 login via winscp

 Change the default WinSCP login from SFTP to SCP.
I always use SCP because I got better experience with it rather than SFTP

the output of root home :

[r...@clarisa ~]# ls -lha
total 52K
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 4.0K 2009-08-01 02:38 .
drwxr-xr-x. 23 root root 4.0K 2009-07-31 15:47 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4.0K 2009-07-31 15:06 backup
-rw---.  1 root root  14K 2009-08-01 08:34 .bash_history
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root   18 2009-03-30 18:51 .bash_logout
-rw-r--r--.  1 root root  176 2009-03-30 18:51 .bash_profile
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  587 2009-07-20 14:34 .bashrc
-rw---   1 root root   43 2009-07-31 15:20 .lesshst
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4.0K 2009-07-31 15:38 .uml
there are dot on .. (parent dir), and several files on root's home dir
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread David McGuffey
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 13:55 -0500, Ron Blizzard wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Marcus Moellerm...@marcus-moeller.de wrote:
 
  But please note: CentOS itself has a clear strategy which means
  upstream compatibility. Nothing more and nothing less. No focus on
  specialized systems (which does not mean you can create a custom spin
  for an specific purpose, e.g. a CentOS netbook spin)
 
 This is one of the reasons I chose CentOS -- specifically because it
 is a Red Hat rebuild with upstream compatibility. Although, in my
 opinion, CentOS stands on its own -- I figured it was a plus that
 while I was learning CentOS I was also learning Red Hat. I first found
 CentOS via Trixbox and asterisk (I'm a Nortel phone tech with interest
 in asterisk). As it turns out a career change may be forced on me --
 so I'm now studying to take the Red Hat Technician (or Engineering)
 certification exams to augment my resume. It has been a huge head
 start to have been using Red Hat for the past year and a half.
 
 So, I guess, this is just a vote for keeping CentOS as is. Although
 I think community rebuild projects would be cool also.
 
Agree.  

My customers buy RHEL by the thousands of copies.  I use CentOS so that
I stay on top of what my customers are experiencing, to test the
integration of security tools, and to test various levels of hardening
guidance.  RH, whether or not they know it, has a lot to gain by ensuing
that CentOS continues.

Dave


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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread David McGuffey
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 20:56 +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
 Marcus Moeller wrote:
  Hi,
  
  My 'dream' OS has always been one where the base install was extremely
  minimal - just enough to install the rest over the network.  Then there
...
 
 Sounds like all you folks need to get together, start a CentOS minimal 
 install CD SIG and get on with it :)
 
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That would certainly simplify my challenge in building hardened
baseline loads from which to build other specialized servers.

Dave


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[CentOS] things weirdly different in new installation

2009-07-31 Thread fred smith

I've just built a new system and installed latest Centos 5.3 on it. My old
box also has an up to date Centos 5 on it.

Some things are just plain different between the two installations, and
it's stumping me why that would be. Example:

on the old box, the shutdown dialog offers restart, cancel, shutdown,
and also standby and hibernate. and the standby and hibernate options
work, too.

The new box, it only offers restart, cancel, or shutdown.

Oddly, the main System dropdown offers suspend as well as logoff
and shutdown submenus.

Since it's a desktop, I won't often want to suspend or hibernate, but
it may occasionally be nice to have the option to hibernate (e.g.,
power is off, UPS is about dead, hibernate could save my work.)

Ideas, anyone?

Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/31/2009 08:45 PM, James B. Byrne wrote:
 What steps, if any, have been taken to establish
 the CentOS project as a separate legal entity distinct from any
 individual contributor? What protections are being put in place to
 prevent future misappropriations of donations and advertising
 revenue, even if it turns out that no such thing has as yet
 happened?

We will be addressing these issues in the next few weeks, the plan at 
this time is to not turn on the donations option or advertising anywhere 
on the websites till we have such process's in place.

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-31 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/30/2009 06:34 AM, R P Herrold wrote:
 This is an Open Letter to Lance Davis from fellow CentOS Developers

People looking for info about this and recent progress will find 
relevant info being updated on http://www.centos.org/ as things develop.

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