Re: [CentOS-es] Sendmail y Centos

2010-12-17 Thread Ricardo Martinez
Como te comentan, lo más seguro es que estés ( tu ip ) en alguna lista
negra BlackList ( lista negra )

Estás son algunas:

- Spamcop (http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml)
- Spamhaus (http://www.spamhaus.org/lookup.lasso)
- Sender Base [sistema propio de Cisco Networks] (www.senderbase.org)

De todas formas igual tienes que ponerte en contacto con gmail etc
porque te han podido meter ellos en alguna lista suya propia.

Un saludo! y suerte!

2010/12/17 Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com:
 2010/12/16 Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com

 On 12/16/2010 01:38 PM, Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo wrote:
  Buen días compañeros, tengo un problema que debo resolver un poco
 urgentemente y es el
  siguiente :
  Tengo instalado centos 5.4 con sendmail como manejador de correos y lo
 que pasa es que
  los correos que envio a servidores del exterior como gmail, yahoo,
 hotmail, etc no llegan.
  Si alguien me puede dar la solucion se lo agradeceria enormenete es
 urgete ya que este
  servidor es de la universidad donde trabajo y estamos por salir de
 vacaciones y debo
  dejar esto organizado al respecto.
 qué ves en los logs ? sobre todo /var/log/maillog, mira al final y
 ayudate un poco indicándonos qué ves ahi respecto a los mails enviados a
 allá?

 saludos
 epe

 
  De antemano muchas gracias por su colaboracion.
 
  Saludos.
 
  
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  Administrador de Sistemas
  Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales
  Universidad de Antioquia
  e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co
              cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co
  Tel: ++57(4)2195604
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 Hola Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo,

 Podria ser que tu IP este bloqueada y marcada como salida de SPAM?, es solo
 una opcion de tantas. Como dijeron, es mejor que revises los registros
 haciendo un:  *tail /var/log/maillog *y pega los resultados para que podamos
 ayudarte.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas con MySQL

2010-12-17 Thread victor santana
Al final del log, te habla de que falta el archivo
/var/lib/mysql/mysql/host.frm; asegúrate de que está, que su propietario y
grupo sea mysql.mysql y sus permisos sean 660.

2010/12/16 Orlando Pantoja Jr orla...@mumella.uo.edu.cu

 Saludos amigos, mi MySQL dejo de trabajar por arte de magia, opte por
 desinstalarlo completamente y volver a montarlo, luego de lo cual al
 tratar de iniciarlo me pone lo sgte en los logs:

 101216 14:59:28  mysqld started
 101216 14:59:28 [Warning] option 'max_join_size': unsigned value
 18446744073709551615 adjusted to 4294967295
 InnoDB: Log scan progressed past the checkpoint lsn 0 36808
 101216 14:59:28  InnoDB: Database was not shut down normally!
 InnoDB: Starting crash recovery.
 InnoDB: Reading tablespace information from the .ibd files...
 InnoDB: Restoring possible half-written data pages from the doublewrite
 InnoDB: buffer...
 InnoDB: Doing recovery: scanned up to log sequence number 0 43655
 101216 14:59:28  InnoDB: Starting an apply batch of log records to the
 database...
 InnoDB: Progress in percents: 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42
 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66
 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90
 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99
 InnoDB: Apply batch completed
 101216 14:59:29  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43655
 101216 14:59:29 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file:
 './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)
 101216 14:59:29 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file:
 './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)
 101216 14:59:29 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege
 tables: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)
 101216 14:59:29  mysqld ended
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[CentOS-es] DUDA Instalar centos en una Particion NSF

2010-12-17 Thread Julio Cesar
 hola listas tengo una infraestructura de virtualizacion, lo cual tengo 
 varios server virtuales en centos, mi pregunta es quisiera poder 
 instalar estas pc virtuales dentro de una partición NFS esto seria 
 posible de hacerse

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Re: [CentOS-es] DUDA Instalar centos en una Particion NSF

2010-12-17 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
On 12/17/2010 08:05 AM, Julio Cesar wrote:
   hola listas tengo una infraestructura de virtualizacion, lo cual tengo
   varios server virtuales en centos, mi pregunta es quisiera poder
   instalar estas pc virtuales dentro de una partición NFS esto seria
   posible de hacerse

   gracias


sí podría hacerse césar, pero yo he visto que usando AoE es más 
confortable.. inténtale por AoE (en el repositorio de epel está el 
vblade que lo requerirás).

saludos
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[CentOS-es] MailScanner Centos

2010-12-17 Thread Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo
Hola companeros, les tengo otra preguntica, estoy tratando de instalar 
MailScanner en mi
centos y me saca el siguiente error:
./install.sh 


Good. You have the patch command.

Your /usr/src/redhat, /usr/src/RPM or /usr/src/packages
tree is missing.
If you have access to an RPM called rpm-build or rpmbuild
then install it first and come back and try again.

De antemanos les agradesco su colaboracion.



Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo
Administrador de Sistemas
Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales
Universidad de Antioquia
e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co
   cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co
Tel: ++57(4)2195604
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Re: [CentOS-es] MailScanner Centos

2010-12-17 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
On 12/17/2010 09:43 AM, Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo wrote:
 Hola companeros, les tengo otra preguntica, estoy tratando de instalar 
 MailScanner en mi
 centos y me saca el siguiente error:
 ./install.sh


 Good. You have the patch command.

 Your /usr/src/redhat, /usr/src/RPM or /usr/src/packages
 tree is missing.
 If you have access to an RPM called rpm-build or rpmbuild
 then install it first and come back and try again.
yum install rpm-build

cuando le ejecutes al install de nuevo, te dirá que faltan otros 
paquetes, le haces el mismo proceso de yum install xxx


 De antemanos les agradesco su colaboracion.


 
 Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo
 Administrador de Sistemas
 Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales
 Universidad de Antioquia
 e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co
 cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co
 Tel: ++57(4)2195604
 Medellin - Colombia
 

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Re: [CentOS-es] [Super OT] VCL (no confundir con VLC)

2010-12-17 Thread Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
mmm solo decir que no lo conocia, de verdad me interesa, creo que
tratare de averiguar mas... siento no poderayudarte pero tu me ayudates
ami


El mié, 15-12-2010 a las 13:47 -0600, Mauricio Cesar Ramirez Torres
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Re: [CentOS-es] Controlar acceso a Internet en una red

2010-12-17 Thread juanjo rokjan

 puedes implementar squid (acls) + dansguardian  y claro un buen
 Firewall
 (shorewall)

 Anthony: pareciera que probaste ya con esas herramientas, será que nos
puedes explicar como lo implementaste, especificamente me interesa esa
interaccion con ACL mas dansguardian.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Controlar acceso a Internet en una red

2010-12-17 Thread Anthony Mogrovejo
Juanjo,  que tal,
Claro, Squid como Proxy es uno de lo mejores, ya que con la creacion de ACLs
(las cuales puedes encontrar en su website de squid), puedes restringir por
direcciones mac, por grupos, integrarlo ante un Active Directory, etc.
Dansguardian tiene una aplicacion que correctamente configurada, reduce
mucho la labor del sysadmin en tema de bloqueos de webs que no deben ser
vistas por el end user.

En mi experiencia personal, lo he implementado en redes grandes de 200 -
400 usurios, con grupos, y hasta sige en produccion (es lo que sé, jejeje)

Sls


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  puedes implementar squid (acls) + dansguardian  y claro un buen
  Firewall
  (shorewall)
 
  Anthony: pareciera que probaste ya con esas herramientas, será que nos
 puedes explicar como lo implementaste, especificamente me interesa esa
 interaccion con ACL mas dansguardian.

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Re: [CentOS-es] [Super OT] VCL (no confundir con VLC)

2010-12-17 Thread Mauricio Cesar Ramirez Torres
https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/

On 17/12/10 00:16, Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez wrote:
 mmm solo decir que no lo conocia, de verdad me interesa, creo que
 tratare de averiguar mas... siento no poderayudarte pero tu me ayudates
 ami
 
 
 El mié, 15-12-2010 a las 13:47 -0600, Mauricio Cesar Ramirez Torres
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Re: [CentOS] Sendmail Replay problem

2010-12-17 Thread sync
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12/16/10 2:56 AM, sync wrote:
  Hi , guys :
 
 
  I have a problem about the sendmail replay . The following is my
 condition:
 
  I have installed the sendmail server on my laptop which installed  CentOS
 5.5
  x86 64,
  and I want to set up the sendmail replay.
 
 
  That is to say . If my linux account called test and his mail address is
  t...@test.com mailto:t...@test.com,
  when he get the new mail, then the server send the mail to the company
 mail
  server ,
the new mail address is t...@aa.com mailto:t...@aa.com

 I assume you mean relay instead of replay, but your example requires the
 address
 to be re-written so maybe you mean forwarding.  For known users you can
 manage
 this with aliases.


Thanks for all suggestions.




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Re: [CentOS] Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Sven Aluoor alu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
 the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
 Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.
snip
 please execute the wrapper /opt/picasa/bin/picasa in Terminal and send
 the output (errors).

Sven: I'm not sure if I did this properly. Am posting everything
below. Thank you for your time and help! Lanny

[la...@dell1602 picasa]$ ls
bin  desktop  GPLV2  LGPLV2  lib  LICENSE.FOSS  README  wine
[la...@dell1602 picasa]$ cd bin
[la...@dell1602 bin]$ ls
common.sh   mediadetector   setpicasascreensaver   xdg-utils-1.0.2
fontinstall.sh  picasa  showpicasascreensaver
icons   picasafontcfg   wrapper
killpicasa  repackage32.sh  xdg-user-dirs-0.8
[la...@dell1602 bin]$ picasa
/usr/bin/picasa: line 139:  3648 Segmentation fault
$PIC_BINDIR/wrapper check_dir.exe.so
/usr/bin/picasa: line 175:  3743 Segmentation fault
$PIC_BINDIR/wrapper regedit /E $registry_export
HKEY_USERS\\S-1-5-4\\Software\\Google\\Picasa\\Picasa2\\Preferences\\
[la...@dell1602 bin]$

if I try to execute wrapper for Picasa, I get a command not found:

[la...@dell1602 bin]$ wrapper
bash: wrapper: command not found
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Re: [CentOS] Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Dejan cen...@bektchiev.net wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:47, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
 the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
 Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.
 snip
 I had a similar issue with Picasa on my Fedora 14 laptop. The solution
 was to download the latest Picasa version for Windows and run it under
 Wine.

Dejan: Thank you for replying. I believe Google installs a small
version of Wine, with their Linux download. If I can't get this
version to work properly, I will look into installing the full version
of Wine and installing the latest Picasa version for Windows, as you
did. Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread B.J. McClure

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 06:02 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Dejan cen...@bektchiev.net wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:47, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
  the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
  Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.
  snip
  I had a similar issue with Picasa on my Fedora 14 laptop. The solution
  was to download the latest Picasa version for Windows and run it under
  Wine.

Fwiw, I am running Picasa 3 beta on two CentOS 5.5 32 bit machines
without known issue.  Ymmv.

Cheers,
B.J.

Fri Dec 17 06:05:49 EST 2010, CentOS 5.5, Linux 2.6.18-194.26.1.el5
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Re: [CentOS] Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:08 AM, B.J. McClure keepert...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 06:02 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Dejan cen...@bektchiev.net wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:47, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
  the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
  Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.
  snip
  I had a similar issue with Picasa on my Fedora 14 laptop. The solution
  was to download the latest Picasa version for Windows and run it under
  Wine.

 Fwiw, I am running Picasa 3 beta on two CentOS 5.5 32 bit machines without 
 known issue.  Ymmv.

B.J. I installed with yum from the google repository. Yum said it's
the latest version, but obviously it's not, if you are on 3.x... Lanny

Reinstalling:
 picasa   i386   2.7.3736-15 google
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Re: [CentOS] Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
 the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
 Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.

 Reinstalling:
  picasa           i386           2.7.3736-15             google
snip
On http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux it
looks like this is a general problem, so possibly uninstalling the
Picasa I got from the Google Repository and then installing Wine and
then installing the latest version of Picasa for M$ Windows is the way
to go.

On http://picasa.google.com/linux/faq.html#6 they show you can launch
Picasa, with the below command, but no joy with that on my box:

[la...@dell1602 ~]$ /opt/picasa/bin/picasa
/opt/picasa/bin/picasa: line 139:  4833 Segmentation fault
$PIC_BINDIR/wrapper check_dir.exe.so
/opt/picasa/bin/picasa: line 175:  4928 Segmentation fault
$PIC_BINDIR/wrapper regedit /E $registry_export
HKEY_USERS\\S-1-5-4\\Software\\Google\\Picasa\\Picasa2\\Preferences\\
[la...@dell1602 ~]$
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Re: [CentOS] Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread B.J. McClure

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 06:49 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:08 AM, B.J. McClure keepert...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
  On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 06:02 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Dejan cen...@bektchiev.net wrote:
   On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:47, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
   I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
   the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
   Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.
   snip
   I had a similar issue with Picasa on my Fedora 14 laptop. The solution
   was to download the latest Picasa version for Windows and run it under
   Wine.
 
  Fwiw, I am running Picasa 3 beta on two CentOS 5.5 32 bit machines without 
  known issue.  Ymmv.
 
 B.J. I installed with yum from the google repository. Yum said it's
 the latest version, but obviously it's not, if you are on 3.x... Lanny
 
 Reinstalling:
  picasa   i386   2.7.3736-15 google

I downloaded and installed from here:

http://picasa.google.com/linux/ 

HTH.

B.J.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread B.J. McClure

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 06:49 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:08 AM, B.J. McClure keepert...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:
  On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 06:02 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Dejan cen...@bektchiev.net wrote:
   On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:47, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
   I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
   the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
   Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.
   snip
   I had a similar issue with Picasa on my Fedora 14 laptop. The solution
   was to download the latest Picasa version for Windows and run it under
   Wine.
 
  Fwiw, I am running Picasa 3 beta on two CentOS 5.5 32 bit machines without 
  known issue.  Ymmv.
 
 B.J. I installed with yum from the google repository. Yum said it's
 the latest version, but obviously it's not, if you are on 3.x... Lanny
 
 Reinstalling:
  picasa   i386   2.7.3736-15 google

Here is the version:

[bmccl...@house ~]$ rpm -q picasa
picasa-3.0.5744-02

B.J.

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Re: [CentOS] Sendmail Replay problem

2010-12-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:27 AM, sync jian...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12/16/10 2:56 AM, sync wrote:
  Hi , guys :
 
 
  I have a problem about the sendmail replay . The following is my
  condition:
 
  I have installed the sendmail server on my laptop which installed
   CentOS 5.5
  x86 64,
  and I want to set up the sendmail replay.
 
 
  That is to say . If my linux account called test and his mail address is
  t...@test.com mailto:t...@test.com,
  when he get the new mail, then the server send the mail to the company
  mail
  server ,
    the new mail address is t...@aa.com mailto:t...@aa.com

 I assume you mean relay instead of replay, but your example requires the
 address
 to be re-written so maybe you mean forwarding.  For known users you can
 manage
 this with aliases.


 Thanks for all suggestions.

I didn't see install exim. You see, sendmail is very poor about
dealing with unqualified local email addresses: root and yout local
account name won't get relayed to the smarthost unless you set up
aliases or .forwards or other settings for them, anyway.

postfix can handle that, but then it ignores local .forwards and
locally configured aliases. Also unacceptable in my book.

Exim rather easily does both. If you'd like, I'll post my notes on the
configuration.
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[CentOS] {SOLVED} Re: Google Picasa / GNOME / how to launch application?

2010-12-17 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Dejan cen...@bektchiev.net wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:47, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had installed Picasa,apparently properly, but am unable to launch
 the application. In the GNOME Desktop menu, Applications  Graphics 
 Picasa  Picasa it does not launch. Reinstalled it and the same issue.
snip
 I had a similar issue with Picasa on my Fedora 14 laptop. The solution
 was to download the latest Picasa version for Windows and run it under
 Wine.

Dejan: Thank you. That's the easiest way!  I uninstalled the version
of Picasa for Linux I'd gotten from the google yum repository,
installed wine and then I downloaded the M$ Windows version (3.8) of
Google's Picasa and installed that with Wine.

Working!   :-)  Strangely, in the Help  About  it shows that it is
Picasa version 3.8.x for Linux.:-)

Thanks to the 3 of you who replied.  Much appreciated! Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Leonard den Ottolander
leon...@den.ottolander.nl wrote:
 Hello Nico,

 On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 15:20 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Leonard den Ottolander
  /usr/src/redhat and sub dirs are owned root.root. If you want to build
  as a normal user (and you should!) you should fix the ownership of those
  directories.

 NO. Never do this.

 Why would that be a problem?

 Regards,
 Leonard.

There are easily half a dozen reasons. The first one is that this is
where root runs their builds: if you leave it with write permission
for other users, they can replace components behind your back. Worse,
they can replace the .spec file, so when software is built, it runs as
the root user. Since various components do rely on RPM rebuilding,
such as HP's Proliant Service Pack, it inserts a great glaring
vulnerability to leverage when the rebuild occurs.

Second, if you open the permissions there, multiple users can step on
each other building similar packages at the same time, especially if
they happen to be different versions of the same software.

The third reason one is that /usr is typically of modest size, and
leaving it open for RPM development can lead to many gigabytes of
inappropriate debris scattering it. Many modern systems have a much
larger /usr than they used to, but having to allocate that much extra
space for compilation efforts may cause other interesting resource
allocation problems. And overflowing /usr can cause very serious
problems indeed.
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 686 livecd iso

2010-12-17 Thread ken
On 12/16/2010 09:36 AM Keith Roberts wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, ken wrote:
 
 To: CentOS Mailing List centos@centos.org
 From: ken geb...@mousecar.com
 Subject: [CentOS] centos6 686 livecd iso

 Just did a few searches, trying to find a redhat or centos 6.x livecd
 iso, preferably an i686... but no joy.  Maybe google's web crawlers
 haven't found the page yet.  Anybody here know where to find it?
 
 Is there such a thing yet?
 
 Keith

https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/browser/trunk/CentOS6 is
supposed to provide what's needed to make a beta iso for a CentOS6
livecd.  I don't have time to wade through the documentation (and
probably make a few mistakes and then have to start over a few times),
to make a bootable iso for a usb stick.  Since, according to what I've
read, the files on this page do result in a working livecd, and since
the newest contributions are two weeks old, I thought that somebody
might have already created an image or two.  So I was putting a call out.

Just thought... it would be nice if the iso image for a usb stick would
include space on the usb stick for writing data.  The ultimate goal is
to test the hardware on various laptops to ensure that the sound card,
NIC(s), video, etc. are all supported by available drivers.  Saved to a
file on the usb stick for each machine tested, this information could be
uploaded to the centos wiki for a pretty good Hardware Compatibility
List (HCL)... and make shopping for that next machine a whole lot
easier.  And so there'd be no (or at least many fewer) unpleasant
surprises when trying to install linux on that new machine you just got.


Anybody got some free time on their hands?

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Re: [CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-17 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hello Nico,

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 08:01 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 There are easily half a dozen reasons. The first one is that this is
 where root runs their builds: if you leave it with write permission
 for other users,

 Second, if you open the permissions there, multiple users can step on
 each other building similar packages at the same time,

I only suggested chowning to a single trusted user, not opening that
directory to all users.

 The third reason one is that /usr is typically of modest size, and
 leaving it open for RPM development can lead to many gigabytes of
 inappropriate debris scattering it.

I didn't mention this, but of course I use a separate partition
for /usr/src in this setup. This way my home directory doesn't get
cluttered with the remains of multiple builds that don't need backing
up.

Regards,
Leonard.

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[CentOS] Samba, id, uid, Active Directory and CentOS 5

2010-12-17 Thread Scott Ehrlich
I have some CentOS 5 systems that are part of an Active Directory
Windows 2003 domain (using natively configured files - not likewise
open).

getent passwd my_account reveals uid and gid are both 1:1.

Thus, typing: % id

reveals a uid of 1.

/etc/passwd does NOT have my local account created - credentials are
strictly from the Active Directory domain.

The username is of the format se123456.

I want my uid to be of the format 123456 (numeric part of the username.

I have looked at many options for smb.conf configurations.

At this point, I'm starting to believe that if getent passwd provides
1:1 fior uid/gid then id is providing the correct details.
My SID from the domain controller is correct when queried from CentOS.

usermod will not work to change the id since there is no entry in /etc/passwd.

Might a shell script of some kind help convert my uid from 1 to
123456?   It should not be static calculation, since anyone logging in
to that system should have their id equal the numeric portion of their
username, and the numeric part may be a smaller value than 1.

The numeric part of the username matches no part of the SID from Windows.

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45:36 pm Sean wrote:
 Hello Producers
 
 Longevity of Support is an attractive drawcard for CentOS if it means
 the exact opposite of Fedora's short support cycle that does not
 provide updating of infrastructural libraries for very long, libraries
 which newer versions of applications (like Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera
 etc) depend on and which wont install unless the libraries are also
 newer versions? But is that what it means -- ie that those
 infrastructural libraries (libpango, libcairo etc) are continuously
 updateable to fairly recent versions?

Longevity (things continue to work without breakage for a long time):
 This kind of implies don't keep stuff continously updated to recent 
versions don't you think?

Support (help if it breaks, security updates etc.):
 Is often realised by fixing bugs in the shipped versions and/or backporting 
fixes.
 
 If so, the problem is in reconciling that meaning with the reputation of
 CentOS to only support older versions of applications (eg Firefox-1.5,
 Thunderbird-1.0 etc).

yum list firefox on CentOS-5 as of right now:
...
firefox.x86_64   3.6.13-2.el5.centos   updates

 It does reconcile, of course, if  the implications
 are merely that the CentOS user must compile and install the later
 versions of such applications from source, rather than having the luxury
 of pre-packaged binaries. It doesn't reconcile if there is some other
 critical reason why newer such applications just wont install. But which?

It's very hard to get both I want to run the latest softwares and I want it 
to be stable for many years. When you run something like, for example, 
CentOS-5 you get stability (this means things to change completely from last 
month) and a long life (you can run it with updates enabled for many years).

What you _don't_ get is the latest upstream version of libfoobar that would 
allow you to build or install application-whatever.

...
 Then there is a further question, I'm afraid. Since CentOS also does
 specifically target the profile of a so-called 'enterprise/server-user'
 what does that actually entail.

It means pretty much what I've outlined above.

 Does it mean concrete security
 strictures which bolt down non-'root' users or does it merely mean the
 availability of SELinux (but which can be turned OFF)? For instance,

Enterprise vs. non-enterprise linux has very little to do with default 
security behaviour. It has more to do with lifetime, support and what kind of 
3rd party software and hardware it's been tested and qualified with.

/Peter

 (with SELinux OFF), can a user still:
 (a) su root via Kterm anytime?
 (b) Access services-admin anytime via Menu+Pam to control printers,
 modems, daemons etc?
 (c) compile
 (d) have 6 to 8 desktops running
 (e) call up 'konquerorsu.desktop' (root-konqueror with embedded root-Kterm)
 (f) have normal cron scheduling
 .. maybe more,


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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Friday, December 17, 2010 08:44:46 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
 Hallo,
 
 actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E
 -  Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD
 -  Not recognized by 5.2
 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2

It's not recommended to run CentOS-5.2 (many serious security 
vulnerabilities).

/Peter
 
 Update kernel?
 Update Modules? What Module?
 
 Thanks for help
 
 Helmut


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Re: [CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-17 Thread m . roth
Leonard den Ottolander wrote:
 Hello Nico,
 On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 08:01 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 There are easily half a dozen reasons. The first one is that this is
 where root runs their builds: if you leave it with write permission
 for other users,

 Second, if you open the permissions there, multiple users can step on
 each other building similar packages at the same time,

 I only suggested chowning to a single trusted user, not opening that
 directory to all users.
snip
Yes, but I don't know if you're doing this at work, or home. If the
former, what happens when someone else uses that to build, either a
co-worker, or you move on to a better job (or get hit by a car), who
doesn't know what's going on. It's better to leave the system in the way
it was intended, in terms of ownership and permissions, and so it's in a
known state.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 - mplayer install problems

2010-12-17 Thread John Doe
From: Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net

 I find smplayer is more stable than the mplayer-gui,  which 
 is a little bit odd, as it's a third party app, whereas 
 mplayer-gui is from the developers of mplayer itself.

I think I remember reading on their mailing list that smplayer was now the 
official (maintained) player...

JD


  
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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, December 17, 2010 02:44:46 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
 Hallo,
  
 actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E
 -  Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD
 -  Not recognized by 5.2
 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2

Why?  Are you wanting it as a VMware host or guest?  As the kernels are 
basically identical in terms of the version string, the VMware kernel modules, 
for VMware Server or Workstation as a host, and VMware tools as a guest, should 
load without a recompile.

I'm running a number of CentOS 5.5 guests on VMware ESX 3.5U5 with no issue.

Which VMware is this, type and version, please?
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Re: [CentOS] use parted to create raw paration????

2010-12-17 Thread mcclnx mcc
Thnks.

Can you tell me where is RPMforge third-party repository?  I search whole 
CENTOS 5.5 X86 installation DVD and can NOT find it.

 

--- 10/12/16 (四),Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu 寫道:

 寄件者: Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu
 主旨: Re: [CentOS] use parted to create raw paration
 收件者: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 日期: 2010年12月16日,四,下午2:20
 On Thursday, December 16, 2010
 02:03:23 pm mcclnx mcc wrote:
  if disk large than 2TB, fdisk will not work
 correctly.
 
 For GPT, use gdisk as a substitute for fdisk.  gdisk
 0.6.10 is available for CentOS 4 and 5 in the RPMforge
 third-party repository.  The version in Fedora 14 is
 0.6.13, for comparison.  Output on my laptop:
 [r...@localhost ~]# gdisk /dev/sda -l
 GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.6.13
 
 Partition table scan:
   MBR: protective
   BSD: not present
   APM: not present
   GPT: present
 
 Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
 Disk /dev/sda: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB
 Logical sector size: 512 bytes
 Disk identifier (GUID):
 11223344----AABBCCDD
 Partition table holds up to 128 entries
 First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 976773134
 Partitions will be aligned on 8-sector boundaries
 Total free space is 525717 sectors (256.7 MiB)
 
 Number  Start (sector)    End (sector) 
 Size       Code  Name
    1         
     40         
 409639   200.0
 MiB   EF00  EFI System Partition333
    2         
 409640   
    386210423   184.0
 GiB   AF00  MixBusSL333
    3   
    386473984   
    402104319   7.5 GiB 
    8200  LinuxSwap33
    4   
    402104320   
    484024319   39.1 GiB 
   0700  F14
    5   
    484024320   
    861511679   180.0
 GiB   0700  LinuxHome33
    6   
    861511680   
    976510983   54.8 GiB 
   AF00  Interchange
 [r...@localhost ~]# 
 
 Don't know why the repeated 3s are there.  
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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 05:45:36 pm Sean wrote:
 If so, the problem is in reconciling that meaning with the reputation of 
 CentOS to only support older versions of applications (eg Firefox-1.5, 
 Thunderbird-1.0 etc).

Where do people get this?  On one of my up to date CentOS 5 VM's:
[r...@zoneminder1 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 5.5 (Final)
[r...@zoneminder1 ~]# rpm -qi firefox
Name: firefox  Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 3.6.13Vendor: CentOS
[snip]
[r...@zoneminder1 ~]# yum list thunderbird
Available Packages
thunderbird.x86_642.0.0.24-13.el5.centos updates
[r...@zoneminder1 ~]#

On one of my CentOS 4 boxes, fully up to date:
[r...@pachyderm ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 4.8 (Final)
[r...@pachyderm ~]# yum list firefox
Available Packages
firefox.i386 3.6.13-3.el4.centosupdate  
[r...@pachyderm ~]# yum list thunderbird
Available Packages
thunderbird.i386 1.5.0.12-34.el4.centos update  
[r...@pachyderm ~]# 

Hmmm, how about CentOS 3 (of course, I have DAG enabled on that box, so it 
shows up):
[r...@campus root]# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 3.9 (Final)
[r...@campus root]# yum list firefox
[snip]
Looking in Available Packages:
NameArch   Version  Repo

firefox i386   0.8-3.1.el3.dag  dag 

And thunderbird isn't available.  Not surprised at the age, though, as that's 
Fedora Core 1 timeframes for C3.

So on the currently supported CentOS releases, 4 and 5, Firefox 3.6.13, Firefox 
3.6.13 is available.  So where does this FUD of 'FF 1.5 only' come from?
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 - mplayer install problems

2010-12-17 Thread Keith Roberts
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, John Doe wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: John Doe jd...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 - mplayer install problems
 
 From: Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net

 I find smplayer is more stable than the mplayer-gui,  which
 is a little bit odd, as it's a third party app, whereas
 mplayer-gui is from the developers of mplayer itself.

 I think I remember reading on their mailing list that smplayer was now the
 official (maintained) player...

 JD

I've not heard anything about that JD - all I know is that 
it works very well.

Keith




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Re: [CentOS] How to strip out the title bar from xterm windows on CentOS 5 GNOME?

2010-12-17 Thread Gabriel Tabares
 Hi.  Running CentOS 5 with the default GNOME desktop.  Is it possible
 to configure xterm windows not to have title bars to get the most out of
 the available screenspace?

I don't know how to do it with Gnome but, with KDE 3, you can set up a 
shortcut to remove the window decorations on a per-window basis.

 Found a reference to Compiz but the version available through CentOS
 seems old (0.0.13 compared to the current around 0.8 or 0.9) and having
 a double zero version number, I was afraid to use it.

If I remember correctly, Compiz was quite unstable at that time, but I 
may be wrong :)

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Re: [CentOS] use parted to create raw paration????

2010-12-17 Thread m . roth
mcclnx mcc wrote:
 Thnks.

 Can you tell me where is RPMforge third-party repository?  I search
 whole CENTOS 5.5 X86 installation DVD and can NOT find it.

Do you understand what a repository is? Hint: it's NOT ON A DVD.

   mark


 --- 10/12/16 (四),Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu 寫道:

 寄件者: Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu
 主旨: Re: [CentOS] use parted to create raw paration
 收件者: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 日期: 2010年12月16日,四,下午2:20
 On Thursday, December 16, 2010
 02:03:23 pm mcclnx mcc wrote:
  if disk large than 2TB, fdisk will not work
 correctly.

 For GPT, use gdisk as a substitute for fdisk.  gdisk
 0.6.10 is available for CentOS 4 and 5 in the RPMforge
 third-party repository.  The version in Fedora 14 is
 0.6.13, for comparison.  Output on my laptop:
 [r...@localhost ~]# gdisk /dev/sda -l
 GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.6.13

 Partition table scan:
   MBR: protective
   BSD: not present
   APM: not present
   GPT: present

 Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
 Disk /dev/sda: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB
 Logical sector size: 512 bytes
 Disk identifier (GUID):
 11223344----AABBCCDD
 Partition table holds up to 128 entries
 First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 976773134
 Partitions will be aligned on 8-sector boundaries
 Total free space is 525717 sectors (256.7 MiB)

 Number  Start (sector)    End (sector) 
 Size       Code  Name
    1         
     40         
 409639   200.0
 MiB   EF00  EFI System Partition333
    2         
 409640   
    386210423   184.0
 GiB   AF00  MixBusSL333
    3   
    386473984   
    402104319   7.5 GiB 
    8200  LinuxSwap33
    4   
    402104320   
    484024319   39.1 GiB 
   0700  F14
    5   
    484024320   
    861511679   180.0
 GiB   0700  LinuxHome33
    6   
    861511680   
    976510983   54.8 GiB 
   AF00  Interchange
 [r...@localhost ~]#

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Re: [CentOS] use parted to create raw paration????

2010-12-17 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 12/17/2010 9:48 AM, mcclnx mcc wrote:
 Thnks.

 Can you tell me where is RPMforge third-party repository?  I search whole 
 CENTOS 5.5 X86 installation DVD and can NOT find it.

That's because it is third-party -- meaning that it is not part of the
official CentOS distribution.

You can find the info on it here:

http://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge/Using

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[CentOS] Opinions wanted...user management options....Home network

2010-12-17 Thread Tom Bishop
So I need some opinions on which way to go, for my home network I am running
almost all linux, and I am starting to want to manage all of the users
accounts, uid/gids for all of the devices some of which are laptops...so
what is the best path going forward, on the server end I am running
Centos5.5 and will be moving to centos 6 once it is released...the laptops
and desktops run various flavors of Ubuntu/Fedora..Thanks in advanced, if
there are any questions let me know
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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 8:18 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote:

 Longevity (things continue to work without breakage for a long time):
   This kind of implies don't keep stuff continously updated to recent
 versions don't you think?

It could work that way if the upstream developers of the thousands of included 
projects understood the need for backwards compatibility to keep things 
working. 
  They don't.

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Re: [CentOS] Samba, id, uid, Active Directory and CentOS 5

2010-12-17 Thread James Pearson
Scott Ehrlich wrote:
 I have some CentOS 5 systems that are part of an Active Directory
 Windows 2003 domain (using natively configured files - not likewise
 open).
 
 getent passwd my_account reveals uid and gid are both 1:1.
 
 Thus, typing: % id
 
 reveals a uid of 1.
 
 /etc/passwd does NOT have my local account created - credentials are
 strictly from the Active Directory domain.
 
 The username is of the format se123456.
 
 I want my uid to be of the format 123456 (numeric part of the username.
 
 I have looked at many options for smb.conf configurations.
 
 At this point, I'm starting to believe that if getent passwd provides
 1:1 fior uid/gid then id is providing the correct details.
 My SID from the domain controller is correct when queried from CentOS.
 
 usermod will not work to change the id since there is no entry in /etc/passwd.
 
 Might a shell script of some kind help convert my uid from 1 to
 123456?   It should not be static calculation, since anyone logging in
 to that system should have their id equal the numeric portion of their
 username, and the numeric part may be a smaller value than 1.
 
 The numeric part of the username matches no part of the SID from Windows.

Have a look at the bit about the rfc2307 schema at: 
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba__Active_Directory#Advanced_Configuration

If you are running Windows 2003 R2 with the optional IDMU (Identity 
Management for Unix), then you can store Unix UID/GID (and other 
standard passwd fields) in Active Directory for each user - and use 
these via winbind

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Re: [CentOS] Sendmail Replay problem

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 6:49 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:27 AM, syncjian...@gmail.com  wrote:


 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com  wrote:

 On 12/16/10 2:56 AM, sync wrote:
 Hi , guys :


 I have a problem about the sendmail replay . The following is my
 condition:

 I have installed the sendmail server on my laptop which installed
   CentOS 5.5
 x86 64,
 and I want to set up the sendmail replay.


 That is to say . If my linux account called test and his mail address is
 t...@test.commailto:t...@test.com,
 when he get the new mail, then the server send the mail to the company
 mail
 server ,
the new mail address is t...@aa.commailto:t...@aa.com

 I assume you mean relay instead of replay, but your example requires the
 address
 to be re-written so maybe you mean forwarding.  For known users you can
 manage
 this with aliases.


 Thanks for all suggestions.

 I didn't see install exim. You see, sendmail is very poor about
 dealing with unqualified local email addresses: root and yout local
 account name won't get relayed to the smarthost unless you set up
 aliases or .forwards or other settings for them, anyway.

Being able to configure those separately is a feature, not a bug.  But another 
problem is that these days most systems you would forward to won't accept email 
unless the 'From: ' has a domain that can be resolved in DNS which can be hard 
to arrange on system-generated mail on some ad-hoc machine.

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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Helmut Drodofsky
- I'm using 5.2 or 5.3 as a host.
- my expierince: 5.4 is not stable with vmware as a host.

The hosts are completely behind firewall.

Vmware server 2.0.2-203138

With 5.3 my problem was solved.

Helmut


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On Friday, December 17, 2010 02:44:46 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
 Hallo,
  
 actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E
 -  Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD
 -  Not recognized by 5.2
 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2

Why?  Are you wanting it as a VMware host or guest?  As the kernels are 
basically identical in terms of the version string, the VMware kernel modules, 
for VMware Server or Workstation as a host, and VMware tools as a guest, should 
load without a recompile.

I'm running a number of CentOS 5.5 guests on VMware ESX 3.5U5 with no issue.

Which VMware is this, type and version, please?
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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, December 17, 2010 10:55:58 am Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 12/17/10 8:18 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote:
 
  Longevity (things continue to work without breakage for a long time):
This kind of implies don't keep stuff continously updated to recent
  versions don't you think?
 
 It could work that way if the upstream developers of the thousands of 
 included 
 projects understood the need for backwards compatibility to keep things 
 working. 
   They don't.

In some cases the breakage is intentional.  In others, components become 
unmaintained, or worse.  Case in point: way back in KDE 1.x or 2.x days I made 
up some documents in KWord that included some embedded diagrams using a 
component included in that old KDE but not in newer KDE.  Result?  While KWord 
opens the files ok, there are no longer any embedded diagrams.

So I actually keep a really old Linux dist (Mandrake 5.3, or maybe Red Hat 6.2; 
can't remember at the moment, been too long) around just in case I need to open 
one of those files; none of the export choices in KWord of that day include the 
ability to export the diagrams, and I just haven't had time to convert the 
diagrams (it's been a long time since I needed one of those anyway, long enough 
that I forget the name of the componentargh).
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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, December 17, 2010 11:21:29 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
 Vmware server 2.0.2-203138

And that would be the most recent build.

 With 5.3 my problem was solved.

Have you tried 5.5 yet?

For grins and giggles I'm going to play with it on a box I have, but it will be 
a little while before I have anything definitive.

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[CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Beartooth

I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and 
I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. 

She's far more likely to outlive me than I her; so I want to 
install something requiring a lot less maintenance on her machine, so 
that she'll have it and be used to it, years ahead of need.

I'm thinking CentOS 6, whenever it's ready, is probably my best 
choice. Any thoughts? (And yes, I do mean what my .sig says.)





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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Friday, December 17, 2010 04:55:58 pm Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 12/17/10 8:18 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote:
  Longevity (things continue to work without breakage for a long time):
This kind of implies don't keep stuff continously updated to recent
  
  versions don't you think?
 
 It could work that way if the upstream developers of the thousands of
 included projects understood the need for backwards compatibility to keep
 things working. They don't.

While fine in theory this wouldn't work in real life since they would have to 
be backwards compatible not only for their official features but also for 
bugs/quirks/unintended features.

So even if those thousands of upstream projects managed to remain (from their 
perspective) perfectly backwards compatible things would still break.

Not to mention the need to break backwards compatibility once in a while to 
move projects along (read: major versions).

/Peter


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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 10:21 AM, Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
 - I'm using 5.2 or 5.3 as a host.
 - my expierince: 5.4 is not stable with vmware as a host.

 The hosts are completely behind firewall.

 Vmware server 2.0.2-203138

 With 5.3 my problem was solved.

The 2.x series of vmware server are badly broken with respect to RHEL/Centos - 
plus the change to the web based console is horrible.  I'm running the older 
1.x 
server on several centos 5.5 machines with no problems.  But, if it is at all 
feasible you are better off running the free Vmware ESXi on the host instead of 
the server version.  You do need a windows box to run the remote console, 
though.

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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Guenther Boelter
On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote:

   I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and
 I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support.

What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit 
of using CentOS instead?
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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 10:54 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
 On Friday, December 17, 2010 10:55:58 am Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 12/17/10 8:18 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote:

 Longevity (things continue to work without breakage for a long time):
This kind of implies don't keep stuff continously updated to recent
 versions don't you think?

 It could work that way if the upstream developers of the thousands of 
 included
 projects understood the need for backwards compatibility to keep things 
 working.
They don't.

 In some cases the breakage is intentional.  In others, components become 
 unmaintained, or worse.  Case in point: way back in KDE 1.x or 2.x days I 
 made up some documents in KWord that included some embedded diagrams using a 
 component included in that old KDE but not in newer KDE.  Result?  While 
 KWord opens the files ok, there are no longer any embedded diagrams.

 So I actually keep a really old Linux dist (Mandrake 5.3, or maybe Red Hat 
 6.2; can't remember at the moment, been too long) around just in case I need 
 to open one of those files; none of the export choices in KWord of that day 
 include the ability to export the diagrams, and I just haven't had time to 
 convert the diagrams (it's been a long time since I needed one of those 
 anyway, long enough that I forget the name of the componentargh).

To overgeneralize, that's one of the big differences between free and 
commercial 
software.  Commercial software that has a customer base that they can't afford 
to lose will rarely break backwards compatibility, or if they do, they'll 
provide conversion tools to manage the migration.  But free software developers 
have nothing to lose from wild and crazy changes that apparently are what they 
like to do.  That's what makes 'enterprise' distributions so important because 
they help manage the changes.  Linux would be much less popular (if you can 
call 
it's tiny share that) without them, especially after the kernel dropped the 
convention of putting its experimental changes on an odd-numbered branch.

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Re: [CentOS] Opinions wanted...user management options....Home network

2010-12-17 Thread David Sommerseth
On 17/12/10 16:55, Tom Bishop wrote:
 So I need some opinions on which way to go, for my home network I am
 running almost all linux, and I am starting to want to manage all of the
 users accounts, uid/gids for all of the devices some of which are
 laptops...so what is the best path going forward, on the server end I am
 running Centos5.5 and will be moving to centos 6 once it is
 released...the laptops and desktops run various flavors of
 Ubuntu/Fedora..Thanks in advanced, if there are any questions let me
 know

Install the centos-ds suite.  That'll give you a great directory server,
accessible via LDAP.  Then you can consider to setup a kerberos server
as well, where you can easily do single sign-on between your hosts as well.

centos-ds is the rebranded Red Hat Directory server, also available in
Fedora as 389 Directory Server.  So the docs for setting up and
administering it shouldn't be too far away.


kind regards,

David Sommerseht

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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 11:11 AM, Guenther Boelter wrote:
 On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote:

  I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and
 I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support.

 What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit
 of using CentOS instead?

You'll get tired of having to re-install fedora at least yearly.  If you are 
young that might not sound like very often - but eventually you'll change your 
mind, especially if you manage very many machines and/or run into the problems 
you hit with less-tested versions.  Remember that the main purpose for fedora 
is 
to get the first large-scale testing done before things go into RHEL.

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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On 12/17/10 11:11 AM, Guenther Boelter wrote:
 On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote:

 I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- 
 and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support.

 What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the 
 benefit of using CentOS instead?

 You'll get tired of having to re-install fedora at least yearly. 
 If you are young that might not sound like very often - but 
 eventually you'll change your mind,

+1

big-grin/

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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 11:11 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote:

 It could work that way if the upstream developers of the thousands of
 included projects understood the need for backwards compatibility to keep
 things working. They don't.

 While fine in theory this wouldn't work in real life since they would have to
 be backwards compatible not only for their official features but also for
 bugs/quirks/unintended features.

 So even if those thousands of upstream projects managed to remain (from their
 perspective) perfectly backwards compatible things would still break.

 Not to mention the need to break backwards compatibility once in a while to
 move projects along (read: major versions).

That 'need' kind of depends on how bad your original interface designs were. 
How much has the kernel needed to break from either Posix or the SysVr4 spec?

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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread David Sommerseth
On 17/12/10 18:24, Scott Robbins wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote:
 On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote:

 I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and
 I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support.

 What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit 
 of using CentOS instead?
 
 Fedora will break things.  They're still, in many ways, figuring out
 what they are, but they do serve as a test bed, or perhaps development
 platform, for various things that aren't ready for prime time.

I so often hear that Fedora breaks things.  I've been running F-11 and
F-12 on a server as KVM host, without issues.  I've been using F8-F13 on
several computers (3 laptops and a workstation), and I can't really say
it has broken anything on my setups.  It might be I'm not using it
right to experience such breakage.  Use cases are everything from
mail, surf and OO.org to development tasks

In fact, for me, Fedora has been way more stable and solid than the time
I was running Ubuntu (from Gibson to Ibix), where I got worried every
time there were new updates available.

But rightfully enough, I've never tried CentOS on the desktop.  Maybe
CentOS 6 will be a good choice for that.


kind regards,

David Sommerseth

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Re: [CentOS] Opinions wanted...user management options....Home network

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 11:27 AM, David Sommerseth wrote:
 On 17/12/10 16:55, Tom Bishop wrote:
 So I need some opinions on which way to go, for my home network I am
 running almost all linux, and I am starting to want to manage all of the
 users accounts, uid/gids for all of the devices some of which are
 laptops...so what is the best path going forward, on the server end I am
 running Centos5.5 and will be moving to centos 6 once it is
 released...the laptops and desktops run various flavors of
 Ubuntu/Fedora..Thanks in advanced, if there are any questions let me
 know

 Install the centos-ds suite.  That'll give you a great directory server,
 accessible via LDAP.  Then you can consider to setup a kerberos server
 as well, where you can easily do single sign-on between your hosts as well.

 centos-ds is the rebranded Red Hat Directory server, also available in
 Fedora as 389 Directory Server.  So the docs for setting up and
 administering it shouldn't be too far away.

Does anyone know if the LDAP service that works out of the box on ClearOS can 
be 
easily used for authentication by other OS versions?  If so, installing one of 
those (which also gives you email, samba, and a bunch of other services) would 
make it painless because it includes a very nice ajax-y web interface to manage 
everything.

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[CentOS] google chrome big brother

2010-12-17 Thread S Mathias
Google Chrome Terms of Service(Google Chrome executable), BSD (source code and 
Chromium executable except chromium 5 beta),BSD License with proprietary parts 
(source code and chromium 5 beta executable, as it integrates Adobe Flash 
Player 10.1[1])[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
in my interpretation, this means Google Chrome is fully open-source, only the 
flash player has proprietary codes.
am i right, or i'm missing something?
i would be happy if someone could correct me.
thank you!!
*ps.: because they say google is the big brother


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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Guenther Boelter
On 12/18/2010 01:24 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote:
 On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote:

 I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and
 I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support.

 What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit
 of using CentOS instead?

 Fedora will break things.  They're still, in many ways, figuring out
 what they are, but they do serve as a test bed, or perhaps development
 platform, for various things that aren't ready for prime time.

Not really ...

Redhat 6.0 and hopefully CentOS 6 is a very good OS for a server, no 
question. But for me, Fedora is the better OS for a workstation. 
Actually I'm still using Fedora 13 and I'm very satisfied with that.

I'm running CentOS 5  on my servers, that's really ok. What I don't like 
is, that there are no informations about CentOS 6 on there homepage. 
Something like '50% are already done' or so. There is always the 
feeling, that the project might be dead. That's not really good i think ...

Was thinking about the Ubuntu Server Edition instead for a while, but I 
don't like Ubuntu so much. Don't ask me why: The answer would be a 
little bit longer ...

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Re: [CentOS] Opinions wanted...user management options....Home network

2010-12-17 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, David Sommerseth
d...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

 Install the centos-ds suite.  That'll give you a great directory server,
 accessible via LDAP.  Then you can consider to setup a kerberos server
 as well, where you can easily do single sign-on between your hosts as well.

 centos-ds is the rebranded Red Hat Directory server, also available in
 Fedora as 389 Directory Server.  So the docs for setting up and
 administering it shouldn't be too far away.

I second this.  It's easy to configure and works great. I'm running it
on my network.
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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread m . roth
David Sommerseth wrote:
 On 17/12/10 18:24, Scott Robbins wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote:
 On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote:

I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and
 I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support.

 What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit
 of using CentOS instead?

 Fedora will break things.  They're still, in many ways, figuring out
snip
 I so often hear that Fedora breaks things.  I've been running F-11 and
 F-12 on a server as KVM host, without issues.  I've been using F8-F13 on
 several computers (3 laptops and a workstation), and I can't really say
 it has broken anything on my setups.  It might be I'm not using it
snip
I upgraded a workstation that we do offline backups on to FC 13, from FC
10. I *H*A*T*E*D*!!! FC13. Things do *not* work right. I had to remove
gnome, because it was hosed - you couldn't log in in runlevel 5, got a
vertical bar a couple of pixels wide instead of a login pane. It crashed,
every other week it seemed, and yes, I was doing updates. FC14 *seems* to
be a bit more stable, though right now, I'm fighting to try to get
ssh-agent working correctly on it - just did a full update, and now it
starts it on login... but doesn't stop it on logout, and doesn't pass the
environment variables.

*bleah*

In '06, when I was going to upgrade from Redhat 9 (not RHEL, shrike), it
was SuSE or Ubuntu, wound up with SuSE. When I was ready to go up from
openSuSE 10.3, I went to CentOS. I want a solid system at home - I do
enough admin work at work, I don't want to be debugging the o/s at home.
The my opinion, and the opinion of a number of folks I personally know
(including ESR, btw) of fedora is that it's bleeding edge, not leading
edge.

  mark


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Re: [CentOS] How to strip out the title bar from xterm windows on CentOS 5 GNOME?

2010-12-17 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Aleksey Tsalolikhin
atsaloli.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.  Running CentOS 5 with the default GNOME desktop.  Is it possible
 to configure xterm windows not to have title bars to get the most out of
 the available screenspace?

 I've tried to look this up but mostly find reference how to change the
 content of the title bar; I want to remove it completely.

 Found a reference to Compiz but the version available through CentOS
 seems old (0.0.13 compared to the current around 0.8 or 0.9) and having
 a double zero version number, I was afraid to use it.

For an Xterm you'd use an .Xresources file then install with xrdb.
The xterm man page should have the relevant entries.
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[CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 mixing with i386 rpms

2010-12-17 Thread Johan Scheepers
Good day,

What will happen if on x86_64 some i386 rpms get installed, please.
Thanks
Johan
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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread JohnS

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:11 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 12/17/10 10:21 AM, Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
 The 2.x series of vmware server are badly broken with respect to RHEL/Centos 
 - 
 plus the change to the web based console is horrible.  

Mine is not broken.  The web Admin works like it should.  

 the server version.  You do need a windows box to run the remote console, 
 though.

No you do not that is not so.  The Console can be executed with out ever
going to the web admin.
As in the plugin can be executed with out firefox.

John

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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 mixing with i386 rpms

2010-12-17 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:23:36 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Good day,
 
 What will happen if on x86_64 some i386 rpms get installed, please.

Depends.  It is in fact *normal* for i[3456]86 *libraries* to be
installed on a CentOS/RHEL x86_64 system (many are installed by
default).  It is possible to also install i[3456]86 *programs* as well,
and this works just fine, since A) the x86_64 kernel/program loader is
just as happy to run 32-bit programs as to run 64-bit programs and B)
the various i[3456]86 *libraries* are also generally (or can be)
installed.  Installing a i686 *kernel* or *kernel module* is pretty
much useless, unless you reboot with the 32-bit kernel.  At which point
your *64-bit* programs won't work :-(.  You don't want to do that.  For
some programs/packages, installing the 32-bit version might be ill
advised, but I don't think things will necessarily break.

What you should *not* do is try to upgrade a 32-bit OS to 64-bit: you
should *always* do a 'fresh install' if/when you do that.  Make a backup of
your /etc and /home and maybe things like /var/www and /var/ftp, dump
your MySQL/Progress/OpenLDAP databases, etc., unless that stuff is on a
separate file system.

 Thanks
 Johan
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 mixing with i386 rpms

2010-12-17 Thread Nicolas Ross
 Good day,

 What will happen if on x86_64 some i386 rpms get installed, please.
 Thanks
 Johan

You'll need some libraries, like libstdc++ in i686 version, but they'll be 
installed and they'll run.

Regards, 

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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Sean
Ah, a reminder that it is always dangerous to unveil the vague? Sorry 
... I should have pre-read 6000 pages from Redhat ... (but maybe I did!).
Sean

Michael R. Dilworth wrote:
 I'm sorry (I know don't feed the trolls), but recently 
 there have been quite a few remarks resembling this. 
 Also, I'm beginning to believe the remark made earlier
 by ???, which roughly stated Each time a new release 
 is due, the flame wars erupt.

 Just what part of CentOS is a Mirror or Redhat OS do 
 you miss?

 Now please, return to the rpm building and raid/lvm 
 discussions, as I find them very interesting and
 educational.

 michael...
  

   
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 Hello Producers

 Longevity of Support is an attractive drawcard for CentOS if it means 
 the exact opposite of Fedora's short support cycle that does not 
 provide updating of infrastructural libraries for very long, libraries 
 which newer versions of applications (like Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera 
 etc) depend on and which wont install unless the libraries are also 
 newer versions? But is that what it means -- ie that those 
 infrastructural libraries (libpango, libcairo etc) are continuously 
 updateable to fairly recent versions?

 If so, the problem is in reconciling that meaning with the reputation of 
 CentOS to only support older versions of applications (eg Firefox-1.5, 
 Thunderbird-1.0 etc). It does reconcile, of course, if  the implications 
 are merely that the CentOS user must compile and install the later 
 versions of such applications from source, rather than having the luxury 
 of pre-packaged binaries. It doesn't reconcile if there is some other 
 critical reason why newer such applications just wont install. But which?

 I ask here because the profusion of vague mission statements and 
 'target-enduser-profile' claims that litter the internet re '*nix 
 distros' seldom actually address those real issues. And hopefully 
 someone can enlighten. My complex production  developement desktop 
 takes months to fully port to a new OS (or OS-version), so OS updates to 
 get library updates (ala Fedora philosophy) becomes increasingly untenable.

 Then there is a further question, I'm afraid. Since CentOS also does 
 specifically target the profile of a so-called 'enterprise/server-user' 
 what does that actually entail. Does it mean concrete security 
 strictures which bolt down non-'root' users or does it merely mean the 
 availability of SELinux (but which can be turned OFF)? For instance, 
 (with SELinux OFF), can a user still:
 (a) su root via Kterm anytime?
 (b) Access services-admin anytime via Menu+Pam to control printers, 
 modems, daemons etc?
 (c) compile
 (d) have 6 to 8 desktops running
 (e) call up 'konquerorsu.desktop' (root-konqueror with embedded root-Kterm)
 (f) have normal cron scheduling
 .. maybe more, 
 but that's a start.

 Thanks for listening.

 Sean



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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 12:36 PM, JohnS wrote:

 On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:11 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 12/17/10 10:21 AM, Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
 The 2.x series of vmware server are badly broken with respect to RHEL/Centos 
 -
 plus the change to the web based console is horrible.

 Mine is not broken.  The web Admin works like it should.

Just to be clear - do you mean you are running vmware 2.x server under post 5.2 
Centos without the library issues that everyone else had?   The change to the 
web admin is a separate issue and not technically broken - I just don't like it.

 the server version.  You do need a windows box to run the remote console, 
 though.

 No you do not that is not so.  The Console can be executed with out ever
 going to the web admin.
 As in the plugin can be executed with out firefox.

And this was in the context of ESXi.  Are you saying you can get a console to 
the ESXi server on something other than windows?

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Re: [CentOS] Opinions wanted...user management options....Home network

2010-12-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/2010 07:55 AM, Tom Bishop wrote:
 So I need some opinions on which way to go, for my home network I am 
 running almost all linux, and I am starting to want to manage all of 
 the users accounts, uid/gids for all of the devices some of which are 
 laptops...so what is the best path going forward, on the server end I 
 am running Centos5.5 and will be moving to centos 6 once it is 
 released...the laptops and desktops run various flavors of 
 Ubuntu/Fedora..Thanks in advanced, if there are any questions let me 
 know

http://freeipa.org/page/Main_Page

Packages are available for current Fedora releases, so you'll probably 
be best off waiting for CentOS 6.
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Re: [CentOS] /dev/null permission changes figured out

2010-12-17 Thread Joe Pruett
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Benjamin Franz wrote:

 The man page for lastb says if you just complete delete /var/log/btmp
 the system shouldn't recreate it on its own.

 That is the simplest answer.

i have done this for now, but the initscripts rpm will recreate it for me 
if it updates (how helpful :-).  i should probably whine upstream that 
nothing rotates the btmp file.
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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/2010 10:11 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
FC14 *seems* to
 be a bit more stable, though right now, I'm fighting to try to get
 ssh-agent working correctly on it - just did a full update, and now it
 starts it on login... but doesn't stop it on logout, and doesn't pass the
 environment variables.

Off topic, but:
You're probably trying too hard.  ssh-agent works correctly on a clean 
install of Fedora and has for many releases.  You don't need to 
configure anything.
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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Sean
Interesting, and probably worth a play with indeed, although I tend to 
steer clear of Bash (unhappy with) whenever possible to do the same in 
Perl (happy with). I imagine there is machine level stuff involved that 
would rule out a pure Perl version?
However, my difficulties for OS replacement are not so much the OS setup 
itself but the 'production' stuff that needs to go on top and a raft of 
dependencies -- compilers, BerkeleyDB, myriad Perl modules etc etc etc. 
Since the system is 'live', I usually have to run 2 versions in parallel 
for a long time... so lots of rollbacks, synchronising overhead and so 
on. Usually newer versions of some things have to be replaced with older 
versions and then inter-dependency issues arise... some of the stuff I 
upgraded specifically for suddenly stops working. You are familiar with 
the general picture, I'm sure.
But thanks for the thought.
Sean
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedOn Fri, 
 17 Dec 2010, Sean wrote:

 To: centos@centos.org
 From: Sean s...@orcon.net.nz
 Subject: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

 Hello Producers

 Longevity of Support is an attractive drawcard for CentOS if it means
 the exact opposite of Fedora's short support cycle that does not
 provide updating of infrastructural libraries for very long, libraries
 which newer versions of applications (like Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera
 etc) depend on and which wont install unless the libraries are also
 newer versions? But is that what it means -- ie that those
 infrastructural libraries (libpango, libcairo etc) are continuously
 updateable to fairly recent versions?

 If so, the problem is in reconciling that meaning with the reputation of
 CentOS to only support older versions of applications (eg Firefox-1.5,
 Thunderbird-1.0 etc). It does reconcile, of course, if  the implications
 are merely that the CentOS user must compile and install the later
 versions of such applications from source, rather than having the luxury
 of pre-packaged binaries. It doesn't reconcile if there is some other
 critical reason why newer such applications just wont install. But 
 which?

 I ask here because the profusion of vague mission statements and
 'target-enduser-profile' claims that litter the internet re '*nix
 distros' seldom actually address those real issues. And hopefully
 someone can enlighten. My complex production  developement desktop
 takes months to fully port to a new OS (or OS-version), so OS updates to
 get library updates (ala Fedora philosophy) becomes increasingly 
 untenable.

 You might be interested in giving my ALI scripts a whirl on a spare 
 machine (even an old laptop)  to start with, so you get used to how 
 they work.

 I wrote these especially to deal with doing a fresh linux installation.

 http://www.karsites.net/centos/anyuser/auto-linux-installer.php

 I can set up the services I want running in under 10 seconds. Beats 
 sitting there doing it manually for 3 days!

 The general idea is that you modify the installer scripts to work with 
 a particular system - just do it one time. Then you can replay the 
 scripts as often as you want, to re-install your system.

 Please let the list know if they help with your installation/update woes.

 BTW. Some applications such as Firefox need to be updated to their 
 latest versions, otherwise websites will not work with an older 
 version. I had these issues with running an old version of FF on 
 Fedora 8. I went from F8 to F12 using my ALI scripts without any 
 problems.

 Kind Regards,

 Keith Roberts

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Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread JohnS

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:23 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 12/17/10 12:36 PM, JohnS wrote:
 
  Mine is not broken.  The web Admin works like it should.
 
 Just to be clear - do you mean you are running vmware 2.x server under post 
 5.2 
 Centos without the library issues that everyone else had?   The change to the 
 web admin is a separate issue and not technically broken - I just don't like 
 it.
 
  the server version.  You do need a windows box to run the remote console, 
  though.
 
  No you do not that is not so.  The Console can be executed with out ever
  going to the web admin.
  As in the plugin can be executed with out firefox.
 
 And this was in the context of ESXi.  Are you saying you can get a console to 
 the ESXi server on something other than windows?

Less,

Your inbox will give you the answer...

John

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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread m . roth
Gordon Messmer wrote:
 On 12/17/2010 10:11 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
FC14 *seems* to
 be a bit more stable, though right now, I'm fighting to try to get
 ssh-agent working correctly on it - just did a full update, and now it
 starts it on login... but doesn't stop it on logout, and doesn't pass
 the environment variables.

 Off topic, but:
 You're probably trying too hard.  ssh-agent works correctly on a clean
 install of Fedora and has for many releases.  You don't need to
 configure anything.

Not with PIV-II cards

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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 2:12 PM, Sean wrote:
 Interesting, and probably worth a play with indeed, although I tend to
 steer clear of Bash (unhappy with) whenever possible to do the same in
 Perl (happy with). I imagine there is machine level stuff involved that
 would rule out a pure Perl version?
 However, my difficulties for OS replacement are not so much the OS setup
 itself but the 'production' stuff that needs to go on top and a raft of
 dependencies -- compilers, BerkeleyDB, myriad Perl modules etc etc etc.
 Since the system is 'live', I usually have to run 2 versions in parallel
 for a long time... so lots of rollbacks, synchronising overhead and so
 on. Usually newer versions of some things have to be replaced with older
 versions and then inter-dependency issues arise... some of the stuff I
 upgraded specifically for suddenly stops working. You are familiar with
 the general picture, I'm sure.
 But thanks for the thought.

You didn't exactly make it clear whether you've used CentOS or not, but keeping 
those interfaces from changing in ways that break things that used to work is 
the whole point of 'enterprise' distributions and CentOS inherits the work of 
backporting bug/security fixes without introducing behavior changes over the 
long life span from RHEL.

You might also do your own homework and avoid components with a history of 
breaking backwards compatibility (like BerkeleyDB...).  As you have probably 
noticed, core perl has excellent historical stability - interpolating unquoted 
@ 
in strings is just about the only change in perl 5 that might require a change 
all the way back from perl1 code.  But the modules are done by lots of other 
people and occasionally are re-factored in ways that require coordinated 
changes. If you are getting these from a 3rd party repository, someone else has 
usually done the work of vetting the dependencies among them.

Or, you might move to java for a more self-contained, OS/distribution 
independent way of doing things.

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Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-17 Thread Keith Roberts
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, John Hodrien wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s
 
 On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Keith Roberts wrote:

 Thanks for all the responses!

 I've read MaximumRPM from:

 http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/index.html

 Which helped me a great deal.

 I'll start a new thread regarding using RPM to build
 packages.

 You'll find MaximumRPM will have taught you a whole lot you didn't need to
 know (not that this is a bad thing).  In this case, it really should have been
 a case of:

 yum install lame
 wget src.rpm
 rpmbuild --rebuild src.rpm
 rpm -Uvh --force shiny-new-binary.rpm

 No twiddling with the spec file was required, as it already auto-detected the
 presence of lame.

 jh

Thanks to JH  JD and everyone else on this thread.

I now have a brand-new shiny sox binary (that I rebuilt 
myself ;) ) with the required mp3 support.

Installed Packages
Name   : sox
Arch   : i386
Version: 12.18.1
Release: 1
Size   : 665 k
Repo   : installed
Summary: A general purpose sound file conversion tool.
URL: http://sox.sourceforge.net/
License: GPL
Description: SoX (Sound eXchange) is a sound file format 
converter SoX can convert
: between many different digitized sound formats 
and perform simple
: sound manipulation functions, including sound 
effects.

Available Packages
Name   : sox
Arch   : i386
Version: 12.18.1
Release: 1.el5_5.1
Size   : 313 k
Repo   : updates
Summary: A general purpose sound file conversion tool.
URL: http://sox.sourceforge.net/
License: GPL
Description: SoX (Sound eXchange) is a sound file format 
converter SoX can convert
: between many different digitized sound formats 
and perform simple
: sound manipulation functions, including sound 
effects.

[r...@karsites i386]# sox -h
sox: Version 12.18.1

Usage: [ gopts ] [ fopts ] ifile [ fopts ] ofile [ effect [ 
effopts ] ]

gopts: -e -h -p -q -S -V

fopts: -r rate -c channels -s/-u/-U/-A/-a/-i/-g/-f 
-b/-w/-l/-d -v volume -x

effect: avg band bandpass bandreject chorus compand copy 
dcshift deemph earwax echo echos fade filter flanger highp 
highpass lowp lowpass mask mcompand noiseprof noisered pan 
phaser pick pitch polyphase rate repeat resample reverb 
reverse silence speed stat stretch swap synth trim vibro vol

effopts: depends on effect

Supported file formats: aiff al alsa au auto avr cdr cvs dat 
vms gsm hcom la lu maud  *mp3*  nul ossdsp prc raw sb sf sl 
smp sndt sph 8svx sw txw ub ul uw voc vorbis vox wav wve

Kind Regards,

Keith

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[CentOS] Passing LD_LIBRARY_PATH through sudo

2010-12-17 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello,

I have a CentOS 5.5/64bit VM, where I only have sudo rights:

afarber  ALL=(ALL)   NOPASSWD: ALL

I'm trying to pass LD_LIBRARY_PATH
through sudo to install DBD::Oracle
( https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=63678 )
and have tried using sudo -E and also
changing these lines in the stock /etc/sudoers:

Defaults!env_reset
Defaultsenv_keep = LD_LIBRARY_PATH \
COLORS DISPLAY HOSTNAME HISTSIZE INPUTRC KDEDIR \
LS_COLORS MAIL PS1 PS2 QTDIR USERNAME \
LANG LC_ADDRESS LC_CTYPE LC_COLLATE LC_IDENTIFICATION \
LC_MEASUREMENT LC_MESSAGES LC_MONETARY LC_NAME
LC_NUMERIC \
LC_PAPER LC_TELEPHONE LC_TIME LC_ALL LANGUAGE LINGUAS \
_XKB_CHARSET XAUTHORITY

Still my test call fails:

afar...@vm:~ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/usr/lib/oracle/11.2/client64
afar...@vm:~ sudo -E perl -e 'print $ENV{LD_LIBRARY_PATH}';
afar...@vm:~
afar...@vm:~ sudo -E perl -e 'print $ENV{HOME}';
/home/afarber

Does anybody please have a suggestion here?

Thank you
Alex
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Re: [CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-17 Thread Keith Roberts
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Akemi Yagi wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD
 
 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net wrote:

 I had already installed the packages mentioned in the Centos
 wiki.

 I assume you are referring to this wiki:

 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetupRpmBuildEnvironment

 If not, I strongly recommend reading it through. Up front it warns you
 to not do the build as root. It provides the details for setting up
 the build environment which will help you understand the whole
 process. Installing some rpms may be convenient but you may miss the
 chance of learning. :-)

I have followed the above tutorial, which was well written, 
and easy to understand.

Then I started on this one, linked to from the above Wiki 
page:

Building Source RPM as non-root under CentOS

http://www.owlriver.com/tips/non-root/

Got up to here:

Let's build something -- As a simple example, we have a 
local SRPM copy of the 'joe' text editor at a permanent 
location (backup is here). Let's get a copy and build it as 
non root [we have numbered the lines, so that we may refer 
to specifics after we are done]:

1 [herr...@dhcp-233 ~]$ cd
2 [herr...@dhcp-233 ~]$ mkdir build
3 [herr...@dhcp-233 ~]$ cd build
4 [herr...@dhcp-233 build]$ mkdir joe
5 [herr...@dhcp-233 build]$ cd joe
6 [herr...@dhcp-233 joe]$ joe README
7 [herr...@dhcp-233 joe]$ wget 
ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/mirror/ORC/joe/joe-2.9.8-4.src.rpm
8 [herr...@dhcp-233 joe]$ rpmbuild --rebuild 
joe-2.9.8-4.src.rpm

In reviewing the commands above, we did this:

1. Move to the home directory
2. Make the ~/build/ subdirectory
3. Move into the ~/build/ subdirectory
4. Make the ~/build/joe/ subdirectory
5. Move into ~/build/joe/ subdirectory
6. Update our notes in the README
7. Retrieve the SRPM using wget
8. Build the binary RPM

When we inspect: ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/i386/ we find the binary 
file: joe-2.9.8-4.i386.rpm

...

and the build process works OK! I had to install 
ncurses-devel (did that as root) for joe to build OK.

Then I did my new sox program, which built fine first 
time. So I well pleased to have rebuilt 2 src.rpm files.

Now I know my build environment works OK, I can try 
building some other packages, by editing their spec files.

Thanks to everyone for all the help I received with this.

Looks like there might be another third party Centos repo 
on the horizon soon ;)

I guess I'll get my head down with another pass at 
MaximumRPM now.

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts

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Re: [CentOS] Passing LD_LIBRARY_PATH through sudo

2010-12-17 Thread James Pearson
Alexander Farber wrote:
 
 Still my test call fails:
 
 afar...@vm:~ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 /usr/lib/oracle/11.2/client64
 afar...@vm:~ sudo -E perl -e 'print $ENV{LD_LIBRARY_PATH}';
 afar...@vm:~
 afar...@vm:~ sudo -E perl -e 'print $ENV{HOME}';
 /home/afarber
 
 Does anybody please have a suggestion here?

Have you tried:

sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/oracle/11.2/client64 perl -e 'print 
$ENV{LD_LIBRARY_PATH}'

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Re: [CentOS] Passing LD_LIBRARY_PATH through sudo

2010-12-17 Thread Alexander Farber
This one works, thank you
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[CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Dear centos community,
I was in the process of loading the latest 5.5 release of centos in a VMWARE 
ESX 4.1 host as my first virtual machine, suddenly while booting I got a panic 
error with the following on screen. Can someone point me in the right 
direction. This machine has 24 cores and I allocated 1 for Centos to use with 
1024MB of memory. Any clues or workaround to solve this problem? Thank you in 
advance. 

Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0040 RIP:
 [] cpuid4_cache_lookup+0x256/0x356
PGD 0
Oops:  [1] SMP
last sysfs file:
CPU 0
Modules linked in:
Pid: 1, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.18-194.el5 #1
RIP: 0010:[]  [] cpuid4_cache_lookup+0x256/6
RSP: :81010fc75d60  EFLAGS: 00010246
RAX:  RBX: 0060 RCX: 06aa
RDX:  RSI: 0060 RDI: 0003
RBP: 81010f765580 R08: 0001 R09: 0040
R10: 81010fc75cf0 R11: 0060 R12: 0080
R13:  R14:  R15: 0003
FS:  () GS:803cb000() knlGS:
CS:  0010 DS: 0018 ES: 0018 CR0: 8005003b
CR2: 0040 CR3: 00201000 CR4: 06e0
Process swapper (pid: 1, threadinfo 81010fc74000, task 81010fc657a0)
Stack:  81010fc75e00 00028f765ec0  
 40020140 00d0 810140020140 0286
 06a9  17c0003f 
Call Trace:
 [] cacheinfo_cpu_callback+0xe9/0x516
 [] cacheinfo_cpu_callback+0x134/0x516
 [] cache_sysfs_init+0x39/0x54
 [] init+0x1f9/0x2f7
 [] child_rip+0xa/0x11
 [] acpi_ds_init_one_object+0x0/0x80
 [] init+0x0/0x2f7
 [] child_rip+0x0/0x11




Code: 8b 72 40 48 8d 4c 24 1c 48 8b 7a 20 ba c4 01 00 00 e8 5f 77
RIP  [] cpuid4_cache_lookup+0x256/0x356
 RSP 
CR2: 0040
 0Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception


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[CentOS] CentOS 5.5 Sofware RAID1

2010-12-17 Thread Matt
I have the CentOS 5.5 install DVD and trying to install with software
RAID1 on two 2TB SATA drives.  The CentOS install only sees one drive.
 This is a Supermicro motherboard with fakeraid turned off in bios.

I tried the trick like so:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64

Still no go.  linux rescue console does see both sda and sdb.  Whats going on?
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 Sofware RAID1

2010-12-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
When you boot does the OS see both drives, if so, why not configure using LVM.

 Matt  12/17/10 6:29 PM 
I have the CentOS 5.5 install DVD and trying to install with software
RAID1 on two 2TB SATA drives.  The CentOS install only sees one drive.
 This is a Supermicro motherboard with fakeraid turned off in bios.

I tried the trick like so:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64

Still no go.  linux rescue console does see both sda and sdb.  Whats going on?
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Lisandro Grullon
lgrul...@citytech.cuny.edu wrote:
 Dear centos community,
 I was in the process of loading the latest 5.5 release of centos in a VMWARE
 ESX 4.1 host as my first virtual machine, suddenly while booting I got a
 panic error with the following on screen. Can someone point me in the right
 direction. This machine has 24 cores and I allocated 1 for Centos to use
 with 1024MB of memory. Any clues or workaround to solve this problem? Thank
 you in advance.

Have you verified your download?  I run RHEL5.5 in ESX 4.1 without issue.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Tru Huynh
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:23:52PM -0500, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
 Dear centos community,
 I was in the process of loading the latest 5.5 release of centos in a VMWARE 
 ESX 4.1 host as my first virtual machine, suddenly while booting I got a 
 panic error with the following on screen. Can someone point me in the right 
 direction. This machine has 24 cores and I allocated 1 for Centos to use with 
 1024MB of memory. Any clues or workaround to solve this problem? Thank you in 
 advance. 
maybe you are hitting: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4581

Tru

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Tru, you nailed it right. I will load Ubuntu and Debian and will report back, 
this may be a bug in the loading process. I did install this system with Centos 
by itself and it load ok, but the virtual machine its not loading and it just 
keep crashing with the same error as the bug you provided/posted. Maybe someone 
can shine some light on this. Thank you.

 Tru Huynh  12/17/10 6:47 PM 
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:23:52PM -0500, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
 Dear centos community,
 I was in the process of loading the latest 5.5 release of centos in a VMWARE 
 ESX 4.1 host as my first virtual machine, suddenly while booting I got a 
 panic error with the following on screen. Can someone point me in the right 
 direction. This machine has 24 cores and I allocated 1 for Centos to use with 
 1024MB of memory. Any clues or workaround to solve this problem? Thank you in 
 advance. 
maybe you are hitting: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4581

Tru

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[CentOS] Best way to set up for PHP websites

2010-12-17 Thread Ruslan Sivak
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I am looking to set up a CentOS server for hosting a high traffic PHP
site (specifically Drupal 6).

I am trying to figure out what's the best way of setting up PHP.  The
standard mod_php seems to not be a good solution, as it requires apache
to be in the prefork configuration, due to PHP not being thread safe.

Something like mod_fcgi seems to be the way to go, but I can't seem to
find a good guide on setting it up.

I installed Zend Server, but seems like they are only supporting FastCGI
for Apache on Windows, and only mod_php on Linux.

Their admin control panel is using lighttpd and mod_fcgi on Linux.  I
getting it to work with Apache, but am having issues with the missing
mysqli libraries.

Is it recommended to use mod_fcgi on CentOS?  Is there a way to get it
to work with Zend Server?

If not, should I try to get things working with lighttpd?  I'm not sure
how easy it would be to set up a config to work with Drupal.

Russ



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Tru, looks like a bug in centos, I just loaded RHEL 6 without any issues. I 
dont think it has something to do with the actual image file, but in any case 
maybe I should re-download the entire DVD again just to make sure. Thank you 
Tru.

 Tru Huynh  12/17/10 6:47 PM 
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 06:23:52PM -0500, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
 Dear centos community,
 I was in the process of loading the latest 5.5 release of centos in a VMWARE 
 ESX 4.1 host as my first virtual machine, suddenly while booting I got a 
 panic error with the following on screen. Can someone point me in the right 
 direction. This machine has 24 cores and I allocated 1 for Centos to use with 
 1024MB of memory. Any clues or workaround to solve this problem? Thank you in 
 advance. 
maybe you are hitting: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4581

Tru

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Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread David G. Mackay

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:38 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote:
 On 17/12/10 18:24, Scott Robbins wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote:
  On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote:
 
I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and
  I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support.
 
  What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit 
  of using CentOS instead?
  
  Fedora will break things.  They're still, in many ways, figuring out
  what they are, but they do serve as a test bed, or perhaps development
  platform, for various things that aren't ready for prime time.
 
 I so often hear that Fedora breaks things.  I've been running F-11 and
 F-12 on a server as KVM host, without issues.  I've been using F8-F13 on
 several computers (3 laptops and a workstation), and I can't really say
 it has broken anything on my setups.  It might be I'm not using it
 right to experience such breakage.  Use cases are everything from
 mail, surf and OO.org to development tasks

Really?  I've been running KVM on Fedora for quite a few releases.
NetworkManager has been something of a nightmare on several releases
when dealing with VMs.  Especially if you were doing bridging.  Fedora
has a slightly schizophrenic group of publicists.  There are folks that
insist that they are stable, and there are folks that tell you that they
are the leading edge.  If you scan the Fedora devel lists, it's not hard
to find discussions between developers noting that they'll have to force
users to use a particular new feature so that it will get properly
tested (i.e. it's so freaking buggy that no one would use it unless
forced to use it).  That said, I use Fedora for my development systems,
but CentOS for my production systems.

 In fact, for me, Fedora has been way more stable and solid than the time
 I was running Ubuntu (from Gibson to Ibix), where I got worried every
 time there were new updates available.
 
 But rightfully enough, I've never tried CentOS on the desktop.  Maybe
 CentOS 6 will be a good choice for that.

Depends on what you want for your desktop.  There are a lot of things,
like video, etc., that CentOS just lags too far behind.

Dave


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Re: [CentOS] Best way to set up for PHP websites

2010-12-17 Thread Rainer Duffner

Am 18.12.2010 um 01:09 schrieb Ruslan Sivak:

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 I am looking to set up a CentOS server for hosting a high traffic PHP
 site (specifically Drupal 6).




AFAIK, the optimal solution is to run the latest php5.3-series as php- 
fpm with NGINX.
It offers the best performance for the dynamic part.

If you got it working, research about using varnish http cache in  
front of Drupal.

High-traffic sites with Drupal require significant effort and a deep  
understanding of the inner workings of Drupal and the modules and  
extensions you use.


And unless there's repository out there that has all this for CentOS,  
it may not be the right platform.



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Lisandro Grullon
lgrul...@citytech.cuny.edu wrote:
 Tru, looks like a bug in centos, I just loaded RHEL 6 without any issues. I
 dont think it has something to do with the actual image file, but in any
 case maybe I should re-download the entire DVD again just to make sure.
 Thank you Tru.

 Tru Huynh t...@centos.org 12/17/10 6:47 PM 

 maybe you are hitting: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4581

 Tru

This is not a CentOS bug. As stated in the KB articles quoted in the bug report:

https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-31516
https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-38013

the patch is in the kernel-2.6.18-194.3.1 and onward. CentOS/RHEL 5.5
comes with kernel-2.6.18-194 which has the bug.  RHEL-6's kernel is
much newer at 2.6.32-71, so it does not have this bug.

Therefore to get around this issue, as suggested in one of the KB
articles, you first install CentOS *5.4* and then update it to the
current kernel thus skipping the problematic kernel.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Akemi,
I went through the different  mirrors and was unable to locate the ISO as it is 
stated as deprecated or unsupported, is there any plans to fix this issue in 
5.6 or rather 6.x release. It appears that the latest build from Centos was 
built back in may, lots of bugs have emerge since them including this one 
relating to a kernel panic. Please advise in the location of 5.4, i am willing 
to try it. 

 Akemi Yagi  12/17/10 7:56 PM 
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Lisandro Grullon
 wrote:
 Tru, looks like a bug in centos, I just loaded RHEL 6 without any issues. I
 dont think it has something to do with the actual image file, but in any
 case maybe I should re-download the entire DVD again just to make sure.
 Thank you Tru.

 Tru Huynh  12/17/10 6:47 PM 

 maybe you are hitting: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4581

 Tru

This is not a CentOS bug. As stated in the KB articles quoted in the bug report:

https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-31516
https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-38013

the patch is in the kernel-2.6.18-194.3.1 and onward. CentOS/RHEL 5.5
comes with kernel-2.6.18-194 which has the bug.  RHEL-6's kernel is
much newer at 2.6.32-71, so it does not have this bug.

Therefore to get around this issue, as suggested in one of the KB
articles, you first install CentOS *5.4* and then update it to the
current kernel thus skipping the problematic kernel.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Best way to set up for PHP websites

2010-12-17 Thread Ruslan Sivak
Is there a how-to somewhere on getting php running with nginx?  I would love
to get that working.

I am already planning on using nginx as a front end to varnish for
compression, and varnish for  caching and load balancing.  I just really
want to get good performance out of the dynamic php part and mod_php isn't
it.  I considered using quercus for a while, but it doesn't seem to work
properly with drupal.

Russ
On Dec 17, 2010 7:43 PM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:

 Am 18.12.2010 um 01:09 schrieb Ruslan Sivak:

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 I am looking to set up a CentOS server for hosting a high traffic PHP
 site (specifically Drupal 6).




 AFAIK, the optimal solution is to run the latest php5.3-series as php-
 fpm with NGINX.
 It offers the best performance for the dynamic part.

 If you got it working, research about using varnish http cache in
 front of Drupal.

 High-traffic sites with Drupal require significant effort and a deep
 understanding of the inner workings of Drupal and the modules and
 extensions you use.


 And unless there's repository out there that has all this for CentOS,
 it may not be the right platform.



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Lisandro Grullon
lgrul...@citytech.cuny.edu wrote:
 Akemi,
 I went through the different  mirrors and was unable to locate the ISO as it
 is stated as deprecated or unsupported, is there any plans to fix this issue
 in 5.6 or rather 6.x release. It appears that the latest build from Centos
 was built back in may, lots of bugs have emerge since them including this
 one relating to a kernel panic. Please advise in the location of 5.4, i am
 willing to try it.

It's here:

http://vault.centos.org/5.4/

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Best way to set up for PHP websites

2010-12-17 Thread Cia Watson
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:09:44 -0500
Ruslan Sivak r...@vshift.com wrote:

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 I am looking to set up a CentOS server for hosting a high traffic PHP
 site (specifically Drupal 6).
 
 I am trying to figure out what's the best way of setting up PHP.  The
 standard mod_php seems to not be a good solution, as it requires
 apache to be in the prefork configuration, due to PHP not being
 thread safe.
 
 Something like mod_fcgi seems to be the way to go, but I can't seem to
 find a good guide on setting it up.
 
 I installed Zend Server, but seems like they are only supporting
 FastCGI for Apache on Windows, and only mod_php on Linux.
 
 Their admin control panel is using lighttpd and mod_fcgi on Linux.  I
 getting it to work with Apache, but am having issues with the missing
 mysqli libraries.
 
 Is it recommended to use mod_fcgi on CentOS?  Is there a way to get it
 to work with Zend Server?
 
 If not, should I try to get things working with lighttpd?  I'm not
 sure how easy it would be to set up a config to work with Drupal.

I have a Drupal website, and I originally set up my site
running on localhost on my laptop using lighttpd, it worked fine for a
localhost. At the time my 'live' site was hosted by an outfit that was
using IIS, I'm now with a host that uses RHEL 5 and Apache. And I
currently use Apache as my localhost server also; since I decided to
set up a few virtual hosts for testing and they were much easier to
figure out how to make it work on Apache than lighttpd. (Maybe because
there were more examples online. )

This is the tutorial I used for my first setup with lighttpd, and though
it's a bit dated it's still workable. It came up as the third result
when I just searched install lighttpd and php:
http://www.howtoforge.com/lighttpd_php5_mysql_fedora7

I've never actually configured php, I just install the files (including
php-mbstring), and create a user for mysql and extract the Drupal files
to the docroot and I'm good to go. If it's a high-traffic site others
may have more specifics about php to add... for me the defaults have
worked fine.  HTH.
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Re: [CentOS] Best way to set up for PHP websites

2010-12-17 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/17/10 9:30 AM, Cia Watson wrote:
 I've never actually configured php, I just install the files (including
 php-mbstring), and create a user for mysql and extract the Drupal files
 to the docroot and I'm good to go. If it's a high-traffic site others
 may have more specifics about php to add... for me the defaults have
 worked fine.  HTH.

drupal really hammers on your database too.  you need a well tuned and 
optimized mysql or postgres configuration to run it, and you likely want 
to use some form of SQL cache (memcached etc), since drupal will make 
the same queries over and over and over again.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Lisandro Grullon
Akemi,
Why is the vault download like a snail, I usually download 2-3MB/s from the 
mirrors, but this one your provide only getting 12-15Kbps. Is there anything 
faster?

 Akemi Yagi  12/17/10 8:13 PM 
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Lisandro Grullon
 wrote:
 Akemi,
 I went through the different  mirrors and was unable to locate the ISO as it
 is stated as deprecated or unsupported, is there any plans to fix this issue
 in 5.6 or rather 6.x release. It appears that the latest build from Centos
 was built back in may, lots of bugs have emerge since them including this
 one relating to a kernel panic. Please advise in the location of 5.4, i am
 willing to try it.

It's here:

http://vault.centos.org/5.4/

Akemi

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 - Kernel Panic while booting.

2010-12-17 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Lisandro Grullon
lgrul...@citytech.cuny.edu wrote:
 Akemi,
 Why is the vault download like a snail, I usually download 2-3MB/s from the
 mirrors, but this one your provide only getting 12-15Kbps. Is there anything
 faster?

 It's here:

 http://vault.centos.org/5.4/

How about this one?

http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.4/isos/

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] How to strip out the title bar from xterm windows on CentOS 5 GNOME?

2010-12-17 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Aleksey Tsalolikhin
atsaloli.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.  Running CentOS 5 with the default GNOME desktop.  Is it possible
 to configure xterm windows not to have title bars to get the most out of
 the available screenspace?

The presence and appearance of title bars (except for the text
content) are controlled by the window manager, not by the application
framed in the window.  In the case of the standard Gnome desktop, that
application is metacity.  So you need to look for how to configure
title bars in metacity, not for title bars of xterm.

I don't know if it's possible to arrange for only a particular
application's windows to omit the title bars.  There's a general theme
tutorial here:

http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 mixing with i386 rpms

2010-12-17 Thread Johan Scheepers
Robert Heller wrote:
 At Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:23:36 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:
 
 Good day,

 What will happen if on x86_64 some i386 rpms get installed, please.
 
 Depends.  It is in fact *normal* for i[3456]86 *libraries* to be
 installed on a CentOS/RHEL x86_64 system (many are installed by
 default).  It is possible to also install i[3456]86 *programs* as well,
 and this works just fine, since A) the x86_64 kernel/program loader is
 just as happy to run 32-bit programs as to run 64-bit programs and B)
 the various i[3456]86 *libraries* are also generally (or can be)
 installed.  Installing a i686 *kernel* or *kernel module* is pretty
 much useless, unless you reboot with the 32-bit kernel.  At which point
 your *64-bit* programs won't work :-(.  You don't want to do that.  For
 some programs/packages, installing the 32-bit version might be ill
 advised, but I don't think things will necessarily break.
 
 What you should *not* do is try to upgrade a 32-bit OS to 64-bit: you
 should *always* do a 'fresh install' if/when you do that.  Make a backup of
 your /etc and /home and maybe things like /var/www and /var/ftp, dump
 your MySQL/Progress/OpenLDAP databases, etc., unless that stuff is on a
 separate file system.
 
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Thanks for your time to explain.

This happened while I was installing multimedia plugins.

I keep to the official repos for usual updates.

Regards
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 x86_64 mixing with i386 rpms

2010-12-17 Thread Johan Scheepers
Nicolas Ross wrote:
 Good day,

 What will happen if on x86_64 some i386 rpms get installed, please.
 Thanks
 Johan
 
 You'll need some libraries, like libstdc++ in i686 version, but they'll be 
 installed and they'll run.
 
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This happened while installing multimedia.

Now I feel better. It was not too important rpms.
  Thanks for your time
Regards
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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread cpolish
Les Mikesell wrote:

snip

 To overgeneralize, that's one of the big differences between free and
 commercial software.  Commercial software that has a customer base
 that they can't afford to lose will rarely break backwards
 compatibility, or if they do, they'll provide conversion tools to
 manage the migration.

snip

Either you never dealt with Apple abruptly terminating support
for your hardware - the CPU for instance - or the memory was so painful
that you blocked it out :). On the flip side, Apple fans seem to be 
unusually resiliant. I'm not bitter...
-- 
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Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread cpolish
Lamar Owen wrote:
 Where do people get this?  On one of my up to date CentOS 5 VM's:
 [r...@zoneminder1 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
 CentOS release 5.5 (Final)
 [r...@zoneminder1 ~]# rpm -qi firefox
 Name: firefox  Relocations: (not relocatable)
 Version : 3.6.13Vendor: CentOS

snip

(Nod). Wish I had time to work on Scott Shawcroft's distrology
(http://www.oswatershed.org/) to add Red Hat and CentOS to the
evaluations. The ability to compare current metrics ranking
distribution package freshness is pretty cool.

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Re: [CentOS] Best way to set up for PHP websites

2010-12-17 Thread Geoff Galitz


Is there a how-to somewhere on getting php running with nginx?  I would love 
to get that working.  

http://wiki.nginx.org/PHPFcgiExample



We have around a dozen systems running in this configuration and it works well. 
 They are among our lowest maintenance and highest performing sites that we 
have.   Note that there is an fcgi package available (in EPEL, possibly also in 
rpmforge) which takes care of most of the configuration for you.  You primarily 
need to pay attention to the nginx config and then make sure the fcgi service 
is running.

Good luck.






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