Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 32 Bits install.

2020-01-24 Thread Anthony K

On 13/1/20 2:54 am, Ger van Dijck wrote:


Hi all,



Question : Can I install Centos7 32 Bits on a computer i386 32 bits 
little indian pentium III Copermine Model8 Cpufamily 6 CpuMhz 863.979 
(lscpu) grep -i pae /proc/cpuinfo gives a flag pae .

...


Here's an alternative if CentOS performance is not satisfactory on that 
computer.


I believe Elive [0] was created for exactly your aged computer.When you 
visit [1] below, take a look at the section titled "*Fast Dinosaurs!*" 
where they have a few YouTube videos showing old computers running 
Elive.  One video in particular: "*Pentium-II, 266 Mhz, 64 MB of RAM, 
12GB HD Toshiba 4080xcdt -- Running Elive!*"


It took about 3 minutes to get to the GUI.  However, the point here is 
that /*if*/ Elive runs on a Pentium-II @ 266Mhz, it ought to run quite 
well on a Pentium-III @ +860Mhz.


[0]: https://www.elivecd.org/
[1]: https://www.elivecd.org/user-reviews/

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Re: [CentOS] yum update / kernal update failed - remove or repair

2020-01-24 Thread Anthony K

On 25/1/20 11:56 am, Anthony K wrote:


[0]: https://anindya.me/2011/09/17/grub-fallback-after-kernel-panic/

I've just discovered that the article I posted is a rather old post so 
went hunting.


If you have a RHEL subscription (I'm using the free developer 
subscription) you can see the official Red Hat documentation at [0].  I 
was unable to find similar instructions for CentOS but here's a post of 
the same vintage as the RHEL one [1].


[0]: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1567883
[1]: https://forums.centos.org/viewtopic.php?t=60220

PS: I haven't tested either of these so no idea if they work as one 
would expect.


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Re: [CentOS] yum update / kernal update failed - remove or repair

2020-01-24 Thread Anthony K

On 23/1/20 12:44 am, Gary Stainburn wrote:

...
As I will probably only have one chance to fix this (without having to get the 
ISP's help again) I was wondering if there are any clear instructions on how to 
remove a failed kernel RPM update, returning the server to the state it was in 
prior to the YUM update?
...
If you do not want to involve the ISP ever again when a kernel won't 
boot, you can configure a fallback kernel [0].  I've used something 
similar a very long time ago when the main boot loader was LILO - it was 
much easier to do this kind of thing with it.


[0]: https://anindya.me/2011/09/17/grub-fallback-after-kernel-panic/


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 Lyx - installing templates and class files

2020-01-24 Thread Noam Bernstein via CentOS
Can you use
yum whatprovides FILE_GLOB
to figure out which package provides the particular class files that seem 
relevant?
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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/24/20 4:38 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I installed on my workstation C8.1 (1911) and performed a minimal install and
> then installed XFCE from EPEL.
> 
> I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted default). If I
> try ,from normal user shell, to run command like "reboot" or "shutdown -h now"
> system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty console, on xfce terminal and
> ssh session.
> 
> My user is not in wheel and during install I have not enabled checkbox to give
> that user administration permission. I tried to create a new user with adduser
> but got the same problem.
> 
> To solve this I modified polkit login1 policy on
> /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy setting
> no for statement that concern reboot and
> shutdown/poweroff.
> 
> Why on CentOS a normal user can shutdown the system without root privileges? I
> think that on any server normal user should not be able to shutdown the system
> without privileges.
> 
> This is a bug or a wanted default?

So, as you figured out from the polkit setting - "active" user's (i.e. with a
"seat") have access to shut a machine down.  Now to figure out who has a seat
- and you use "loginctl" to see that.  For e.g. from my non-privileged user
logged into my CentOS 8.1 VM via ssh:

$ loginctl
SESSION   UID USER  SEAT TTY
  1 # user

it shows that I don't have a "seat" and so:

$ shutdown -h now
Failed to set wall message, ignoring: Connection timed out
Failed to power off system via logind: Interactive authentication required.
Failed to open initctl fifo: Permission denied
Failed to talk to init daemon.

as expected.  Perhaps you can start tracking down with loginctl who has a seat
and why.

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[CentOS] Centos 7 Lyx - installing templates and class files

2020-01-24 Thread Frank Cox
I'm not kind of an expert using Lyx, but I occasionally do some "structured 
writing" and on those occasions I've really enjoyed using Lyx; the workflow and 
the output just can't be beat.

I'm enough of a novice with it that I've never used anything other than the 
"Article (Standard Class)" document class.

I wrote a short paper using Lyx and the "Article (Standard Class)" last night, 
and after finishing that I started playing around with Lyx in an effort to 
learn more about it since I really believe that I'm drastically under-utilizing 
an extremely powerful program.

I have a question about the template and class files.

When I use "File - New from Template" I get a large list of files in the 
/usr/share/lyx/templates/ directory, all of which seem to have come from the 
lyx-common rpm.  When I select one of these templates, some of them work but 
some of them say something like: "The selected document class requires external 
files that are not available.  The document class cannot be compiled until the 
following prerequisites are installed: XXX.cls" (where XXX is usually a name 
related somehow to the name of the template).

Searching for the XXX.

Same thing if I just use "File - New" and then look at Document - Settings - 
Document Class".  There are all kinds of document classes listed but about 75% 
of them are grayed out and unselectable.

It appears that lyx-common installs all kinds of templates but not the cls 
files that are needed to actually use them.  It would be nice to somehow enable 
all of these templates and document classes so I could play around with them a 
bit.

Some google searching has led to some fairly contradictory information about 
how this all works.

One suggestion that I came across was to simply install all of the available 
texlive rpms and that will install all of the missing files.  rpm tells me that 
I currently have 216 texlive* rpms on my computer, and yum says that there are 
688 texlive* rpms available so there are apparently another 472 texlive rpms 
that I don't actually have installed.

Before I install 472 more rpms on this computer I would like to ask any of you 
fine folks who use lyx if this is indeed the right way to go about this, or if 
I'm barking up the wrong tree here?

How do you get the rest of the files that Lyx needs to be able to use that long 
list of (unavailable) document classes and templates?

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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Il 24/01/20 15:44, Pete Biggs ha scritto:

I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted
default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like "reboot"
or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty
console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.

I've just created a normal user on my test system and when I try to
reboot or halt the system when logged in via ssh I get:

$ reboot
Failed to set wall message, ignoring: Interactive authentication required.
Failed to reboot system via logind: Interactive authentication required.
Failed to open initctl fifo: Permission denied
Failed to talk to init daemon.

Which is correct behaviour.


Hi Pete,

Yes this is what I expect, but I'm trying to understand why on a fresh 
installation on a VM, this happens on ssh without user logged in or from 
console as normal user? I tried the installation several times and with 
several ISO but nothing changed. On every fresh installation I have not 
installed other packages and not enabled networking.


If you have the time, please can you try to install from 8.1 iso using 
minimal installation and try again?


I know that you struggle to believe my problem but I don't know how to 
prove this.



However, a user logged in at the machine as GUI console session has
always been able to halt or reboot the system.


This does not happen only on my xfce system but on system on VM without 
a GUI.






Why on CentOS a normal user can shutdown the system without root
privileges? I think that on any server normal user should not be able to
shutdown the system without privileges.


If it's a desktop machine, then the console logged in user should be
able to shutdown the machine - at least then it means they don't resort
to pulling the plug.


...



Presumably you don't allow users physically near
a server?


No, but this happen also in ssh session.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Alessandro Baggi



Il 24/01/20 15:47, Simon Matter via CentOS ha scritto:

Il 24/01/20 15:11, Simon Matter via CentOS ha scritto:

Hi list,

I installed on my workstation C8.1 (1911) and performed a minimal
install and then installed XFCE from EPEL.

I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted
default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like
"reboot"
or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty
console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.

But can you describe exactly in which situation user x can shutdown? I
mean, if you say via ssh connection, is it that user x is at the same
time
also logged in into XFCE desktop on the same system? Or is it also true
if
the only login to the system at this time is via the ssh connection and
then user x is still able to shutdown?

I mean if user x runs the XFCE session remote on the system using ssh
X11
forwarding, NX or whatever, then user x should really NOT be able to
shutdown without providing the root password. That would be a nightmare
for multi user systems :-)

Regards,
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Hi Simon,

I tried on my system using XFCE, I tried with a fresh installation on vm
without X (using minimal and server installation), inside ssh
with/without user logged and from tty console.

Try to reproduce it. Install C8 on a VM using minimal installation,
login in as normal user an type reboot.

Well, I didn't install C8 yet but do you say that if do a fresh server
type install of C8 on a host, add an unprivileged user, login via ssh to
the user account on the host, you can reboot then?


This is what is happening to my C8 installation on VM or physical 
server. If you can confirm this, the only thing that remains to 
understand is if this is a bug or a default policy. If not, there is 
something wrong in my fresh installation but I cannot identify what.



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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
>
>> I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted
>> default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like "reboot"
>> or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty
>> console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.
>
> I've just created a normal user on my test system and when I try to
> reboot or halt the system when logged in via ssh I get:
>
>$ reboot
>Failed to set wall message, ignoring: Interactive authentication
> required.
>Failed to reboot system via logind: Interactive authentication
> required.
>Failed to open initctl fifo: Permission denied
>Failed to talk to init daemon.
>
> Which is correct behaviour.
>
> However, a user logged in at the machine as GUI console session has
> always been able to halt or reboot the system.
>
>>
>> Why on CentOS a normal user can shutdown the system without root
>> privileges? I think that on any server normal user should not be able to
>> shutdown the system without privileges.
>>
> If it's a desktop machine, then the console logged in user should be
> able to shutdown the machine - at least then it means they don't resort
> to pulling the plug.  Presumably you don't allow users physically near
> a server?

That's why I asked if the user who was logged in via ssh was also logged
in locally at the same time. That would at lest explain such behavior.

Regards,
Simon

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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
>
> Il 24/01/20 15:11, Simon Matter via CentOS ha scritto:
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I installed on my workstation C8.1 (1911) and performed a minimal
>>> install and then installed XFCE from EPEL.
>>>
>>> I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted
>>> default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like
>>> "reboot"
>>> or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty
>>> console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.
>> But can you describe exactly in which situation user x can shutdown? I
>> mean, if you say via ssh connection, is it that user x is at the same
>> time
>> also logged in into XFCE desktop on the same system? Or is it also true
>> if
>> the only login to the system at this time is via the ssh connection and
>> then user x is still able to shutdown?
>>
>> I mean if user x runs the XFCE session remote on the system using ssh
>> X11
>> forwarding, NX or whatever, then user x should really NOT be able to
>> shutdown without providing the root password. That would be a nightmare
>> for multi user systems :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Simon
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> Hi Simon,
>
> I tried on my system using XFCE, I tried with a fresh installation on vm
> without X (using minimal and server installation), inside ssh
> with/without user logged and from tty console.
>
> Try to reproduce it. Install C8 on a VM using minimal installation,
> login in as normal user an type reboot.

Well, I didn't install C8 yet but do you say that if do a fresh server
type install of C8 on a host, add an unprivileged user, login via ssh to
the user account on the host, you can reboot then?

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Pete Biggs


> I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted 
> default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like "reboot" 
> or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty 
> console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.

I've just created a normal user on my test system and when I try to
reboot or halt the system when logged in via ssh I get:

   $ reboot
   Failed to set wall message, ignoring: Interactive authentication required.
   Failed to reboot system via logind: Interactive authentication required.
   Failed to open initctl fifo: Permission denied
   Failed to talk to init daemon.

Which is correct behaviour.

However, a user logged in at the machine as GUI console session has
always been able to halt or reboot the system.

> 
> Why on CentOS a normal user can shutdown the system without root 
> privileges? I think that on any server normal user should not be able to 
> shutdown the system without privileges.
> 
If it's a desktop machine, then the console logged in user should be
able to shutdown the machine - at least then it means they don't resort
to pulling the plug.  Presumably you don't allow users physically near
a server?

P.


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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Alessandro Baggi



Il 24/01/20 15:11, Simon Matter via CentOS ha scritto:

Hi list,

I installed on my workstation C8.1 (1911) and performed a minimal
install and then installed XFCE from EPEL.

I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted
default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like "reboot"
or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty
console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.

But can you describe exactly in which situation user x can shutdown? I
mean, if you say via ssh connection, is it that user x is at the same time
also logged in into XFCE desktop on the same system? Or is it also true if
the only login to the system at this time is via the ssh connection and
then user x is still able to shutdown?

I mean if user x runs the XFCE session remote on the system using ssh X11
forwarding, NX or whatever, then user x should really NOT be able to
shutdown without providing the root password. That would be a nightmare
for multi user systems :-)

Regards,
Simon

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Hi Simon,

I tried on my system using XFCE, I tried with a fresh installation on vm 
without X (using minimal and server installation), inside ssh 
with/without user logged and from tty console.


Try to reproduce it. Install C8 on a VM using minimal installation, 
login in as normal user an type reboot.




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Re: [CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> Hi list,
>
> I installed on my workstation C8.1 (1911) and performed a minimal
> install and then installed XFCE from EPEL.
>
> I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted
> default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like "reboot"
> or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty
> console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.

But can you describe exactly in which situation user x can shutdown? I
mean, if you say via ssh connection, is it that user x is at the same time
also logged in into XFCE desktop on the same system? Or is it also true if
the only login to the system at this time is via the ssh connection and
then user x is still able to shutdown?

I mean if user x runs the XFCE session remote on the system using ssh X11
forwarding, NX or whatever, then user x should really NOT be able to
shutdown without providing the root password. That would be a nightmare
for multi user systems :-)

Regards,
Simon

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Re: [CentOS] (SOLVED) YUM (DNF) Possible Confusion Centos 8

2020-01-24 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> 
>
>
>>The redhat access page comes up in both google and duckduckgo when I put
>>in the entire 4 lines of the error message.  You still have to login to
>>see the solution.
>>
>>https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=+Problem+1%3A+conflicting+requests+++-+nothing+provides+module%28perl%3A5.26%29+needed+by+module+perl-DBD-SQLite%3A1.58%3A8010020190322125518%3A073fa5fe-0.x86_64++Problem+2%3A+conflicting+requests+++-+nothing+provides+module%28perl%3A5.26%29+needed+by+module+perl-DBI%3A1.641%3A8010020190322130042%3A16b3ab4d-0.x86_64&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>>
>>Other than that you could create a login on the redhat site and register
>>as a developer (free of charge) and have access to some of their online
>>resources including the access knowledgebase.
>>
>>I am mostly a CentOS user, and installed redhat 8 so I could start
>>working on my applications before CentOS 8 was released.
>>
>>
>>Nataraj
>
> I have a free subscription, but still can't get to the solution page.  Oh
> well.

I've never really understood how hiding those solutions behind a wall is a
good thing in/for the OpenSource world. Looks like I'm not alone :-)

Simon

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Re: [CentOS] yum update / kernal update failed - remove or repair

2020-01-24 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Thursday 23 January 2020 15:22:32 Simon Matter via CentOS wrote:
> >
> > Before you try the update again, you'll have to fix the reason for the
> > failure - add memory, or at least add a swap file.
> >
> > You could check with
> > rpm -qa --last | head -20
> > which the latest packages are that were installed.
> >
> > If the rpm database is corrupted, rebuild it with
> > rpm --rebuilddb
> >
> > You can reinstall packages that may not be completely installed, using
> > rpm --reinstall PACKAGE_FILE
> 
> Well, there may be more to check and above steps may not help.
> 
> Do you have duplicates in rpmdb? Which one of the duplicates are already
> on the filesystem?

I do not believe that I have any duplicate RPM's installed, and I do not 
believe that the database is actually wrong. I believe that it is purely that 
the installs did not complete successfully.

I have managed to remove the latest kernel RPM and 'yum update kernel*' 
re-applied the update without errors.

I am going to go through the list of failed RPM's and to a 'rpm --reinstall' 
for each one in turn and hopefully they will work too.

Before doing that I will do as Kay suggested and find out why I had the memory 
problem in the first place.
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[CentOS] C8 Question

2020-01-24 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Hi list,

I installed on my workstation C8.1 (1911) and performed a minimal 
install and then installed XFCE from EPEL.


I noticed a strange behaviour (don't know if this is the wanted 
default). If I try ,from normal user shell, to run command like "reboot" 
or "shutdown -h now" system will reboot/shutdown. This happens on tty 
console, on xfce terminal and ssh session.


My user is not in wheel and during install I have not enabled checkbox 
to give that user administration permission. I tried to create a new 
user with adduser but got the same problem.


To solve this I modified polkit login1 policy on 
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy setting 
no for statement that concern reboot and 
shutdown/poweroff.


Why on CentOS a normal user can shutdown the system without root 
privileges? I think that on any server normal user should not be able to 
shutdown the system without privileges.


This is a bug or a wanted default?

Thanks in advance.

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