Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
I personnaly like the combination: Postfix, Mailscanner, Group-Office. Group-office has the functionality i need (email, calendar, calendar sharing, tasks, filemanager, addressbooks, projectmanager etc... Yet is quite simple to setup and use... In the professional version there is also a synchronisation option to sync with outlook... Authentication can be performed on database, email or ldap... eGroupware is another one, similir to group-office but with much more functionality. - Original Message - Subject: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Date: 07-04-2008 7:15 What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Thanks! jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
On Sunday 06 April 2008, Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Thanks! jlc Kollab is pretty decent although it's a bit particular to install. Shawn ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
Shawn Everett wrote: On Sunday 06 April 2008, Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Thanks! jlc Kollab is pretty decent although it's a bit particular to install. Shawn And don't forget horde-groupware webmail edition, you can use your own imap server (cyrus-imap in my case) to authenticate users: a good groupware. Regars js. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
js wrote: Shawn Everett wrote: On Sunday 06 April 2008, Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? We're running the Community edition of Scalix. Easy to setup, easy to administrate. Fully integrates with Outlook and has an AJAX webmail app as an alternative. On the down side it's a bit server heavy (as Java tends to be) and the IMAP server is a bit buggy, but if you use Outlook then you'll avoid that. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
On 4/7/08, Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Thanks! jlc What about Open-Xchange they have two open source versions. It could be a challange to compile OX, then you could use the install CD (iso-image) from NnorTuX http://www.nnortux.no Tronn ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- The box said: Requires MS Windows or better, so I installed Linux ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
2008/4/7, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? What about Zimbra or Scallix? Both not Open Source Scalix uses Scalix Public License (SPL) and Zimbra uses Yahoo Public License (YPL) - both crap licenses and not OSI approved. cheers Simon -- XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
On 07/04/2008, at 10:10 PM, Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/4/7, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? What about Zimbra or Scallix? Both not Open Source Scalix uses Scalix Public License (SPL) and Zimbra uses Yahoo Public License (YPL) - both crap licenses and not OSI approved. cheers Simon Open Source does not depend on the license. You've been drinking the GPL koolaid too long if you think this is the case. Without turning this into a religious debate that I can see on the horizon, you should really read this: http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php Comparing the Zimbra licensing (http://www.zimbra.com/license/) to the definitions in the link above, Zimbra seems to fit the definition of Open Source... The Scalix license (http://www.scalix.com/community/opensource/licensing.php ) may also fit the bill... -- Steven Haigh Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/4/7, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? What about Zimbra or Scallix? Both not Open Source Scalix uses Scalix Public License (SPL) and Zimbra uses Yahoo Public License (YPL) - both crap licenses and not OSI approved. Well, the first part of your statement is debatable (that they are not Open Source), but the second part is fact .. they do not use OSI approved licenses. So, if your definition of Open Source is an OSI approved license, then they are not open source. What's more, in all of these cases full outlook capability is not provided in the Free version anyway. Outlook calender/meeting functionality requires (in almost all the solutions) a really non open source (proprietary and not compilable) program to make use of the proprietary outlook/exchange interface called MAPI. Most of the free versions of these mail systems use IMAP, with will not properly be used by outlook to do calander functions ... and they charge for the outlook MAPI client, which will allow for outlook calender/meeting functions. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Thanks! jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos What about Zimbra or Scallix? -- A friend of mine is running Scalix for one of the town's where I live. It's used for all town government employees, plus all high school staff, teachers and students. I think he said there are about 5000 mailboxes and it runs smoothly. I don't know if he has it setup as a cluster or with a SAN or what. But I know he likes it. -- -matt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
Outlook calender/meeting functionality requires (in almost all the solutions) a really non open source (proprietary and not compilable) program to make use of the proprietary outlook/exchange interface called MAPI. Most of the free versions of these mail systems use IMAP, with will not properly be used by outlook to do calander functions ... and they charge for the outlook MAPI client, which will allow for outlook calender/meeting functions. We use exchange 5.5, in a virtual instance, with samba. Best solution for our enterprise so far. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Not open source, but I recently came across 'PostPath' http://www.postpath.com - it claims to be the only 'True Drop-in Exchange Alternative' - I believe parts of it are based on Postfix and Zimbra. I've never used it, but would be interested in anyone that has ... as I'm looking for something that can work with Exchange, but without the '2nd class citizen' approach that Exchange gives non-Windows users. James Pearson ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
Steven Haigh wrote: On 07/04/2008, at 10:10 PM, Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/4/7, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? What about Zimbra or Scallix? Both not Open Source Scalix uses Scalix Public License (SPL) and Zimbra uses Yahoo Public License (YPL) - both crap licenses and not OSI approved. cheers Simon Open Source does not depend on the license. You've been drinking the GPL koolaid too long if you think this is the case. Without turning this into a religious debate that I can see on the horizon, you should really read this: http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php Comparing the Zimbra licensing (http://www.zimbra.com/license/) to the definitions in the link above, Zimbra seems to fit the definition of Open Source... It does NOT fit the definition ... mainly because of the Attribution requirements ... if it DID fit the defination, it would be approved by the OSI. It was rejected as an OSI license. Here is one discussion: http://linuxgazette.net/148/moen.html Really though, whether or not it fits with YOUR definition of Open Source or Simon's or mine is not relevant ... the only FACT is that the OSI has not approved either license (and both asked for approval). What that means to each user is not really relevant to this list. The OSI only matters to people who think it matters, and to others it does not. The Scalix license (http://www.scalix.com/community/opensource/licensing.php) may also fit the bill... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
Simon Jolle wrote: 2008/4/7, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? What about Zimbra or Scallix? Both not Open Source Scalix uses Scalix Public License (SPL) and Zimbra uses Yahoo Public License (YPL) - both crap licenses and not OSI approved. cheers Simon Well, that's the closest you gonna get. Open Exchange, eGroupware, etc doesn't even come close to MS Exhange. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Check out my technical blog, http://blog.softdux.com for Linux or other technical stuff, or visit http://www.WebHostingTalk.co.za for Web Hosting stuff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008, Joseph L. Casale wrote: What about Zimbra or Scallix? Zimbra looks impressive! Anyone here running it? We have Zimbra running with several hundred mail users on a CentOS 4.5 system (it wouldn't run on CentOS 5 when we started the project). It works well, but does not play nicely with others, basically taking over major parts of the system, postfix, openldap, IMAP, etc., and does so in a manner that makes it difficult to integrate in some systems (e.g. put it behind a postfix, amavisd, clamav, spamassassin system that I can keep current with the Latest Greatest updates, and configure DNSRBLs to my liking). I like to think I have better solutions for e-mail handling than Zimbra, and much prefer to use them unless there's an absolute demand for Exchange functionallity. I won't get into the licensing religious wars, nor do I mind paying for proprietary solutions if they do a better job for my paying customers than I can do with open source. The horde/imp/kronolith/... family of programs, provide good functionallity, but, like any webmail solution, have some basic limitations due to the web interface. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 If taxation without consent is not robbery, then any band of robbers have only to declare themselves a government, and all their robberies are legalized. -- Lysander Spooner, Letter to Grover Cleveland 1886 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Thanks! jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience? Thanks! jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos What about Zimbra or Scallix? -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Check out my technical blog, http://blog.softdux.com for Linux or other technical stuff, or visit http://www.WebHostingTalk.co.za for Web Hosting stuff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] MS Exchange Replacement
What about Zimbra or Scallix? Zimbra looks impressive! Anyone here running it? jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
