Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-11-02 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 02:57 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:

 I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
 listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
 processing, tagging images, etc.

 Its part image database and part image manipulator.

 Link? Please? Digicam gives too many hits on search engine even with
 refining the search.
 (Lurking and inquisitive)

Sorry, I did mean Digikam.  As you might imply from the k substituting
for the c, its a KDE application (although it works fine in a gnome
environment.)

www.digikam.org
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-11-02 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Michael Semcheski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 02:57 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:

 I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
 listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
 processing, tagging images, etc.

 Its part image database and part image manipulator.

 Link? Please? Digicam gives too many hits on search engine even with
 refining the search.
 (Lurking and inquisitive)

 Sorry, I did mean Digikam.  As you might imply from the k substituting
 for the c, its a KDE application (although it works fine in a gnome
 environment.)

 www.digikam.org

Michael: Thank you. I will look into Digikam. At first, I thought
(assumed) the camcorder we were going to get was MiniDV, but, it uses
mini DVDs. So, I just removed kino and Cinelerra looks like it has a
learning curve and no online help.  I will look into  Digikam. Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-11-02 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 02.11.2008 um 20:57 schrieb Lanny Marcus:


On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Michael Semcheski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 02:57 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:

I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
processing, tagging images, etc.

Its part image database and part image manipulator.

Link? Please? Digicam gives too many hits on search engine even with
refining the search.
(Lurking and inquisitive)


Sorry, I did mean Digikam.  As you might imply from the k  
substituting

for the c, its a KDE application (although it works fine in a gnome
environment.)

www.digikam.org


Michael: Thank you. I will look into Digikam. At first, I thought
(assumed) the camcorder we were going to get was MiniDV, but, it uses
mini DVDs.



I have a co-worker who also has such a camcorder.
He hates it;-)
Because to edit these films, you've basically got to re-rip these  
DVDs



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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-11-02 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Sorry, I did mean Digikam.  As you might imply from the k substituting
 for the c, its a KDE application (although it works fine in a gnome
 environment.)

 www.digikam.org

 Michael: Thank you. I will look into Digikam. At first, I thought
 (assumed) the camcorder we were going to get was MiniDV, but, it uses
 mini DVDs.

 I have a co-worker who also has such a camcorder.
 He hates it;-)
 Because to edit these films, you've basically got to re-rip these DVDs

I hope our luck with the mini DVD camcorder will be better!
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-10-31 Thread Rob Townley
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Michael Semcheski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  The GIMP probably is going to require a very *long* learning curve. It
  has the power of
  Adobe Photoshop and may not be something casual users are going to want
  to take the time to learn.
 
  Admittedly. But more in the sense of learning a few very basic steps that
  everybody needs to know:
 
  - photo redimensioning
  - slimming them down (bytewise)
  - turning a color photograph into black and white
  - some basic effects (one-click, included)

 I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
 listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
 processing, tagging images, etc.

 Its part image database and part image manipulator.

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don't forget ImageMagick which could be hosted localhost
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-10-31 Thread Glenn

At 02:57 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:


I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
processing, tagging images, etc.

Its part image database and part image manipulator.


Link? Please? Digicam gives too many hits on search engine even with 
refining the search.

(Lurking and inquisitive)

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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-10-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 31 October 2008 19:26:20 Glenn wrote:
 At 02:57 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
 I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
 listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
 processing, tagging images, etc.
 
 Its part image database and part image manipulator.

 Link? Please? Digicam gives too many hits on search engine even with
 refining the search.
 (Lurking and inquisitive)

I think that 'digikam' was the intention.  I'm not able to get to my centos 
box at the moment to check, but digikam is included in most distros.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-10-31 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Anne Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 31 October 2008 19:26:20 Glenn wrote:
 At 02:57 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
 I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
 listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
 processing, tagging images, etc.
 
 Its part image database and part image manipulator.

 Link? Please? Digicam gives too many hits on search engine even with
 refining the search.
 (Lurking and inquisitive)

 I think that 'digikam' was the intention.  I'm not able to get to my centos
 box at the moment to check, but digikam is included in most distros.

I've been using digikam from the kbs-Testing repository.
http://centos.karan.org/

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The GIMP probably is going to require a very *long* learning curve. It
 has the power of
 Adobe Photoshop and may not be something casual users are going to want
 to take the time to learn.

 Admittedly. But more in the sense of learning a few very basic steps that
 everybody needs to know:

 - photo redimensioning
 - slimming them down (bytewise)
 - turning a color photograph into black and white
 - some basic effects (one-click, included)

I recommend taking a good look at Digicam.  For the types of tasks
listed above, its very good and fairly easy.  It also supports bulk
processing, tagging images, etc.

Its part image database and part image manipulator.

Mike
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-18 Thread Ric Moore
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 16:31 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:48 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 14:32 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
   Ric Moore wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:41 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
   
  
One request that I got more often lately is Google Picasa. I vaguely 
remember having downloaded and installed it once. As far as I know, 
it's 
a closed-source Windows app that comes with a WINE emulation layer. 
Not 
exactly the open source spirit.

   
I just bounced into my Kubuntu install to check, as they have everything
but the kitchen sink to dnload and install. Nada ...came up empty there.
Looks like no hope for anything in binary form to install that is used
in the wide Debian Universe. :( Ric
  
   
   http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html
   http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
  
  That worked like a charm. I am impressed that Google has this. Thanks!
 
 google is one of the biggest supporters of Linux, you shouldn't be
 surprised at all.
No, I wrote impressed. I didn't know that Picasa was a google thing. I
used it before, when I had a static IP and website. I just never put it
into my head that it was Google's. :) Ric

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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-18 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 20:58 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 16:31 -0700, Craig White wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:48 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
   On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 14:32 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
Ric Moore wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:41 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:

   
 One request that I got more often lately is Google Picasa. I vaguely 
 remember having downloaded and installed it once. As far as I know, 
 it's 
 a closed-source Windows app that comes with a WINE emulation layer. 
 Not 
 exactly the open source spirit.
 

 I just bounced into my Kubuntu install to check, as they have 
 everything
 but the kitchen sink to dnload and install. Nada ...came up empty 
 there.
 Looks like no hope for anything in binary form to install that is used
 in the wide Debian Universe. :( Ric
   

http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html
http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
   
   That worked like a charm. I am impressed that Google has this. Thanks!
  
  google is one of the biggest supporters of Linux, you shouldn't be
  surprised at all.
 No, I wrote impressed. I didn't know that Picasa was a google thing. I
 used it before, when I had a static IP and website. I just never put it
 into my head that it was Google's. :) Ric

as far as I know, the only way to get Picasa is to download it from
Google

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-18 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 20:58 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
snip
 One request that I got more often lately is Google Picasa. I vaguely
 remember having downloaded and installed it once. As far as I know, 
 it's
 a closed-source Windows app that comes with a WINE emulation layer. 
 Not
 exactly the open source spirit.
snip
http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html
http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
  
   That worked like a charm. I am impressed that Google has this. Thanks!
  
  google is one of the biggest supporters of Linux, you shouldn't be
  surprised at all.
snip
 
 as far as I know, the only way to get Picasa is to download it from
 Google

I can't remember if I got Picasa with yum from the Google Repository,
or somewhere else on their web site. This is from
/etc/yum.repos.d/google.repo/

[google]
name=Google - $basearch
baseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/$basearch
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
priority=20
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-17 Thread Niki Kovacs

Lanny Marcus a écrit :


The GIMP probably is going to require a very *long* learning curve. It
has the power of
Adobe Photoshop and may not be something casual users are going to want
to take the time to learn. 


Admittedly. But more in the sense of learning a few very basic steps 
that everybody needs to know:


- photo redimensioning
- slimming them down (bytewise)
- turning a color photograph into black and white
- some basic effects (one-click, included)


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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-16 Thread John R Pierce

Niki Kovacs wrote:
Are there some tasks one performs with Picasa that one can't perform 
with these native programs? Or is there some other well-made photo 
management software that you can recommend as a replacement for Picasa?


Picasa makes managing webalbums on http://picasa.google.com/  really 
really easy.thats its main function.  everything else is icing.




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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-16 Thread Niki Kovacs

John R Pierce a écrit :


Picasa makes managing webalbums on http://picasa.google.com/  really 
really easy.thats its main function.  everything else is icing.


Looks like peeking at other apps makes me discover the ones I've got. I 
just fiddled around with GThumb and discovered a truly great web album 
utility.


Guess I'll try and persuade my clients to rather go for the 100% 
GNU/Linux solution: GThumb + GIMP.


I'm rather tools-philosophy oriented. When teaching new users, I try to 
make them understand the importance of that. It's like not buying a TV 
that has also a VCR and a washing machine included.


Thanks everybody for your contributions!

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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-16 Thread Ric Moore
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:41 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm running a small business (http://www.microlinux.fr) offering various 
 services around GNU/Linux, among which migrating folks from Windows to 
 Linux. On server and desktops, I'm using CentOS exclusively. I know, 
 Fedora would be more suitable, but I like the solidity of CentOS, and I 
 can always build the odd missing bits myself from Fedora SRPMS. 

I wouldn't count Fedora is suitable for anyone new to Linux. Heck, I
wouldn't even recommend it to any one with high blood pressure. At
all. :)

But, I do agree with rebuilding packages to CentOS from SRPMs. My life
is a lot more settled and productive using and learning to use CentOS.
My two cents. Ric

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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-16 Thread John R Pierce

Ric Moore wrote:

On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:41 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:

  
One request that I got more often lately is Google Picasa. I vaguely 
remember having downloaded and installed it once. As far as I know, it's 
a closed-source Windows app that comes with a WINE emulation layer. Not 
exactly the open source spirit.



I just bounced into my Kubuntu install to check, as they have everything
but the kitchen sink to dnload and install. Nada ...came up empty there.
Looks like no hope for anything in binary form to install that is used
in the wide Debian Universe. :( Ric
  


http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html
http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-16 Thread Ric Moore
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 14:32 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
 Ric Moore wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:41 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 

  One request that I got more often lately is Google Picasa. I vaguely 
  remember having downloaded and installed it once. As far as I know, it's 
  a closed-source Windows app that comes with a WINE emulation layer. Not 
  exactly the open source spirit.
  
 
  I just bounced into my Kubuntu install to check, as they have everything
  but the kitchen sink to dnload and install. Nada ...came up empty there.
  Looks like no hope for anything in binary form to install that is used
  in the wide Debian Universe. :( Ric

 
 http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html
 http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html

That worked like a charm. I am impressed that Google has this. Thanks!
Ric


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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-16 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:48 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 14:32 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
  Ric Moore wrote:
   On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:41 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
  
 
   One request that I got more often lately is Google Picasa. I vaguely 
   remember having downloaded and installed it once. As far as I know, it's 
   a closed-source Windows app that comes with a WINE emulation layer. Not 
   exactly the open source spirit.
   
  
   I just bounced into my Kubuntu install to check, as they have everything
   but the kitchen sink to dnload and install. Nada ...came up empty there.
   Looks like no hope for anything in binary form to install that is used
   in the wide Debian Universe. :( Ric
 
  
  http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ubuntu704.html
  http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
 
 That worked like a charm. I am impressed that Google has this. Thanks!

google is one of the biggest supporters of Linux, you shouldn't be
surprised at all.

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] Picasa vs. native photo management apps

2008-09-16 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John R Pierce a écrit :

 Picasa makes managing webalbums on http://picasa.google.com/  really
 really easy.thats its main function.  everything else is icing.

 Looks like peeking at other apps makes me discover the ones I've got. I just
 fiddled around with GThumb and discovered a truly great web album utility.

 Guess I'll try and persuade my clients to rather go for the 100% GNU/Linux
 solution: GThumb + GIMP.

The GIMP probably is going to require a very *long* learning curve. It
has the power of
Adobe Photoshop and may not be something casual users are going to want
to take the time to learn. I like GThumb and I use it most of the time
for simple things. My wife has tried a bunch of applications
and she  likes Picasa and that's what she uses now.  As I recall, on Linux,
Picasa does install with a slimmed down version of WINE that Google
supplies with it.
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