Re: [CentOS] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0, Centos 5, and rpms

2007-06-19 Thread Robert Becker Cope

Bart Schaefer wrote:


Just as a point of interest -- we have one person here who installed
FF2 from the those tarballs on her CentOS 4 machine, and she's been
having problems with it crashing every few days.  I on the other hand


I have -- and I'm betting a lot of other folks are -- been running 
Firefox 2.x from the tarballs on a CentOS machine for long while without 
any issues.


robert
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0, Centos 5, and rpms

2007-06-19 Thread Bart Schaefer

On 6/19/07, Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

wrt a firefox 2 (or thunderbird) install ... they are fairly trivial to
do with the binaries produced by Mozilla.org.


Just as a point of interest -- we have one person here who installed
FF2 from the those tarballs on her CentOS 4 machine, and she's been
having problems with it crashing every few days.  I on the other hand
have been running the FF1.5 from the CentOS repos for weeks at a time
without any problem -- the only time I restart it is when I upgrade it
or have to reboot.
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0, Centos 5, and rpms

2007-06-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 08:23 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Axel Thimm wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >   
> >> I am making some progress on my Centos 5 notebook build.
> >>
> >> So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.
> >>
> >> Should I install them?  Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing 
> >> improved here and wait for 3.0?  (well I have not even had a chance to 
> >> look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
> >>
> >> I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there 
> >> rpms?  I did not find anything over at ATrpms.
> >> 
> >
> > There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean
> > rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?
> >   
> Yeah, I noticed no FF/TB at ATrpms, but nowhere else either.

wrt a firefox 2 (or thunderbird) install ... they are fairly trivial to
do with the binaries produced by Mozilla.org.

just download and extract the tarballs from mozilla.org and move the
firefox directory (or the thunderbird directory)
to /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.x or /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.4.

install compat-libstdc++-33 with yum (or compat-libstdc++-296 ... I
can't remember which)

if you have firefox 1.5 installed:

mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox.old

Create a symlink similar to this:

ln -s /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.4/firefox /usr/bin/firefox

(you need to to the same for thunderbird ...)

Then you need to take care of any plugins you have installed ... by
moving them from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
and /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.{version}/plugins
to /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.4/plugins/

You need to manage upgrades yourself ... I just download the latest
firefox from mozilla and do this again when there are updates.

Note:  In CentOS-5, firefox is a required install for other things ...
so if firefox-1.5 is installed and updated by yum, you will need to
recreate your /usr/bin/firefox symlink to use firefox 2.

I personally use evolution for e-mail and Gran Paradiso (firefox-3
alpha5) as my web browser ...

Trying to replace firefox on CentOS-5 with another RPM is going to be
versy problematic as several other packages are built against it in the
distribution ... but running 2 versions in parallel is not very hard.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0, Centos 5, and rpms

2007-06-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Axel Thimm wrote:

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  

I am making some progress on my Centos 5 notebook build.

So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.

Should I install them?  Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing 
improved here and wait for 3.0?  (well I have not even had a chance to 
look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?


I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there 
rpms?  I did not find anything over at ATrpms.



There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean
rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?
  

Yeah, I noticed no FF/TB at ATrpms, but nowhere else either.


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[CentOS] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0, Centos 5, and rpms

2007-06-15 Thread Axel Thimm
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I am making some progress on my Centos 5 notebook build.
> 
> So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.
> 
> Should I install them?  Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing 
> improved here and wait for 3.0?  (well I have not even had a chance to 
> look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
> 
> I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there 
> rpms?  I did not find anything over at ATrpms.

There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean
rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?

> Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net


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[CentOS] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0, Centos 5, and rpms

2007-06-15 Thread Axel Thimm
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 11:37:52PM -0700, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote:
> > Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait
> > for 3.0?
> 
> Sorry to jump in, but where is that you saw Red Hat saying "there is
> nothing _improved_ in FF2"?! I suppose RHEL5 doesn't have FF2 because
> "it's too new", but here is what I terribly miss while using FF1.5:
> -- saving the whole session, even when FF crashes (yes, FF _may_
> crash); it saves even the text you were writing in a textarea!
> -- spell-checking (extremely useful when you're not a native speaker).

I agree, I just upgrade to Fedora 7 which finally had FF2, and I
already enjoyed both features.

> But indeed is kinda shame that there isn't any 3rd party repo
> providing FF2 for EL5. (I don't expect EPEL to have it. because FC6
> was on FF1.5 too).

EPEL is not going to replace any RHEL packages. There was a longish
thread on whether Fedora Extras would provide FF2 as a parallel
install for FC5/6, but the FF mainatiner gave good reason for not
doing so (like the FF2 packages he would create being in an
incompatible upgrade path, FF and FF2 not being able to share configs
and the like). So in general it's a touch job for a 3rd party to
decide to do so, when even the base distribution is holding off.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0, Centos 5, and rpms

2007-06-15 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Axel Thimm wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there 
>> rpms?  I did not find anything over at ATrpms.
> 
> There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean
> rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?

Those repositories don't have newer FF/TB versions either.

Ralph


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