Re: [CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-11-01 Thread David G. Miller

fabian dacunha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote with horrible intentional 
misspellings:


Dear All,

its a offtopic question but really apprecite if someone would advise n help
i have been running a mil server with sendmail

and have sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org as my dnsbl.

i had  other servers which are alredy out now
that is relays.ordb.org and dsbl.org have already been out of my sendmail
config.

any one knows of ny other servers i could add in my sendmail config

apprecite ur help

thanks


regards

Fabian

I have two blog posts that describe how I deal with spam:

http://davenjudy.org/davesBlog/node/22

http://davenjudy.org/davesBlog/node/27

I use a combination of several RBLs and dSPAM that seems to work fairly 
well and I'm not hearing about any false positives.


Cheers,
Dave

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[CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-10-31 Thread fabian dacunha

Dear All,

its a offtopic question but really apprecite if someone would advise n help
i have been running a mil server with sendmail

and have sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org as my dnsbl.

i had  other servers which are alredy out now
that is relays.ordb.org and dsbl.org have already been out of my sendmail
config.

any one knows of ny other servers i could add in my sendmail config

apprecite ur help

thanks


regards

Fabian




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Re: [CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-10-31 Thread Ralph Angenendt
fabian dacunha wrote:
 its a offtopic question but really apprecite if someone would advise n help
 i have been running a mil server with sendmail
 
 and have sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org as my dnsbl.
 
 i had  other servers which are alredy out now
 that is relays.ordb.org and dsbl.org have already been out of my sendmail
 config.
 
 any one knows of ny other servers i could add in my sendmail config

Any list which you trust enough to make the decision *which* mails you
accept for you. 

Which would leave none for me.

Even sbl.spamhaus.org contains a blacklist, which sometimes lists
because of the name the machine has (CBL that is).

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-10-31 Thread Ned Slider

Ralph Angenendt wrote:

fabian dacunha wrote:

its a offtopic question but really apprecite if someone would advise n help
i have been running a mil server with sendmail

and have sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org as my dnsbl.

i had  other servers which are alredy out now
that is relays.ordb.org and dsbl.org have already been out of my sendmail
config.

any one knows of ny other servers i could add in my sendmail config


Any list which you trust enough to make the decision *which* mails you
accept for you. 


Which would leave none for me.

Even sbl.spamhaus.org contains a blacklist, which sometimes lists
because of the name the machine has (CBL that is).

Ralph



DNSBL has information on many RBLs together with statistics on their 
effectiveness:


http://stats.dnsbl.com/

Other popular RBLs besides Spamhaus include Spamcop, PSBL and uceprotect.

As Ralph says, any RBL should be used with a certain amount of caution 
as it has the potential to cause FPs (some more so than others). An 
alternative approach is to use such RBLs as part of a scoring system 
such as SpamAssassin. This is particularly useful for RBLs that you 
don't trust to outright reject mail at the smtp level.


If you want to improve on the performance of sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, I 
would first look at switching to the combined zen.spamhaus.org zone 
which also contains the pbl.spamhaus.org zone. My own data shows 
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org to block around 50% of spam whereas 
zen.spamhaus.org hits on around 90% of spam with very few FPs for me - 
YMMV. You should monitor performance closely.






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Re: [CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-10-31 Thread Matt Shields
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ralph Angenendt wrote:

 fabian dacunha wrote:

 its a offtopic question but really apprecite if someone would advise n
 help
 i have been running a mil server with sendmail

 and have sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org as my dnsbl.

 i had  other servers which are alredy out now
 that is relays.ordb.org and dsbl.org have already been out of my
 sendmail
 config.

 any one knows of ny other servers i could add in my sendmail config


 Any list which you trust enough to make the decision *which* mails you
 accept for you.
 Which would leave none for me.

 Even sbl.spamhaus.org contains a blacklist, which sometimes lists
 because of the name the machine has (CBL that is).

 Ralph


 DNSBL has information on many RBLs together with statistics on their
 effectiveness:

 http://stats.dnsbl.com/

 Other popular RBLs besides Spamhaus include Spamcop, PSBL and uceprotect.

 As Ralph says, any RBL should be used with a certain amount of caution as
 it has the potential to cause FPs (some more so than others). An alternative
 approach is to use such RBLs as part of a scoring system such as
 SpamAssassin. This is particularly useful for RBLs that you don't trust to
 outright reject mail at the smtp level.

 If you want to improve on the performance of sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, I would
 first look at switching to the combined zen.spamhaus.org zone which also
 contains the pbl.spamhaus.org zone. My own data shows sbl-xbl.spamhaus.orgto 
 block around 50% of spam whereas
 zen.spamhaus.org hits on around 90% of spam with very few FPs for me -
 YMMV. You should monitor performance closely.


Anyone have any experience dealing with SURBL?  I have a client who's domain
and IP is not listed in SURBL, but their client in China is using SURBL and
my client's emails are getting blocked.  Can't seem to find how SURBL is
blocking them

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Re: [CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-10-31 Thread fabian dacunha
Thanks guys for ur immediate reply

do apprecite

i try to incoporate some of the RBLS and check it out


regards

simon


 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ralph Angenendt wrote:

 fabian dacunha wrote:

 its a offtopic question but really apprecite if someone would advise n
 help
 i have been running a mil server with sendmail

 and have sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org as my dnsbl.

 i had  other servers which are alredy out now
 that is relays.ordb.org and dsbl.org have already been out of my
 sendmail
 config.

 any one knows of ny other servers i could add in my sendmail config


 Any list which you trust enough to make the decision *which* mails you
 accept for you.
 Which would leave none for me.

 Even sbl.spamhaus.org contains a blacklist, which sometimes lists
 because of the name the machine has (CBL that is).

 Ralph


 DNSBL has information on many RBLs together with statistics on their
 effectiveness:

 http://stats.dnsbl.com/

 Other popular RBLs besides Spamhaus include Spamcop, PSBL and
 uceprotect.

 As Ralph says, any RBL should be used with a certain amount of caution
 as
 it has the potential to cause FPs (some more so than others). An
 alternative
 approach is to use such RBLs as part of a scoring system such as
 SpamAssassin. This is particularly useful for RBLs that you don't trust
 to
 outright reject mail at the smtp level.

 If you want to improve on the performance of sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, I
 would
 first look at switching to the combined zen.spamhaus.org zone which also
 contains the pbl.spamhaus.org zone. My own data shows
 sbl-xbl.spamhaus.orgto block around 50% of spam whereas
 zen.spamhaus.org hits on around 90% of spam with very few FPs for me -
 YMMV. You should monitor performance closely.


 Anyone have any experience dealing with SURBL?  I have a client who's
 domain
 and IP is not listed in SURBL, but their client in China is using SURBL
 and
 my client's emails are getting blocked.  Can't seem to find how SURBL is
 blocking them

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Re: [CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-10-31 Thread Glenn

At 01:34 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:

Thanks guys for ur immediate reply

do apprecite

i try to incoporate some of the RBLS and check it out


regards

simon


Depending upon your outcome, there are other methods you can use to 
modify for better results. You may find inserting the RBL in sendmail 
as a successful choice.


In case you do not, What I use is a combination of scoring within 
SpamAssassin on the public RBLs and maintaining my own RBL on my 
local mail servers (See http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/rbldnsd.html).


I got too many false positives off publicly available RBLs, but 
adding up the number of RBLs a sender 'hits' made my SpamAssassin 
scoring method VERY ACCURATE!


Good luck and keep fighting! 


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Re: [CentOS] offtopic question .. apprecyice ur help

2008-10-31 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Fabian dacunha wrote on Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:49:18 +0300 (AST):

 its a offtopic question

That doesn't mean that you can't give it a meaningful subject. Thanks.

Kai

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