Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:24 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Christopher Chan wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:35 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 08, 2011 12:01:36 PM Christopher Chan wrote:
 Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless
 router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in
 homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there?
>>> Cisco has a few; see the ISR G2 1941W for one that is a 'cut above' the 
>>> former Linksys product lines.
>>>
>>> Larger Cisco ISR's (2900 and 3900 series) support a network module that 
>>> acts as a supervisor of sorts for Cisco access points, too.
>>
>> /me shrugs. I am happy as a fish in water with them Aerohive 340 APs and
>> HP 2910al PoE+ switches. Lifetime warranty, downloadable firmware for
>> the switches and the access points have proven to be pain free once setup.
>>
>> No blooming uber expensive support contract to deal with.
>
> Those can be marked as Office applications, but not the professional.

What are you blabbering about? What Office applications?


>
> Professional link Today would be those that can pass 150Mbps of *real*
> throughtput with full routing up to the distance of 30km, or 75Mbps up
> to 55km. And it can be done under 1000 EUR ($1500) without large
> batteries, solar chargers or similar accessory gear.
> And those "routers/AP's" that are rated 300Mbps and have 100Mbps LAN and
> weak CPU. heh.
>

Excuse me? We are talking about WIFI and not just wireless 'wan' links 
right? In any case, I suspect that the Aerohive 340 can do uber km too 
with a change to directional antennae and other stuff to boost signal 
quality.

BTW, if you are implying that the Aerohive only has FastEthernet ports, 
you are dead wrong. They have dual Gigabit ports, have done 20MiB/sec 
transfers on a single host, support up to 40 clients simultaneously and 
these were the results in the UAT. A bit short of their claim of 60 
clients simultaneously but that is probably human error...we did not 
have 60 persons to simultaneously click the file download but we managed 
to get 40 going at the same time.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-09 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote:
> On Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:35 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>> On Friday, July 08, 2011 12:01:36 PM Christopher Chan wrote:
>>> Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless
>>> router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in
>>> homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there?
>> Cisco has a few; see the ISR G2 1941W for one that is a 'cut above' the 
>> former Linksys product lines.
>>
>> Larger Cisco ISR's (2900 and 3900 series) support a network module that acts 
>> as a supervisor of sorts for Cisco access points, too.
> 
> /me shrugs. I am happy as a fish in water with them Aerohive 340 APs and 
> HP 2910al PoE+ switches. Lifetime warranty, downloadable firmware for 
> the switches and the access points have proven to be pain free once setup.
> 
> No blooming uber expensive support contract to deal with.

Those can be marked as Office applications, but not the professional.

Professional link Today would be those that can pass 150Mbps of *real* 
throughtput with full routing up to the distance of 30km, or 75Mbps up 
to 55km. And it can be done under 1000 EUR ($1500) without large 
batteries, solar chargers or similar accessory gear.
And those "routers/AP's" that are rated 300Mbps and have 100Mbps LAN and 
weak CPU. heh.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-09 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:35 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Friday, July 08, 2011 12:01:36 PM Christopher Chan wrote:
>> Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless
>> router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in
>> homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there?
>
> Cisco has a few; see the ISR G2 1941W for one that is a 'cut above' the 
> former Linksys product lines.
>
> Larger Cisco ISR's (2900 and 3900 series) support a network module that acts 
> as a supervisor of sorts for Cisco access points, too.

/me shrugs. I am happy as a fish in water with them Aerohive 340 APs and 
HP 2910al PoE+ switches. Lifetime warranty, downloadable firmware for 
the switches and the access points have proven to be pain free once setup.

No blooming uber expensive support contract to deal with.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, July 08, 2011 12:01:36 PM Christopher Chan wrote:
> Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless 
> router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in 
> homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there?

Cisco has a few; see the ISR G2 1941W for one that is a 'cut above' the former 
Linksys product lines.

Larger Cisco ISR's (2900 and 3900 series) support a network module that acts as 
a supervisor of sorts for Cisco access points, too.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote:
>> And when I say routing, I mean RIP, OSPF, OLSR, BGP...
> 
> Bah, those for are sissies. I know of one chap who manually maintained 
> the routing tables for checkpoint firewalls in a full mesh configuration 
> and who had over 20 sites in that particular vpn network (works for a 
> global conglomerate). Yes, I would be a sissy if I ever had to deploy a 
> multi-site vpn network/multi-site network. :-P

That is not so hard to do if you know what you are doing. I can create 
that 20+ network with StarOS routers on each site and OLSR or OSPF 
dynamic routing that practically would not need any maintainance, even 
with almost all units behind firewall/NAT (No public IP). With 
encryption and all. I can do it even with Mikrotik, but that is little 
different beast, needs routed (public) IP's an all sites.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:48 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Christopher Chan wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>> Lamar Owen wrote:
 The Apple Airport in an Intel Mac is Broadcom; many Intel Dell's have the 
 option of Broadcom, which is typically less expensive than the 3945 or 
 similar Intel wireless chipset.  My Dell Inspiron 640m came with a 
 Broadcom card; my Precision M65 had an Intel 3945 but has a Broadcom now 
 (for other various reasons that are beyond the scope of the CentOS list).

 The one AMD laptop I had that had PCIe wifi had an Atheros chipset. 
 but YMMV.
>>> Intel, Broadcom, Ralink and Realtek chips are mostly used only for
>>> Laptops. Any decent (professional) Wireless router will have Atheros
>>> based radio. And the are excellent Atheros open source drivers.
>>
>> Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless
>> router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in
>> homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there? I have
>> Aerohive 340 access points over here (uses Atheros btw) but I cannot
>> seem to remember whether it supported routing but it does support tying
>> profiles to vlans and a host of other stuff.
>
> There are Wireless Access points (without routing capability) and only
> one wireless radio, semi-routers with only one wireless radio but with
> rudimentary routing and firewall/NAT support (most Ubiquity products)
> and there are full fledged routers with one or multiple LAN and wireless
> radios cards.
>
> In the last group, most used is Mikrotik hardware with their RouterOS
> software that supports most of the routing protocols and extensive
> firewall/NAT/mangle capabilities. My favorite is StarOS software that
> runs on larger number of hardware platforms including regular PC's (as
> does RouterOS). There are other software/OS's but those 2 are, in my
> opinion, the best ones.
> Both of them support *only* Atheros chipsets.
>
> And when I say routing, I mean RIP, OSPF, OLSR, BGP...

Bah, those for are sissies. I know of one chap who manually maintained 
the routing tables for checkpoint firewalls in a full mesh configuration 
and who had over 20 sites in that particular vpn network (works for a 
global conglomerate). Yes, I would be a sissy if I ever had to deploy a 
multi-site vpn network/multi-site network. :-P


>
>>> From manufacturers, Winstron and Compex are most respected. This is
>>> from 7 years of professional experience.
>>
>> Let's see if we win the obscure wireless product awards ;)
>
> I was refering to manufacturers of Atheros based radio cards, not
> routers. Sorry is I have not stated that clearly.
>

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote:
> On Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> Lamar Owen wrote:
>>> The Apple Airport in an Intel Mac is Broadcom; many Intel Dell's have the 
>>> option of Broadcom, which is typically less expensive than the 3945 or 
>>> similar Intel wireless chipset.  My Dell Inspiron 640m came with a Broadcom 
>>> card; my Precision M65 had an Intel 3945 but has a Broadcom now (for other 
>>> various reasons that are beyond the scope of the CentOS list).
>>>
>>> The one AMD laptop I had that had PCIe wifi had an Atheros chipset. but 
>>> YMMV.
>> Intel, Broadcom, Ralink and Realtek chips are mostly used only for
>> Laptops. Any decent (professional) Wireless router will have Atheros
>> based radio. And the are excellent Atheros open source drivers.
> 
> Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless 
> router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in 
> homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there? I have 
> Aerohive 340 access points over here (uses Atheros btw) but I cannot 
> seem to remember whether it supported routing but it does support tying 
> profiles to vlans and a host of other stuff.

There are Wireless Access points (without routing capability) and only 
one wireless radio, semi-routers with only one wireless radio but with 
rudimentary routing and firewall/NAT support (most Ubiquity products) 
and there are full fledged routers with one or multiple LAN and wireless 
radios cards.

In the last group, most used is Mikrotik hardware with their RouterOS 
software that supports most of the routing protocols and extensive 
firewall/NAT/mangle capabilities. My favorite is StarOS software that 
runs on larger number of hardware platforms including regular PC's (as 
does RouterOS). There are other software/OS's but those 2 are, in my 
opinion, the best ones.
Both of them support *only* Atheros chipsets.

And when I say routing, I mean RIP, OSPF, OLSR, BGP...

>>   From manufacturers, Winstron and Compex are most respected. This is
>> from 7 years of professional experience.
> 
> Let's see if we win the obscure wireless product awards ;)

I was refering to manufacturers of Atheros based radio cards, not 
routers. Sorry is I have not stated that clearly.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
>>
>> The Apple Airport in an Intel Mac is Broadcom; many Intel Dell's have the 
>> option of Broadcom, which is typically less expensive than the 3945 or 
>> similar Intel wireless chipset.  My Dell Inspiron 640m came with a Broadcom 
>> card; my Precision M65 had an Intel 3945 but has a Broadcom now (for other 
>> various reasons that are beyond the scope of the CentOS list).
>>
>> The one AMD laptop I had that had PCIe wifi had an Atheros chipset. but 
>> YMMV.
>
> Intel, Broadcom, Ralink and Realtek chips are mostly used only for
> Laptops. Any decent (professional) Wireless router will have Atheros
> based radio. And the are excellent Atheros open source drivers.

Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless 
router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in 
homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there? I have 
Aerohive 340 access points over here (uses Atheros btw) but I cannot 
seem to remember whether it supported routing but it does support tying 
profiles to vlans and a host of other stuff.


>
>   From manufacturers, Winstron and Compex are most respected. This is
> from 7 years of professional experience.

Let's see if we win the obscure wireless product awards ;)
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-08 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/8/2011 1:33 AM, ramazan arslan wrote:
> Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the
> iso link. please help

If I recall correctly it hasn't been released yet. I believe the last I 
heard it was going to the mirrors this week, but isn't available yet for 
download.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-07 Thread ramazan arslan
 Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the iso
link. please help
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Lamar Owen wrote:
> 
> The Apple Airport in an Intel Mac is Broadcom; many Intel Dell's have the 
> option of Broadcom, which is typically less expensive than the 3945 or 
> similar Intel wireless chipset.  My Dell Inspiron 640m came with a Broadcom 
> card; my Precision M65 had an Intel 3945 but has a Broadcom now (for other 
> various reasons that are beyond the scope of the CentOS list).
> 
> The one AMD laptop I had that had PCIe wifi had an Atheros chipset. but 
> YMMV.

Intel, Broadcom, Ralink and Realtek chips are mostly used only for 
Laptops. Any decent (professional) Wireless router will have Atheros 
based radio. And the are excellent Atheros open source drivers.

 From manufacturers, Winstron and Compex are most respected. This is 
from 7 years of professional experience.

> And just in case no one has said it lately, thanks to you and all the ELrepo 
> folks for your efforts; even though I'm not currently using ELrepo for 
> anything, I certainly appreciate what you'ns do.
+1

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, July 06, 2011 04:36:39 PM Ned Slider wrote:
> Yes, I see a couple of other repos are shipping kmod-wl binaries. We 
> noted that at the time we took legal advice to establish if we had 
> possibly misinterpreted the License. They obviously don't share our 
> concerns about the licensing terms for redistribution (or maybe they 
> just didn't read them too closely) :-/

Understood.  Obviously, don't put something in the repo you're not comfortable 
shipping; the .nosrc.rpm technique, with a documented build setup, to let 
people roll their own is fine, and has been used before for 
'redistribution-restricted' code (like Sun/Oracle Java).

> Personally I'd rather try to find a way to pressurise Broadcom into 
> doing the right thing by the Linux community rather than support (IMHO) 
> draconian licensing restrictions... 

The image in my mind of clamping a hyperbaric chamber over a whole company gave 
me the laugh of the day, thanks so much for the Freudian slip on 
'pressurise'. perhaps thats common usage in your location; in mine we'd say 
'pressure' or 'leverage' but reserve 'pressurize' for things like air 
compressors and such

> Shame, as Broadcom adapters seem particularly prevalent 
> on AMD-based laptops. I bought an Intel-based laptop where pretty much 
> everything works with CentOS out of the box :-/

The Apple Airport in an Intel Mac is Broadcom; many Intel Dell's have the 
option of Broadcom, which is typically less expensive than the 3945 or similar 
Intel wireless chipset.  My Dell Inspiron 640m came with a Broadcom card; my 
Precision M65 had an Intel 3945 but has a Broadcom now (for other various 
reasons that are beyond the scope of the CentOS list).

The one AMD laptop I had that had PCIe wifi had an Atheros chipset. but 
YMMV.

And just in case no one has said it lately, thanks to you and all the ELrepo 
folks for your efforts; even though I'm not currently using ELrepo for 
anything, I certainly appreciate what you'ns do.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/6/2011 4:36 PM, Ned Slider wrote:
> On 06/07/11 13:32, Lamar Owen wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 06:19:58 PM Ned Slider wrote:
>>> On 05/07/11 10:09, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms,
 but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom
>>
>>> We (elrepo) certainly aren't prepared to create and redistribute binary
>>> "kmod-wl" RPMS given the Broadcom licensing restrictions.
>>
>> For Fedora the RPMfusion 'nonfree' repo has kmod-wl and friends.  An 
>> EPEL-based RPMfusion for EL is in testing, but kmod-wl and friends are not 
>> there yet.
>>
>
> Hi Lamar,
>
> Yes, I see a couple of other repos are shipping kmod-wl binaries. We
> noted that at the time we took legal advice to establish if we had
> possibly misinterpreted the License. They obviously don't share our
> concerns about the licensing terms for redistribution (or maybe they
> just didn't read them too closely) :-/
>
> Personally I'd rather try to find a way to pressurise Broadcom into
> doing the right thing by the Linux community rather than support (IMHO)
> draconian licensing restrictions... but somehow I doubt Broadcom really
> care that much. Other vendors find a way to license their non-free
> content in a less restrictive way that permits unencumbered
> redistribution. Shame, as Broadcom adapters seem particularly prevalent
> on AMD-based laptops. I bought an Intel-based laptop where pretty much
> everything works with CentOS out of the box :-/

It is indeed a shame because in my humble opinion the AMD processors are 
much better than Intel. What's interesting though is that none of the 
distros I've previewed on this laptop have had any trouble with the LAN 
chipset in that it is able to connect to the network. It's mostly just 
the WLAN mini-card.

Given the choice I'll take an AMD over and Intel processor any day 
whether it's a server or a desktop. All my servers, save one, have AMD 
Opteron chips in them and those servers I've been deploying for clients 
where its possible have AMD Opterons in them. (Dell R415 is an excellent 
example.)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-06 Thread Ned Slider
On 06/07/11 13:32, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 06:19:58 PM Ned Slider wrote:
>> On 05/07/11 10:09, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>> Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms,
>>> but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
>>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom
>
>> We (elrepo) certainly aren't prepared to create and redistribute binary
>> "kmod-wl" RPMS given the Broadcom licensing restrictions.
>
> For Fedora the RPMfusion 'nonfree' repo has kmod-wl and friends.  An 
> EPEL-based RPMfusion for EL is in testing, but kmod-wl and friends are not 
> there yet.
>

Hi Lamar,

Yes, I see a couple of other repos are shipping kmod-wl binaries. We 
noted that at the time we took legal advice to establish if we had 
possibly misinterpreted the License. They obviously don't share our 
concerns about the licensing terms for redistribution (or maybe they 
just didn't read them too closely) :-/

Personally I'd rather try to find a way to pressurise Broadcom into 
doing the right thing by the Linux community rather than support (IMHO) 
draconian licensing restrictions... but somehow I doubt Broadcom really 
care that much. Other vendors find a way to license their non-free 
content in a less restrictive way that permits unencumbered 
redistribution. Shame, as Broadcom adapters seem particularly prevalent 
on AMD-based laptops. I bought an Intel-based laptop where pretty much 
everything works with CentOS out of the box :-/

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 06:19:58 PM Ned Slider wrote:
> On 05/07/11 10:09, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> > Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms,
> > but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
> > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom

> We (elrepo) certainly aren't prepared to create and redistribute binary 
> "kmod-wl" RPMS given the Broadcom licensing restrictions. 

For Fedora the RPMfusion 'nonfree' repo has kmod-wl and friends.  An EPEL-based 
RPMfusion for EL is in testing, but kmod-wl and friends are not there yet.

Caveats abound for using rpmfusion-nonfree.  Please see the rpmfusion.org site 
for more info.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Ned Slider
On 05/07/11 10:09, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Mark Weaver wrote:
>> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking
 around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't
 find one.

 I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card
 in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver
 support for the WIFI.
>>> I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
>>> There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
>>> applicable to CentOS 6.
>>
>> I took a look at the Fedora 15 live CD and it didn't have any idea what
>> to do with the WIFI chipset. As I recall it didn't even see it.
>>
>
> Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms,
> but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom
>
> Ljubomir

That was true, but...

We (elrepo) certainly aren't prepared to create and redistribute binary 
"kmod-wl" RPMS given the Broadcom licensing restrictions. However, one 
of our colleagues recently required these packages so we did knock up 
some kmod packages for el5 and el6 for our own internal not to be 
redistributed private use.

As there is evidently a high demand for them, we have decided to make 
available our SRPMS (well, .nosrc.rpm actually) which end users can 
rebuild themselves.

http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el5/SRPMS/wl-kmod-5_100_82_38-1.el5.elrepo.nosrc.rpm
http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el6/SRPMS/wl-kmod-5_100_82_38-2.el6.elrepo.nosrc.rpm

Because these packages do not contain or redistribute anything from 
Broadcom they are not subject to Broadcom's licensing, hence we feel we 
are able to distribute them if they benefit the community. I think we 
have some detailed directions somewhere on how to build the packages 
from our SRPMS so perhaps one of my colleagues will get that posted up 
shortly.

Hope that helps.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:43:37PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:


> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> >> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? 
> >>
> >> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card
> >> in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver
> >> support for the WIFI.
> >
> > I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
> > There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
> > applicable to CentOS 6.
> 
> I took a look at the Fedora 15 live CD and it didn't have any idea what 
> to do with the WIFI chipset. As I recall it didn't even see it.
> 

That's possible--not having one, I haven't paid too much attention, but
there's a mod on the Fedora fora with the username of stoat, and he
gives the solution all the time.  


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/5/2011 5:33 AM, B.J. McClure wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 11:09 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> Mark Weaver wrote:
>>> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking
> around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't
> find one.
>
> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card
> in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver
> support for the WIFI.
 I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
 There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
 applicable to CentOS 6.
>>>
>>> I took a look at the Fedora 15 live CD and it didn't have any idea what
>>> to do with the WIFI chipset. As I recall it didn't even see it.
>>>
>>
>> Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms,
>> but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom
>>
>> Ljubomir
>
> Broadcom released open source drivers in Fall of 2010 for both 32&  64
> bit systems.  I do not know if it supports the 1390 chip.  It does
> support 4300 series chips and b43-fwcutter, for extracting and
> installing firmware, and b43 driver are shipped with RHEL 6.  One should
> probably assume the same support in CentOS 6.
>
> HTH,
> B.J.
>
> RHEL 6.0, Linux 2.6.32-131.2.1.el6.x86_64

well then... this is good news and I'll have to wait till 6 is released. 
Thank you for the info.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/5/2011 5:09 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Mark Weaver wrote:
>> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking
 around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't
 find one.

 I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card
 in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver
 support for the WIFI.
>>> I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
>>> There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
>>> applicable to CentOS 6.
>>
>> I took a look at the Fedora 15 live CD and it didn't have any idea what
>> to do with the WIFI chipset. As I recall it didn't even see it.
>>
>
> Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms,
> but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom
>
> Ljubomir

Wow I'd forgotten CentOS has a wiki; thank you!

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Michael Schumacher
Mark,

On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 you wrote:

> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6?

Check my question regarding the same question from May. 3rd this year
with the subject "list of supported hardware".

There is a list of certified hardware, but no list of supported hardware.

I find this strange as in my opinion the hardware support is mainly
handled in the kernel. If people are writing drivers for the kernel, it 
would be quite simple to ask them adding the supported hardware to a
list.

Some two years ago I had an issue with a new motherboard. After a
kernel update, it had massive memory errors in the log-files. It
turned out that a new kernel driver simply added the feature of
reporting errors. They were there before, but not reported. I had to
wade through the kernel source code and the history-files to figure
out what had happened. Not really good, but OTOH no CENTOS problem.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread B.J. McClure
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 11:09 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Mark Weaver wrote:
> > On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> >>> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking
> >>> around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't
> >>> find one.
> >>>
> >>> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card
> >>> in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver
> >>> support for the WIFI.
> >> I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
> >> There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
> >> applicable to CentOS 6.
> > 
> > I took a look at the Fedora 15 live CD and it didn't have any idea what 
> > to do with the WIFI chipset. As I recall it didn't even see it.
> > 
> 
> Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms, 
> but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom
> 
> Ljubomir

Broadcom released open source drivers in Fall of 2010 for both 32 & 64
bit systems.  I do not know if it supports the 1390 chip.  It does
support 4300 series chips and b43-fwcutter, for extracting and
installing firmware, and b43 driver are shipped with RHEL 6.  One should
probably assume the same support in CentOS 6.

HTH,
B.J.

RHEL 6.0, Linux 2.6.32-131.2.1.el6.x86_64

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Mark Weaver wrote:
> On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
>>> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking
>>> around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't
>>> find one.
>>>
>>> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card
>>> in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver
>>> support for the WIFI.
>> I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
>> There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
>> applicable to CentOS 6.
> 
> I took a look at the Fedora 15 live CD and it didn't have any idea what 
> to do with the WIFI chipset. As I recall it didn't even see it.
> 

Broadcom has license restrictions so even ElRepo guys wont create rpms, 
but there is howto, even for CentOS 5:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom

Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-05 Thread John Doe
From: Mark Weaver 

> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking 
> around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't 
> find one.

Maybe try here:
https://hardware.redhat.com/

JD
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/4/2011 10:41 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
>> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking
>> around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't
>> find one.
>>
>> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card
>> in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver
>> support for the WIFI.
>
> I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
> There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
> applicable to CentOS 6.

I took a look at the Fedora 15 live CD and it didn't have any idea what 
to do with the WIFI chipset. As I recall it didn't even see it.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-04 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:30:08PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Has anyone seen a supported hardware list on CentOS 6? I've been looking 
> around for the last few days; even looked at RedHat's site but didn't 
> find one.
> 
> I've got a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card 
> in it and I'm trying to find out if it's going to have native driver 
> support for the WIFI.

I think most of the Dell Inspirons actually have a Broadcom 1390.
There's plenty of posts on it on Fedora forum, not sure how much will be
applicable to CentOS 6.


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