Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz



Rob Townley wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz 
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Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 


Craig White wrote:
   


On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
   


I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if
Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT
working with IPv6.

Anyone know for sure?

I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just
not working things.
   



more likely a DNS issue
 


Name is coded in /etc/hosts

Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard'
TLDs, but it should NOT be masking that, or would that be
a 'security' feature?
   



I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in
/etc/hosts...

you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if
there are
snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line

p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like:

2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3   p3490.htt

I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt'

But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work



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DNS can be real slow when IPv6 is enabled.  For instance the following 
firefox delta would speed up firefox on IPv4 connections.  Maybe you 
need to turn it on?


You may have already found this, but it helped when I had the same 
problem.


In firefox type in about:config,
filter for 'ipv6' you should have an entry for network.dns.disableIPv6
right click on it and 'toggle' it to a true value,
restart firefox and see if it helps.


Um, as the original poster, I WANT IPv6.  Not make IPv4 lookups faster 
by ignoring  records.


Further testing has IPv6 working just fine.  Thing is when I enable the 
HIP API intercepts, FIrefox does not work.  Like they are doing 
something 'non-standard' with the regualr TCP socket API so that HIP 
can't slide in there.  I tried disabling a number of options, thinking 
it might be some security setting, but if it is, I have not found it.



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-27 Thread Rob Townley
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:



 Rob Townley wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if
Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT
working with IPv6.

Anyone know for sure?

I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just
not working things.


more likely a DNS issue

Name is coded in /etc/hosts

Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard'
TLDs, but it should NOT be masking that, or would that be
a 'security' feature?


I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in
/etc/hosts...

you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if
there are
snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line

p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like:

2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3   p3490.htt

I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt'

But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work



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 DNS can be real slow when IPv6 is enabled.  For instance the following
 firefox delta would speed up firefox on IPv4 connections.  Maybe you need to
 turn it on?


  You may have already found this, but it helped when I had the same
 problem.

 In firefox type in about:config,
 filter for 'ipv6' you should have an entry for network.dns.disableIPv6
 right click on it and 'toggle' it to a true value,
 restart firefox and see if it helps.


 Um, as the original poster, I WANT IPv6.  Not make IPv4 lookups faster by
 ignoring  records.

 Further testing has IPv6 working just fine.  Thing is when I enable the HIP
 API intercepts, FIrefox does not work.  Like they are doing something
 'non-standard' with the regualr TCP socket API so that HIP can't slide in
 there.  I tried disabling a number of options, thinking it might be some
 security setting, but if it is, I have not found it.



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Yep, i fully understood you wanted IPv6.  i just thought you might want to
verify what settings you have for Firefox -- making sure Firefox has turned
on IPv6 dns.

Just curious, what is the motivation for the HIP api stuff, it is not there
by default is it?
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HIP - was Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz



Rob Townley wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Um, as the original poster, I WANT IPv6.  Not make IPv4 lookups
faster by ignoring  records.

Further testing has IPv6 working just fine.  Thing is when I
enable the HIP API intercepts, FIrefox does not work.  Like they
are doing something 'non-standard' with the regualr TCP socket API
so that HIP can't slide in there.  I tried disabling a number of
options, thinking it might be some security setting, but if it is,
I have not found it.


Yep, i fully understood you wanted IPv6.  i just thought you might 
want to verify what settings you have for Firefox -- making sure 
Firefox has turned on IPv6 dns.
Default was on. 
Just curious, what is the motivation for the HIP api stuff, it is not 
there by default is it? 

read the RFCs on HIP:  4423 and 5201-5206.

4423 provides the justification of HIP and its architecture.  I created 
HIP almost 10 years ago, shortly after (as IPsec co-chair) got the IPsec 
RFCs out.  HIP is much more than an alternative keying protocol for ESP 
(compared to IKE).  It directly addresses secure mobility.  HIP **IS** 
an important change to the TCP/IP architecture; this has been part of 
its slow advancement.  As such it has its own 'native' API:  
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hip-native-api-05.txt.


I can go into more about HIP if you wish.


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Re: HIP - was Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-27 Thread Rob Townley
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:



 Rob Townley wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Um, as the original poster, I WANT IPv6.  Not make IPv4 lookups
faster by ignoring  records.

Further testing has IPv6 working just fine.  Thing is when I
enable the HIP API intercepts, FIrefox does not work.  Like they
are doing something 'non-standard' with the regualr TCP socket API
so that HIP can't slide in there.  I tried disabling a number of
options, thinking it might be some security setting, but if it is,
I have not found it.


 Yep, i fully understood you wanted IPv6.  i just thought you might want to
 verify what settings you have for Firefox -- making sure Firefox has turned
 on IPv6 dns.

 Default was on.

 Just curious, what is the motivation for the HIP api stuff, it is not
 there by default is it?

 read the RFCs on HIP:  4423 and 5201-5206.

 4423 provides the justification of HIP and its architecture.  I created HIP
 almost 10 years ago, shortly after (as IPsec co-chair) got the IPsec RFCs
 out.  HIP is much more than an alternative keying protocol for ESP (compared
 to IKE).  It directly addresses secure mobility.  HIP **IS** an important
 change to the TCP/IP architecture; this has been part of its slow
 advancement.  As such it has its own 'native' API:
 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hip-native-api-05.txt.

 I can go into more about HIP if you wish.


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So HIP isn't in any distribution by default or is it?  How does one know?
Would it make sense to include HIP in a Wireless Access Point firmware or a
RADIUS type machine?   Looks interesting, will have to keep it in mind for
wlan sec.
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Re: HIP - was Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz



Rob Townley wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Rob Townley wrote:

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Um, as the original poster, I WANT IPv6.  Not make IPv4 lookups
   faster by ignoring  records.

   Further testing has IPv6 working just fine.  Thing is when I
   enable the HIP API intercepts, FIrefox does not work.  Like
they
   are doing something 'non-standard' with the regualr TCP
socket API
   so that HIP can't slide in there.  I tried disabling a
number of
   options, thinking it might be some security setting, but if
it is,
   I have not found it.


Yep, i fully understood you wanted IPv6.  i just thought you
might want to verify what settings you have for Firefox --
making sure Firefox has turned on IPv6 dns.

Default was on.

Just curious, what is the motivation for the HIP api stuff, it
is not there by default is it?

read the RFCs on HIP:  4423 and 5201-5206.

4423 provides the justification of HIP and its architecture.  I
created HIP almost 10 years ago, shortly after (as IPsec co-chair)
got the IPsec RFCs out.  HIP is much more than an alternative
keying protocol for ESP (compared to IKE).  It directly addresses
secure mobility.  HIP **IS** an important change to the TCP/IP
architecture; this has been part of its slow advancement.  As such
it has its own 'native' API:
 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hip-native-api-05.txt.

I can go into more about HIP if you wish.


So HIP isn't in any distribution by default or is it? 


No, but Ericsson just released there FreeBSD implementation:  
http://www.hip4inter.net/download/download.php


And Boeing has their Vista and I think NetBSD code base.

HIPL is available for FC8 and Ubuntu and I think Suse.  I saw it running 
on the Nokia N810 when I was in Helsinki earlier this month.



How does one know?


Our goal is to move HIP from Experimental to Standards track in the IETF 
at the November session.  From there it may well be that HIP could be in 
Centos 6.0.  But that is a long shot.


Would it make sense to include HIP in a Wireless Access Point firmware 
or a RADIUS type machine?


As a better security protocol to run RADIUS through between the AP and 
the Radius server?  YES!



Looks interesting, will have to keep it in mind for wlan sec.


Just remember that it is NOT a tunneling keying protocol.  It runs ESP 
in Transport mode, even if you are using BEET ESP mode.  You can run a 
tunneling protocol within it.  I am working on that


HIP is NOT a VPN alternative.  It is really host-to-host security.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-26 Thread Rob Townley
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Craig White wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


 Craig White wrote:


 On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


 I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that
 comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.

 Anyone know for sure?

 I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.


 
 more likely a DNS issue


 Name is coded in /etc/hosts

 Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it
 should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature?


 
 I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts...

 you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are
 snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line

 p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like:

 2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3   p3490.htt

 I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt'

 But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work



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DNS can be real slow when IPv6 is enabled.  For instance the following
firefox delta would speed up firefox on IPv4 connections.  Maybe you need to
turn it on?

Mr Scsi to Omaha
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You may have already found this, but it helped when I had the same problem.

In firefox type in about:config,
filter for 'ipv6' you should have an entry for network.dns.disableIPv6
right click on it and 'toggle' it to a true value,
restart firefox and see if it helps.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that 
comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.


my home network is 100% ipv6 and firefox works fine :D
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that 
 comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.
 
 Anyone know for sure?
 
 I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.

more likely a DNS issue

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  
I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that 
comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.


Anyone know for sure?

I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.



more likely a DNS issue

Name is coded in /etc/hosts

Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it 
should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature?



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

  I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that 
  comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.
 
  Anyone know for sure?
 
  I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.
  
  
  more likely a DNS issue
 Name is coded in /etc/hosts
 
 Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it 
 should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature?

I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts...

you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are
snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  

Craig White wrote:


On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  
  
I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that 
comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.


Anyone know for sure?

I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.




more likely a DNS issue
  

Name is coded in /etc/hosts

Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it 
should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature?



I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts...

you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are
snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line

p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like:

2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3   p3490.htt

I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt'

But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 00:15 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

  Craig White wrote:
  
  On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


  I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that 
  comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.
 
  Anyone know for sure?
 
  I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.
  
  
  
  more likely a DNS issue

  Name is coded in /etc/hosts
 
  Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it 
  should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature?
  
  
  I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts...
 
  you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are
  snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line
 p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like:
 
 2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3   p3490.htt
 
 I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt'
 
 But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work

perhaps apache doesn't know how to handle that name (presuming that you
have a colon to make it a valid URL).

does netstat show that apache is listening on ipv6 address?

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6

2008-08-11 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 00:15 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

  Craig White wrote:
  
  On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


  I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that 
  comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6.
 
  Anyone know for sure?
 
  I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things.
  
  
  
  more likely a DNS issue

  Name is coded in /etc/hosts
 
  Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it 
  should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature?
  
  
  I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts...
 
  you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are
  snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line
 p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like:
 
 2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3   p3490.htt
 
 I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt'
 
 But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work

do you have a line in /etc/hosts like...
::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6

and if so, can you connect to http://localhost6

Craig

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