Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-20 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 14:31 +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> William L. Maltby wrote on Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:33:23 -0400:
> 
> > Hmm. I wonder then if that is a bug in CentOS. Since the "default" shown
> > from the earlier posts indicates that several other pieces, including
> > the server daemon, should come along with the "mandatory" piece, mysql.
> 
> But mysql-server is not part of default setup, Bill, and shouldn't be.

AHA! As stated, I don't use it. The OP claimed a standard install from
CD. Based on that and the yum groupinfo output, it *appeared* that if
mysql was installed (the mandatory piece if installing mysql), several
other pieces would be installed by default.

Not knowing exactly what the situation was, that caused me to ask the
question about a potential bug.

In all honesty, I only got involved with the thread because it appeared
that the available tools for the OP to use had not been used (see my
post about docs available and the output of yum groupinfo) and it being
a weekend there was smaller chance of a knowledgeable reply. I figured
that if I could show such tools to begin a resolution path, regardless
of my level of ignorance, that it might give the OP some clues and the
impetus to use such tools himself.

Thanks to you and Ralph for taking the time increasing my level of
knowledge!

> 
> 
> Kai
> 

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-20 Thread David G. Miller

Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


William L. Maltby wrote:

> Hmm. I wonder then if that is a bug in CentOS. Since the "default" shown
> from the earlier posts indicates that several other pieces, including
> the server daemon, should come along with the "mandatory" piece, mysql.



No, why? Probably some package in default needs the client libraries of
MySQL, so those are installed.

Ralph
I think there was a change in upstream as of about version 4 to *not* 
install any actual database by default.  Only the client gets 
installed.  The argument was that their support folks were spending an 
inordinate amount of time helping people get their databases configured 
and running. 


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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-20 Thread Kai Schaetzl
William L. Maltby wrote on Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:33:23 -0400:

> Hmm. I wonder then if that is a bug in CentOS. Since the "default" shown
> from the earlier posts indicates that several other pieces, including
> the server daemon, should come along with the "mandatory" piece, mysql.

But mysql-server is not part of default setup, Bill, and shouldn't be.


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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
William L. Maltby wrote:
> Hmm. I wonder then if that is a bug in CentOS. Since the "default" shown
> from the earlier posts indicates that several other pieces, including
> the server daemon, should come along with the "mandatory" piece, mysql.

No, why? Probably some package in default needs the client libraries of
MySQL, so those are installed.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-20 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 08:14 +0100, Obantec Support wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William L. Maltby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

> >
> > That makes me think OP did a yum install mysql instead of a yum group
> > install. Per the output in my previous post, default packages for the
> > *group* include mysql-server. If my assumption is correct, he'll
> > probably hit more stumbling blocks, depending on what he's doing
> > ultimately, as other parts of a default install will likely be missing
> > too. Might be better to unstall (that *ought* to be a valid word, huh?
> > Would save typing.  :-) and do a group install to get a good starting
> > point.
> >
> >>
> >> Dunc
> >> 
> >

> Hi
> 
> as i originally posted i did not install Mysql, i just did a default boot 
> install of the CentOS DVD iso.
> seems 1 package of MySql was installed mysql-5.0.45-7.el5.

Hmm. I wonder then if that is a bug in CentOS. Since the "default" shown
from the earlier posts indicates that several other pieces, including
the server daemon, should come along with the "mandatory" piece, mysql.

> 
> i followed the advice to yum mysql-server and now its up and running.
> (yum got 1 dependence Perl-DBD)

Great.

> 
> thanks to all who replied.
> 
> Mark 
> 

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-20 Thread Obantec Support


- Original Message - 
From: "William L. Maltby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql




On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 19:38 +0100, Duncan wrote:

Obantec Support wrote:
>
>
> rpm -qa | grep mysql
> mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
> is installed
>
Yum install mysql-server


That makes me think OP did a yum install mysql instead of a yum group
install. Per the output in my previous post, default packages for the
*group* include mysql-server. If my assumption is correct, he'll
probably hit more stumbling blocks, depending on what he's doing
ultimately, as other parts of a default install will likely be missing
too. Might be better to unstall (that *ought* to be a valid word, huh?
Would save typing.  :-) and do a group install to get a good starting
point.



Dunc



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Hi

as i originally posted i did not install Mysql, i just did a default boot 
install of the CentOS DVD iso.

seems 1 package of MySql was installed mysql-5.0.45-7.el5.

i followed the advice to yum mysql-server and now its up and running.
(yum got 1 dependence Perl-DBD)

thanks to all who replied.

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Obantec Support wrote on Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:01:59 +0100:

> the DVD has devel and server rpm's which i think as a minimum need to be 
> installed.

of course, you need at least the server package if you want to sue the 
mysql server ...
And the correct command to start is "service servicename start" then.

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread Spike Turner
Duncan  wrote:

> Yum install mysql-server
> 

There are many tutorials on teh web for getting LAMP on CentOS
5 specifically and this is a cut and paste from one of them :-

Install Required Packages :-

Enter yum install mysql mysql-devel mysql-server to download and 
install MySQL then Enter chkconfig --levels 235 mysqld on to set 
MySQL to start when your server boots 

As easy as ABC, I don't know where he is getting information for 
FC3 when the info on CentOS 5 is sufficient.

Spike.

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 20:25 +0100, Duncan wrote:
> William L. Maltby wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 19:38 +0100, Duncan wrote:
> >   
> >> Obantec Support wrote:
> >> 
> >>> rpm -qa | grep mysql
> >>> mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
> >>> is installed
> >>>
> >>>   
> >> Yum install mysql-server
> >> 
> >
> > That makes me think OP did a yum install mysql instead of a yum group
> > install. Per the output in my previous post, default packages for the
> > *group* include mysql-server. If my assumption is correct, he'll
> > probably hit more stumbling blocks, depending on what he's doing
> > ultimately, as other parts of a default install will likely be missing
> > too. Might be better to unstall (that *ought* to be a valid word, huh?
> > Would save typing.  :-) and do a group install to get a good starting
> > point.
> >   
> You might making it a lot more complicated than need be.

I'm hostage to my background!  :-(

> 
> For most uses, just the mysql-server package (and any dependencies yum 
> brings in) will be fine.

Since OP knows more about what he's going to be doing, maybe "yum info"
will save him some future aggravation. OTOH, no use making it too
complicated. He can just try and see what happens.

> 
> (waits to be shot down by a very specific or complicated use from the OP 
> that requires the group install..)

He-he! But yours would be only a "flesh wound". His might be more
severe.  ;-)

> 
> Dunc
> 

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread Duncan

William L. Maltby wrote:

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 19:38 +0100, Duncan wrote:
  

Obantec Support wrote:


rpm -qa | grep mysql
mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
is installed

  

Yum install mysql-server



That makes me think OP did a yum install mysql instead of a yum group
install. Per the output in my previous post, default packages for the
*group* include mysql-server. If my assumption is correct, he'll
probably hit more stumbling blocks, depending on what he's doing
ultimately, as other parts of a default install will likely be missing
too. Might be better to unstall (that *ought* to be a valid word, huh?
Would save typing.  :-) and do a group install to get a good starting
point.
  

You might making it a lot more complicated than need be.

For most uses, just the mysql-server package (and any dependencies yum 
brings in) will be fine.


(waits to be shot down by a very specific or complicated use from the OP 
that requires the group install..)


Dunc


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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 19:38 +0100, Duncan wrote:
> Obantec Support wrote:
> >
> >
> > rpm -qa | grep mysql
> > mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
> > is installed
> >
> Yum install mysql-server

That makes me think OP did a yum install mysql instead of a yum group
install. Per the output in my previous post, default packages for the
*group* include mysql-server. If my assumption is correct, he'll
probably hit more stumbling blocks, depending on what he's doing
ultimately, as other parts of a default install will likely be missing
too. Might be better to unstall (that *ought* to be a valid word, huh?
Would save typing.  :-) and do a group install to get a good starting
point.

> 
> Dunc
> 

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread Duncan

Obantec Support wrote:



rpm -qa | grep mysql
mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
is installed


Yum install mysql-server

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 18:01 +0100, Obantec Support wrote:
> 

> Hi
> 
> i tried /etc/init.d/rc.d/mysqld start
> mysqld does not exist on the server.

I suspect there are some docs on your system that describe what's
needed. I don't use it for anything not part of the normal system
install, so I can't be sure of that.

> 
> no /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
> no /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
> no /var/log/mysqld.log
> 
> this is a clean install from CentOS DVD iso.
> 
> i tried the mysqld script from my FC3 install and got the following

Since EL5 is based on FC6 (IIRC), not surprising.

> 
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 11:
> : command not found
> 

> chown: `mysql:mysql': invalid user
> Initializing MySQL database:  /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: line 498: 
> /usr/bin/mysql_install_db: No such file or directory
> [FAILED]
> chown: `mysql:mysql': invalid user
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 108:
> : command not found
> 
> I get the feeling i need use yum to get some more mysql packages. big clue 
> is previously user:group mysql:mysql are set-up by an rpm.

Again, I don't use it. But I suspect that any mysql component
installation (or the even base install as a default installation) could
set up user and group entries. But my 5.2 doesn't have it, so probably
not one of those two situations.

> 
> rpm -qa | grep mysql
> mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
> is installed
> 
> the DVD has devel and server rpm's which i think as a minimum need to be 
> installed.
> 
> Mark 
> 

I don't use it myself, but maybe there's a clue below? The difference is
I don't have the c5-media enabled. If you have yours available, you
would leave it enabled.

# yum --enablerepo=\* --disablerepo=c5-media groupinfo 'MySQL Database'

Setting up Group Process
Checking for new repos for mirrors

Group: MySQL Database
 Description: This package group contains packages useful for use with
MySQL.
 Mandatory Packages:
   mysql
 Default Packages:
   MySQL-python
   libdbi-dbd-mysql
   mysql-connector-odbc
   mysql-server
   perl-DBD-MySQL
   unixODBC
 Optional Packages:
   mod_auth_mysql
   mysql-bench
   mysql-devel
   php-mysql
   qt-MySQL

Maybe one of those is what you need? Check the installed, use yum info
to find out which, etc.

In the future, please initially post a more appropriate amount of
information describing the problem, such as *symptoms* ("won't start" as
the only symptom is going to be ignored by a lot of folks that might be
able to help), pertinent components installed, what you've already
investigated and those results, etc.

And please snip portions of thread not need to maintain context, such as
useless signature lines, tangential conversation, etc.

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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread Obantec Support


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From: "William Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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what errors ar you getting?  Have you checked the logs?

Obantec Support wrote:

Hi
New to CentOS 5.2 today.
I cannot get MySQL 5.0.45 (default install) to start. X Fedora user.

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Hi

i tried /etc/init.d/rc.d/mysqld start
mysqld does not exist on the server.

no /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
no /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
no /var/log/mysqld.log

this is a clean install from CentOS DVD iso.

i tried the mysqld script from my FC3 install and got the following

/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 11:
: command not found
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 14:
: command not found
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 17:
: command not found
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 20:
: command not found
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 22:
: command not found
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 63:
: command not found
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 82:
: command not found
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 86:
: command not found
chown: `mysql:mysql': invalid user
Initializing MySQL database:  /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: line 498: 
/usr/bin/mysql_install_db: No such file or directory

[FAILED]
chown: `mysql:mysql': invalid user
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mysqld: line 108:
: command not found

I get the feeling i need use yum to get some more mysql packages. big clue 
is previously user:group mysql:mysql are set-up by an rpm.


rpm -qa | grep mysql
mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
is installed

the DVD has devel and server rpm's which i think as a minimum need to be 
installed.


Mark 


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Re: [CentOS] cannot start Mysql

2008-10-19 Thread William Warren

what errors ar you getting?  Have you checked the logs?

Obantec Support wrote:

Hi
New to CentOS 5.2 today.
I cannot get MySQL 5.0.45 (default install) to start. X Fedora user.

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